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fartownik
Me too, lolz.
Raging Bull
At this point I'm just suspicious of Kanye now for hopping around trying to scum hunt a little too hard to look town.
He got aggresive at Hika the moment she tried questioning if Kanye was a cop. Kanye said she was scum for not looking pro town by asking cop to claim (which she didn't.) and also he's been pointing at me, then voting for Hika and then bringing out even more WIFOM by adding in fartownik into the equation.



I still want to know why you think I'm scum and why I didn't "magically stop being scum overnight"
fartownik
I wonder why it's so quiet here.
fartownik
WHAT'S GOING ON, I'VE GIVEN A THEORY, NO ONE EVEN WANTS TO COMMENT IT?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Moderator's Notes: Around 11 hours until end of day 1.
Hika
No one feels like saying anymore? I'm out.

All I could say was clever, farto.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.10

(L-2) Kanye West (2) - Rantai, DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - fartownik
Hika (1) - Kanye West
Not voting (3) - Raging Bull, Nyquill, Hika

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, or 3 votes to No Lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Fun Fact: So far Day 2 is half the thread.
DakeDekaane
fart, why you heff to be mad?

I was checking Kayne's ISO
When I voted Hika and he threw his vote on RB, he goes from "I know RB is scum"
p/2363637
To a "RB/Hika scum" team and then"fartownik/Hika scum team", when Hika asked him if he was cop, and RB?
p/2364210/
And a "I thought I knew RB was scum" when I reminded him of RB.
p/2364284/

That'd be enough to prove that Kanye doesn't know what he is doing and why he's doing it :I

Based on this, and Kanye flipping scum (if he's lynched), we have:
- Hika/RB is scum and Kanye tried to gather the attention away from her by voting her/him to distancing.
- Nyquill is scum, Kanye didn't vote him when he was at L-1, was he afraid of something? or he knows he's town and hammering him would put FoS on him (in this last is likely that all the wagon would get suspicious, so it's very unlikely to happen to all FoS being on Kanye).
Kanye West
Well, I'm not scum, but hika sure is 8-)
DakeDekaane
We can lynch her after you :)

Some words for your last defense?
fartownik
I would like Rantai to speak before Kanye is lynched, though not sure if he'll be around.
Kanye West

DakeDekaane wrote:

We can lynch her after you :)

Some words for your last defense?
Ok sounds like a plan

My work here is done
fartownik

Unvote
Vote: Kanye West
DakeDekaane
I'll shit bricks if Kanye isn't scum.
Raging Bull
Posting to say ill read, but busy now.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Once again the principal comes to hear your decission, and you hand him Kanye West, which is delivered then to the police, a couple of hours later a police officer comes back and tells you: "We've found some incriminating evidence on this individual" and hands you a Handbook and a Textbook titled: "The history of Asia"

Final Vote Count Day 2

Kanye West (3) - Rantai, DakeDekaane, fartownik
Hika (1) - Kanye West
Not voting (3) - Raging Bull, Nyquill, Hika

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, or 3 votes to No Lynch.

Kanye West - Regular Student has been sent to Prison D2.

It is now Night 2, deadline for all night actions until June 15th 23:23 (GMT-5)
Topic Starter
Sakura
[i]As you wake up at the break of dawn, you hear the principal again: "Once again another of the bullies has turned in, good job students let's hope we can solve this situation once and for all!"

Nyquill - Regular Student has turned in to prison N2

Vote Count 3.0

Not voting (5) - Raging Bull, Hika, Rantai, DakeDekaane, fartownik

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline for Day 3 June 20th 11:23 (GMT-5)

IT IS NOW LYLO
DakeDekaane

This is not good, scum is still hidden, but I'll have to say them thanks for wasting your NK in Nyquill.

I already have my bet for today, I'm not going to vote now, Rantai come here pls ;_;

If all of you are nice people, please tell me your scum suspects and why.
Hika
Sorry DD, but if you don't mind for now, I'm gonna go to bed and I'll knock out pretty soon if I start playing mafia so I'll come by when I wake up.

I can tell you one thing though, RB is my main scum suspect.
Raging Bull
Hi

Roleclaim: Cop

N1 Nyquill town
N2 DD scum.

Vote: DD

I check Nyquill N1 since he was fairly inactive and just planting the vote on Pizzicato then disappearing forever into D2. I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town. In N2, DD was rather scummy to me.

Willing to vote for someone everyone is suspicious of for easy lynch (understandable but I keep explaining myself on why I did what I did.)
Tried rolefishing in D2 for a cop
Sounds like to me he was saying "I'm going to write an excuse to hammer someone so I don't look like scum. Also again with cop rolefish
[url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2361688]I felt like he couldn't answer my own question which is why he brushed it off as "I answered my own question"
[/url]
Using Kanye's WIFOM to place a vote on him at the right time?
Perhaps I'm reading into this a little too much but it looked like he somehow knew Kanye would be town

And then a bit in D1
He said we may be correct because he KNEW we were wrong. Using that to softening up his opinion before joining the bandwagon?
Commenting on how a lot of us wanted to rush to D2. So he helps the case by voting for the one that's going to get lynched already. Okay.

This is the most inconvenient time ever
Rantai
&#^$^#% Mafia cop or legit cop. Ly-lo, a bucket of wifom and nothing but speculation.

/sigh

--

Well that would explain why you wanted day 1 over so fast.

But that kill with that vote with that timing with that result is too convenient for me to just blindly follow.
Rantai
At the very least we know one of them is scum and one is town, so it's a 50/50 chance.
Rantai
Let's assume I'm town.

