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Newbie #9 - Knock! Knock! Knock! (Game End)

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Lilac
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Lilac
...It's me, the Ratboy Genius. This is your somewhat crazy mod of Lilac speaking, Lily ain't gonna be talking for a while so I'm taking over this shing-ding of a Mafia game.

This game is for those who want to either try Mafia for the first time or want to get a better understanding/not have to rely on roles/prefer logic and scumhunting. Like how mafia should be actually played.

Story Time
Mafia, inherently, has been a game about lies and deceit. Mafia lying to an uninformed majority to greedily win themselves and town being equally greedy to get rid of those who are against them. This had made me reconsider whether playing this game was morally right for me, I took a lot of things personally and the game of Mafia was no exception. Countless nights I have staying up because I was close to being lynched just to try and selfishly save myself and not to mention the amount of thought and WIFOM I had to sift through, it was something that haunted me for ages but I still came back to it until I just could not be bothered anymore.

Now, I don't really care about people much anymore so this honestly doesn't really phase me.

Setup:
This is a Matrix6 setup, no one could change the setup in time and I personally hate the setup myself but I'm using it anyway. Look here for the setup. I honestly would have called it Matrix9 what with my math background. I'll choose either A B C 1 2 or 3 and you look at the corresponding row or column to see what the setup is. The page explains it to you very well.

Players:
  1. Sakura - Shot N4 - Vanilla Townie
  2. Jinxy - Shot N2 - Vanilla Townie
  3. CalignoBot*
  4. SenaSaki** - Fed to Marina D2 - Vanilla Townie
  5. Quotes kookookook* - Shot N1 - Town Cop
  6. Royston*
  7. rEdo - Turned into a black squash ball D1 - Mafia Goon
  8. Irreversible* - Lynched D3 - Vanilla Townie
  9. DakeDekaane*
* - prod
Bold - Confirmed
Underscore - Replaced

Important Game Events:

Day 1 Start
Votecount D1: 1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | Final Votecount
Quotes replaces kookookook
Day 2 Start
Votecount D2: 2.1
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Lilac
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Lilac
Rules:

General:
  1. Don't be retarded. Don't do anything retarded. Don't do anything that leads to being retarded. I'll decide what's retarded.
  2. You play to your win condition, anything against it and you're retarded.
  3. Don't copy your Role PM or anything that's quoted by me, do not also quote directly or screen capture any private conversations you have with people, only retarded people do that.
  4. Don't write crud that people don't understand, people are retarded cause they don't understand stuff but you're retarded for doing stuff that other people don't understand in the first place. Plus, people aren't going to believe you if you're retarded and saying stuff that people don't understand. This falls under not writing in English, writing in encrypted text or anything that's generally annoying to read.
  5. Do not edit or delete your posts, retarded people do that for retarded reasons.
  6. I'll change the rules when something crops up because I'm retarded and I'm also writing these rules from scratch from the basis of another.
Activity:
  1. Prods will be given out automatically after 24 hours or under user request after 36 hours depending on if I get lazy or have some busy stuff to do.
  2. People who have been prodded several times may be replaced without warning because they're lazy and other people don't like lazy people.
  3. I don't have to remind you guys to post content? Don't be lazy and just post to not get prodded, that's really lazy.
  4. If you're going away or not looking here for 36 hours, please do not be lazy and post here in bold saying that you've got lazy stuff to do.
Pregame:
  1. Confirm your PM.
  2. Starts at 8/9 to confirm.
  3. Mafia can talk pregame until D1 start.
Day:
  1. Deadlines are in a week, guys. I doubt I'll be giving extensions but if I do then well...
  2. You guys can also vote No Lynch if you want. Vote: No Lynch is how you do it but yeah...if you really want to well...
  3. Lynch is half + 1 players that are alive. I'll tell you how many it is every vote count so yeah...
  4. If majority isn't reached, there will be no lynch so you know...
  5. Vote by Vote: Player name here. and unvotes for me are necessary. If you don't unvote, then your vote will still stay the same so yeah... Do Unvote for me...
  6. You can totally make one "Bah!" post...that has no information because you know if you did give information away then yeah...
Night:
  1. Night will last 24 or 48 hours depending on if it's needed. By certain people, I think you know what people they will be.
  2. Actions can be submitted beforehand and you can keep changing. If you submit no action then that's exactly what you do. No action.
Other things:
  1. Don't analyse the flavour guys, This is a newbie game I hope you guys are aware of that. I might even be lazy have no flavour depending on the days.
  2. Bold anything that you have concerns with or PM if it's a more private issue.
  3. Do not break rule 3 of this section.
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Sakura
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Sakura
Not so ninja /in
pieguyn
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pieguyn
man I'm in a matrix6 already
I think I'll sit out this one for now, need time to do stuff
Jinxy
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Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Hello yes /in
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
/in
Sakura
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Sakura
Also it's called matrix6 because there's 6 possible choices, matrix9 is a different setup that includes diagonals.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
shouldn't it be matrix8 then? :P
Lilac
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Lilac
Yeah, I don't know what Sakura is thinking.
Sakura
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Sakura
idk, i didnt name it.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
/in Just because
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Damnit, Saki.

