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20:39 Irreversible: \o/ !
20:39 Irreversible: xD
20:39 -GN: hiii
20:39 -GN: i gave up on that piano thing
20:40 Irreversible: huh?
20:40 -GN: but now it's going to be ranked whenever frost logs on
20:40 -GN: yeah there was a bit of discussion regarding the piano snapping at the end of Another
20:40 Irreversible: that's cool *-*
20:40 -GN: solved now though \:D/
20:41 Irreversible: great
21:38 Irreversible: btw, what about my mod? xDD
21:42 -GN: aa i was supposed to do that yes
21:42 -GN: lol i forgot
21:43 Irreversible: xDD dw
21:43 -GN: i'll test the diffs yeah
21:45 Irreversible: cool
21:46 -GN: 01:05:712 - i can't help but feel that there should be a circle here or something
21:47 Irreversible: where?
21:47 -GN: err, in konei's normal
21:47 -GN: petals*
21:47 Irreversible: oh that's his diff though xD
21:47 -GN: i figured i'd point it out still lol
21:49 -GN: 00:05:377 (1) - in normal, that breathe in sound lol
21:50 Irreversible: xDD
21:51 -GN: 01:15:907 (5) - maybe you should make this into a slider that lasts until 1:16:241 ?
21:51 -GN: it feels a bit uninituitive
21:52 -GN: and considering there's a sound there it's confusing o:
21:52 Irreversible: where?
21:52 -GN: still normal
21:52 *-GN is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/288504 Acme Iku - petal-go-round [Normal]]
21:52 -GN: yeah, still normal
21:52 -GN: lol
21:52 Irreversible: oh well
21:52 Irreversible: i like it like
21:52 Irreversible: to end there
21:52 -GN: hmm i guess
21:53 -GN: also another thing the red point sliders look a bit out of place since you don't use a lot of them
21:53 -GN: consider making more, or replacing them all with curved sliders
21:53 -GN: that'd look better i think
21:53 Irreversible: §some variation isn't bad i guess though :c
21:54 Irreversible: i used some i guess
21:54 Irreversible: in the last part
21:54 Irreversible: XD
21:54 Irreversible: but yeah, you're right
21:54 -GN: yeah, variation is good but it feels more inconsistent than anything
21:54 Irreversible: but i really don't wanna remap normal Q-Q
21:54 -GN: nah, you only need to change some of the sliders
21:54 -GN: you can keep most of the original flow i think
21:54 -GN: just for looks sake
21:54 -GN: anyway moving to hard!
22:00 -GN: 00:44:987 (2,3) - in hard i thought these looked a little weird so i made another shape for them http://puu.sh/4eWXB.jpg
22:00 Irreversible: i'm scared of downvote because of the voice
22:00 -GN: just a minor suggestion but they looked so plain, you should change them somehow o:
22:00 Irreversible: oh how nice from you
22:01 Irreversible: SEND ME THE CODE
22:01 Irreversible: xDD
22:01 -GN: rofl
22:03 -GN: um yeah i'll put it in the post and add the time and diff i guess
22:03 Irreversible: oki
22:05 -GN: 00:53:678 (3,4) - maybe this should be spaced a bit more, it's not the playability but it's a bit weird looking
22:06 Irreversible: fixed
22:07 -GN: 01:05:712 (5,6,1) - also i think these should be vertically aligned!
22:07 -GN: you do the same on 01:04:375 (2,3) - so it'd look more natural i think
22:09 Irreversible: okii
22:12 -GN: 01:21:255 (4,1,2,3,1) - this looks misaligned somehow
22:12 -GN: maybe you should try another ctrl shift d thing o:
22:13 Irreversible: fixed
22:14 -GN: 01:27:355 (1) - also this spinner isn't the same in hard as in insane, it starts 1/4 earlier
22:14 Irreversible: fixed
22:14 -GN: every diff seems to do that spinner differently though... a bit weird but yeah hard insane should be the same either way
22:14 -GN: over to insane
22:17 -GN: i noticed while playing that the earlier parts of the map have some inconsistent spacing between some fast 1/2s which plays alright but looks weird too D:
22:17 -GN: well some of them seem to be used to great effect as jumps
22:17 -GN: i'll try finding the ones that look weird
22:18 -GN: 00:14:904 (2) - this one i guess
22:19 -GN: 00:15:572 (4,5,6) - you might want to curve these so they look neater
22:19 Irreversible: fixed maybe?
22:19 Irreversible: xD
22:19 Irreversible: no :c
22:19 Irreversible: triangle <3
22:20 Irreversible: mod the hitsounds
22:20 Irreversible: <3
22:20 -GN: yeah about those it might just be my setup and custom hitsounds
22:20 -GN: but the drum set sounds so loud in comparison to everything
22:21 -GN: you might want to find every instance of those and decrease their volume a bit so they sound less dominant and more complimenting the music
22:21 Irreversible: o.o
22:21 Irreversible: so i should lower the volume
22:22 Irreversible: overall?
22:22 -GN: yeah but only on the drum hitsounds
22:22 -GN: i think
22:22 Irreversible: uhm
22:22 -GN: you might want to look over yourself and try to find something sounding weird, as i said i have a very clear hitsound setup
22:22 Irreversible: well idk D:
22:22 -GN: drums are sorta loud o:
22:23 Irreversible: hmm
22:25 Irreversible: was useful
22:25 Irreversible: >w<
22:25 Irreversible: thanks for the mod
22:25 -GN: oh one more thing
22:25 -GN: 00:59:026 (1,3,4) - could you curve these three a bit? the four straight sliders in a row looks less pretty than curving them! o:
22:25 -GN: also i guess i'm done
22:26 -GN: pretty good map, will be on the lookout for it on the ranked boards
22:26 Irreversible: yeah i curve them
22:26 -GN: i wonder if cookiezi could DT this lol
22:26 Irreversible: *-* thank you!
22:26 Irreversible: loool