If RB is actually a cop;

DD is scum.
By proxy, Fart is town.
RB is town.
Hika is scum by default.

If RB is scum;

DD is town
Fart is null
Hika is null
RB is scum

Interestingly Hika is the only person not to be town in both cases (within the realms of reason).

I'm more or less inclined to vote Hika because RB's claim is shaky at best at this stage (In my case, it could be playing on my pre-conceptions about cops and not claiming and the fact that I pulled off an identical gambit as a scum role cop.)
Raging Bull
I have nothing against Hika, however she does seem suspicious too. When both of them voted for Nyquill based on nothing they had. They also probably tried distancing each other near the end of D2.
fartownik
@Rantai, there's still a possibility that if RB turns scum, DD would be scum too. It's LyLo after all, losing one scum is nothing if the mafia can win the game because of it. It actually would be a safer move from them tbh.

If this is true, then RB really is a cop, but a scum one. He really checked Nyquill (not exactly N1, but maybe N2) and that's why he's dead right now.

@RB: You said you checked Nyquill N1, why in the world in the middle of D2 would you say Nyquill is one of your main suspects then?

Raging Bull wrote:

DD/Nyquill

I'm really curious on DD's reason on why he has to hammer the person being voted on. It's like he uses that as an excuse to not look scummy when he hammers.

Nyquill looked pretty scummy to me, but I say he's currently on my suspect. He parked his vote on Pizzicato and (I assume) he was probably on (at least once )when Pizzicato started posting to question him on anything.
You did the same in the beginning of D2 as well, instead of what a real cop would do (trying to tell us he's town).

Raging Bull wrote:

You know how I feel about inactive.

Prod Nyquill

I felt like he wanted Pizzicato lynched more than I do despite the fact the whole Rantai and I thing happening. He seemed to have ignored the entire discussion on it.
Also the thing that bothered me from the beginning was you not sheeping to me when I unvoted Pizzicato. You had a chance, you didn't do it.

I can't trust my theories fully after Kanye got lynched, but I can trust others' thoughts. Please share your opinions THIS TIME, because last time it didn't turn out well without them.
Rantai
That is an aggressive gambit for sure. Good pick up though, didn't think of that.
Raging Bull
@RB: You said you checked Nyquill N1, why in the world in the middle of D2 would you say Nyquill is one of your main suspects then?
I thought I said it already. I'm not going to risk trying to reveal my role. The more I blend in, the less chance of mafia finding out how I knew he was town.

Raging Bull wrote:

I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town.

Also the thing that bothered me from the beginning was you not sheeping to me when I unvoted Pizzicato. You had a chance, you didn't do it.

I can't trust my theories fully after Kanye got lynched, but I can trust others' thoughts. Please share your opinions THIS TIME, because last time it didn't turn out well without them.

I had no reason to sheep to you. I knew nothing about Pizzicato and looked like he told us nothing from the fact he was doctor AFTER he got lynched. Suspicious much? You think he would have helped by at least role claiming and save us a PR for at least one day where he can try to protect another town?


And I seriously forgot about the deadline when I last posted. Sorry about that. I shared my thoughts already about DD and Hika. Perhaps you can ask something more specific because I don't know what else are you trying to ask for.
fartownik
I'm gonna wait for DD to see what he has to say about this. Prepare well!
DakeDekaane

Raging Bull wrote:

Hi

Roleclaim: Cop

And we have our Mafia cop here :3
You investigated me to look if I was a cop right?
Also there's the possibility you investigated fartownik and confirmed his claim in D1, making you think I'm the cop and trying to make everybody vote at me. But that's very unlikely to happen as there's a 90% of fartownik being your scumbuddy.
Silly move from your part, you should have killed me this night and not Nyquill, thank you.

Raging Bull wrote:

N1 Nyquill town
N2 DD scum.

Vote: DD

I check Nyquill N1 since he was fairly inactive and just planting the vote on Pizzicato then disappearing forever into D2. I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town. In N2, DD was rather scummy to me.

Willing to vote for someone everyone is suspicious of for easy lynch (understandable but I keep explaining myself on why I did what I did.)
And I still wanted to gather more info as fart was rushing to end of the day.

Raging Bull wrote:

Tried rolefishing in D2 for a cop
And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.

Raging Bull wrote:

Sounds like to me he was saying "I'm going to write an excuse to hammer someone so I don't look like scum. Also again with cop rolefish
Did I hammer? Did I tried to convince you to vote Nyquill? No, this just makes no sense Bull E.

Raging Bull wrote:

[url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2361688]I felt like he couldn't answer my own question which is why he brushed it off as "I answered my own question"
[/url]
Your question about the safe lynch? It's here. Why you no read all the thread?

Raging Bull wrote:

Using Kanye's WIFOM to place a vote on him at the right time?
Nope, he himself labeled as scum based on his own actions. As I put here.

Raging Bull wrote:

Perhaps I'm reading into this a little too much but it looked like he somehow knew Kanye would be town
As above, he had a big signal of "I'm scum" for me, ofc I'd be very surprised if he wasn't, and magic happened!

Raging Bull wrote:

And then a bit in D1
He said we may be correct because he KNEW we were wrong. Using that to softening up his opinion before joining the bandwagon?
I didn't know nothing, Pizzicato's actions was scummy indeed and fart's Nyquill's words convinced me.

Raging Bull wrote:

Commenting on how a lot of us wanted to rush to D2. So he helps the case by voting for the one that's going to get lynched already. Okay.
The original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town, I wasn't able to remove my vote due to some problems irl (my power supply, do you remember?).

