Sieg wrote:

Спасибо DnJeiser
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MasterKirin wrote:

Hi from my queue.

Sorry i didn't find something wrong in your map.

But i will do 2 things.
1)I will star your map because i love serj
2)I will ask you WHY THE GRID LEVEL IS 1? LOL

By the way good job

1. Just wondering a bit about the position of the Preview Time. I mean, you have more interesting parts in the song, so I'd use one of them instead of the intro. If I were you, I'd place it in 01:31:506 - instead.

1. 00:21:254 - Just remove this green line, is pretty useless since the music goes on a similar pitch, it doesn't make sense the 5% in this Slider end (the same goes to 00:21:854).
2. 00:24:254 (2) - There is no sound over the red tick, so unrankable. Use a single note instead to make the pattern rankable, silenced slider ends is not acceptable in the actual criteria.
3. 00:24:999 (T) - There is a sound over the blue tick, remove this green line entirely.
4. 00:42:293 (1) - Use a single note here instead, because there is no sound over the blue tick.
5. 00:42:704 (T) - Vocals is acting over the blue tick, so the usage of this green line with 5% is completely unnecesary. Remove it please
6. 00:46:814 - 00:47:088 (T-T) - Since vocals are acting here, remove these green lines because are useless. Keeping the volume do a good effect too.
7. 00:51:189 - 00:51:462 (T-T) - (^).
8. 00:55:417 (1) - Use a single note instead because there is no sound over the blue tick.. And remove the green line from 00:55:826 - because in there the vocals are acting and the Slider is justificated.
9. 00:58:144 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Esthetically a great pattern, but sorry.. You must change this one. No sound over the blue ticks, so unrankable, in addition the 5% is not used on a good way. Remember, the 5% should be used in special cases (for example the end of the map), but not to silence places where there is no music.
10. 01:08:237 (8,9) - Use single notes here too! Definetly there is no sound over blue ticks. I think you can do a good pattern with Notes too.
11. 01:26:779 (1,2) - (^)
12. 01:32:842 (1,2) - (^)
13. 01:33:510 (T) - The Slider (3) is justificated with the music, but remove this green line pls. And this continue in the whole of the map, just listen the music by yourself and decide where is necessary to delete the green lines and where is necessary to use single notes instead of the Slider. You Must change these points if you want to get your map ranked, as I said you before 5% is unrankable, it is justificated only in special cases (at the end of a map for example).

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

LOL! I was seeing this map yesterday to mod it and now is bubble! . I'll give it a try then!
Heeelo

[General:]

1. Just wondering a bit about the position of the Preview Time. I mean, you have more interesting parts in the song, so I'd use one of them instead of the intro. If I were you, I'd place it in 01:31:506 - instead.

Just personal preference.

[Advanced:]

- The main problem that I had in this difficulty were the silenced Slider ends (especially when you used kick Sliders (1/4 Sliders)). This is technically unrankable, if there is no sound over the tick just don't add anything, and if it sounds lower than the other parts, just reduce the volume a bit but don't silence the Slider end entierly. I'll focus on that in my mod.
Alright, I guess we discussed this in irc already.
also custom soft-hitnormal changed to standard (have higher volume than it was) it was used only on 5% slider ends.

1. 00:21:254 - Just remove this green line, is pretty useless since the music goes on a similar pitch, it doesn't make sense the 5% in this Slider end (the same goes to 00:21:854).
   volume raised up to 20% on both sliderends, so it audible now, still quiet but can be heard
   
2. 00:24:254 (2) - There is no sound over the red tick, so unrankable. Use a single note instead to make the pattern rankable, silenced slider ends is not acceptable in the actual criteria.
   actually there is no drum on red tick but there is guitar and lyrics start "you" which is quite strong that makes this 00:24:254 able to put a slider start here, as for slider end (blue tick), I raised volume to 20% to make this audible, and call it naturally playable end of "you" lyrics or overmap which makes sense because we have another stress beat on 00:24:554 (3) - and slider (hold feeling) not circle placed to correspond "you"
   
3. 00:24:999 (T) - There is a sound over the blue tick, remove this green line entirely.
   raised to 20%
   
4. 00:42:293 (1) - Use a single note here instead, because there is no sound over the blue tick.
   as I described above (same as for "you") this used to make hold feeling on lyrics, somebody don't like this somebody loves this, volume on ends raised to 20%
   
