Hey, m4m from my queue

[Timing]
Offset: +10, feels much better to play
Changed. After loading the .mp3 in Audacity and FL I noticed the offset was actually 30ms too early, but for some reason +30 just sounds way too late in osu.

[Storyboard]
You go over 5.0x SB load multiple times throughout this, please try to work and alleviate this. This link may help
Working on fixing.

[Normal]
01:50:666 - The background fade out here seems like a mistake, when compared to the other two diffs
The BG fade here is the same for all three difficulties. If you're talking about the one I have here in the beginning, it's because I don't map this section, so there's no point in having the monochrome effect.

This is too difficult of a map to be the lowest in the set. Please look into making or finding an Easy for this song
I'm not sure what to do yet, I'll have to think about this.

Going off of the assumption that you will be doing that, I'd suggest hp and od +1 to fit the difficulty of this map better

00:15:999 (1) - The blanket effect you're going for here is cool, but imo on its own this slider doesn't look very good, since it doesn't wrap around 3 very much.
Fixed.

00:22:333 (2,3,4,5,6) - Things like this are the biggest reason why I say this is too hard. Jumps in the lowest diff are very highly discouraged. Now, with an easy to catch the lower spectrum of players, these would be cool and interesting, but with the full set in mind they're not good.
00:27:666 (2,3,4,5) - Same idea as ^, although I would say that even in a harder normal this pattern could be confusing, since 4 is appearing as you hit 2 and it's very close to it.
I'll have to think about what to do with these, depending on whether I make an Easy or just make this difficulty easier.

00:29:333 (1,2,3) - Try to fiddle around with 2 so that there's the same amount of blanket space from 1 as 3
00:30:666 (3,1) - oooh jeez super nazi slider blanket error here, yeah almost there
00:33:333 (3,4) - another nazi, but this triangle could be easily fixed. x:388 y:180 looks better
00:42:666 (1) - I don't think this jump fits, plus it's very drastic, especially 4 to 1. ctrl g this please
00:43:833 - I feel a note here would sound nice, it's the climax of the drum build up and it's kinda left empty
00:50:666 (1,2,3) - not particularly fond of how this flows, perhaps this could work well? the jump just didn't suit the music at that point
01:06:666 (1) - Yikes. Really bad idea, slider speed ups are very unexpected and not good at all for a normal. Keep in mind the audience you're mapping for here. They're usually people who don't have a strong understanding of the game yet
01:43:676 (3) - (nazi) triangle hah
01:16:343 (4) - I don't think this jump fits well, the ones after do though. try x:180 y:296 for this guy
01:49:843 - I definitely feel these notes should be mapped, the map doesn't conclude well without them
Fixed all above, thanks!

[Lunatic]
Replay
While it does play fine, and isn't too much trouble, it just kinda seems like jump spam when the song doesn't make me feel like there should be all of these jumps the entire time.
Not saying it's not fun, but it's a little excessive
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00:05:333 (5,6,7) - I think these three sliders should interact with each other more. like the first two sets 00:02:666 (1,2) and 00:03:999 (3,4) both do so well, but these just seem random
I'm going to remap this section.

00:07:333 (1) - NC here since you start a new idea
I've been getting a lot of suggestions about this, but this isn't something I want to change.
I'd have to add another black combo color, which would only be used in this one section.The single continuous combo here reinforces the idea of uniformity and monotoneity.At the end of the day, the combo is only 13 notes long.

00:09:333 (5,6) - again, these two should interact and balance each other out more
I'll find some way to change the arrangement at these two spots you mentioned.

00:11:999 (3) - NC here to signify the start of a stream after all those jumps
I don't want to be left with a two-object combo. 3 is the link between the triangular pattern and the stream, so I wouldn't be able to NC it in either direction.

00:19:333 to 00:22:999 - this is one of the sections I think of when I say that the jumps get a little excessive. This just seems never ending, and the song really isn't that intense at this point.
This was actually what I was trying to illustrate here. There are musical phrases that are endlessly repeating in this section: 00:19:343 (3,4,5,6,7,8) focuses on the circular arpeggiation and 00:21:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) brings the continuous off-beat synth hits into the forefront. My use of repetition here is meant to convey a feeling of "never ending", as you say.

00:29:333 (1,2) - Here, since a new barline has hit and we're in a new miniphrase, I think the design idea should change so it's not hanging over from the previous one. It's like, you went to a new idea like a count late
Continuity. I wanted to preserve the bass rhythm that I focus on here by continuing it into the next musical measure.

00:31:999 (1,2) - Same as ^, the idea hanging over the barline like this doesn't feel as good as it could
Continuity again, this time with the circular arpeggiation, which is why I also chose this particular object arrangement.

00:34:666 to 00:42:666 - a section that just doesn't fit with the music at all. It's alright to have slightly easier, tasteful sections in the insane. This is just non-stop motion that gets tiring very quickly, and isn't warranted at all. I mean, it's a soft melody, the bass, and vocals here.
I disagree with this. This section is still fast-paced with the constant kick drum beat and the quick and steady bass; slow vocals isn't enough to warrant a slow section in my opinion. The persistence of speed is what I want to illustrate here.

00:56:666 (4,5,6) and 00:58:666 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The offbeat notes here are hard to read, especially since a couple times they're covered up by the sliders preceding them ( 00:59:166 (3) ) This transition 00:59:166 (3,4) - is also very hard to read.
I'm not too sure what I can do here. I've exaggerated the spacing based on the rhythm, and there isn't a better way to do this that I can think of.

01:07:166 (3,4,5,6) - I think a slight rearrangement in these couple notes feels better. Try this out? This rhythm sits a bit better with the music, and the notes keep a good flow going
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This rhythm does fit better, thank you!

01:10:833 (1,2) - ctrl g for much smoother flow from the pattern before
I want to actually disrupt the flow here; the clockwise flow that I have now is to prepare the player for the stream of counter-clockwise circles that come just after this.

01:18:666 (6,7) - The reverse jump here is a little too abrupt imo, I think rotating 7 some and moving it closer to 6 makes it feel better
Fixed this a bit.