This is the most inconvenient time ever
Anyway, my bet this day was to vote you, but I'm 100% sure now, thanks for kinda fakeclaim, Mr. Mafia Cop. Well played, until now~

Vote: Raging Bully
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.01

DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull
Raging Bull (1) - DakeDekaane

Not voting (3) - Hika, Rantai, fartownik

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Rantai
Know what, I want to know what Hika has to say about this.

And I think it's obvious by now but don't add anymore votes, seeing as a misvote will lead to an instant hammer.
Hika
I have one question before I contribute.

RB, why haven't you scanned me yet if Rantai and DD were on me earlier? Are you sure you didn't bother to scan me?
Raging Bull
Posting to say that I will read at work.
Raging Bull
I'll answer DD without quotes at work, but in order. Takes too much time fixing on phone.
Raging Bull
Im sure you are al waiting for me. Sorry. Ill post some now



DD

Quote 1

Looks rolefishing to me. Blatantly asking if hes cop. Then you still try to convince him to vote/stay on nyquill .

Quote 2

What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it.



Hika
God do you read? I said i was suspicious of DD.
DakeDekaane
Is that all? will you only reply to the first two sentences? Please, everybody knows scum doesn't read properly. Even your short reply has big flaws.

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 1

Looks rolefishing to me. Blatantly asking if hes cop. Then you still try to convince him to vote/stay on nyquill .
When did I tried to convince him? Quote and link please.

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 2

What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it.
Repeating myself and bolding what you didn't read

DakeDekaane wrote:

And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.
Btw, you enumerated the quotes wrong, I'd recommend you to calm yourself before replying, you hurried too much making this last move and you're losing the game because that, after all that advantage you had *sigh*

Both of us know my alignment, also yours, and we know you're lying, please just give up, we all know you're scum now.
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

Im sure you are al waiting for me. Sorry. Ill post some now
If you look at my posting pattern, i have work at this time. No need to convince people to lynch me when i cant post
Raging Bull

DakeDekaane wrote:

And we have our Mafia cop here :3
You investigated me to look if I was a cop right?
Also there's the possibility you investigated fartownik and confirmed his claim in D1, making you think I'm the cop and trying to make everybody vote at me. But that's very unlikely to happen as there's a 90% of fartownik being your scumbuddy.
Silly move from your part, you should have killed me this night and not Nyquill, thank you.

Raging Bull wrote:

N1 Nyquill town
N2 DD scum.

Vote: DD

I check Nyquill N1 since he was fairly inactive and just planting the vote on Pizzicato then disappearing forever into D2. I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town. In N2, DD was rather scummy to me.

Willing to vote for someone everyone is suspicious of for easy lynch (understandable but I keep explaining myself on why I did what I did.)
And I still wanted to gather more info as fart was rushing to end of the day.

Answered in previous reply.

Raging Bull wrote:

Tried rolefishing in D2 for a cop
And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.

Answered in previous reply.

Raging Bull wrote:

Sounds like to me he was saying "I'm going to write an excuse to hammer someone so I don't look like scum. Also again with cop rolefish
Did I hammer? Did I tried to convince you to vote Nyquill? No, this just makes no sense Bull E.

No you didn't hammer, yet you did have an intent to hammer him if anyone else could convince you to believe he was mafia, which wouldn't even be much. You didn't convince me. You were trying to convince people that Nyquill was scum. Early vote with a weak reasoning. Why I was prodding Nyquill. Don't want him to defend himself? I just thought it was funny how you said scum doesn't read yet Nyquill already posted what he thought about what happened. Stating you think you know what you are doing. Then past this, you got pretty lucky with fart and having the little argument finding a cop. which is funny since he claimed VT.

Raging Bull wrote:

I felt like he couldn't answer my own question which is why he brushed it off as "I answered my own question"
Your question about the safe lynch? It's here. Why you no read all the thread?

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.

Raging Bull wrote:

Using Kanye's WIFOM to place a vote on him at the right time?
Nope, he himself labeled as scum based on his own actions. As I put here.

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.

Raging Bull wrote:

Perhaps I'm reading into this a little too much but it looked like he somehow knew Kanye would be town
As above, he had a big signal of "I'm scum" for me, ofc I'd be very surprised if he wasn't, and magic happened!

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.

Raging Bull wrote:

And then a bit in D1
He said we may be correct because he KNEW we were wrong. Using that to softening up his opinion before joining the bandwagon?
I didn't know nothing, Pizzicato's actions was scummy indeed and fart's Nyquill's words convinced me.

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.

Raging Bull wrote:

Commenting on how a lot of us wanted to rush to D2. So he helps the case by voting for the one that's going to get lynched already. Okay.
The original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town, I wasn't able to remove my vote due to some problems irl (my power supply, do you remember?).

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.

This is the most inconvenient time ever

Anyway, my bet this day was to vote you, but I'm 100% sure now, thanks for kinda fakeclaim, Mr. Mafia Cop. Well played, until now~

Vote: Raging Bully
K.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Is that all? will you only reply to the first two sentences? Please, everybody knows scum doesn't read properly. Even your short reply has big flaws.

Raging Bull wrote:

Im sure you are al waiting for me. Sorry. Ill post some now
Lol. Okay.


Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 1

Looks rolefishing to me. Blatantly asking if hes cop. Then you still try to convince him to vote/stay on nyquill .
When did I tried to convince him? Quote and link please.

