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ZZT the Fifth
Whaddabout me?
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awp

ZZT the Fifth wrote:

Whaddabout me?
ZZT must be included in the storyline somewhere; he is a reknowned member of the community imo

I'm 100% positive I'll be able to integrate ZZT's legacy into osu!rpg but where specifically is currently up in the air.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
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Duoprism
There's no real chain of command here so I think it's relatively safe for you to come up with something. Primary problem is trying to keep a good plot hidden until we play it while still explaining enough to give us an idea on what you're doing.
Topic Starter
awp
Well the premise as well as a few plot points (twists?) are already out and about made public, so the general idea is there. It's still very easy to add a lot of details into the story to keep the player guessing/anticipating and keep the premise workable. Private IRC channels might be a good place for those interested in writing to collaborate...but so far I think Agent and I are the only people really interested in the core writing? So simply using PMs would be fine. I think it'd be nice to have a sort of "Supervisor" to bounce ideas off of, Sinistro.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Wee! I might be a writer!
Anyway, it's annoying, because I got an email with the KOC map, and I was gonna see if my mac could put it on upppy, then upppy failed.
It wouldn't let me go on.
Anyway, I don't have much else to suggest.
Can't think of anything, but I'll have something.
Topic Starter
awp
James pointed out that we need to add AMANTHES THE INVINCIBLE. For those of you unfamiliar with this character, there's a detailed irc log posted in the lol@irc thread. Not sure where, but it was shortly after the new public release that introduced Bancho.

A servant of one of the major enemies that is, for all intents and purposes, invincible.
Sinistro
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James
And our evil (good at that time) Double HarmoniZe Shock was there~

Should I start summarizing all these 4 pages (for characters first) Or I just let it coming first.

And also I suggest to have those other players (newbies, high ranking players that doesnt bother talking, people who register for the sake of getting songs, etc.) to be a NPC for towns if Osu! RPG have any. This includes random people, npc sellers etc.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Amanthes the invincible should be a bonus boss!
It takes a Double HarmoniZe Shock from awp and James to defeat it, but both must use the attack in the same turn!
Topic Starter
awp
Yeah. Considerably noteworthy people will play an integral or cameo role, but many others can be the names of things like monsters, towns and equipment I figure.

Though I see a lot of people saying "I'd have ____________ for an attack!", something like 75% of the population probably won't have "attacks". This isn't Chrono Cross; there'd be like 3 main characters and x guest characters.

Also James, yes - the Double HarmoniZe Shock thing would work because awp kind of flip-flops allegiances and James is doing his own thing in the story, so there's no reason they can't team up at some point.

also @ Agent, I have an idea of how AMANTHES THE INVINCIBLE is taken down, but it's spoilers.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
I'm cool with not knowing because of spoilers, but I might need to know, because I'm a pending writer.
I love reminding people of that.
Anyway, you could probably take a lot of battles from IRC, but I want some really original battles so osuers won't know, saying that, I would like a lot of "I remember that!" moments, cause those rock.
James
Doubt Amanthes can be killed with a Double HarmoniZe Shock though...
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Double HarmoniZe Shock could be the last attack then?
Like, when Amanthes is down to a certain amount of HP, awp/James can only use Double HarmoniZe Shock. And the attack animation would have to be really cool, like, Both of them point their fingers at Amanthes and yell "DOUBLE HARMONIZE SHOCK!" And like, all the beats and such come crashing towards him and, boom.
How 'bout it?
Topic Starter
awp
Well, what I was thinking was AMANTHES THE INVINCIBLE is a mindless servant under the command of ?????? - when you fight him, it's basically an endurance challenge as he won't die. Since he's invincible. This happens either two or three times in the game, but after the last time it happens, ??????? decides to further illustrate the futility of your efforts by killing AMANTHES him/herself with a single blow. And then you're like "oh fuck".
Agent BA8 Rookbie
So basically ???? destroys Amanthes with that attack?
Topic Starter
awp
Not with Double HarmoniZe Shock, that one's ours. Just an attack. Nothing fancy, even.
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Neo@lex
wait, so ??????=31?????

Also, I'm trying to learn to code in Ren'py, which is an engine for dating-sim style games. When I get better, I might have a go at doing an Osu! one.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
No, ????=Whoever it is
I think.
But wait, osu dating sim?
No offense, but I think I'll pass on being in that.