Rules are up now.
Knarf
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Joined August 2012
Knarf
/in
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
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scaring the hell outta me

and ugh getting used to a new metagame
Lilac
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Lilac
Meta is everywhere, feel free to look up all the games that have been played here.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
's a bit different, watching and actually playing.

and besides, I have this theory that meta bends to match me...
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
yes finally something that won't make my head explode

/in
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
sheesh, enough of mindfucks already
in~
Irreversible
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Irreversible
in :D
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Knock knock, may I come in?

/in
Jinxy
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Jinxy
oh god

pls no super-similar avatars :(
Quotes_old
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Joined May 2013
Quotes_old
/in

Hi???

EDIT: I'm late aren't I
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
Nah.
Lilac
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Lilac
Actually, Quotes is late...always.

I'll put him as a replacement. Give me a bit.

All roles have been sent, confirm like how you're supposed to.

Sample Vanilla Townie PM
You are a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities
During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
During the Night, you may sleep.

Win Condition
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name & alignment.
Lilac
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Lilac
8/9 confirmed.

With Day 1 and 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.



KNOCK KNOCK. IT'S ME, THE RATBOY GENIUS.

Votecount:

There are no votes being made at the current moment. VCs will be done every few pages or on user request.
rEdo
809 posts
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rEdo
Vote: Ratboy Genius

obvious scum
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
vote: Sakura

Serious, serious vote.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
vote: Irreversible

hasn't confirmed
Knarf
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Knarf
RV~
Vote: Royston
Sakura
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Sakura
Vote: kookookook
Last 2 people to confirm are always scum.
Knarf
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Knarf

Sakura wrote:

Vote: kookookook
Last 2 people to confirm are always scum.
Okay...
Amianki
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Amianki
Vote: DakeDekaane

Not random.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Vote: CalignoBot

Being serious.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
@Sakura: You're just saying this because you're scum yourself, aren't you? :c
Sakura
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Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

@Sakura: You're just saying this because you're scum yourself, aren't you? :c
No, scum get chat during pre-game, so they want to delay the start of the game as much as possible so they can talk and hence usually confirm last, which is why most mods usually start at 7/9 confirmed to prevent this.
Knarf
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Knarf
I thought there's a column in profile called 'last active'.
Very easy to determine if the person really wanted to delay.
rEdo
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rEdo
it's highly reliable on the timezone, though. I confirmed at 4 AM didn't even do it correctly due to no-sleep derp, while getting a role PM two hours beforehand, and I was like... fifth, or even sixth. I guess trying to hunt scum by looking whoever confirmed last isn't a good idea, it won't confirm anything o.o
Sakura
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Sakura
It's still something to go off instead of RVS, also there was a point in time where the only people that hadn't confirmed were kookookook and Irreversible.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
"I'm serious"
"No, I'm serious"
"No, I'm even more serious"

too obvious maybe
Sakura
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Sakura
Hi Saki, wanna 1v1 tunnel here too?
Amianki
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Amianki
Unvote: DakeDekaane
Vote: SenaSaki
Sakura
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Sakura

CalignoBot wrote:

Unvote: DakeDekaane
Vote: SenaSaki
I suppose you have a reason for this, or did you just go back to RVS.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
"extending RVS is a SCUMTELL!"
uh no 1v1 is bad

cool, Sakura's town
Amianki
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Amianki

Sakura wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Unvote: DakeDekaane
Vote: SenaSaki
I suppose you have a reason for this.
Yes.
Sakura
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Sakura
Would you share it?
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

SenaSaki wrote:

cool, Sakura's town
:roll:

Can you explain?
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
scum doesn't want a 1v1 ever
and i doubt scum sakura would buddy up to me

well now that i think about it it might be a fake townslip
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Sakura wrote:

No, scum get chat during pre-game.
Interesting generalization there. How do you know that this game has pre-game chat?
Sakura
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Sakura

Jinxy wrote:

Sakura wrote:

No, scum get chat during pre-game.
Interesting generalization there. How do you know that this game has pre-game chat?
If it's the same setup as the one in the wiki link that appeared, and is a newbie game, then it's very likely scum does not have daychat.