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 2

What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it.
Repeating myself and bolding what you didn't read

DakeDekaane wrote:

And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.
I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.

Btw, you enumerated the quotes wrong, I'd recommend you to calm yourself before replying, you hurried too much making this last move and you're losing the game because that, after all that advantage you had *sigh*

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll answer DD without quotes at work, but in order. Takes too much time fixing on phone.
*sigh*

Both of us know my alignment, also yours, and we know you're lying, please just give up, we all know you're scum now.
Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.


Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.
Rantai
I... I'll get back to this (exam tomorrow).
fartownik
Vote: Hika
fartownik

SaigonAlice wrote:

do we kill someone yet
what the fuck

EDIT: Deleted the random guy's post.
DakeDekaane
Quoting is painful, but well, this is being fun, sad for you because I won't give the game to Bullies :3

Raging Bull wrote:

No you didn't hammer, yet you did have an intent to hammer him if anyone else could convince you to believe he was mafia, which wouldn't even be much. You didn't convince me. You were trying to convince people that Nyquill was scum. Early vote with a weak reasoning. Why I was prodding Nyquill. Don't want him to defend himself? I just thought it was funny how you said scum doesn't read yet Nyquill already posted what he thought about what happened. Stating you think you know what you are doing. Then past this, you got pretty lucky with fart and having the little argument finding a cop. which is funny since he claimed VT.
Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.
Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.
Oh, you're giving up?

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.
I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.
Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.
And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"
You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill :roll:

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.
I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.
Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.
Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?
It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.

Also I have to ask you something: Why did you decided to say I'm scum, why not Rantai? why not Hika? why not fartownik? Why did you scum kill Nyquill and not me, why not fartownik?
DakeDekaane
Oh crap th last url tag was for this
p/2369118

Also fartownik, why you voted Hika?
fartownik
Alright, one of you is clearly lying.

I voted Hika to check if this is not just a play between you two. If you were both scum you'd vote Hika and the game would end :s This means one of you is scum and one of you is not. Also by this I'm 90% sure that Hika is the 2nd scum, because if not her then Rantai, and I doubt he is.

The main question is obviously which one of you is lying. I guess we will decide it tommorrow (or you, because it's high likely that I will die tonight if we lynch Hika, I guess Rantai will be able to judge it by himself if I'm not there).

Well, the only questions I can ask right now:
@Dake: How would you convince me that you're town and RB is scum?
@RB: How would you convince me that you're town and Dake is scum?
Raging Bull
I'll try to answer much as I can before work.
Raging Bull

DakeDekaane wrote:

Quoting is painful, but well, this is being fun, sad for you because I won't give the game to Bullies :3

Yes, yes, and im not bully.

Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
I meant in as, you didn't just try to convince me, you tried convincing everyone else.
1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
Sorry, I don't truly agree with aggressiveness when it's the first post of the day and it's a vote. It's more of putting someone in l-2 for me.
2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
If you truly agreed, you wouldn't care about the prod.
3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
I don't get this. I asked basically asked why did you ask Nyquill to post his thoughts and you say "I didn't trust anyone at that moment"? So you ask him again? Sorry, I really don't get this one at all.
4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
Yes you did, then you went for Kanye because of how scummy he went since he was even easier lynch.
5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.
I said it time and time again. I don't know he's 100% town.

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.
Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.
Or perhaps you didn't know what to say yet and ignored it until I brought it up again. 8-)

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.
Oh, you're giving up?
No, there are nice people over the internet that if one person is correct, they will admit defeat instead of going on and on. Here you are correct and I will no need to extend the discussion about him.

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.
I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
Now stop using that against me.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.
Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.
And somehow, he magically disappears forever until L-1. Why vote someone who discuss vs someone who doesn't?

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.
And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.
Yet nothing in this post reads "Tell us something Pizzicato"

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"
You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill :roll:
Wait did I? I was saying I was trying to convince me/everyone above?

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.
I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?
Okay at this point we are on two different pages I think. I'm asking why are you asking someone to claim with guilty result. Then you post something without cop equated into it. Can you at least bold me the quote part? Because all I'm reading is who is scum and who is not based on what you wrote.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.
Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.
But, I'm not.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.
Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?
It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.
I told you how fart is probably thinking im scum.
Also I have to ask you something: Why did you decided to say I'm scum, why not Rantai? why not Hika? why not fartownik? Why did you scum kill Nyquill and not me, why not fartownik?
Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.

Also

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

I think that's all. Not sure if I missed some.

Also again. That was risky gambit. If DD and I were scum, Rantai sure would be mad.

DD was scum in LoL

My playstyle is usually the same. I don't vote for someone unless I'm pretty sure they are scum. Minus 5 man odd role cause that shit was gay. And I think one reason why I haven't been killed yet is because I was suspicious by quite a few people. I don't think mafia would try to target someone who is suspicious. They would rather go for someone else less suspicious by town instead. If you do need more convincing, I'll do it later because

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

incase DD cannot read it.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.02

DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull
Raging Bull (1) - DakeDekaane
Hika (1) - fartownik

Not voting (2) - Hika, Rantai

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Edit: Fix'd typo, thanks Dake
DakeDekaane

Sakura wrote:

Ranta
*giggles*

Yes, entertain me you Bully.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, yes, and im not bully.
>Raging BULL.
Ok. But leaving that aside, we both know you're the bully.

Raging Bull wrote:

Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
I meant in as, you didn't just try to convince me, you tried convincing everyone else.
Convince you to vote Nyquill? Where did I do that? Please, read all the sentences, not just those that you want to read.