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11t wrote:

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[General]

00:00:196 - I think you should make the hitsounds quieter here in the beginning. Relative to the volume of the music, they're way too loud. In general, I think your soft sample sections could use a ~20% volume decrease. yeah sure, why not

[Insane 2.0]

Drain Rate: consider decreasing to 6. The drain gets pretty silly at some points. For example, this slider alone 00:09:723 (1) drains off about 2/5ths of the HP bar. Missing one slider takes off a huge chunk of HP, about 1/4 to even 1/2 in some cases. I'll check that!

Overall Difficulty: consider decreasing? I'm not too familiar with OD settings but from what I've seen from other maps, I don't think this difficulty is well-suited for OD8. You're probably right, OD 7

00:09:723 (1) - Consider Ctrl+G? This creates more space between it and the previous slider, starts the heart in a more logical location, and the initial clockwise motion seems to flow better from your previous objects in my opinion. I personally don't think you have to change the position of 00:12:564 (2) (or anything after) if you do Ctrl+G the heart slider. dunno why I had it the other way, fixed

00:14:402 (1) - 464,164 for this one blankets the end of 00:13:734 (3) better. If you do this, readjust 00:15:071 (1) to somewhere around 404,108. good

00:20:419 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is fine, but it feels a bit too straightforward to me. What if you were to Ctrl+G (2) and (3)?

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The increased spacing between (1) and (2) here would add emphasis to the snare hit, while the backwards motion towards the (1) slider caused by the new position of (3) would be representative of the fact that the notes sung by the vocal at both (1) and (3) are of the same pitch. I had something like this before I remapped, and now i added it again :3

Well, in any case I think that the back-and-forth flow that this would create could be a fun addition to this particular section.

00:27:773 (1,2,3,1,2) - The disconnection at 00:28:441 (3,1) feels misplaced. Something like this could work better:

The long slider gives the early cymbal hit in the music more impact, and preserves the vocal sustain. hm, had to remake the whole pattern, but you were right.

00:49:667 (7) - The timing for this slider is a bit weird. The vocal note that you're sustaining here with this slider begins 1/8 beats before the start of this slider. Without resorting to awkward 1/8 snapping for this part, I'm not sure how you could change this to fit better, unless you were to ignore the vocal completely and just extend the stream past the slider to match the percussion. This isn't that big of an issue, but it just feels slightly off to me. yeah, i felt the same way. Dunno what fits here though, i hope this repeated 1/4 slider works.