5. 00:42:704 (T) - Vocals is acting over the blue tick, so the usage of this green line with 5% is completely unnecesary. Remove it please
   raised to 20%
   
6. 00:46:814 - 00:47:088 (T-T) - Since vocals are acting here, remove these green lines because are useless. Keeping the volume do a good effect too.
   raised to 20%
   
7. 00:51:189 - 00:51:462 (T-T) - (^).
   raised to 20%
   
8. 00:55:417 (1) - Use a single note instead because there is no sound over the blue tick.. And remove the green line from 00:55:826 - because in there the vocals are acting and the Slider is justificated.
   raised to 20%
   
9. 00:58:144 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Esthetically a great pattern, but sorry.. You must change this one. No sound over the blue ticks, so unrankable, in addition the 5% is not used on a good way. Remember, the 5% should be used in special cases (for example the end of the map), but not to silence places where there is no music.
   all ends raised to 20% all I can do here, all this slider still correspond hold fast lyrics to me, that how I hear that how I map :\
   
10. 01:08:237 (8,9) - Use single notes here too! Definetly there is no sound over blue ticks. I think you can do a good pattern with Notes too.
11. 01:26:779 (1,2) - (^)
12. 01:32:842 (1,2) - (^)
13. 01:33:510 (T) - The Slider (3) is justificated with the music, but remove this green line pls. And this continue in the whole of the map, just listen the music by yourself and decide where is necessary to delete the green lines and where is necessary to use single notes instead of the Slider. You Must change these points if you want to get your map ranked, as I said you before 5% is unrankable, it is justificated only in special cases (at the end of a map for example).
    
    And for all 5% raised to 20%.
    Sorry I can't replace any 1\4 slider with note because in my point of view they correspond parts of lyrics which I wanted to stress. Maybe that is not true for you maybe you can't even call this reasonable\music-wise overmap. If that is the case and you decide this as unrankable issue so let it be so. :\
    
    
    

That's all, all difficulties look very cute, I don't have anything to point out in them.. But sadly you made this bad experiment with the 5%.
Remember, is unrankable nowadays :/.
After all of these (and the others in the map) are fixed, Call me back!
I'll pop over this..

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

What is the point on have silenced ticks, if there is no sound over those ticks? is just makes no sense at all.
I don't know why you say that they make sense, if there is no sound just don't add anything is easy as this.. Oh well.. I won't rebubble this, sorry (I know that you didn't call me, but still).

Andrea wrote:

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

What is the point on have silenced ticks, if there is no sound over those ticks? is just makes no sense at all.
I don't know why you say that they make sense, if there is no sound just don't add anything is easy as this.. Oh well.. I won't rebubble this, sorry (I know that you didn't call me, but still).

I have to agree here, if you're using silenced sliderends, why did you put them in the first place? They shouldn't be there at all, since they can only be confusing through playing and they're also not fun to play, since they don't make any sound or anything, just my opinion though.

1. 00:20:954 (2,3) - Both this sliders following vocals, what ends in audible beat. Reducing volume instead of silence would work better here.
2. 00:23:954 (1,2) - I disagree with silent sliderend here. Following vocals would be better in this case, for example try something like this
   
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 00:42:293 (1,2) - Again, please don't silence sliderends for gameplay reasons. Following vocals here works much better too:
   