Neo@lex

Agent BA8 Rookbie wrote:

No, ????=Whoever it is
I think.
But wait, osu dating sim?
No offense, but I think I'll pass on being in that.
It's for the lulz.

"whoever it is" could still be ??g?b?.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Got a point there,
but Gabe is gonna be one of the antagonists, so I don't think he would be in the party.
And about the lulz,
I don't mind what you do.
Just don't put me in, unless I'm a stud.
Slain087
Well, if you need NPCs, can I be a traveling merchant?
James
@slain
sounds good.


and ?????? is still no one.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Ah.
And slain,
How about talking like this:
"'ello Strangah, what are ya sellin'?"
A cookie for anyone who can guess that reference.
Two cookies if slain guesses it,
and ten cookies if slain says yes.
Topic Starter
awp

Agent BA8 Rookbie wrote:

"'ello Strangah, what are ya sellin'?"
Honestly who the fuck doesn't know what that's from? It was a huge success, Game of the Year, and it's on 4 platforms. I'll buy it at a high price.

Also, I used "??????" for the reasons James stated.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Cookie for awp, because I get where he's going.
Yeah, but I said, ???? is whoever it is,
so technically that's right.
Anyway...
I can't think of anything.
Loginer

Agent BA8 Rookbie wrote:

"'ello Strangah, what are ya sellin'?"
I used to kill that guy all the time for lulz. Him and Ashley. >:3
wiicademan
I wanna be the guy that teaches you how to fight and you never see him again except for the very beginning.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
I think that job belongs to Sinistro.
Loginer: I understand Ashley, she's annoying, but the Merchant is awesome!
Topic Starter
awp
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Agent BA8 Rookbie
Oh.
I thought Sinistro said he was the tutorial person.
Topic Starter
awp
Yeah I think that's one of his duties.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
So yeah.
Seat's filled.
We have a lot of recurring bosses.
Maybe there should be a main one, who's a bit like Mid-Boss? You know, arrogant, stupid, wimpy(Yet still kicks your arse in later stages) and thinks of the main character/s as his/her "Rival".
Slain087

awp wrote:

Agent BA8 Rookbie wrote:

"'ello Strangah, what are ya sellin'?"
Honestly who the fuck doesn't know what that's from? It was a huge success, Game of the Year, and it's on 4 platforms. I'll buy it at a high price.
*Meekly raises hand* ...I don't keep up with games much.

I was going to go for speaking pidgin, myself, but I'll keep that in mind.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
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Topic Starter
awp

Agent BA8 Rookbie wrote:

Maybe there should be a main one, who's a bit like Mid-Boss? You know, arrogant, stupid, wimpy(Yet still kicks your arse in later stages) and thinks of the main character/s as his/her "Rival".
That's kind of awp's role. He is part of Saturos' army but thinks of himself as a "special case", in that he's an equal, can't be bossed around etc. From awp's perspective, he and the rest of Saturos' army, including Saturos himself, are all in a race to put an end to the heroes, though his motives, - both direct and alterior - are probably going to be subject to ambiguity and also change from time to time.

Running with this idea, awp could join the main party near the end with the following argument: "If I'm going to win this race, I might as well help them (the heroes) out and knock off my competition - we have the same enemies."
Agent BA8 Rookbie
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James
I read the whole thread and I've noticed I don't have a role yet.
I think I would be the one of the starting imbalanced, badass characters then suddenly got infected by the virus (gabe?) somewhere in the part of the story. Then obviously leaves the party to stop the main characters (recurring boss too, since I sometimes like to join other people too) then afterwards virus got removed (after getting owned for a few times + blablabla) but decides not to return to the party but to be alone blablabla and I won't finish the role.
Topic Starter
awp
dood James you're totally this badass mercenary-ish character that pretty much has no loyalties to anybody. So your idea would work with it.

James could discover he's been infected, but not say anything about it to anyone else and bugger off on his own as a result to try and stop it by himself.
Slain087

Slain, the Traveling Merchant wrote:

Eh, what you like? I get choke stuff here! Ah, come on, no be like that! I got da kine here, just for you!
Or

Slain, the Traveling Merchant wrote:

Ello Strangah, what are ya sellin'? Anythin' from weapons to artifacts, I have them all! Of course, I can't be sellin' all of this for free, if you know what I mean, eh?
Which one seems to fit a merchant better? Or something else?
James
First one is better.
Second one is like you're ripping off the merchant from RE4.
Slain087

James wrote:

First one is better.
Second one is like you're ripping off the merchant from RE4.
...That was kind of the idea for the second one, James.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Yeah.
This isn't official or anything, it's just a bit of fun. So we won't get sued for nicking other people's stuff.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Sorry for the double post, just had an idea.
Catchphrases anyone?
Come on, you know catchphrases would be awesome.
But, there's another reason I posted.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Attacks:
Knights of Cydonia - Muse
Here it Goes Again - OK Go
Living Colour - Cult of Personality
Vic
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Duoprism
Skills eh?