The rest plays much better in comparison. The beginning is just unnecessarily hard for the mood of the music at those points

It's actually a pretty solid map, I just had a good amount to say about it I guess ha. Good luck!
Thank you for your detailed suggestions!

[Lunatic]

00:05:333 (5) - a new combo would fit here, you'll need to add another monochrome combo color then
00:07:999 (6) - NC here as well. You might want to re-check the whole map to remove those colors later on
I've been getting a lot of suggestions about this, but this isn't something I want to change.
I'd have to add another black combo color, which would only be used in this one section.The single continuous combo here reinforces the idea of uniformity and monotoneity.At the end of the day, the combo is only 13 notes long.

00:23:500 (8) - a finish fits a lot better than a clap here imo
I think a clap has a more explosive impact; I might try to look for another custom hitsound though.

00:32:666 (3) - ^
I don't hear this one.

00:56:916 (6) - would be nice if you also followed the music/instruments here as well. That means adding a not on 00:56:833 - and 00:56:999 - . This will also allow you to add more hitsounds.
00:58:916 (3,8) - same goes here as well
I think this would disrupt the 3/4 rhythm and patterns that I have here.

01:31:833 (11,1) - This part kinda plays a bit weird as a double rather than a triple like the previous notes. And there's a noticable beat at 01:31:999 - which shouldn't be skipped imo
I feel like this diversifies the rhythm, and I prioritize the rhythm of the synth lead here over all else.

00:02:666 (1) - add a finish here
00:29:333 (1) - finish
00:50:499 (3) - finish on end
00:51:999 (1) - finish on start
00:55:499 - something should be added here
01:01:333 (1) - a clap here?
01:23:999 (6) - finish
01:25:333 (3) - finish on start
01:25:833 (5) - finish on end
01:26:333 (1) - ^
01:33:333 (1) - finish
01:35:333 (5) - finish on end
01:36:666 (5) - finish on start & end
01:44:000 (1) - finish
All fixed. Thanks for pointing these out!

[Normal]

00:07:999 (1) - You could extend it to 00:12:499 - and add a whistle
I want this spinner to finish before the drum roll starts.

00:54:666 (3) - This plays better if you move it to 00:54:499 - . It also makes more sense with the spacing too
01:06:666 (1) - this is way too unexpected
01:33:333 (1) - finish on start
01:45:999 (5) - finish on end
01:50:666 - this ending feels a bit meh, you could add another repeat on the slider to make it end on a more appropriate point
Fixed all above.

AR 6 plays much better imo

The Normal has too many jumps and the star rating should be below 3,25. For being the easiest difficulty in the mapset, it is really too difficult.
It's really recommended that you make an Easy difficulty to make the spread much better.
I'm still not sure what to do yet. I really don't want to make a difficulty that's just like my Normal except with longer sliders.

The Normal is my only concern here, but the rest is pretty solid imo.
And I have to say that the effects and stuff in your SB is pretty good~♪

The Finish hitsounds I suggested are actually audible in the music, would be nice if you added them.

Anyways, good luck!
Thank you!

From my queue~
I'm glad to accept touhou's request!

[Normal]

1. For normal, it is better to uniform DS as soon as possible I know orz but I couldn't resist putting some jumps in to make the play more interesting
2. 00:54:509 (3,4) - avoid stack Okay, I ctrl+g'd this.
3. 01:05:343 (1,2,3,4,1) - too difficult for normal. it is better to avoid overlap I sort of like how this looks currently. I can see what you mean though, so I'll put it on my list of things to consider and I'll see what others have to say about it.

[Lunatic]

1. 00:33:426 (2) - How about deltete?
2. 00:33:759 (6) - ^ I'll consider the above. It does match the rhythm better but I think it might make the stream awkward to play? I'll see if more people bring this up.
3. 01:06:593 (5,1) - That's fine!!!
4. 01:28:009 (1) - move to x:256 y:172 at the center of "ring.png" That's weird, I placed the ring at 320,240 which is what the center of the screen should be. I think this looks off in the editor, but seems to be more centered in actual play.

I've known the SB method without "osb-file" only after this modding.
That's clever!
~Good Luck~
Thank you!

Hello~M4M request

my map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/104123
please mod 2 diffs because my map is longer than you.. (but include jumping diff because of low quality)
Hi, I'll mod your map ASAP!

[General]

I think you have to make easy diffs ~
You may be right; I'm going to check with a BAT about this. I'm pretty sure NHI is a rankable spread, but I'll check to make sure if this applies in my case.

[Normal]

00:45:343 (1,2) - I suggesthttp://puu.sh/4cfrE.jpg this
This isn't possible due to star difficulty reasons.

how about no break time..?
I think 1:50 of continuous play with no breaks might be too strenuous on a Normal difficulty.

01:48:009 (4) - spinner
A spinner does seem to work better here, but I can't think of a proper transition into it at the moment. I think having these three 01:47:009 (1,2,3) and then going directly into a spinner might be a bit awkward.

[Lunatic]

00:17:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I recommend 8 circle notes
00:28:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
I want to keep these areas more slider-focused, rather than hitcircle-focused.

00:21:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hexagon shape?
I want the repetition to be really prominent here, and also want to keep the sliders straight to contrast with the previous circular arrangement.

00:32:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/4cg2G.jpg
I think this rhythm could work. I'll see if I can think of how to rearrange this particular section.

00:35:009 (4) ~00:53:009 (5) strange..? use reverse sliders plz
I purposefully avoided the use of repeat sliders because I wanted the flow to be constantly moving in a uniform direction, with any abrupt changes occurring not from repeat sliders but from jump patterns based on repetition. I think this fits the bass rhythm in this section more.

01:37:343 (11) - nc
Fixed!

01:50:676 (1) - seems unnecessary
I'm out of ideas orz
I'll add this to my list of things to think about, and I'll change it if I get an idea later.

Awesome map and storyboard.. I respect you
Thank you, I appreciate it!

rank it plz~
I hope I can!

Hi.
M4M from #modreqs, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/106692
Hi, thank you for the mod, I'll get to your map as soon as possible!

[Normal]
00:17:343 (3) - curve for consistency?
00:37:343 (1) - ^
Okay, I applied some slight curves.

00:42:343 (4) - x48y158
I don't like the way this overlaps.

