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OnosakiHito

Someone really dosen't like me.
But this person didn't know that everything is save now. lol
whymeman
I heard someone came into the server a few days ago to troll. But failed and got killed :~u

Also, i've been getting some INTENSE lag from Multiplayer. Not sure if its the build or Mojang's DB is crapping out again as usual.
winber1

whymeman wrote:

I heard someone came into the server a few days ago to troll. But failed and got killed :~u

Also, i've been getting some INTENSE lag from Multiplayer. Not sure if its the build or Mojang's DB is crapping out again as usual.
Yea, i'm getting it too.

On another note. I need to stop taking like 3 week breaks from this server or else I keep getting kicked out of the faction >_>
Some reason I can only play minecraft in short bursts of time otherwise I get bored. It's not really helping my cause though..lol
OnosakiHito
I really think we should make the server more interesting. Adding mods isn't that hard at all.
And right now there are just PLENTY of players in. It's just for fun, but having some more people and features wouldn't hurt at all... as winber said, after some hours it becomes boring, especially because everyone is spreaded around. meh

My house got destroyed, okay, but this was an live up for me, which leaded to a mending of my island!
I would have some ideas how live up things, but the question is if there would be made any changes anyway?
Since we are few people, we could at least shape it for out taste. Maybe people like it as well after that change.

whymeman, what do you think about this?
whymeman
Hmm... It would be nice actually. Most people that appear on only thinks osu!craft is only about mining and building stuff (and being a jerk griefing for no reason). Having some stuff to keep it interesting would be cool. The only question is what.

Though i've been thinking on the custom map option for some time, but not sure if it would be accepted or not. I'll have to use a new map for it since the project started around 1.4's
DarkStoorM
So, the Mineshafter got updated, so I tried to get in, to check if my "base" still exists.
Of course I'm still getting "Failed to verify username" error. Maybe it still needs an update, dunno.

Damn it :V
Kert
Taken from mineshaftersquared homepage:
Lilia
I think you should update the server for allowing cracked versions (installing a plugin for password though) because I was told on a tutorial for Minshafter Square that all servers were shut down, meaning that we can't get to the server anymore

if you read this, pls find a solution, since I found #minecraft I want to go in the server so much ;-;

The Mykonian
Lizzehb
Still can't get on the server. I entered my name into the thing.....forever ago. Can someone actually respond please?
Lilia
mineshafter's servers are down apparently

found 2 players speaking french and insulting everyone in the server, here they are
raphael59360, Mattdu50
with raphael laughing at my username...
whymeman
If there's any serious trouble going on in the server, just send me a forum PM.
13Kenzy
Thanks to the no "passthrough" thing, I have been inactive on the server for over 2 MONTHS!!!! I certainly hope my permanent faction is still there guarding my home and the Diamonds in it...
OnosakiHito
I have to thank the one who is attacking me permanently.
#1 Attack was really beneficial for me, since I rebuild my whole house and now it looks much better.
http://puu.sh/3DG2J.jpg -> http://puu.sh/4i8Gs.jpg
#2 Attack made me more careful in some aspects.
#3 Attack gave me now my own monster farm:

So yeah, thumbs up stupid.
whymeman
So, I just got home, found two emails of wide spread damages [and here too] happening from a griefer. Wasn't too happy about it and explored around a bit. Had to do some repairs to the road due to the man-made damages caused and saw [sadly] that MikuMiku got wrecked even though the faction still exists. After taking a look around, it came to me that someone obviously used fly hacks along with other cheats to cause such destruction in a short time. I'll have the matter checked out, but if you're missing any stuff, please let me know.
OnosakiHito
Oh, uh. That's pretty bad. Well, I'm still the opinion that we need some more features here.
Not only on player site but also on admin.
whymeman
Event logs would help a lot in times like this, but since I don't own the server itself, I can't access them personally. So, having some mods would help indeed but just hope they don't conflict or lag the server and its plugins.
OnosakiHito
So, I heard there will be a server update soon.