Reikin's Skillset:
MAX! - A limit break level attack that charges up based on how long you can play MAX 3000. Exponentially increased damage from 3 to 3000, displayed as '3!', '30!', 'MAX 300!', 'MAX 3000!'.
Sagisu 72 - A special skill that can be learned once buying EiJi's skillbook. Gives you perfect accuracy for a temporary time.
A, AA, AAA, AAAA?! - ...Not sure lol.
Vic
Gravity and Solar Beam are parts of Summon Vic skill, obtained thru Solar Stone. Gravity is slider challenge (sumthing like Psychokinesis pins in TWEWY), and Solar Beam... Well... Notestreams plz.
James
Sinistro is an ancient wise man and I believe the adviser to Kharl.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
OK, what happens when we have more than four maps?
Topic Starter
awp
why does everyone think they have a skillset

furthermore why does everyone think their skills are their own beatmaps? one of burai's attacks is Shotgun Symphony, which happens to be my beatmap, so uhhhhh...

=x

Is Saturos defenseless? He got no beatmaps.

Let's not approach this the wrong way D=
Agent BA8 Rookbie
I assumed the attacks were beatmaps.
Maybe if a character hasn't made beatmaps, they could have beatmaps that they're number 1 for.
Topic Starter
awp
lol Saturos
Saturos
Obviously I'd just punch the shit out of things. Or throw mice.
Topic Starter
awp
Use the Legendary Index Finger to poke foes to submission
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Hilarious.
He should do that in the real game.
James
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Agent BA8 Rookbie
I'm one of the guests!
I'm important, cause I pop out of nowhere and help.
But I think some people need a skill list, because it would be helpful. But by the time this gets made, everyone will probably have made more maps, and aced more songs, so it'll probably be different.
Loginer
I'm bored. That means I must make something. Something lulzy. Something pointless. Something like battle sprites for this game. I say 64*64 as for the resolution, with as many colors as possible, and animations for everything. :3
Edit: Also, this would pwn on the DS. What do you guys think, PC or DS?
RemmyX25

Loginer wrote:

I'm bored. That means I must make something. Something lulzy. Something pointless. Something like battle sprites for this game. I say 64*64 as for the resolution, with as many colors as possible, and animations for everything. :3
Edit: Also, this would pwn on the DS. What do you guys think, PC or DS?
DS if you can do it. dude, that'd be pure epicness if you pull it off.
Loginer

RemmyX25 wrote:

Loginer wrote:

I'm bored. That means I must make something. Something lulzy. Something pointless. Something like battle sprites for this game. I say 64*64 as for the resolution, with as many colors as possible, and animations for everything. :3
Edit: Also, this would pwn on the DS. What do you guys think, PC or DS?
DS if you can do it. dude, that'd be pure epicness if you pull it off.
Did I say DS? Hell, did I say RPG? RPG's are for pussies! No one likes them. PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME DO THIS!! ;___;
...Who am I kidding, I don't have anything else to do. <.<
/me downloads the thing

Screw this, that program is impossible to use. Also, it makes adventure games, and crappy ones at that. You can't even export the game as a .nds. <.<
Slain087
We need to hold auditions for NPCs - those who just wander around the towns. No attacks, no abilities, just someone to talk to during the game for pointless advice. Anyone interested?
Loginer

Slain087 wrote:

We need to hold auditions for NPCs - those who just wander around the towns. No attacks, no abilities, just someone to talk to during the game for pointless advice. Anyone interested?
NPC's don't have to be actual members. :/
LuigiHann

Loginer wrote:

Slain087 wrote:

We need to hold auditions for NPCs - those who just wander around the towns. No attacks, no abilities, just someone to talk to during the game for pointless advice. Anyone interested?
NPC's don't have to be actual members. :/
Yeah but there are enough actual members that you could easily name all the npc's after them.
Topic Starter
awp
If you make it for the DS, don't use someone else's shitty engine imo