00:54:509 (3) - start 1/2 later?
I originally had this 1/2 beats later, but I changed it because someone earlier pointed out that this follows the vocal rhythm better, and I agree.

01:05:343 (1,2,3,4,1) - yeah, under an insane or something this would be okay, but since this is a normal I would recommend just making (1,2,3,4) into a square or something without as much overlap instead.
This was suggested already, and it's something I'm thinking about changing, but would really love to keep it the way it is now.
If one more person brings this up, I'll change it.

01:25:009 (2) - too hard?
I think the spacing here is okay, compared to the other jumps that I have.

01:32:009 (4,5) - this type of pattern is too hard for beginners
Reduced spacing a bit.

01:16:343 (4,5,6) - too hard?
The spacing here isn't much greater than other jumps that I have in this section.

[Lunatic]

"00:33:426 (2) - How about delete?
00:33:759 (6) - ^
I'll consider the above. It does match the rhythm better but I think it might make the stream awkward to play? I'll see if more people bring this up."
Remove it. I think it plays fine.
Okay, removed as suggested by RandomEffect.

01:09:176 (5) - remove
01:19:843 (5) - ^
I think removing these two would disrupt the flow too much, and make for awkward gaps in the otherwise continuous stream of notes in these sections.

Kinda weird mod, sorry.
Only m4m if you think the mod was good enough.
Your mod helped a lot, thank you!

Thank you for the playtest! I'll get apaffy to take a look at your suggestions.

From my M4M Queue~
Forgive my poor English.

[Normal]

01:49:843 (5) - How about add NC here. Just my Opinion.
I'll consider it. 01:48:009 (4) is linked to both (3) and (5) though, so I thought I'd keep them in the same combo.

[Lunatic]

Perfect for me. Marvelous!

Very AMAZING MAP!
Hope this map to be ranked.
Thank you very much!

from M4M

[Normal]

00:13:343 (1) - how about add slidertick hitsounds? (and all same parts too)
00:28:009 (3) - clap on repeat
Fixed!

01:05:343 (1,2,3,4) - anti jump on normal diff? seems not good :/
You're the third person to mention this, so I'm going to change it.

01:07:676 (1) - delete NC (more and more like 01:13:009 (1) - 01:18:343 (1) - , etc)
I want to keep these for aesthetic purposes.

01:48:009 (4) - finish on end
Fixed!

and i don't recommend some jump patterns if you don't want to add Easy diff

[Lunatic]

00:10:676 (1,1,1) - NCs should be placed like http://puu.sh/4cTyn.jpg this to following music
I want to place NCs to be consistent with the triangular arrangement here.

00:32:676 (3) - how about add finish here? feels empty (also 00:33:343 (1) - here and 00:33:843 (5) - here)
Fixed!

01:06:509 - consider add a note here since drum sound hears like tripet for me (and ofc plays better)
There is a note here, but I think making this a triple might make the section even more confusing than it is now.

01:06:676 (1) - i don't think this SV changing is good idea, really confusing for player even Lunatic diff,well if you want to keep this plz add NC 01:07:009 (2) - here at least
This can be an issue, but is something I am really against changing unless absolutely necessary. I don't want to add an NC on (2) because then there's no path indicator to it.

01:16:343 (2,3) - try this rhythm http://puu.sh/4cTpT.jpg current rhythm feels little bit awkward
This follows the rhythm better but breaking up the stream I think plays awkwardly. I'll consider this.

01:31:926 (12,1) - if you listen music with 25% playback, then you might think http://puu.sh/4cTrJ.jpg this rhythm is better
01:42:593 (8) - need a note here instead slider (and 01:42:676 (1) - reduce slider's length to 1/1)
I want to follow the lead synth, not the percussion. I think the blue tick slider adds a bit of diversity to this section.

01:48:009 (11) - NC
Fixed.

01:50:676 (1) - how about soft sampleset instead?
I reduced the sample volume, but I left it as my custom Normal. It suits the bass better.

good luck~
Thank you!

RandomEffect wrote:

[appafy's Hard]

1. 00:18:676 (1,2) - it is better to avoid stack Already did this in a previous update
2. 00:59:343 (4,5) - it is better to stack, I think sure
3. 01:07:343 (2,3) - How about this? I like it the way it is now, sorry
   

Navy wrote:

[apaffy's Hard]

00:05:343 (7) - nc

(2,3,4,5) ex)00:15:343 (2,3,4,5) ,00:20:676 (2,3,4,5) ..
repeated jump is hard for me.. I think it's fine, but if someone else mentions it I'll change it

I recommend utilizing stack (2,3) and (4,5)

I think adding circle between (1) and (2) makes the map exciting

I think something got mixed up when you tried to copy/paste this because I'm not sure what the rest is trying to say sorry D:

Navy wrote:

00:28:676 (2,3,4,5) - move (3) the overlapping was hard to fix so the whole pattern has been redone as a result

00:33:843 (1) - delete nc it wouldn't fit with the music

01:24:843 (4,5,6) - distance thanks for spotting that

[Seraphin] wrote:

[apaffy's Hard]
01:12:843 (3) - start 1/2 later o- okay
01:17:843 (2) - move out from under (1) for consistency it wouldn't be consistent with 3,4 and it plays fine so no

yachiru4 wrote:

[Hard]
It's actually good, I've just started to lose my touch a bit that's all
Attempted 3 tries. There's a few things wrong here.
At 00:12:009 -, I don't like how they're stacked, its too confusing. Alright, multiple people have mentioned this now. What if I rotate 00:12:009 (1) - so while it still is stacked now the first slider doesn't overlap the second? I think the stack itself is fine but I can see how the overlap is confusing.
00:40:009 - Eh these two sliders don't look nice being overlapped, try a blanket? I actually think it looks good as is lol, and there's a couple blankets almost right after this so no sorry

Lirami wrote:

apaffy's Hard

00:12:009 (1) - I think it is more better to make like this. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/952741 slider's finish point: (40,276) imo. I did something very similar to this
00:40:009 (1,2) - Try to avoid overlap. the overlap was intentional though :<
01:30:009 (2,3,4,5,1) - avoid stack. It can be confused to Hard Difficulty player. I'll think about rearranging and see what I can come up with.