How about using this update for adding new mods and features?
We could talk about what we could add to the server after it gets updated.

E.g. I would like to have the dynamic map back. This was a great feature and I do miss it a lot.
Also, having additional mods like Mo’ Creatures or PIXELMON would be also cool.

It is every time the same, so having some new stuff would be cool.
Any other opinions or ideas?
Jinxy
Dynamic Map + Factions (specifically the TNT damaging protected land) is just asking for trouble
OnosakiHito
Well, then PVP should be disabled.

Nearly no one wants to fight, everyone builds 10.000 blocks away from the spawn since they are afraid. And those who got attacked are stressed and even report users.
Due to this I doubt that we even need PvP. Just my opinion about current situation.
whymeman
Well, I doubt the server can be PvP Free for one. Having Dynamap usually drawn in trouble due to griefers who use it to strike. Best to get rei's mini map when available and load it into your current version of minecraft in a custom profile.

As for the extra stuff, that would be interesting, but I just hope it doesn't conflict with other plugins and such. Also, that's up to Eph on that one if it can be added or not.
Jinxy
I don't go into the server, do people actively attack others now?

But anyway, I'm not talking about people using dynmap to attack others, but attacking claimed land and factions themselves, which can be done with TNT.

Another idea is toggleable PvP, where those who enable it can fight others, and those who don't care for it can just set theirs to off. I actually do like a little PvP to spice up playing with others. Pretty sure there should be a plugin like that, I played in such a server years ago.

Also, as long as factions/towns/plots or whatever are made invulnerable and applied from the map's start (unlike previous where Valhalla got unprotected when towny>griefprev), I don't see the harm of dynmap. Sure, griefers could still destroy unprotected land but they still totally can now.

EDIT: Thinking about it, I have some thoughts about how this server is right now, and some suggestions for its future. It's just my opinion, so you don't have to agree or disagree. You can even disregard it, since honestly, I don't go in the server much.

My 2c and suggestions
As a guy who watches letsplayers pretty often, I've thought that MC servers could be generalised into a few types: Enforced-Order, Trust-Order, and Anarchy. Enforced-Order would kinda be like hardcore grief-prevention plugins like foolproof area protection, LogBlock, etc to ensure that people's things are protected. Trust-Order is basically a vanilla server, but a tightly-knit community (whitelisted, etc) ensures that everyone is friendly with each other and nobody actively griefs someone else. Anarchy is... well, anarchy. Do whatever the fuck you want to.

Most players here would prefer the Order side of things, as far as I can tell. Obviously, osu is nowhere near small enough to be a true tight-knit community, which means players want some sort of plugin, etc to help protection. I've never really understood the choice of Factions as an area-protecting plugin, when it's obviously not meant to be so. Claims can be taken over via death or removed due to inactivity, or completely skipped if someone has a large-enough supply of TNT. This is supposed to promote user interaction and some anarchy iirc, but the problem is no one wants to interact like that. So as a result, Factions is being exploited by griefers instead.

1.7's coming up, and the massive biome changes will probably necessitate a new map when it's released. My suggestion is that an alternative claiming plugin is used, similar to Towny or GriefPrev or something, idk. The plugin's claims would not be able to be taken over nor destroyed. For decay, it might be better to just leave inactive claims alone unless it's an area close to spawn and someone else would like to build there.

As for PvP, like I said, some people might like having it since it gives another thing for them to do. I myself like some PvP, since it can be deeper than just spamming, with the right equipment. A nice compromise would simply be a personal PvP toggle and also some method to see who else has their PvP toggled. Small rewards could be given to winners, like maybe the player head or something to hang up in homes. If Dynmap was enabled, people should be able to hide themselves from the map too, if they don't want to be disturbed or are trying for an ambush. It also makes PvP more interesting if both the attacker and defender are hiding.

For griefing of unprotected land, there's no way to actually prevent that, unless some chunk-restore plugin is used or something, which doesn't revert ores, for obvious reasons.