1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
Sorry, I don't truly agree with aggressiveness when it's the first post of the day and it's a vote. It's more of putting someone in l-2 for me.
L-2, you mean when I unvoted? is really make the day last longer to do a well-based discussion bad for you?

2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
If you truly agreed, you wouldn't care about the prod.
You wanted to settle the things as fast as you could.

3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
I don't get this. I asked basically asked why did you ask Nyquill to post his thoughts and you say "I didn't trust anyone at that moment"? So you ask him again? Sorry, I really don't get this one at all.
As town, I didn't know who were in the same side as me, and who were scum, it's not easy to trust in some words, not for me, and still wanted to read more from everyone.

4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
Yes you did, then you went for Kanye because of how scummy he went since he was even easier lynch.
Easier? Kanye just got 3 votes, Rantai's and mine, and before the day ended, fartownik's, I don't think that was an easy lynch as you say.

5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.
I said it time and time again. I don't know he's 100% town.
So if you don't know he's 100% town, why are you bringing I asked him if he was cop?

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.
Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.
Or perhaps you didn't know what to say yet and ignored it until I brought it up again. 8-)
I didn't ignore it as you can see, just spat a condensed result for you.

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.
Oh, you're giving up?
No, there are nice people over the internet that if one person is correct, they will admit defeat instead of going on and on. Here you are correct and I will no need to extend the discussion about him.
Ok, point for me then.

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.
I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
Now stop using that against me.
Don't get mad please, I understood, but still is curious for me, can't I be curious?.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.
Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.
And somehow, he magically disappears forever until L-1. Why vote someone who discuss vs someone who doesn't?
Because you saw a nice opportunity of jumping onto him without making you look suspicious, and grabbing some link with fartownik.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.
And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.
Yet nothing in this post reads "Tell us something Pizzicato"
What post are you talking about? I voted Pizzicato here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2353294

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"
You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill :roll:
Wait did I? I was saying I was trying to convince me/everyone above?
That in any moment I didn't try to convince you to vote Nyquill, above you say I did, and here that I didn't.

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.
I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?
Okay at this point we are on two different pages I think. I'm asking why are you asking someone to claim with guilty result. Then you post something without cop equated into it. Can you at least bold me the quote part? Because all I'm reading is who is scum and who is not based on what you wrote.
My bad, copied the wrong link, I meant this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2364159

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.
Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.
But, I'm not.
Yes, you are, your acussations lacks of basis.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.
Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?
It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.
I told you how fart is probably thinking im scum.
Probably.

Also I have to ask you something: Why did you decided to say I'm scum, why not Rantai? why not Hika? why not fartownik? Why did you scum kill Nyquill and not me, why not fartownik?

Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.

Also

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

I think that's all. Not sure if I missed some.


Also again. That was risky gambit. If DD and I were scum, Rantai sure would be mad.

DD was scum in LoL

My playstyle is usually the same. I don't vote for someone unless I'm pretty sure they are scum. Minus 5 man odd role cause that shit was gay. And I think one reason why I haven't been killed yet is because I was suspicious by quite a few people. I don't think mafia would try to target someone who is suspicious. They would rather go for someone else less suspicious by town instead. If you do need more convincing, I'll do it later because

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

incase DD cannot read it.
Yes, quotes got messed. Better using color codes next time. And I read, I won't pressure the bully anymore as he will bully me.

And for this.

Raging Bull wrote:

Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.
You're wrong. You are trying to make me look scum due to Kanye's mislynch. You didn't kill me just for the sake of put suspicious on me. You haven't been killed because you're not the cop, not the town cop.

I'm pretty sure you will misunderstand this and bring it as the top scumslip, but I don't care because I expected this from you, but didn't happened, I have to say you that if I were mafia, I'd kill potential cop menaces instead an inactive player that rarely talks, as it'd be a free win as there's no confirmed towns and scum is still hidden. Bad move from your part, you tried to follow what fartownik posted here right?
Claiming cop doesn't save you when you have almost all FoS on you. You should know it, I did it in LoL game and we lost.

@fartownik: I have my answer ready, I'll post it when RB post his. I think he'll try to counter mine as his convincement. For now just read the exchange between RB and me, if you're truly town, I'm confident you will find who is lying by doing that.

Fixed quote
-Sakura
DakeDekaane
LOL, put wrong name in last quote, it was Raging Bull. daaaaaamn :I
DakeDekaane
@Mod: could you fix that ;n;
Topic Starter
Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Mod: could you fix that ;n;
Done
fartownik
@DD: The thing is, I can't. I've asked the question, please answer it. It'd be convenient if you both done it at the same time.

Also DD, you still think I'm scum with RB?
Raging Bull
Somewhere in this whole pile of shit we posted, you thought i was rushing or so. Thats why im emphasizing i have work.
Raging Bull
Also im at work
DakeDekaane
Yes fartownik, there's a high chance you're scum with him, but also Hika. I'd get mad if Rantai is the 2nd scum, but there's more actions that point to Hika and you. I can elaborate further if you desire.
DakeDekaane
Can we get an agreement to post our answer to you, fartownik?, maybe a specific time?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.03

DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull
Raging Bull (1) - DakeDekaane
Hika (1) - fartownik

Not voting (2) - Hika, Rantai

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

Moderator's Note: please remember that if a deadline is reached in a tie then it will count as a No Lynch.
Raging Bull
Just saying. I posted my answer.
Raging Bull
In the whole clusterfuck of the text. At the way bottom
Rantai
So either Hika or Fart are scum. (votes Hika, no hammer - indicates ONE of them is scum)

And either DD or RB are scum (Unless this is the most headache inducing scum distancing I have ever seen)

By using some earlier theories I have come to the conclusion that RB and DD are very unlikely to be scum together. Both Fart and DD are very unlikely to be scum together. Both Fart and Hika are highly unlikely to be scum together.

