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DakeDekaane
The "Silly scum" part was merely a joke, Royston would have my vote if I had a scumread on him.
Royston

Jinxy wrote:

Well, I thought Royston knowingly voted Quotes as a dumb joke, but if it turns out he did it because he didn't even read it probably, then Vote: Royston
uhm yeah, I did vote him as a dumb joke. I thought it was fairly obvious
Jinxy

Royston wrote:

Unless the mod's lying, yeah.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Quotes (Suga Kyoutarou) wins with town.

Royston wrote:

Oh, misred that. But Quotes is the only comfirmed town currently
So you're telling me you read that Quotes was town, then somehow misread the exact same line into "Rantai was town"?
Royston
yeah I confused Rantai with Quotes
OnosakiHito
Somehow Sakura likes to push things forward.
Maybe too pushy for the beginning hmmmmm? Some plan ahead?
Amianki
Nah, that's a Sakura-tell.
OnosakiHito
Is that so? How comes you defend her?
Amianki
A more relevant question would be why you're getting on Sakura's case for being pushy but not on mine.
OnosakiHito
Because I didn't understand your posts yet. lol
Rantai

Raging Bull wrote:

@ Rantai, are you really just RPing because of CalingoBot? That really doesn't sound like how you play even if someone usually gets you mad.
Breaking it temporarily to answer this: I am making a point this time, to show people just how terrible those types of suspicions are. They're almost universally a waste of time based on entirely subjective based opinion that is basically un-arguable. Maybe it makes them feel better because they have some sort of hidden list of meta they can throw out at people but it simply annoys me because it gets in the way of logical play. That and it's almost always wrong (outside the lucky guesses). This doesn't only apply to Caligno, it's a blanket statement to everyone who thinks their hidden reads are mega awesome and useful.

Also most of my previous games shouldn't apply here because I can purposely change my playstyle on the fly. Hence why I don't like meta in the first place.
Amianki
You failed the reaction test. That's where a significant amount of the suspicion is coming from.
Amianki
In case anyone was wondering, my reasoning before was the cause and not the result of the reaction test.
Rantai
Breaking again: So basically you're going to try and use a "reaction test" result on someone who was already at the edge for that type of play (ie baseless crap). You'd be a terrible researcher with that amount of bias. It's like me whacking a brick wall until breaking point, bringing someone over and shattering it with the final blow and saying "Brick walls are not structurally integral!"

She rolls her eyes as she watches each nonsensical discard be played.

"I wonder what they're trying to achieve," she ponders.
Rantai
Oh yeah for that reason, I always am doubtful about reaction tests (bias - and this is for both the inherent test and the intepretation). I'm constantly questioning Sakura's play because hers are almost as appalling.
Irreversible
I'll try to catch things up, my post will come in a few hours for sure, sorry for inactiity
Raging Bull
@Rantai well it's true you can change your gameplay on the fly, but so far I haven't even seen you ever do it at all. I just thought it's rather weird that you have to try it this time and out of nowhere all because of CalingoBot
Sakura
Damn Irre that avatar makes me think you're Andrea
Quotes_old
Rantai you are not "proving why these suspicions are silly," you are purposely being anti-town and incredibly annoying to read. You are functionally active lurking and I very much like where my vote is as a result.
Rantai
Um, you might want to read that again as to why they are silly, there's a line of explanation if you have the functionality to understand it (to sum it up: they basically take an action or post which usually indicates nothing and try to make a read off it). Let's go as far as this example of "RPing is a scumtell!" - anyone of any alignment can RP during an RVS and it's absolutely grabbing at straws if you think you can draw meaningful conclusions from it.

Let's make another example: I'm a terrorist and I like to dance - those kids over there like to dance too, therefore those kids are terrorists. Meaningful.

In the end though I'm assuming you actually agree with those types of plays so I think I'm wasting my breath here. I wonder if you actually believe I am scum or simply just don't like my opinion on the matter. I'll give you that the obtuse writing (RP stuff) is annoying as hell for both parties, but if you're basing a scum read off that, damn. If only every mafia were so obvious (bracing for the claws on that statement but I had to say it).

I think I've basically said all I've wanted on this topic.

@RB - There's a first time for everything. I'd call it less weird here as more I'm simply not holding back my opinion now (not sure if it got through but one of my rp posts basically said I've been bottling it up over several games). If that paints a giant target on my back then so be it.
Sakura
Not gonna bother to highlight the spoilers
Unvote
Vote: Rantai


You're making it more difficult for town to understand you, ergo you're not helping town.
Rantai
So you have basically nothing on me then?

A spoiler box barely changes anything. The words are there; dragging a mouse probably uses the energy of a grain of rice.
Rantai
Eh forgot to spoiler*

Probably going to drop the rp though - I can't keep that up.
Sakura
See, that's better
Unvote
Vote: Royston
Amianki
What did rantai say? I can't highlight on my phone.
Raging Bull

Rantai wrote:

Um, you might want to read that again as to why they are silly, there's a line of explanation if you have the functionality to understand it (to sum it up: they basically take an action or post which usually indicates nothing and try to make a read off it). Let's go as far as this example of "RPing is a scumtell!" - anyone of any alignment can RP during an RVS and it's absolutely grabbing at straws if you think you can draw meaningful conclusions from it.