HelloSCV wrote:

apaffy's Hard

00:08:009 (1) - reduce spinner by 00:10:343 - here plz, this spinner isn't good for Hard diff imo good idea
00:12:009 (1,1) - stack perfectly? -nazi think it's better?
00:33:509 (2,5) - delete NC ok
00:37:676 (1) - clap on start ok
00:55:176 (1) - also delete NC ok
01:36:343 (1,1) - ^ this doesn't really make sense
01:48:676 (1) - ^ ok

Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For most uses (e.g. full-screen images), the maximum is 800x600 pixels, although 640x480 is highly preferred. The editor is 640x480 at default, so there's really no need to use anything larger for full-screen purposes.

Hi '-'
From my modding queue
Hi!

[General]

- There is a minor issue with the size of elements of your storyboard.
Ranking Criteria
Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For most uses (e.g. full-screen images), the maximum is 800x600 pixels, although 640x480 is highly preferred. The editor is 640x480 at default, so there's really no need to use anything larger for full-screen purposes.
I'll look into fixing this. I'm not sure what the maximum dimensions are for a widescreen storyboard.

[Normal]

Hp+1 / Od+1 ?
I like the drain rate that I have now. I'll think about the OD.

Why this diffs don't have the same storyboard's begining ?
I didn't map anything in the beginning, so there's no need to storyboard there.

- 00:30:676 (3) - I don't think this note really fit in a normal. There is a 1,86* jump but this can't be just solved with a ctrl+g :s
I have other jumps in the 1.80x range in this difficulty, so I think this is fine.

- 00:50:676 (1) - You can try this for a better blanket with (2) http://puu.sh/4etWY.jpg
I remapped this section a bit.

- 00:54:509 (3) - Probably a bit confusing for a normal and I'm not sure if it's really rankable (probably yes)
Okay, I'll leave it like this for now.

- 01:14:009 (1) - I'm not sure that the curve is really useful for the flow or aestheticism.
You're right. I removed the curve.

- 01:27:676 (6,1) - Anti-jump in a normal. Probably a bit hard ?
Possibly. I'll see if more people bring this up.

- 01:48:009 (4) - Finish this 1beat before and add a note to 01:49:343. I think this version is more logic with the song http://puu.sh/4eukT.jpg
I like the arrangement I have now.

[Lunatic]

I don't think a combo of 13 is really a nice idea for your intro so
- 00:05:343 (5) - Add Nc
- 00:08:009 (10) - Add Nc
I've been getting a lot of suggestions about this, but this isn't something I want to change.
- I'd have to add another black combo color, which would only be used in this one section.
- The single continuous combo here reinforces the idea of uniformity and monotoneity.
- At the end of the day, the combo is only 13 notes long.

- 00:29:009 (5) - Why not try to stack this one with the begining of 00:28:509 (3) - you can probably make a better patter like that, but you need to rework the slider shape and probably the position of 00:29:343 (1) -
Good suggestion! I changed this.

- 00:44:176 (4) - Add Nc ?
(4) continues a word that was started at (3), so I don't want to split these combos.

- 00:47:009 (10,1) - Remove nc for (10) and add nc for (1), more logic with the song
This is consistent with the NC pattern I've been using for the rest of this section (starting NCs at the start of a new vocal line)

- 00:59:593 (5,6) - Swap this note's positions ? More logic with your pattern and better distance spacing.
Doing this would place (5) too close to (4), and it wouldn't fit the rhythm because (5) is supposed to be equidistant from (4) and (6) in time.

- 01:14:009 (9) - Add Nc
- 01:14:676 (1) - Remove Nc
Fixed!

- 01:48:009 (1) - Such as the Normal's diff I personally more hear something like that http://puu.sh/4evgI.jpg
I'm working on changing this part, since it's a bit of a weird repeat slider.

That's all for me =)
Nice job, star
Thank you very much! I appreciate it!

m4m (muffin4muffin) from your post in my thread
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[General]

i don't think you'll be able to fit every modder in the special thanks by the end of this
it's okay i can make two columns

i think you could find a more enjoyable soft clap for this, this one's kind of boring to me
fine okay

[Lunatic]

just some aesthetic stuff
00:28:509 (3) - why isn't this the same shape as (1) if you're going to stack it on it's end? maybe ctrl+v (1) and then ctrl+j and sort out it overlapping with (5)
it is! actually 99% of these sliders are copypasted from the same one w

00:47:176 (1,3) - ;_;
i-i don't know what you're talking about!

00:51:676 (8) - i think this is the only time you use this shape in the map, why not add it some more?
because it's ugly and i don't like it
okay I added some more around this section

01:00:509 (3) - ctrl+g this and see how it looks, i think it's better
I think this makes the gap between (2) and (3) too small and awkward.

01:06:509 - i think i'd really just like a triplet here..especially if i was being forced to play with the sb on for some reason
geez okay I'll put it on my list

[Normal]

map the repetive first 10 seconds please..orz
I'll think about it!

looks おk, but needs more whacky apaffy shapes
i-i don't know what you're talking about!

hi here is modding. sorry bad english and little modding...
Hi!

[Lunatic]
00:58:926 (2) - move to 00:58:954 (1/6)
The timing here sounds more 3/4ths to me, so I'm leaving it this way.

01:24:009 (6) - x:296 y:44
I wanted a triangle at 01:23:009 (2,5,6) here.

[Normal]
i thinks no problem.

Hi~from queue
Hi!

[Normal]

00:21:343(1) the end of slider one grid left
Fixed!

00:22:676(3) how about x288 y164?
I like this way this flows better, even if it doesn't make a neat triangle.

00:26:676(1) red point in the middle of this slider please
for example
The shape I have currently also matches the direction of 00:25:343 (3) , so I want to keep it.

00:29:009(4,1) ahh...it's jump,i just think keep distance snap will be better..
I think the jump here fits, and the spacing isn't too extreme.

00:36:009(1) keep 0.90x
I don't think there's any noticeable difference in play between 0.90x and 1.00x, and this does look slightly better so I'll keep it.

00:49:343(3) i think use red point will be more straight xD
01:22:676(1) try
01:32:009(4) stack 01:30:009(5) end
01:40:676(4,1) i'm not sure if you will be prefer it
Fixed all above!