Or maybe im just assuming things due to playing this setup over 10 times.
Amianki
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Amianki

SenaSaki wrote:

scum doesn't want a 1v1 ever
Wrong. Scum don't want a 1v1 they most likely won't win.

SenaSaki wrote:

and i doubt scum sakura would buddy up to me

well now that i think about it it might be a fake townslip
Now you're just going into fake analysis territory.
Amianki
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Amianki
I've yet to see a single mafia game where mafia don't get pre-game chat. It's a very safe assumption.
Royston
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Royston
fun fact: the last person to post in a thread has a 2 in 9 chance of being mafia
Sakura
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Sakura

Royston wrote:

fun fact: the last person to post in a thread has a 2 in 9 chance of being mafia
Just the same chance of everyone else, try again
Knarf
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Knarf
Another fact: The last person to post in a thread has a 7 in 9 chance of being town-aligned.


What do you guys think the set-up is? I think it'll not be 1 or B as these set-ups are too boring.
Sakura
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Sakura
Man all the IIoA, it hurts.
Amianki
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Amianki
kookookook is scum too.
Sakura
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Sakura

CalignoBot wrote:

kookookook is scum too.
Then vote him with me.
Knarf
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Knarf

Sakura wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

kookookook is scum too.
Then vote him with me.
This. Sakura must be scum.
Sakura
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Sakura
Within 1 post you have acertained

IIoA.
Inside Information.
Rolefishing.

You must be new at this if can't see how this all points towards you being scum.
Knarf
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Knarf
Trying to persuade someone to vote other which has a vote already in D1 is a mafia behaviour.
Only mafia will try to end the day as soon as possible.
Sakura
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Sakura

kookookook wrote:

Trying to persuade someone to vote other which has a vote already in D1 is a mafia behaviour.
Only mafia will try to end the day as soon as possible.
Wagons give information, putting votes everywhere without reason doesn't.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
@kookookook: why do you want to know about the setup?
Knarf
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Knarf
It's the reaction test that I'd like to see how Sakura reacted.
His reaction was obviously scum.
Sakura
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Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

@kookookook: why do you want to know about the setup?
Better question, what's the motivation behind trying to speculate about the setup.
Sakura
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Sakura
If it was really a Reaction Test then pray tell what were you looking for as a "Townie reaction"
Knarf
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Knarf

Sakura wrote:

If it was really a Reaction Test then pray tell what were you looking for as a "Townie reaction"
Your first post, but not the second.
Sakura
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Sakura
So saying you're scum for IIoA was townie but asking CalignoBot for voting you for the same reason is scummy?
Knarf
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Knarf
Asking CalignoBot to vote. ppl will vote in their posts if they think it's necessary. Rushing is never a good way, especially in the start of a day.
Sakura
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Sakura
No reply huh? Well not like I was expecting you to reply so quick but I was expecting something before going to sleep.

At least now there's enough information to go around and start scumhunting, and I'm gonna be mad if I see people doing more RVS stuff (I'm looking at you Saki... just kidding)
Sakura
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Sakura
Oh nvm, you actually replied while i was typing.
Sakura
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Sakura

kookookook wrote:

Asking CalignoBot to vote. ppl will vote in their posts if they think it's necessary. Rushing is never a good way, especially in the start of a day.
I disagree. Rushing is a good way to start getting reads from people out of reactions and forming stances based on the current wagons, which gives scum less places to hide.

Btw, reaction tests are only reaction tests when they catch people by surprise, all your "Reaction test" did was make you look more scummy, if you're somehow town i suggest you change your way of approaching things because you arent doing very well.
Sakura
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Sakura
In either case, gotta head to bed, work tomorrow, hope to see more activity in this thread.
Knarf
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Knarf
Good night then. Actually I would like to reply...
DakeDekaane
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So this was a "reaction test" directed to Sakura? really?
Maybe I should Vote: kookookook.
Knarf
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Knarf

DakeDekaane wrote:

So this was a "reaction test" directed to Sakura? really?
Maybe I should Vote: kookookook.
Yes. 5 minutes right after his post.
Amianki
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Amianki
Hm. Interesting.

I'll keep my vote on Saki. Don't make the thread implode while I sleep.
Lilac
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Lilac


Votecount 1.1:

Sakura (1) - SenaSaki
Irreversible (1) - Royston
Royston (1) - kookookook
kookookook (1) - Sakura
CalignoBot (1) - DakeDekaane
SenaSaki (1) - CalignoBot

You guys are terrible, some of you didn't even read the rules properly. Ratboy Genius will knock at your door and you'll pay for your sins. Face the wrath of Little King John.
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