Let's make another example: I'm a terrorist and I like to dance - those kids over there like to dance too, therefore those kids are terrorists. Meaningful.

In the end though I'm assuming you actually agree with those types of plays so I think I'm wasting my breath here. I wonder if you actually believe I am scum or simply just don't like my opinion on the matter. I'll give you that the obtuse writing (RP stuff) is annoying as hell for both parties, but if you're basing a scum read off that, damn. If only every mafia were so obvious (bracing for the claws on that statement but I had to say it).

I think I've basically said all I've wanted on this topic.

@RB - There's a first time for everything. I'd call it less weird here as more I'm simply not holding back my opinion now (not sure if it got through but one of my rp posts basically said I've been bottling it up over several games). If that paints a giant target on my back then so be it.
Raging Bull

Rantai wrote:

Um, you might want to read that again as to why they are silly, there's a line of explanation if you have the functionality to understand it (to sum it up: they basically take an action or post which usually indicates nothing and try to make a read off it). Let's go as far as this example of "RPing is a scumtell!" - anyone of any alignment can RP during an RVS and it's absolutely grabbing at straws if you think you can draw meaningful conclusions from it.

Let's make another example: I'm a terrorist and I like to dance - those kids over there like to dance too, therefore those kids are terrorists. Meaningful.

In the end though I'm assuming you actually agree with those types of plays so I think I'm wasting my breath here. I wonder if you actually believe I am scum or simply just don't like my opinion on the matter. I'll give you that the obtuse writing (RP stuff) is annoying as hell for both parties, but if you're basing a scum read off that, damn. If only every mafia were so obvious (bracing for the claws on that statement but I had to say it).

I think I've basically said all I've wanted on this topic.

@RB - There's a first time for everything. I'd call it less weird here as more I'm simply not holding back my opinion now (not sure if it got through but one of my rp posts basically said I've been bottling it up over several games). If that paints a giant target on my back then so be it.

forgot to unspoiler it.
Sakura
^
lol
Amianki
Rantai:

CalignoBot wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Apparently a little RP is a scumread.
This is a pretty solid hint as to why.
If this is where you got the RPing thing from, then know that I was talking less about the actual words and more about the intent behind it.
Rantai
Then you made that extremely ambiguous. What intent anyway?
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 1.5

Rantai (3) - DakeDekaane, Quotes, CalignoBot
Royston (3) - Sakura, Nyquill, Jinxy
OnosakiHito (1) - Raging Bull
Jinxy (1) - Irreversible
Quotes (1) - Royston
Irrreversible (1) - OnosakiHito

Not voting - Rantai, Royston

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 44:59.
NoHitter
Alright, let's try this. There are pretty much two main wagons as of now: Rantai's and Royston's.
I don't think Rantai's actions are indicative to scum. I feel his frustration is genuine, though a bit overdone. Null tell for Rantai.

Royston's actions, i.e. voting for Quotes was fine, but there's something about his excuse which bothers me. He said that he voted Quotes as a joke, implying he knew he was confirmed town, but said later that he was "misreading" it into Rantai - saying he thought Rantai was confirmed town. Which makes his earlier justification of voting Quotes a contradiction.

Vote: Royston

And for all of you still RVS voting, please stop already. We're out of RVS.
Amianki

Rantai wrote:

Then you made that extremely ambiguous. What intent anyway?
Yeah, thought I made that clear earlier but apparently I didn't.

The initial post about my vote on you not being random was true, but I was hoping you'd do something that was easy to read. Instead of trying to figure out what I was seeing, you immediately knee jerked and assumed my reason, then tried to discredit it. Then when further pressured, you didn't really do much of anything but try to discredit it further.
Royston
Huh? You realise I misred RB's post earlier and thought he asked why Quotes was confirmed town. I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about Rantai being town
NoHitter
Unvote
Nevermind. I thought you meant you misread the mod's confirmation, not RB's question.

Will reread in a bit.
Rantai
Which post did you try to clear it up?

Feels like to let it just run for whatever reason instead of clarifying (well, depends on where you tried to clear it up obviously).
Jinxy
Honestly, I think I'm going to ask for Replacement. I'm just not feeling the drive to actually play and finely comb though a mafia game right now. Rather pass this slot to someone else than be a liability to town.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
searching for replacement for Jinxy

Votecount 1.6

Rantai (3) - DakeDekaane, Quotes, CalignoBot
Royston (3) - Sakura, Nyquill, Jinxy
OnosakiHito (1) - Raging Bull
Jinxy (1) - Irreversible
Quotes (1) - Royston
Irrreversible (1) - OnosakiHito

Not voting - NoHItter, Rantai

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 35:54.
Quotes_old
Unvote
Vote: NoHitter


I like this more.
OnosakiHito
NoHitter is pretty calm for what is going on here.
Though, he has experience.
DakeDekaane
Unvote
Vote: CalignoBot


Quotes, why NH?
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