[Lunatic]

00:28:009(1,2,3,4,5) it's cool~! xD
Haha, thanks!

00:35:509(6,4) why not slide like 00:34:509(3,4)
I wanted the curve to slowly straighten out here.

01:25:343(3) bent?
I like how this straight slider flows. I can't really think of a good direction to bend it in.

01:50:509(4) delete and add a slider slide to 01:50:843
This slider matches the last two bass notes that close out the song, so I want to keep it.

that all~ very cool storyboard >3<
Good Luck!!
Thank you!

I didn't change most of the NCs because I wanted the middle section's combos to be defined by each vocal line. I'm thinking of ways to make the awkwards parts that you pointed out (especially 01:15:509 (7,8,1,2) ) flow better, though at the moment I'm out of ideas orz

M4M~

[General]

Seems like you have some unused SB files. sb\nazrinufo.png and sb\ufo.png Please remove them.
Done!

[Lunatic]

Your start needs some new arrangements imo!
00:06:009 (6) - http://puu.sh/4gp1f.jpg ? Because it would fit perfectly your pattern before, like it currently is it breaks it totally imo
00:08:009 (10,11,12) - http://puu.sh/4gp4k.jpg
00:10:010 (13) - and http://puu.sh/4gp57.jpg If you apply those, they would flow perfectly, and 13 leads in the next circle even better.
00:12:509 (9) - TOTALLY up to you, but this stream totally kicked me off, because stopping after it is quite difficult - my solution would be that you replace the last the circles of the stream with a slider. But again, this is not necessary.
00:21:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Well overall it looks fine, but still, it is a bit boring. What about varying the DS between them? Would be the best solution for it currently.
These are good suggestions. Changed all above!

00:34:509 (3) - You can hear a really strong beat 00:34:676 - here. If you can't click it, it's kinda wasted, so a reversed slider isn't really recommendable here. Replace with something different o:
That makes sense, but I really like the repeat motion here. I guess the issue is that the SV is low enough that the player can just hold their position, without ever having to snap their cursor upwards at the cymbal crash, which was the intended flow here. As an experiment I've broken up the repeat slider so that it's a hitcircle and a 1/2 beat slider instead, with the same flow as the original repeat slider. This might be a bit confusing to play through but I'm going to try this and see what others have to say about it.

00:45:676 (5,7,9) - Nothing against the placing or anything like this, but slidershapes like this don't really look good imo. What about something more simple?
I don't want these sliders to be straight, but I don't want them to be too curved either. This was the best compromise I could come up with.

00:51:176 (6) - What about a blanket here? Most of the time you're ignoring them, it's fine, but one here would actually fit quite well. http://puu.sh/4gpiW.jpg
For consistency reasons in slider curvature I don't want to change this.

00:59:343 (4) - Her voice is quite strong here, a NC would emphasize this well.
That makes sense, but I think I want to keep the indicator lines here, and also the longer combo is more consistent with this 00:55:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) . I'll add this to the proposed changes list, though.

01:05:343 - LOL nice SB part here!
:3c

01:11:343 (4,5,1) - Uhm compare the gap between 01:11:343 (4,5) - once, and then between 01:11:676 (5,1) - . It would be nice if you could move 01:11:676 (5) - some grids up to fix it. (There are actually a lot of these things , please go over your map once and try to fix them >w<)
The distance snappings here are too different for me to be able to fix with a slight adjustment.

The diff is really enjoyable to play, but there are a lot of not so polished DS things, which are most nazi. Apart from this, it has a nice, consistent rhythm, and hitsounding is cool too!

[Normal]

00:19:676 (2) - Unreasonable jump in normal, you should remove thiis. 1.52 is way too high!
Fixed.

00:29:343 (1) - Well this one is actually reasonable .. but 1.79 :/ Well, if you think it's fine, leave it.
I left it orz

00:30:676 (3) - 1.88? This is a normal. Please remove all kind of these jumps, it's really not recommendable!
Fixed.

00:53:009 (1) - ^ Just snap it properly.
I don't think there's a noticeable difference in play between this and 0.90x, and this is better for symmetry so I'm going to leave it.

01:18:343 (1) - Unnecessary NC, it just goes with the combo before.
This is for consistency with the rest of the NCs in this section.

01:37:343 (3) - CTRL + G to fix the jump
nopls;_;

The diff is nice, but the jumps.. since this should be your lowest diff, and with so many jumps, it's still fairly high. Please try to remove them!

Good mapset still, good luck, hope i could help you a bit.
Thank you!

*Downloads beatmap expecting just a plain normal beatmap* Mindblown.
Thanks for happiness. This is mostly going to be a Nazi mod because... no real problems.
Also... that SB.... that SB... is sex. Thanks for creating an SB that I don't have to completely dim the bg to play map.
Haha, actually I sort of wanted the effects to look so ridiculously flashy at the kiai that the player'd be forced to dim the map...
Glad you enjoyed it though!

Oh... the mod? Oh yeah heh.

Lunatic is realy fun. Except for those overused patterns.

[Lunatic]

00:21:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - after the first pattern this gets a little boring don't you think? Maybe more circles? Triangle jumps, stars i don't know. Just a nice pattern.
I want to keep this particular pattern because it represents the repetitive off-beat synth hits in this section.

00:30:676 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^You could do so much more with this.
This one I also want to keep because I like how this flows.

00:33:509 (2,3,4) - should be a stack on 3.
I think the spacing here makes this not much of an issue to read, and stacking everything on (3) would make the gaps to (1) and (5) somewhat large.

00:41:843 (3,5) - I don't really like how this lines up. Maybe 5 should be by itself angle on the right side with it's end pointing to the next circle?
I like the way this flows currently.

00:45:676 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - these patterns get old after awhile. Add variation don't ruin the feeling of the rest of the map.
00:47:176 (1,3) - this doesn't look nice :c
00:48:343 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - reusing patterns on lunatics/insanes are not fun :c
00:52:009 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - now doing these patterns here is kind of unacceptable since I can already here from the song so much you could do with it. Don't get lazy. Especialy on a build up.
All of the above are things that I agree with you on, but will require extensive remapping. I can't fix this immediately, but will work on it.