00:52:675 (1,2) - I'm not sure how much I like the hidden hitcircle here, especially since it isn't repeated with the other long sliders in this section, which all follow the same vocal melody gesture. sure ~

01:03:205 (5,6,1) - Consider stacking so that it's harder to confuse the timing of this with the timing of 01:01:366 (1,2,3,1) . that's fine imo,. you'll get used to it.

01:10:057 (4,1,2) - You could change this so that the sliders don't overlap awkwardly and somewhat inconsistently given the rest of your map. This isn't much of an issue, but could be something to consider changing for the sake of consistency. Here's a couple suggestions:

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Ctrl+G the second slider in the above pictures to preserve the direction of your original flow. i can see your point, but my pattern follow the lyrics so well :c

01:12:731 (1,2,3,4) - These stacks play strangely and the timing between (2) and (3) is ambiguous because the gap, with slider leniency, actually isn't much different from the gap at 01:12:397 (3,1) . What about something like this instead?

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A full beat stack pause would actually be easier to read in my opinion than the current arrangement. uh, that's cool~

[Hard]

Approach Rate: increase to 8. This is a Hard difficulty for a ~180 BPM map and you've got a lot of fast 1/2 beat hitcircles. AR7 puts too much on the screen at one time for the player to be able to accurately process, in my opinion. AR8 makes the map as a whole much easier to read.

00:18:414 (1,2,3) - The spacing here seems rather large and unnecessary. The spacing here is too similar to your usual full beat spacing, and I don't think the music suggests a spacing increase. If you really want to add a jump here, I think a central anti-jump would work fine:

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Though really I don't think jumps are necessary at all here. uhm well, the reason why i placed the jump there is, if you listen to the vocals, they are like.. jumpy.. yeah. That's basically how i wanna empahsize them.

00:28:608 (1,2,3,4,5) - Another section with unnecessarily exaggerated spacing. I don't think there's anything in the music here that would be matched by jumps like this. These are too much of a problem because the gaps are smaller, but they're still somewhat unwarranted in my opinion. Increased spacing like this makes the spacing in the rest of your map potentially confusing for the player, who won't be able to tell as easily if there's actually a full beat gap or if it's just another 1/2 beat jump. i made it smaller, was fairly high xD

No other issues here. Good work!

[Normal]

00:20:085 (4,5,1) - This plays somewhat awkwardly, because 00:20:920 (5) , even though it matches the timing of the snare hit, just feels out of place in the vocal rhythm that you're working with. You can try moving 00:20:920 (5) to 00:21:088 to mirror what you did at 00:17:411 (4,1) , or:

to mirror what you did at 00:15:071 (5,1) . uhm well i think it plays fine, but i'll consider that

00:36:297 (1) - Move back 1/2 beats and extend by 1/2 beats. This matches the music better. it does, but i don't like it >< well, for the sake of the rhythm, changed

01:15:405 (3,4,5,1,2) - This rhythm is hard to read. Try this:

The sliders help to force the rhythm, and I think this arrangement does match the music better. is it that confusing? huehue

Overall I think the rhythm can be very difficult to read in this Normal. I've pointed out some of the more problematic sections but as a whole the map plays a bit awkwardly to me. I'm not sure what you could do in general though, because I think the awkward rhythm is mostly the song's fault, not yours.

[Closing]

In general, this is a very well-designed mapset. On the lower difficulties the rhythm tends to feel somewhat off-beat, but as I said this is probably mostly due to the timing of the vocals in the song. On the higher difficulties, some of the jumps feel a bit excessive and unnecessary in context of the music, but the flow is smooth overall.

Great job, and good luck!

thanks for the bunch of useful suggestions!

Moway wrote:

Hi, per your request.

[General]

I'm pretty sure that the artist should be paraoka. Acme Iku is the maidloid program used to make this song, and thus can't be considered the artist.

Enable widescreen support on all of the difficulties.

I don't think your kiai times make a whole lot of sense. We have a kiai starting at 00:39:305 - but then ends at 00:44:319 - which is the same thing musically and is in fact a continuation of the same section. We also have the same problem again later on. I'd say just remove the first two kiais and instead make a kiai from 01:06:046 to 01:22:090. This makes more sense to me because now we have a kiai going on through the whole section that is pitched up (and a cool kiai fountain opportunity at 01:16:742). Or do it the other way around and have the kiai at the first part since that part is louder. Either way makes more sense to me because the kiai corresponds to a musical idea.