SPOILER
So.

If Fart is scum. RB is scum. Hika is town.

If Fart is town. Hika is scum. RB and DD are 50/50.

--

If RB is town. DD is scum. Fart is town. Hika is scum.

If RB is scum. DD is town. Fart and Hika are 50/50.

The nice thing is I am completely confirmed town (like anyone had any doubts). But for those that want an explanation; One of Hika or Fart must be scum (that's a given due to lack of hammer unless the mafia are trying to extend this game which is both an ass move and stupid). RB and DD cannot be distancing each other because of this, therefore one of them is scum or RB is a terrible, terrible, terrible town cop. On the flip side, if Fart and Hika are scum buddies then that completely contradicts RB x DD unless RB is a terrible, terrible, terrible town cop.
Rantai
For the record, both your giant gibberish quotes aren't convincing me either way.

It's just become a crap fest.
Rantai
Also, I'd like all of us to designate a time where all 5 of us are able to talk at the same time. It'd help things a lot.
DakeDekaane

Rantai wrote:

For the record, both your giant gibberish quotes aren't convincing me either way.

It's just become a crap fest.
Indeed, but I was open to follow that quote exchange until I uncovered RB completely, but it seems it won't happen.

@fartownik: The easiest way to prove you my alignment is pasting my role PM, but as this is LyLo I can't give myself that privilege, so I'll just say I'm town, a regular student. On other side, at least I know RB is lying, if he's town, it'd be a very stupid move to lie about his PR in this situation, as it's leading town to a dead end, so he must be scum. Also Kanye looked at me as town even when I put a lot of pressure on him, did he do that actions on purpose? Maybe, if he wasn't scum, then at least RB/Hika were scum as he said, my bet for today was voting RB/Hika based on who looked more suspicious for all of you, but then RB came with his kinda fakeclaim, making easier my decision.

Rantai wrote:

Also, I'd like all of us to designate a time where all 5 of us are able to talk at the same time. It'd help things a lot.
Any time between 20:00-03:00 GMT +0 would be okay for me, unless I get too busy or have to do some heavy stuff at work.
DakeDekaane
Also, it's very probable that RB fakeclaimed because he had many FoS on him.
Rantai
That's the only alternative unless you're claiming mafia.

In terms of going for the gambit, yeah, that makes sense. Hence why I was skeptical when the claim came out.
fartownik
The only thing I'm almost sure is that Hika is scum, as said before. There's no other way unless Rantai is scum and I don't wanna believe that.

The only way to judge who's scum right now between DD/RB would be to look myself in their scumspects. RB doesn't seem to find me as scum, which might indicate he's completely sure of DD being scum, or careless/wanting to convince me to vote his opponent by this. DD still believes I might be scum, which I find odd because Hika is NOT NULL, but scummy, and also hadn't contributed here for a long time. However, I can't be sure of how you all read me exactly so his suspicions might be justified.

I wish Rantai commented this post.
Rantai

fartownik wrote:

RB doesn't seem to find me as scum, which might indicate he's completely sure of DD being scum, or careless/wanting to convince me to vote his opponent by this.

Commonly, it's the latter that applies. But I really don't know at this stage, I'm super paranoid.

DD still believes I might be scum, which I find odd because Hika is NOT NULL, but scummy, and also hadn't contributed here for a long time. However, I can't be sure of how you all read me exactly so his suspicions might be justified.

Unfortunately Hika is null in the strict sense, there are no concrete leads that say you are scum or Hika is scum. Which really sucks.
Rantai
Hey RB, who of Hika or Fart do you think is scum again?
Raging Bull
Tired from work. Probably posting once or twice (depending if long or not) before going sleep. I'll try to post more in the morning. Also removed the first and last quote tag since it's easier to see which im replying to.

DakeDekaane wrote:

*giggles*

Yes, entertain me you Bully.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, yes, and im not bully.
>Raging BULL.
Ok. But leaving that aside, we both know you're the bully.


Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
I meant in as, you didn't just try to convince me, you tried convincing everyone else.
Convince you to vote Nyquill? Where did I do that? Please, read all the sentences, not just those that you want to read.
In that case refer to the below with the little mess up I did by posting two different quote at two different times.
1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
Sorry, I don't truly agree with aggressiveness when it's the first post of the day and it's a vote. It's more of putting someone in l-2 for me.
L-2, you mean when I unvoted? is really make the day last longer to do a well-based discussion bad for you?
No, you misread. I'm saying I don't agree that it's aggressive at all if you are the first post of the second day and putting a vote on someone. Aggressiveness for me is putting actual pressure on them (putting them L-2)
2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
If you truly agreed, you wouldn't care about the prod.
You wanted to settle the things as fast as you could.
No, do not assume that. I wanted him to defend himself.
3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
I don't get this. I asked basically asked why did you ask Nyquill to post his thoughts and you say "I didn't trust anyone at that moment"? So you ask him again? Sorry, I really don't get this one at all.
As town, I didn't know who were in the same side as me, and who were scum, it's not easy to trust in some words, not for me, and still wanted to read more from everyone.
Then he posted again. And then...you didn't do anything with his reply.
4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
Yes you did, then you went for Kanye because of how scummy he went since he was even easier lynch.
Easier? Kanye just got 3 votes, Rantai's and mine, and before the day ended, fartownik's, I don't think that was an easy lynch as you say.
Easy
5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.
I said it time and time again. I don't know he's 100% town.
So if you don't know he's 100% town, why are you bringing I asked him if he was cop?
"Roleclaim:cop" "D3 fart dies"

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.
Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.
Or perhaps you didn't know what to say yet and ignored it until I brought it up again. 8-)
I didn't ignore it as you can see, just spat a condensed result for you.
Or perhaps you didn't know what to say yet and ignored it until I brought it up again. 8-) Really, if you had nothing to hide, you might as well answered it earlier.