01:14:009 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - these could be wavy circles. Sliders are nice but they doint work for everything. Add some variation use more circles. D:< Especially this part of the song.
I want to keep the sliders for the up-down flow here. What do you mean by wavy circles?

01:36:676 (5) - curve this slider. I sense laziness.
01:47:009 (3) - curve slider and lower it.
01:47:343 (5) - curve slider to the right
These sliders are intentionally straight; I wanted to contrast them with the curvatures of the streams.

01:35:343 (5) - can you just do an SV change? this doesn't look good at all
01:46:009 (6) - SV change pls.
NOTE: if you do do SV changes, to make it readable without changing ccombo colours you can add two red nodes at the start of the slider to make the player move sharp for a bit where it's realizable. I can help you with readability if you pm me ingame. Take pictures.
I like the vibratory effect from crumpling these sliders.

01:50:509 (4) - put this directly over the curve of the slider.
Doing this would add another cusp to the flow between these three notes. Currently the flow is up, then curved down and to the right; by moving (4) directly above the curve of (1), the flow would be up, down and left, then right. I want to avoid this motion here.

Normal is basically perf.

[Normal]

00:30:676 (3) - this type of overlapping on normal no go. do this: http://grab.by/pSM8
01:36:676 (2) - angle this off a bit of the slider end about half, so it's actually visible to new players that thats not where to start.
o i don't know what else to say about normal... o
Fixed above!

Ok. Thanks for showing me this. Forum pm me back for a recheck anytime and ingame pm me whenever you need something.
Make sure to respond to this mod or: Blacklist. Good luck.
Thank you!

Hello, sorry for dealy

[General]

I think this mapset must have Easy diff
I talked with a BAT about this and they said that the Normal was fine, and that an Easy was not necessary.

[Normal]

00:29:009 (4,1) - this jump is too big for normal
01:08:676 (1) - ^
01:11:009 (3,4,5) - ^ alright all kiai filled with this kind of jumps and you know that this is easiest diff and such approach makes this mapset unplayable for newbies. orz Easy diff may resolve this issues too.
Personally I don't think these jumps are an issue, and I'd really like to keep them because I think they make play less monotonous, and more fun. I also think that the jumps that I have fit the music.

00:30:676 (3,4) - also stacking circles under sliders maybe confusing
Fixed!

00:36:009 (4,5) - strange spacing and placement, maybe blanket here? something like http://puu.sh/4h1iS.jpg
collapsed text
Fixed, and thanks a lot for including the .osu script!

01:24:676 (1,2,3) - and this one pattern pattern is way confusing for normal players, consider to unstack
I really like how this flows, but I can see your point. I'll consider changes.

[Lunatic]
00:23:509 (8) - this SV, maybe leave this as 1.2
Slider leniency here is huge and you really only have to be halfway up the slider to land this one.

01:06:676 (1) - such high SV not match any emphasis in music, consider to reduce
This is just something that I really don't want to change, because I like how the slider interacts with the musical elements at this point.

other of this 2 thing, diff looks clear

Hard and Lunatic really well-made but you need to decide what to do with your [Normal] because it's quite hard to be easiest diff. :\

Good Luck!
Thank you!

Ello! :3 Random mod!


Hope this helps! >~<
It did, thank you!

[Lunatic]

Increase the hp drain by +1?
Okay, drain +1.

00:56:676 (1) - this part (before the spinner) is kinda lack of hitsounds, maybe consider add some whistles?
I added some whistles at the start of some of the patterns.

[Hard]

00:43:759 (1) - this new combo seems weird, I suggest to remove it
01:17:843 (2) - try to stack this one perfectly？
Fixed both above with apaffy's approval.

[Normal]

01:05:343 (1) - note maybe too soon and too far away from the middle of the spin after the spinner for a diff played by new players, maybe move it nearer the middle of the screen?
I decreased the length of the spinner; hopefully this solves the problem!

nice storyboard :3
Thank you!

Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

01:01:676 ~ 01:03:843 - Maybe it's me, but imo the hitsounds don't fit the drum well ? ( eg 01:02:009 doesn't seem to have k sound ? ) You can consider this, but it depends if you want to keep the consistent drum-only style.

01:16:176 (2) - Blue note ? ( Although this is following vocal rather than drum, the feeling of 01:16:843 (2,1) tells me that this small section can be more based on vocal. Your choice though )

01:27:343 (1,1,1,1) - O O O O ? ( Considering the finishes in kiai tend to follow vocal more, I think using KDDK can keep this consistent style better )

Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

01:27:343 (1,1,1,1) - O O O O ? ( Basically same as oni )

01:05:343 (1,2,3,4) - O O O O ( imo using DDKK can show the different pitch variations better than only K )
01:37:343 (1,1,2,2) - O O O O ? ( The reverse of DDKK. imo this can keep your style consistent and follow the pitch of instrument better at the same time. Also contrasts with the above suggestion. Optional though )

01:48:676 (1~5) - ooooo ? ( It has an even higher pitch than 01:48:509 (1) and so I think using k instead of d fits better. Also fits the pitch-oriented finishes after this 1/4 )

[General]
I'm not sure the circle of artists is used as the artist in osu!. Often times it's just the singer or arranger (see Alstromeria Records beatmaps)
It's hard to say, you should ask around.
Changed artist to vocalist (3L) and adjusted tags accordingly. The only ranked Arte Refact map is Cake Hime * Masaruumi & JUMA - Eiya no Parade, which lists the artist as the vocalists, so I'll do the same for consistency.

[Normal]
The star rating is quite high (3.24), it's hard to rank maps with a high star lower difficulkty. Try toi get it as close to 3 as possible or under 3.
Spacing overall is really weird, stuff like 01:09:343 (2,3,4) - should theoretically have similar spacing on a Normal diff. This is especially an issue in places like 01:48:009 (4,5) - .
I removed every jump in the map and adjusted spacing to be consistent to ~0.90x, with ~1.20x used in the Kiai section. After applying spacing changes, the star difficulty is now 3.18, which is hopefully better!

00:54:509 (3) - This slider moves over itself, so it is burai and unrankable. The slider must not go over itself like that!
Fixed; slider doesn't move over itself anymore.