But the DS is effectively alienating a majority of the osu! community, simply because they don't have flash cards (poor Sinistro ;___;) plus a lot of the DS hardware coding would be a bitch. PC imo
RemmyX25

awp wrote:

But the DS is effectively alienating a majority of the osu! community, simply because they don't have flash cards (poor Sinistro ;___;)
*meekly raises hand*
Agent BA8 Rookbie
OK, got a complaint Loginer.
The instructions for that DS thing are in another language.
Anyway,
We need skins. Maybe skins could like, affect battle or something.
Topic Starter
awp
armours
James
Taiko armor set ftw~
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Yeah, Skins would be armour.
Every character would start with the default osu skin, and places would sell skins.
Maybe you get to go to the Hideout of Luigi's Delinquents, and you can buy all kinds of skins there.
James
Hideout of Luigi is like a hidden area not even visible in the world map (just ripped this off from some games, SO2)

and sells every expensive semi-imbalanced stuff.

and yeah everyone in the main party would start in default armors/skins
even their weapons? mouse(flail), pen+tablet(SnS), crappy tablet pc(book for mages?)
and where is the sword? i guess there is none?
Loginer
Does anyone feel like making an engine, or should we use RPG Maker vee-ehx?
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Doesn't a pen and tablet count as a sword and shield?
Well, I wouldn't know about engines, seeing as I haven't ever used RPG Maker, so I don't know how good it is, but it might have to be a custom engine.
James
Yeah, SnS - Sword and Shield
I'm pertaining to 'swords' as long sword, greatsword, bastardsword, duals, etc.

and If I know how to code I'll start doing this. heh

/me reads some codes
Topic Starter
awp

Loginer wrote:

Does anyone feel like making an engine, or should we use RPG Maker vee-ehx?
I'm coding something of my own at the moment that will have some recyclable code that can be used for most RPG engines.
Sinistro

James wrote:

and where is the sword? i guess there is none?
Stylus, maybe? More Ouendan that Osu!, but not too unrelated.
Topic Starter
awp
Giant freaking mouse cursor.

Someone should use the osu! cross-hair as a Frisbee weapon.
Slain087
I wonder what the "ultimate weapons/armor" would look like? Maybe we can have that katamari cursor be an ultimate weapon, and the more you kill, the more sticks to the weapon, increasing damage output. Although there has to be an upper limit for that.

Speaking of armor, will the skins change the appearance of the player character, or are they just for show?
Topic Starter
awp
Probably the latter, though the former could be done.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
I think it would be awesome if skins changed the appearance, but it might get confusing to code and stuff.
Topic Starter
awp
It's easy as hell to code. It's just a matter of adding additional sprites to the game - if everyone is the same size and has the same animations you can get away with one spriteset per armour, otherwise you've gotta refit it to each character. Easy to program, though.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Well, everyone being the same size might be weird, seeing as I'm a Prinny, and they're known to be small.
Topic Starter
awp
Guests would be an exception.

Probably with fixed equipment.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Yeah.
Would weapons and stuff show as well?
Topic Starter
awp
Of course.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
This is starting to sound most righteous dude.
Slain087
Are we just going to do the standard six-slot system (weapon, shield, head, armor, legs, accessory) for equips?
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Well, head and legs might be left out, and just combined into the skin slot.
Topic Starter
awp
Probably just weapon, armour, and 2 "mods" (accessories).
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Yeah, that'd be least confusing.
What about stats?
HP
MP
Spd
Atk
Def
etc.
Sinistro
Speed should so be BPM or something analogous. HP (or possibly MP instead) could be something like Rhythm/Tempo/Beat/Groove.
Topic Starter
awp
Ki.
Agent BA8 Rookbie
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Saturos
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Agent BA8 Rookbie
That sounds good actually.
Fraeon
I demand a story role in this game!
Agent BA8 Rookbie
Don't worry, you're a mod. Role is almost guaranteed, well, granted you've got something in mind.
Neo@lex
has anyone bothered to have a look at possible engines yet?
Agent BA8 Rookbie
awp said he might make a custom engine. That's a good enough reason for me not to look.
Frost_old
This would be insane. Maybe we could combine aspects of this with the ranking system(like peppy being the "creator"/ "god of osu!" or something that could be seen on the Osu IRC)
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