Of course, there's a completely different idea. I remember Eph talking about an idea of a limited map, and limited factions. Important resources will decrease over time, and players can either resort to using renewable resources, or use an economy possibly based on fighting and exploring outside of the faction. Factions can fight to expand, but each faction will always have an unconquerable "capital" as a safezone for those who aren't interested in fighting. Limited factions and safezones would definitely increase interaction between players, if that's the target of the server.
Flanster
Can anyone give me a hand with this new update?
Since I was running on Mineshafter Squared things now are a bit different than before..

I should've left money in my credit card so I can buy the original.
Kert
server needs to be updated with new mineshaftersquared launcher too
whymeman
Them projectz....



I'll add more details later. Finished 1 cluster of Skyland so far. Came out pretty good for something out of a concept. Still working on the tombs, cities, ships, and other crazy things on the list.

xRayne
That will be amazing to explore o:
OnosakiHito
Wait, that's what you made? Or is it a mod? lol
whymeman
Not a mod. I crafted that myself and did a test run on survival. Pretty damm dangerous to tell you the truth ._.

Finished another island. Accidentally spawned a village on it though.....



And the view from below.... (Yes, its THAT huge)



Edit: 9/17/13

Attempting to alter the spawner creation for a more interesting experience. Of course, doing plenty of testing first before playing with that.



Edit: 9/18/13

Also creating some "real" rare items which is in WIP, but nice to try on for the bonuses. And yes, I do test them to make sure the value IDs and such don't break anything.

13Kenzy
Erm, I have come back from a super-long inactivity thanks to a friend who sent me a gift code.
Yes, it has been seen before my eyes that my home was wrecked, after close analysis of damage patterns it looked like they used TNT or something. But that's not what I am literally pissed at.
What I am literally pissed at, I cannot tell you.

-13Kenzy (now MC name is "kenster1092")
whymeman
Honestly speaking, I did see the damage before and investigated it. As far as I can tell, some cheat mods were used in a raid. Especially with how it was targeted. Of course, anyone using such things get banned eventually.
whymeman
A VERY important note to anyone playing Minecraft. Especially for server owners....

13Kenzy
Finally, I started to think that 1.6.4 was another time-wasting update because for 2 days, the 1.6.4 update details did not show up...
whymeman
Well, I doubt its time wasting if the last update manage to screw up chunk loading (which is a bad thing).

Edit: I know its been some time since the last picture posted, but I got tied up with some work that had to be addressed so I couldn't get as much done as I wanted. But to show you what's going on right now, i'm working on setting the biomes correctly instead of one huge jungle biome. Including snow on the mountain tops.

13Kenzy
1.6.4.... To load up important parts of the singleplayer world: Done. Anyways, I'm off to some PvP servers until the server gets upgraded to 1.7, heh, I await that.... I will downgrade to 1.6.2 every now and then to check up on things...
whymeman
10/1/13

Well, i've been scrambling in my head on how to make the shops without the use of the econ plugin and I figured it out. Though its not easy, it's possible and can be edited. Of course, the currency will be typically from common (like gold bars, gold nuggets, books) to the more rare "expensive" items (like diamonds, emeralds, and even nether stars)

Jinxy
Have you watched Sethbling's videos? He touches a lot on MCEdit and I think he has a custom filter for making villager shops too.
whymeman

Jinxy wrote:

Have you watched Sethbling's videos? He touches a lot on MCEdit and I think he has a custom filter for making villager shops too.
That's what i've been using :V

Its just the matter of setting it up right. Especially for treasures with attributes.
BeatMaster007
ah, finally, shops.

Speaking of the 1.7 update... will there be a chance for our items to be carried over somehow, or will it all be a fresh restart from scratch?
that, and if the factions system will still be in use, etc.

On a side note, i have been wondering if you will allow/implement use of the Minecraft Enchantment Decoder mod (it requires a server side plugin installed to work)
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/753 ... zens-mods/ >scroll to EnchantView
whymeman
Not sure about items being saved for the next update honestly. I think it's more possible through enderchests since I feel they are "profile-based" and doesn't have separate storage points like regular chests do.