[apaffy's Hard]
00:20:009 (1,2) - This is a nasty antijump, this will mess up a lot of players because of how close 1 and 2 are.
Fixed by moving (1) so that its end stacks on (2), and applied a 30 degree CCW rotation to improve flow from the previous note.

01:06:343 (1) - Remove new combo, this just messes up HP drain.
01:07:009 (1) - Same as above
01:36:009 (1,1,1,1) - Same as above, just lessen the amount here
01:41:343 (1,1,1,1) - Lessen the amount of new combos please X_X, it's pretty but it does mess with gameplay.
Fixed all above.

[Lunatic]
00:23:509 (8) - This slider moves over itself, so it is burai and unrankable. The slider must not go over itself like that!
Fixed

00:56:676 (1,2,3) - This is a very strange rhythm and I recommend avoiding it. Putting these three circles into a repeat slider would fix the issue.\
00:58:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same with these. Two repeat sliders would be awesome here.
This was something that you mentioned a while back, but after experimenting a bit with repeat sliders I couldn't find an arrangement that I liked. I don't think these are too much of an issue; the spacing is relatively exaggerated which makes it somewhat easier to read, and even if do end up causing a player trouble during their first run through the map, it's not a problem that would persist throughout multiple playthroughs.

01:06:676 (1) - This slider moves over itself, so it is burai and unrankable. The slider must not go over itself like that! Dang this one's crazy
Fixed!

01:35:343 (10) - This slider moves slower than 0.5x slider speed because of its compression. Compressing sliders like this is a gray area, but it's usually okay as long as it isn't slower than the slowest achievable slider speed. This one is slower, so keeping it is a risky thing to do.
01:46:009 (6) - Same as the above.
Fixed both above. I kept the compression, but decompressed them enough so that they aren't slower than a 0.50x slider of the same length.

01:48:009 (1) - This slider changes its speed mid-slide. These are extremely risky to use and even more of a gray area than the compressed sliders.
This was also something we talked about a while ago in chat. You mentioned that this was debatable, but I want to keep this if possible because I like how it fits the instrumentation. If a BAT tells me that it's definitely unrankable though, I'll remove it.

01:50:676 (1) - Remove this slider, there's no need for it
The last few bass notes in the song fall on the ends of this slider. I like how this closes out the map, so I want to keep it.

11t wrote:
Hi, thanks for your reply!

As for the Lunatic, I'd still like to keep my current new comboing pattern. The 13 combo in the beginning definitely lasts for more than two measures, but I don't think this is an issue because the arrangement is slow and drastically easier in comparison to the rest of the map.

None of the other combos exceed two measures in length, and I still believe that the current new combos match the phrasing of the music better than a pattern of new combos based solely on downbeats.

I still haven't had a chance to look back at the map, but from what I remember there were a lot of short 3 note combos that seems to be there more to make a pattern more readable rather than fitting the phrase of the song. Anyway, we both have our take on it - just as long as you understand where I'm coming from, it's fine.

I actually thought that breaking the previous feel of my map with these slowdowns would add contrast to the gameplay, and help to emphasize these particular points. As long as it was a readable slowdown, I felt that it in the end it would have a positive contribution to the map. Of course I didn't want to overuse this though, so I only chose to emphasize the phrasings that occurred right before the streams at the end of these sections. Overall I think that these slowdowns diversify the gameplay, are easily readable, and fit the music both visually (with the vibration effect) and mechanically, and these are very strong reasons for me to keep them.

Since this has gone through multiple BATs (and a rank!) with a few of them telling me that they enjoyed the scrunching, I guess it's not unreasonable for me to be resistant to changes here. But at the same time I also understand that an unrankable issue in this map has also gone through multiple BATs (and a rank...), and inconsistency as you mentioned is a significant downside to using these slowdowns. In the end though, I think that sometimes it's viable to sacrifice consistency to bring unique elements into your map, as long as those elements are readable, fit the music, and don't completely catch players by surprise. This is one of those cases where I think this works.

I think the biggest part for me is that the slowdown was simply too drastic. It felt out of place and felt more like a bad design decision rather than something special. If you did a slowdown that wasn't as extreme, you would still retain this same effect without breaking the flow as badly.

I'll try to catch you in game so we can talk about this a bit and sort it out quicker, but if not, please PM me and let me know what you think about these things!

Overtime pay is just too tempting, haha. Hopefully I can get some time in Friday evening, but no guarantees, though I think we've mostly gotten our points out here. I'll get that screenshot to you when I can.


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11t
about 36 hours ago
Hi, thanks for your reply!

Garven wrote:
The new combo concerns mostly have to do with the HP Drain mechanic. If you have too many too frequently, you artificially gain too much HP and 'break' that aspect of the challenge. Too few, and it becomes unfair in the difficulty to recover from a mistake. Generally comboing should be used to reflect the phrasing in the music as well, so usually setting them to change every two measures or so (tall white ticks) fits most modern songs.

This makes sense; I'll fix the new comboing in the Normal.

As for the Lunatic, I'd still like to keep my current new comboing pattern. The 13 combo in the beginning definitely lasts for more than two measures, but I don't think this is an issue because the arrangement is slow and drastically easier in comparison to the rest of the map.

None of the other combos exceed two measures in length, and I still believe that the current new combos match the phrasing of the music better than a pattern of new combos based solely on downbeats.

Garven wrote:
The storyboard might be due to my resolution since I'm running at 16:10. Something to consider in your SB design, perhaps. If I recall, it was cutting off about about "Onosakihi" I'll get a screenshot when I can.

A screenshot would be great, thanks!

Garven wrote:
The slowdown sliders... well, for me it was more an issue about the pacing of the cursor. There were many similar phrasings throughout the melody that continued the normal pace of the rest of your mapping, but when those slowdown instances came about the drastic slowdown just breaks the feel of your map up to that point. I can provide a more specific response later if this doesn't make sense.

