15:50 dkun: hey guys
15:50 dkun: hey guys
15:51 dkun: if a timing is correct, but a red section fixes how nightcore mod presents itself
15:51 dkun: ie: a new red section
15:51 dkun: is this okay?
15:51 Sushi: like a stanza reset ?
15:51 dkun: y
15:51 Sushi: I would say that it's ok
15:52 dkun: need more opinions, anyone?
15:52 mm201: Sounds fine to me, does it fix/ruin things in taiko?
15:52 dkun: because I would call this an invalid "unrankable" bubble pop
15:52 dkun: those:
15:52 mm201: I'd think taiko fixing red lines would follow the same logic
15:54 dkun: it moreover fixes the cymbials from nightcore
15:54 dkun: not sure on taiko
15:54 dkun: "Playing it with Nightcore mod may help you understand what I mean, if you don't already. If the 01:07:955 - 80bpm line isn't there, an unpleasant crash cymbal will play at 01:16:955 - - the wrong time. If there's any concern about a timing problem, 80bpm translates to exactly 3,000ms per measure. Having an integer - an unrounded value - will ensure that any lines snapped will not cause any change to the timing."
15:54 mm201: the logic should be the same, only nightcore is even pickier since it works in groups of 4 bars
15:55 dkun: which the red line is working around
15:55 dkun: and which the map was popped over
15:55 dkun: due to an "unneeded" red line
15:55 mm201: shouldn't have been popped
15:55 dkun: which is ridiculous
15:55 dkun: okay, re-bubbling
15:55 mm201: if the red line is placed perfectly and doesn't lead to rounding errors
15:55 mm201: make sure snapped red lines are placed in the right way
15:55 mm201: there are wrong ways to do it
15:56 dkun: "01:07:955 - meaningless red line here neither change bpm nor fix stanza or timing signature. You need to delete it and resnap all note "
15:56 dkun: vs "Without it 01:07:955 - becomes stanza 9, which is not congruent to 0 mod 4 when it should be. Thus it's a non-issue. Thanks for the +5."
15:56 mm201: note that fixing nightcore is unnecessary
15:56 dkun: unnecessary, but allowed
15:56 mm201: yup
15:56 dkun: it shows that the mapper cares
15:57 mm201: is there just one extra red line?
15:57 mm201: if there's ever more than one, check that they placed them the ight way
15:57 mm201: right**
15:57 dkun: there's a few slowdown sections which lower the bpm, but this section is steady with the rest of the map
15:58 dkun: but the section is placed correctly, yes
15:58 mm201: for future reference: there are two correct ways:
15:58 mm201: either place red lines starting from the end and working back
15:58 mm201: or place them as green lines then change them to red once you're done
15:59 mm201: placing them from start to finish is WRONG and causes rounding errors
15:59 dkun: i'm sure those knows what he's doing :p
15:59 dkun: but i'll keep that in reference for myself
16:00 dkun: okay, re-bubbling this
16:00 mm201: each red line could be as much as 0.5ms out, and following the first two methods keeps that error from accumulating
16:06 dkun: okay, re-bubbled
16:06 dkun: thanks for the help sushi/mm201
16:06 Sushi: np
16:10 mm201: anytime