[Konei's Petals]

Interesting that we have a unique difficulty name for the Easy, but I guess that's your choice

00:04:542 (1) - Let's make this symmetrical
00:18:915 - I'd really like a circle here. The strong drum beat and the constant vocals make this feel empty without one.
00:48:664 (3) - delete this circle and have the spinner start here instead. I think now the spinner comes too suddenly and there's not enough time to complete it either.

[Normal]

OD+1 to make it equal to HP like you have in all the other difficulties.

00:00:531 (2,1) - nazi blanket fix
00:02:870 (1,2) - nazi blanket fix
00:09:890 (1) - add finish plz yes
00:19:416 (3,4) - This would look cleaner if you aimed for a more symmetrical look I think~ i hope this jump is ok :3
00:21:255 (1,2) - not as quite of a nazi blanket fix. this one would actually be visibly nicer if you fixed this blanket.
00:27:439 (5,6) - nazi blanket fix
00:27:773 (6) - add a finish to the end of this one I think. yes
00:29:110 (1,2) - nazi blanket fix and symmetry police for (2) sure
00:29:778 (2) - This slider feels really weird to me for the way you mapped this difficulty. Most of what you did matches the vocal perfectly, then this one comes and sounds off because it doesn't. End this at 00:30:447 and add a clap or a finish to the end to match with the music. first of all you tell me to make it symmetric and then shorten it?! omg xD fixed!
00:46:993 (2,3,4,5) - nazi blanket fix
00:55:015 (1) - remove NC here, this feels more part of the previous combo's idea, then
00:55:851 (2) - add NC here for the transition to these finishes
00:57:355 (5) - finish-clap-finish auto sampleset
00:59:528 (1) - not sure if this NC is really needed, I understand that you have that drum thing at the end, but having just 1 slider for the combo before looks kind of off. no, i'd like to leave this
01:05:712 (1,1) - these appear to be slightly off. I'd say stack. OR, I have a sort of feeling that this could present with a bit of a readability problem, so maybe offset these more so that the 2nd slider is more visible. i think this should be fine o:
01:11:394 (1,2) - nazi blanket fix
01:12:063 (2,4) - fix stack
01:15:405 (3) - maybe an NC here to accentuate this finish?
01:16:742 (2) - make this a finish instead
01:16:742 (2,3,1,2,3) - remove all the whistles here, I think her vocal isn't strong enough and the whistles just kind of stick out and are awkward whereas before they fit really well. i have this in the other diffs too, i suppose
01:19:416 (2,3,1) - set sampleset to auto, these sounds were really funny to me
01:20:419 (1,2) - hitler blanket fix
01:24:096 (1,2) - nazi blanket fix

I'm sure I missed a lot of things here, but this is mostly just nazi and random small fixes. fixed all i didn't reply on

[Hard]

00:04:542 (1,2) - looks like this stack got a bit messed up
00:23:427 - either add 2 circles here and 00:23:595, or a slider that starts and ends at those points. Right now it feels very very empty.
00:24:932 - could use a circle here
00:25:767 (5,1) - blanket fix
00:34:625 - circle here
00:57:856 - circle here, this pause feels really awkward and there's this drum roll going on, so you might as well keep going.
01:15:322 (1) - have this start a tick earlier and add a repeat. There's 3 drum hits there and it sounds and feels better that way.
01:16:742 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - don't really like the whistles here for this diff, stand out too much
01:19:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the drum samples here are kind of odd, maybe just keep everything more consistent
01:19:751 (4,1) - fix this blanket up a bit ( i know you probably don't see it during gameplay ,just humor me)

fixed all, except some circles (and the whislte hitsound) Reason is that I want to follow the lyrics here mainly!

[Insane 2.0]

Is there a reason for it to be 2.0? If it has something to do with the song then I guess it's okay, but if it's just a remap or something of the Insane diff, then just name it Insane.