I actually thought that breaking the previous feel of my map with these slowdowns would add contrast to the gameplay, and help to emphasize these particular points. As long as it was a readable slowdown, I felt that it in the end it would have a positive contribution to the map. Of course I didn't want to overuse this though, so I only chose to emphasize the phrasings that occurred right before the streams at the end of these sections. Overall I think that these slowdowns diversify the gameplay, are easily readable, and fit the music both visually (with the vibration effect) and mechanically, and these are very strong reasons for me to keep them.

Since this has gone through multiple BATs (and a rank!) with a few of them telling me that they enjoyed the scrunching, I guess it's not unreasonable for me to be resistant to changes here. But at the same time I also understand that an unrankable issue in this map has also gone through multiple BATs (and a rank...), and inconsistency as you mentioned is a significant downside to using these slowdowns. In the end though, I think that sometimes it's viable to sacrifice consistency to bring unique elements into your map, as long as those elements are readable, fit the music, and don't completely catch players by surprise. This is one of those cases where I think this works.

I'll try to catch you in game so we can talk about this a bit and sort it out quicker, but if not, please PM me and let me know what you think about these things!
Garven
about 39 hours ago
The quick and dirty reply because I'm throwing this up between overtime shifts:

The new combo concerns mostly have to do with the HP Drain mechanic. If you have too many too frequently, you artificially gain too much HP and 'break' that aspect of the challenge. Too few, and it becomes unfair in the difficulty to recover from a mistake. Generally comboing should be used to reflect the phrasing in the music as well, so usually setting them to change every two measures or so (tall white ticks) fits most modern songs.

The storyboard might be due to my resolution since I'm running at 16:10. Something to consider in your SB design, perhaps. If I recall, it was cutting off about about "Onosakihi" I'll get a screenshot when I can.

The slowdown sliders... well, for me it was more an issue about the pacing of the cursor. There were many similar phrasings throughout the melody that continued the normal pace of the rest of your mapping, but when those slowdown instances came about the drastic slowdown just breaks the feel of your map up to that point. I can provide a more specific response later if this doesn't make sense.
11t
about 43 hours ago
Hi, I couldn't catch you in game, but I have a few questions about my map which was recently unranked.

[Normal]
Garven wrote:
01:06:676 (1,1,1) - Please don't new combo spam.
01:12:009 (1,1,1) - ^
01:17:343 (1,1,1) -
01:22:676 (1,1,1) -

If this is a strictly unrankable issue I'll change it, but if not I'd like to keep these new combos if possible for a few reasons. Having a new combo on each of these large sliders gives this section more impact. The vocal melodies at these sliders are both symmetric yet distinct; that symmetry is captured by the symmetry of the sliders shapes, but I also wanted to preserve the sense of distinctness by splitting the combos. This might seem a bit contrived, but I also felt that having new combos in these particular areas added a more flavorful mix of color to the visual field. Removing them makes the kiai section seem more mundane. I don't see any particular gameplay concerns or issues with readability in this particular use of additional new combos.

If these reasons don't seem valid to you, or aren't enough to outweigh whatever downsides these new combos might bring to the map, I'll remove them.

[Taiko]
Garven wrote:
The storyboard image is scaled a little bit too high. It's cutting off Ono's name.

This looks fine to me in-game: http://puu.sh/4MfNT.png
I'm using 1366x768 resolution. Would this depend on the resolution?

[Insane]
Garven wrote:
What happened to your new combo progression from the Normal? It's all messed up in this difficulty. :<

Rather than follow downbeats for new combos, I chose to follow the vocal melody and placed new combos at the start of each new vocal phrase. For a high-paced difficulty like this, using this sort of new combo pattern makes more sense to me than adding new combos on downbeats which may be right in the middle of a vocal phrase, leading to what seems to me as an unnatural combo split.

Anyway, that's my reasoning for it. Let me know if I'm just totally off the mark, though.

Garven wrote:
00:10:010 (13) - You should just add a second grey combo so this doesn't get so high

Is this really necessary? I feel like a 13 combo isn't that large, and I like how keeping everything in a single combo reinforces the idea of monotoneity and uniformity that I was trying to convey in the intro here. Are there any gameplay issues with this? My knowledge of osu mechanics is pretty poor so if this actually has some sort of huge impact on score or playability, please let me know.

Garven wrote:
01:35:343 (1) - Eew what is that. This completely breaks your flow and any sort of pace you had established earlier.
01:46:009 (1) - ^ I guess these were the old scrunched slider spots, huh? From how you've used them, they were a bad idea from the start anyway if they slowed down to this degree.

Yes, these were two of the old scrunched slider spots ;_;
I was told that all scrunched sliders were unrankable, but after talking with other BATs apparently this isn't the case. Scrunched sliders are acceptable, just not for sliders that change speed midway, and as long as they don't move slower than a 0.50x slider.

I had scrunched sliders at these two places, and while they were more or less consistently scrunched there were pretty large bits of unscrunched slider at the ends so I guess that could have caused some issues.

Is something like this alright?
Image

I'd like to have scrunched sliders here if possible. I think that the vibration effect matches the timbre of the instrumentation, the increased slider width makes it easy to read, and the slower speed reflects the held note and the halted pace of the melody here. I don't think there are any gameplay issues with this, and no one ever had any trouble with my previous sliders during all of the testplays that I asked for, many from BATs. If scrunching isn't possible here, the next best thing I could think of was to simply reduce slider SV, though as you noticed that wasn't nearly as readable nor did it really match the music at all.

Anyway, if this isn't possible, do you have any particular suggestions for what I could here?

I fixed everything that I didn't mention here. Thanks a lot for taking a look at the map! I appreciate you taking the time to try and move this forward.

[Lunatic]
00:02:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - the combo seems too long. You should use 2 different gray colors and add some NCs and switch colors between them.
This really wasn't something I wanted to change because the combo is only 13 notes long, and the duration of the combo isn't an issue because the section is extremely easy to play in comparison to the rest of the map. I also felt that mapping the intro in a single combo helped to reinforce the idea of monotoneity that I was trying to convey, and that using another combo color, even if it's another gray, would compromise this.

Well, I changed it now anyway because everyone keeps bringing this up.

[Hard]
00:02:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - maybe same as Lunatic
Changed as above.

[Normal]
01:20:009 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - spacing inconsistency?
01:26:343 (2,3,4,1) - spacing inconsistency?
Fixed both by reworking sliders.