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.
Oh, you're giving up?
No, there are nice people over the internet that if one person is correct, they will admit defeat instead of going on and on. Here you are correct and I will no need to extend the discussion about him.
Ok, point for me then.
+1 for me against Rantai for agreeing then? Anyways done with this one.

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.
I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
Now stop using that against me.
Don't get mad please, I understood, but still is curious for me, can't I be curious?.
Answered already.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.
Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.
And somehow, he magically disappears forever until L-1. Why vote someone who discuss vs someone who doesn't?
Because you saw a nice opportunity of jumping onto him without making you look suspicious, and grabbing some link with fartownik.
I've been saying he's inactive since D1. Idk why do you keep making up more excuses about me.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.
And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.
Yet nothing in this post reads "Tell us something Pizzicato"
What post are you talking about? I voted Pizzicato here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2353294
Same post. Nothing in the post says "Tell us something, Pizzicato"

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"
You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill :roll:
Wait did I? I was saying I was trying to convince me/everyone above?
That in any moment I didn't try to convince you to vote Nyquill, above you say I did, and here that I didn't.
Here's the mess up. I read " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.
I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?
Okay at this point we are on two different pages I think. I'm asking why are you asking someone to claim with guilty result. Then you post something without cop equated into it. Can you at least bold me the quote part? Because all I'm reading is who is scum and who is not based on what you wrote.
My bad, copied the wrong link, I meant this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2364159
You role fished so hard really and made it look so scummy. Instead of blatantly ask, go a more subtle way. And I find it funny on why you would reveal your plan. It would have been much nicer to keep it a secret, but since you posted it, you probably convinced the scum cop not to reveal himself.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.
Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.
But, I'm not.
Yes, you are, your acussations lacks of basis.
But they don't.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.
Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?
It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.
I told you how fart is probably thinking im scum.
Probably.
Yes, quotes got messed. Better using color codes next time. And I read, I won't pressure the bully anymore as he will bully me.


And for this.

Raging Bull wrote:

Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.
You're wrong. You are trying to make me look scum due to Kanye's mislynch. You didn't kill me just for the sake of put suspicious on me. You haven't been killed because you're not the cop, not the town cop.

I haven't been killed yet because what mafia kills suspicious people?

I'm pretty sure you will misunderstand this and bring it as the top scumslip, but I don't care because I expected this from you, but didn't happened, I have to say you that if I were mafia, I'd kill potential cop menaces instead an inactive player that rarely talks, as it'd be a free win as there's no confirmed towns and scum is still hidden. Bad move from your part, you tried to follow what fartownik posted here right?
Claiming cop doesn't save you when you have almost all FoS on you. You should know it, I did it in LoL game and we lost.

I have no idea what the hell you are saying about fart post here. But hey, you learn from your mistakes, perhaps you are trying out a different plan.

DakeDekaane wrote:

@fartownik: The easiest way to prove you my alignment is pasting my role PM, but as this is LyLo I can't give myself that privilege, so I'll just say I'm town, a regular student.
Like the one on page 1?

Anyways I can also give you my flavor when I scanned him.
Raging Bull
I think that's everything.
Raging Bull

Rantai wrote:

Also, I'd like all of us to designate a time where all 5 of us are able to talk at the same time. It'd help things a lot.
Uh, probably like 8 till 11 UTC? Using the whole posting time here on the forums.

Rantai wrote:

Hey RB, who of Hika or Fart do you think is scum again?
I'm more convinced at this point fart is town. He has done a lot more than Hika, who also magically disappeared after this happened.
fartownik
I don't get shit from these long-ass quotes.

Also RB, answer Rantai's question.
Raging Bull
I'm done with posting that long ass quote. It doesn't serve it's purpose if we cannot convince any of you.
Raging Bull
Also I did.


I'm going off you as town. You have done much more than Hika has who has been just on and off and has now disappeared. Hika is the only one with a null read from all 4 of us.
fartownik
From my PoV Hika is scum. Saying this for the 4th time, it's her or Rantai for me so I choose her, it's obvious. The only thing is to Rantai trust me being town. You (Rantai) should go through my ISO or ask me some questions to confirm it if you don't believe, then 2 of us can make a consensus.
Rantai
I've already gone through your iso, I don't have any questions for you. I'm 80% confident in a Hika lynch at this moment.

But I want to mull it over for one more night.
Hika
I'm not posting on purpose because I actually wanna think out my vote.

I need to read all that clusterfuck from the previous pages and then I'll say some stuff later when I touch a computer, which is roughly several hours from the current moment. Besides, I've got to take pictures for school :U
DakeDekaane
Rantai, you know, I'd go with a RB lynch, because I want a RB lynch, I don't trust him, as his try on lynching me failed, then he goes on Hika, there are two cases:
- Hika is his scumbuddy and he's trying to bus her to gain town creedence for you.
- Hika is town and he wants to lead us to a mislynch.

Think it carefully please.