00:09:723 (1) - if you wanted, you could make the points more equivalent across the y axis for a better heart. sure..? what IRC ~
00:25:767 (1,2) - fix stack
00:27:104 (5,1) - not sure if you wanted this or not, but select the whole slider for both of these and remove drum samplset
00:34:625 - I think a circle fits here well it would land on nothing o.o
00:37:466 (1,1,2) - both of these blankets could be tidied up
00:55:182 (1,2) - swap NC places here to put it on the downbeat
00:59:862 (1) - this NC is unnecessary, it's readable without it. consistency D:
01:03:873 (2,4) - fix stack
01:06:714 (1) - remove NC
01:07:383 (3) - NC
01:08:051 (1) - remove NC
01:08:720 (3) - NC
01:09:388 (1) - remove NC
01:10:057 (4) - NC
01:10:558 (1) - remove NC, seems like your comboing was off on this part. This shifts all the NCs to the downbeats. readability D:
01:11:394 (1,2) - might as well shift (2) over to let (1) blanket the slider end so you have a nice series of blanketed sliders here.
01:13:232 (2,3) - don't do this. This stop ruins your flow and doesn't fit here either. Either make (2) into a 1/2 slider or add another circle at 01:13:400 and let it flow instead of having this abrupt stop in the middle of this busy music. didn't add the circle, but replaced it!

Sorry got lazyafter the Normal diff, but I can't handle this song anymore . Most of the stuff is some little fixes so it's not such a big deal anyyway. Good luck~

thanks for your mod, was really useful!!

1. AiMod: Video dimensions are wrong
2. I wouldn't call this video SFW (and therefore rankable), cheap censoring like this has been denied before. I'm deleting the video for the rest of the mod because I personally can't stand it.
3. Wow, BPM 179.5... That must've been annoying to time

1. It's not often that I see an Easy with creative timing
2. 00:03:205 (3,1) - Sliders in this diff are simple so this could be a blanket
3. 00:04:542 (1) - Not perfectly symmetrical, feels off while playing
4. 00:17:912 (1,2) - Those could make a nicer circle
5. 00:48:831 (1) - I think this slider should start at a full beat in an Easy
6. 00:51:004 (1) - I'd make this slider start one beat later, kinda confusing for the diff right now

1. Blankets in this diff aren't done very well, you might want to adjust slider points a bit to make them nicer
2. 00:17:411 (4,1) - I'd put an object somewhere between those two, feels weird
3. 00:19:416 (3,4) - Too far from each other
4. 01:15:405 (1,2) - In a Normal this should probably be a slider

1. 00:28:608 (1,2,3,4,1) - Inconsistent spacing
2. 01:15:322 (1) - Really awkward to play, make it start on the red tick?
3. 01:27:522 (1) - Why doesn't it just start on the white tick o_O

1. omg someone else who loves back-and-forths <3
2. No complaints here really

1. 00:09:723 (1) - Repeat arrow is pointing the wrong way, confusing o_o Can't you adjust the slider a little to fix that?
2. 00:34:124 (2) - This should be a little higher up to be easier to hit

Konei wrote:

Teara is missing in the tags by the way.

Nymph wrote:

I suddenly realized the lyric of this song is very very hentai =_=

11t wrote:

bubbled woo

rankrankrank

happy30 wrote:

[General]
- Add some hentai warning in the description (preferably in japanese for japanese kids) sure

[Normal]
00:52:007 (2) - Prev/next spacing should be the same you're right

[Hard]
00:28:441 (4) - ^ ye
00:29:110 (3) - Weird spacing here, please enlighten me about this no, i fixed it (that one was actually really weird, I guess i wanted to put some variation, but it's better without xD
00:38:302 (4) - remove this note and place the next slider here, maybe reduce its velocity well i've done it here and in collab, but i guess in insane it's fitting (if you listen to it with 25 % you can hear the red tick circle), i think its ok to fix it here tho, because of easier rhythm.

[Collab]
00:05:377 (1) - end this 1/4 later look down below xD
00:09:890 (1) - start this 1/2 earlier fixed o.o idk what happened to the spinners.. all were messed up o.o
00:38:302 (1,2) - same as in hard, this doesn't sound well. read above

[Insane]
00:33:622 (2,3,1) - no, this doesn't play well to you, does it? ah yes, i'd like to keep this
00:38:302 (2,1) - again same mistake here. no fix here, but in the other diffs