As for the extra plugins, its up to Eph on that if it seems logical or not to add.

Edit: Making a food shop as well


whymeman
After sitting down with some thoughts, I feel it would be cooler having some help to generate more custom structures to use when the new update appears. If you want to have your creations used, just message me and i'll combine it or have them placed thoroughly. We can also review the layouts and collab build.
OnosakiHito
I would support it. Sounds great.
whymeman
I could even give created sample maps for any volunteers to work on. Like right now i'm generating the Castle + Village setup.



10/22/13 Edit

Working on internals for castle. Just a preview of the somewhat finished throne room.

whymeman
It's been some time since I last posted.....

Anyways, we'll be getting ready to update the server to the new 1.7 build(s) soon. Atm, i'm just finishing up the custom chunks before adding them to the world map.

This is a general idea of how the new world will be made up.
OnosakiHito
Good to hear. I will also finish my home soon, I guess.
theleoleole
Hi!
I dont know osu! have such a minecraft community :D


Looks like im gonna join this as soon as possible ;D
And i already link my MC account with osu! :D

Hope i can get along with you guys :)
Jsdfbn
Man I'd love to join the osu! MC community but I don't really like some of the things the server has :v I might try it out though. We shall see =)
PROGUY
I'm really looking forward to the update, wmm :D

By the way, can I build near your base next? It would be way more convenient than Nether travelling O_O
whymeman
Sure, if you can find it :V
xRayne
*3*
Cannot wait for the server to be open again
aaaah updates!
~
AMPLIFIED
CookieAM
C'mon, when's the server gonna be up?
whymeman
There's going to be a slight delay. My graphics card decided to nade itself on me and now i'm stuck on a stock on-board video as a temp. Was getting horrible lag before then till it finally gave out. Sorry for the delay but just need a few more days. :o

*rage* (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Edit: Going back to work on the project now. Got a new monitor, wi-fi adapter, and video card.
BeatMaster007
Will be waiting warmly for the server.
here's hoping enderchest contents wont get nuked
whymeman
We'll see what happens from that. Also, currently doing the chunk loading process. Just have to take the time to make sure I don't screw up the chunk loading rushing it.
Topic Starter
Ephemeral
i was actually thinking of incorporating whymeman's world with a bundled twilight forest + thaumcraft modpack, since those two both work together very well, provide some interesting mechanics and lots of cooperative play opportunities

how do people feel about this?
whymeman
Sounds nice actually. Though before I actually start plotting the chunks together on the map, I want to make sure if anyone else really wants the world Normal (w/ Large Biomes) or AMPLIFIED. The sooner I get the votes, the faster I can figure out the best choice considering those who would actually suffer graphics lag loading 100000+ blocks a chunk.
PROGUY
While I have to agree that it does sound good, I think it's best if the server remains mod-free. I don't like corrupting my MC files just to enjoy mods (unless it has a standalone ver). If you guys are really gonna include such mods in, be sure to make your instructions clear in the op so everyone can join with ease.
xRayne
I think the thaumcraft mod to the server would be an interesting turn from vanilla~
whymeman
Hmm.... though if the addon mod is standalone without needing others to get the mod itself, that would also be nice. Then again, you can also save customized versions of the Minecraft version folder if you do it right as seen on youtube vids with installing mods since 1.6
Blue Stig
whymeman
Sorry it's taking longer than expected guys. My desktop was dying bad and had to build a new one. But, it's up and running and i'm back to work with the chunk plotting and constructing.

Axle-x
Hey WMM, you sent met that world, "build world 4" because I wanted to test the speed potions.
Remember that stone cloud that is made of wool? Its a gigantic lag machine: light one fire and the whole thing goes up, along with your computer
I really think it would be better to change it to glass.
also I'm new to posting on this so this message may end up in the wrong spot.
whymeman
SPOILER
Hmm..... I guess i'll look into it then
Removed the wool clouds after testing it with fire :o

I'll just change the biome to something else and use a different idea. Also, the "Mini City" is just about done. Just adding automatic light poles atm...