   
   SPOILER

   
4. 00:51:053 (1,2) - Two sliders what follows vocals what ends on weak beat. Mapping this part with single notes will sounds a bit empty, so i completely agree with 5% sliderends at this part.
5. 00:55:417 (1,2) - And here it was done bad. Vocals dont require 5% here :\
6. 00:58:144 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Disagree with all silent sliderends here. It's ok to create your own rhythm while mapping, but it doesnt fit well here as for me. If you want to keep your rhythm at this part you should raise volume at sliderends.
7. 01:08:237 (8,9) - Sliders snapped to vocals what have weak ending. Makes sense here.
8. 01:26:779 (1,2) - Same here.
9. 01:32:842 (1,2,3) - But not here :\ Vocals have audible beats and would be better to re-adjust this part follow vocals.
10. 01:35:247 (1,2) - And here it's makes sense again
11. 01:49:162 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Don't sinence sliderends here. They snapped to audible beats. Actually, try to add whistles to the ends of sliders, it would sounds even better.
12. 01:57:162 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^
13. 02:05:713 (9) - wanna add kiai-fountain? XD
14. 02:14:304 (1,2,3,4) - Disagree. Please don't silence ends just to create 1/4 jumps, music dont requires silence here and it can be mapped just with single notes. If you want to keep your rhythm here you must raise volume at this part.
15. 02:17:840 (1,2,3,4) - ^
16. 02:30:523 (7) - wanna add kiai-fountain? XD
17. 02:34:090 (1,2) - Here it works. Vocals goes longer than one note and end on weak beat, so 5% would be enoug audible here.
18. 02:42:154 (1,2) - ^
19. 02:43:913 (2) - "OF destiny". Vocals at this part have audible ending, so 5% is unnesessary here.
20. 02:56:063 (1,2,3) - All beath here are audible, please raise volume or re-adjust to vocals as i suggested before
21. 02:58:322 (1,2) - Well-used here, good job.
22. 03:00:074 (4) - OF destiny again, it should be more audible.
23. 03:06:108 (1) - Any reason to slider at all here? Single note works much better for this case, IMO.

Sieg wrote:

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

What is the point on have silenced ticks, if there is no sound over those ticks? is just makes no sense at all.
I don't know why you say that they make sense, if there is no sound just don't add anything is easy as this.. Oh well.. I won't rebubble this, sorry (I know that you didn't call me, but still).

Mancuso, I already tried to explain that there is no "no sound" they all have sounds or lyrics on end that I don't want to express (because it's weak compared to main rhythm) but I want go get hold play from players on this "long beats". eg 00:20:954 (2) - ends on piano but holds lyrics and follows drums. This is absolutely perfectly playable, this have great rhythm/play flow with 5% far better then with 20% and this is not only mine opinion

Well, guys, thanks. I just hope you can understand my point of view here.

Andrea wrote:

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

What is the point on have silenced ticks, if there is no sound over those ticks? is just makes no sense at all.
I don't know why you say that they make sense, if there is no sound just don't add anything is easy as this.. Oh well.. I won't rebubble this, sorry (I know that you didn't call me, but still).

I have to agree here, if you're using silenced sliderends, why did you put them in the first place? They shouldn't be there at all, since they can only be confusing through playing and they're also not fun to play, since they don't make any sound or anything, just my opinion though.

• -> My take on this; 01:05:480 (6,7) - this and similars are just exact cases of the above mentioned; the vocals have fairly much pressure behind them and also are longer lasting, so a silenced sliderend feels well in place as it expresses the lasting vocals without putting and unfitting hitsound there; if I wanted a hit there, I would have put circles on them, and yes, then that'd be both overmapped and unfitting, but a silenced sliderend is just perfectly fine here (or so I believe on that whole thing)

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Everything is better now, let me point out some little things that I missed before..
yeah... i guess so

Advanced:

• 00:29:237 (1,2) - You can maybe try to avoid this overlap, it looks a bit weird actually.
maybe but it supposed to be there as for me i find this one very cute

• 00:37:332 (5) - new combo to emphasize the jump and the change in the music (?
• 00:39:544 (5) - (^)
• 01:30:453 (5) - (^)
usually I don't mind to make NC changes but there's so many combo colors here and they arranged in such a balance (imo :3) so I'm afraid to touch them again e.g. dark colors 00:36:227 (1) - 00:38:438 (1) - on heavy part here fits great and when music become stronger 00:58:144 (1) - i use new color and so on 01:31:506 (1) - etc etc . Again, I don't mind to change them but prefer to leave this as it is until this is critical needed.

• 02:23:398 (2,3,4,5,6) - i'd space out a bit more this 1/2 pattern, actually it has a similar spacing as 1/4 patterns and could cause some of confusion I think.
10% more spaced
• 02:25:428 (2,3,4,5,6) - (^)
10% more spaced

• 02:26:319 (x) - Are you not missing a note here? xD
yeah but with this anitijumps it's hard to grab 1\4 and make all-way good pattern :\

• 02:37:612 (5) - new combo (?
described above

again wall of red text, i'm starting to afraid this xd

Medium:

• 01:24:451 (2,3) - Use the y axis for a perfect symetry, the pattern will look much better . Is simpler like this