Now I'm going more with RB/fart team, but I prefer RB over fartownik, as he's the only confirmed scum for me.

Do you want me to reply that huge quote? Because I do.
fartownik
DD, you're not making this situation any better :s

Actually if we lynch Hika today (I'm certain she will turn scum), tommorrow we will be left with the sheet of RB, Dake and Rantai/me. It'd actually be safer to clear the situation with RB and Dake today, as we have more voices around than we will have tommorrow.

Dake, why are you now 'more going for the RB/fart team'?
Rantai
Oh ok.

Vote: RB












fartownik
Hurr, what was dat Rantai, lol.
Rantai
:P
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.03

Raging Bull (1) - DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull
Hika (1) - fartownik

Not voting (2) - Hika, Rantai

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes
fartownik
^ Rantai unvoted (see the spoilerbox in his post).

I swear these fricken spoilerboxes called "collapsed text" are almost invisible X_X
- Sakura
fartownik
Yeah, I didn't notice it at first too.
Rantai
Lol, I really wanted to see if that could bait anything ;P
fartownik
Ye, I've caught that. It was probably a bait on me?
Topic Starter
Sakura
guess i fell for it since i had just woke up haha
DakeDekaane
@Mod: Rantai unvoted, not voted Hika :c
I had it correctly on the first post, so yeah I wasn't counting him as voting Hika in my head, thanks for the catch tho
- Sakura


Before somebody comes with something: Yes, I want a RB lynch, but I don't want it now, if we can extend up to deadline, it'd be better, so we could get who is RB's partner.

Ok, I'll put my thoughts first.
Why fartownik?
In D1:
p/2346038/
Remember that aggressive sentence? RB unvoted you first very quickly, and yet you went over Pizzicato. Though when D1 was about to reach it's end, you say you feel he's town.
In D2:
p/2364318/
What would happen if Kanye was town here?
*RB is trying to give you town creedence by suspecting Hika.

Why Hika?
In D2: She doesn't even notice my reason on voting Nyquill and says she votes him because his inactivity and gut feelings. Even when we developed further with Nyquill, she was still saying the same stuff.
Fluff and vague posts.

Kanye suspected both of you, but more of Hika, yet he voted RB.
Nyquill suspected Hika, fartownik was anti-town for him.
And RB "suspecting" of Hika, already posted what I think about it.
Also Hika suspects RB.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here or if you're suspecting anyone else please tell me so I'll post this list again and maybe making new or even reducing possibilities:
Dake suspect RB/Hika/fartownik
RB suspects Dake/Hika
Rantai suspects Hika
fartownik suspects Hika
Hika suspects RB

We could have:
1. RB busing Hika. Hika is scum and if we lynch her, we'll end 3:1 and begin D4 2:1, with RB, Rantai/fartownik and me.
2. Hika is town, then fartownik is scum, following Rantai's logic as here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2359909/ but the other scenario is still good for scum as this one, so both have the same probability.
Basically what I said before, but easier to see, now that I put it as that, there's still an equal chance of either of both being scum.

Please tell me what do you think about both scenarios.
Rantai
Any scum who wanted to hammer fast.

Didn't tell me much at all.
Rantai
We have a huge deadline, just saying.

Also I know it's a 50/50 shot between fart and Hika (I mentioned it before) but Hika has done nothing to allay my suspicions. But the very possibility is why I'm sitting here with an ember on my butt (note 80/20 not 100/0).

Shame that we can't really use the whole "everyone suspects this person" analysis because the scum are wary about it.
fartownik
HOW THE FUCK COULD WE MISSED IT

Kanye West - VANILLA TOWNIE 1
fartownik - VANILLA TOWNIE 2
Rantai - VANILLA TOWNIE 3
Raging Bull - COP?
DakeDekaane - VANILLA TOWNIE 4
Nyquill - VANILLA TOWNIE 5
Pizzicato - TOWN DOCTOR
JInxyjem - VANILLA TOWNIE 6
Hika - SCUM?

=

6 VANILLA TOWNIES. Maximum of Vanilla Townies in the game is 5 + a possible additional one chosen from Jailkeeper, Doctor, Cop and Regular Student.

We have 6 vanilla townies which means 1 VT had to be picked randomly from that list and also Pizzicato was a doctor so we have 2 picked out of random, NO MORE PLACE FOR A COP.
Rantai
Holy crap.
fartownik
RB is a scum cop, I don't have much doubts about it now.
Rantai
Nah, I jumped the gun.

Kanye West - VT 5/5 VT 2/2 extra
Rantai - VT
Nyquill - VT
Pizzicato - Doc
JInxyjem - VT

Hika - Mafia/VT
DakeDekaane - Mafia
fartownik - VT/Mafia
Raging Bull - Cop

Nice try.
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Nah, I jumped the gun.

Kanye West - VT 5/5 VT 2/2 extra
Rantai - VT
Nyquill - VT
Pizzicato - Doc
JInxyjem - VT

Hika - Mafia/VT
DakeDekaane - Mafia
fartownik - VT/Mafia
Raging Bull - Cop

Nice try.
Sorry, but I don't really get it. How is a setup of 6 VTs and 2 PRs existing at the same time possible?
Rantai
I am dumb, that's how.
Rantai
Sorry, sleep deprivation is getting to me.
fartownik
No problem, it seems like a basic calculaction but in practice it turns out really confusing. But I'm sure I've counted it well.
Rantai
Wait wtf no, that's 5 VT, 2 mafia and 2 PR.

I'm going to sleep lest my stupidity gets any worse.
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