Automatic lighting during night (without power in city)

11 - 27 - 2013 / 11 - 28 - 2013

Finishing up with the Skyland chunk. Had to rework some biomes due to the phail with MCEdit not pasting the biomes correctly. Also reworking the shops to correct some item prices in the Mini City.


Also working to patch up AMPLIFIED chunks into the map. Will take a bit of time to smoothen out.

vvvvvvvvvvvv

vvvvvvvvvvvv
whymeman
Alright, some good news is that the map should be done by this weekend. After that, it's just the matter of updating and setting up the server and such. Just finalizing the edit tests and chunk smoothing atm.



Alright, here's how i'm going to go about with the finalization.

* about 3 cities /w armor and weapon shops each containing different level of "boosted" equipment. A bank for "currency" exchange, a food store, and a ingredients shop (for potions).

* custom chunks of land/dungeons are added. at a massive distance of course.

*Currently finishing up the battle ship theme for ocean travelers

I'll list more later on.
PROGUY
It almost sounds as if you're changing the game mode of the server to Adventure instead of Survival, in which to be honest sounds pretty cool since I believe not many others have done this before.

Well I'd be okay either way (as in either Adventure or Survival). I'll be looking forward to the server :D
iHeartLolis
No rush :L Even though I have completely no idea whats going on. I wouldn't mind the server having mods but please leave amplified world type out.
whymeman

Smirkable wrote:

No rush :L Even though I have completely no idea whats going on. I wouldn't mind the server having mods but please leave amplified world type out.
Not going with Amplified. Just Large Biomes at most. I tried to do Amplified for a week and it was just nuts to handle though I wanted to keep a small experience from it so I took a chunk from that world and pasted it into the current one i'm working on. As for the progress, I just have to add one more city, some touch ups, then good to go.

12 - 9 -2013

Finished up on the towns. Just doing one last thing which is the battleship theme with live active ships firing and such.



Added on sudden request

Bookstore
Fishing Shop
whymeman
Seems like an expected update came just in time too. 1.7.2 was too friggin buggy on some of the servers I was on.

OnosakiHito
Is that the time where we should send our buildings...? lol
whymeman
Lol, well I already asked about that some weeks ago, but no one pitched in a copy of a world folder with their creations except for one person.

I'm just using what I got right now to finish up.
iHeartLolis
Heh... wish I was able to send some but I am terrible at building.
whymeman
Something always happens that kicks my ass (got slightly sick and really busy).... anyways, I got the battle ship done. All that is needed is to furnish and load the ammo. Then i'll see if I can load in maybe 14 ~ 17 into that one area for the map, then we'll be good to go

iHeartLolis
Thanks for working on the server WMM! I'm sure everyone appreciates it.
- m i r a i
Awr, I love Minecraft *-*
whymeman
The ships came out larger than I thought, but making it work somehow. This is just one of the areas i'm setting it up at.



[Update: 12/19]

+ Found and fixed a few issues on the chunks.

+ Added Fishing Shops in cities/towns

+ Added three different tiers of bookstores. Higher tiers have nicer enchantment books, but WILL be very expensive.

+ For the awesomeness, warships will be added in two isolated locations. War start at night time automatically.

+ Started a small blueprint on starter items on the server. Also working on making a decent spawn point.

More coming soon....
whymeman
Time for me to rap things up to get the server started. I've already got to work on the spawn and so far, I like the view for the cords picked.

Jinxy
So is the new world still Factions based? Does it have a set map size?
whymeman
A set map size, not sure but I doubt it. Factions i'd go with since it kept the server easy and clean better than Towny without breaking. Essentials would be nice to have with it as well.

Also did a bit of a derp moment on MCEdit with accidental cloning. Already cleaned that up though.