Screenshoot + Code

79,24,84451,2,0,P|119:21|218:51,1,140,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
298,48,85227,2,0,P|363:24|433:24,2,140,14|14|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

great

Beginner:

• 00:29:237 (4,1) - Swap this combo placement? fits better with vocals at least
swap is fine, don't harms NC pattern over the song

Nothing else to say here.
Consider this stuff and call me back again!

again wall of red text, i'm starting to afraid this xd

1. 00:46:677 (1) - Honestly it seems to fit the song better if you replace this with a single circle just like you've done at 00:42:293 (1). IMO it plays nicer that way. You might say it follows the lyrics, but I only hear the lyrics expanding into 1/4 on the second slider 00:46:951 (2). On the first slider, vocals hold through the 1/2.
   
2. 00:49:143 (9) - Could convert this to 1/4 slider to follow vocal pickup.
   
3. 00:51:053 (1) - Same as 00:46:677 (1).
   
4. 00:53:507 - If you don't want to add a note, I'd like to suggest again to make 00:52:962 (6,7) - flow away from the slider 00:53:780 (1) so the gap in rhythm feels more natural. If they flow at the slider, the player reaches the slider early and has to wait. You can try making jump downwards to 7 which you might like to accent that "whistle" sound you are going for if I recall correctly from IRC. Here's just an example placement to show you what I mean:
   
   Example

   
5. 00:55:417 (1) - Same as 00:46:677 (1). I won't make you changes these, it's just I thought it would be better to change all of them since you changed 00:42:293 (1,2) and lyrics are essentially following the same rhythm set at all four places. It simply follows the music better.
   
6. 01:07:847 (6,7) - How about a little more curve on these? It will flow nicer into the 8.
   
   Example

   
   5: (231,61)
   6: (246,92)
   7: (248,128)
7. 01:34:980 (3) - Kind of a violent jump to the 01:35:247 (1) imo. Try placing the 3 around (404,24) instead and see if you like it. Could be nicer flow into 1 also.
   
   Example

   
8. 01:38:996 (8) - Add NC? Makes for a cleaner and more interactive stream imo if you add a NC when the song has a change like right here.
   
9. 01:42:210 (1,2,3,4,5) - These feel a bit randomly placed to me, you could experiment with a nicer pattern. Star/square, any variation might be nice.
   
10. 01:55:029 (5,1) - I'd prefer switch the NC's here. NC on the 5 is more appropriate with the music and the stream being the same color as the slider is more appealing imo.
    
11. 01:56:096 (6) - Similar to 01:38:996 (8). You can try a NC here and see if you like.
    
12. 02:07:914 - Add a note is still totally epic. :< 02:10:095 - 02:12:218 - same.
    
13. 02:14:304 (1,2,3,4) - Try Ctrl+J on the stream to provide nicer flow into 5 after 4.
    
    Example

    
    Or you could experiment with Ctrl+J on 02:15:314 (5) and then rearranging as you see fit. Current flow from 4-5 is not very good imo.
14. 02:22:135 (4) - Hm remove the finish makes more sense to me. Three finishes in a row here seems a bit unfitting since there is no finish in the music at 02:22:135.
    
15. 02:52:020 (5,1,2,3) - I still think that pause is pretty unfitting but if you want to keep it that's alright.
    
16. 03:04:845 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd love to see a full beautiful epic half circle on these.
    
    Example

    

1. 01:42:210 (1) - NC seems pretty unnecessary here, I suggest remove it considering 03:04:845 (5).
   
2. 03:08:634 (1) - I'd much prefer that you remove the NC here and instead add a note at 03:08:887 with a NC on it so the player can smash it along with the music, then start the spinner at 03:09:141 or on the blue tick before it if you prefer.

1. 01:09:268 (3) - I don't really see the purpose of having the repeat on the red tick. It seems way more fitting with the music to have the repeat on 01:09:781 instead. I suggest shortening this slider and adding a circle.
   
   Example

   
2. 02:42:658 (3) - I'd like it to have more bend to better match the 02:40:641 (1). Try copying the 1 and resizing it to make the 3.
   
   Example

   
3. 02:51:258 (4,1) - Don't like this rhythm much. It seems way nicer to end the 4 at 02:51:766 and have circle at 02:52:275 and a long slider at 02:52:783. I think the hit at 02:52:783 is way too important for it to be in the middle of the slider.