NaomiMinette
Needs more Rainbow Sheep.
Miles Edgeworth
Server is closed?
iHeartLolis
Nice, I can't wait for the server opening up again.
whymeman

(Why is that side glowing? I don't know....)

Well, the map is pretty much done now. Just waiting to turn it in and get it going....

(all-nighters suck when you have to press to finish)
DarkStoorM
Someone should make a music with note blocks that plays the osu! tutorial when you get close to the osu! logo in there. xD
whymeman
Once the server starts up, you should be able to start with what is set in the inventory (if not, then wtf). The rain did seem to troll me a lot on the final bits before completion though....



PROGUY
Does it also include stuff from the Ender chest, since they're player-specific?
DarkStoorM

whymeman wrote:

I don't know why, but the first one reminds me of a Chaser map from S4 League.
whymeman

PROGUY wrote:

Does it also include stuff from the Ender chest, since they're player-specific?
I believe the enderchest inventory would be cleared too. Usually this is a proper way to go when you own online servers to give a fair start.

Also, something to amuse you while you wait.

DJNightmare
Are you setting up a new server?
If so I would really want to help out with spawn building and stuff :D
whymeman
It seems I won't be on for a few days as my primary WD Black Drive crapped out. Already working on replacing it right now :o

Why do I always have the worst timing for these things......
DJNightmare

whymeman wrote:

It seems I won't be on for a few days as my primary WD Black Drive crapped out. Already working on replacing it right now :o

Why do I always have the worst timing for these things......
@_@, from what I saw, the server looks like it will be very awesome :X
I wish I had the opporturnity to help out and build, I really like building XD
NaomiMinette
Slime Blocks released in today's Snapshot.

I am gonna have so much fun making minigames and dramatic entrances/exits with them :D
whymeman
Sooooooooo, we're waiting for that update instead or something? I was hoping the server would be up by now without too much delay. :|
PROGUY
I don't think 1.8 would be coming anytime soon. Let's just go with 1.7 first. And even if the game does get updated to 1.8, there would be no need to reset the world since there are no changes to the terrain generation.
whymeman
Well, the other thing is that i'm trying to be around as much as I can to help with the launch. But if there's a plugin that needs to be waited on or something, then I could update the world map with a few more things. I'm even working on learning the use of command blocks for bigger projects ahead.


Jinxy
So you're building the map, but Eph is still the one that's controlling the server? He does know you built a map, right
whymeman

Jinxy wrote:

So you're building the map, but Eph is still the one that's controlling the server? He does know you built a map, right
Yeah. I already sent him the finished copy. But while there's more waiting, I could look into updating a few more things into the map before launch.
whymeman
Please check to this thread for more details on the server as this one is outdated now.
dkun
unpinning for the sake of the new one. check it out!
osufam
Hello.


So when I try to go to the server, it won't let me in. Please give a reply if you know how to fix this. Thanks! :)

http://puu.sh/9sfoR/4dea378d93.png

osufam,
CtB Master

=================================================================================================

Anybody want to join the Minecraft server? Here is the IP: mc.ppy.sh
=================================================================================================
To join the server:

1.) Launch Minecraft

2.) Go to Multiplayer

3.) Click Direct Connect

4.) Type in the IP address I gave you

Enjoy playing the osu! server!
Lorenzo

osufam wrote:

Hello.


So when I try to go to the server, it won't let me in. Please give a reply if you know how to fix this. Thanks! :)

http://puu.sh/9sfoR/4dea378d93.png

osufam,
CtB Master

=================================================================================================

Anybody want to join the Minecraft server? Here is the IP: mc.ppy.sh
=================================================================================================
To join the server:

1.) Launch Minecraft

2.) Go to Multiplayer

3.) Click Direct Connect

4.) Type in the IP address I gave you

Enjoy playing the osu! server!
This server is down.
Granger

osufam wrote:

osufam,
CtB Master
>CtB Master
>Rank #24.173

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-HHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry kid, you're pathetic.
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