Yep, my mind isn't clear after all this, everybody look scummy to my eyes at different rates.

And why you keep saying I'm scum, stop pls and look at the secondary effects of my actions, that's what I'm doing since the beginning of this day, thanks for make me say it. That vote on you from Kanye just made my head explode in a million pieces.

DakeDekaane wrote:

And why you keep saying I'm scum, stop pls and look at the secondary effects of my actions, that's what I'm doing since the beginning of this day, thanks for make me say it.

What.

I only said you were scum once

I am probably blind, but what secondary effects? The vote on me when Kanye voted for Hika? Seems plausible though. I still say the discussion between Hika and Kanye in D1 were probably distancing

Raging Bull wrote:

I only said you were scum once

I am probably blind, but what secondary effects? The vote on me when you voted for Hika? Seems plausible though. I still say the discussion between Hika and Kanye in D1 were probably distancing

I should read what I write before I post.

You know what, there are just too many minute details to sift out what's pertinent and what's not.

So I'm going with what lines up best from my own theories;

Vote: Kayne

DakeDekaane wrote:

Yep, my mind isn't clear after all this, everybody look scummy to my eyes at different rates.

And why you keep saying I'm scum, stop pls and look at the secondary effects of my actions, that's what I'm doing since the beginning of this day, thanks for make me say it. That vote on you from Kanye just made my head explode in a million pieces.

see d1

and he didn't magically stop being scum overnight, so I vote him

I don't get it. You said fart and I were scum buddies because I defended him in L-2. Okay. Then you said fart looked more town. Okay. So where do I belong in your explanation?

DakeDekaane wrote:

And why you keep saying I'm scum, stop pls and look at the secondary effects of my actions, that's what I'm doing since the beginning of this day, thanks for make me say it. That vote on you from Kanye just made my head explode in a million pieces.

This paragraph kinda touches me incorrectly, could mean you're hopping around as well and makes you looks scummy to me because you also have nothing else to do this day.

Tell me, do you all want D2 to end?

And maybe the reason why it was weird to you was because he voted with no explanation in his voting post only to say something like 'he doesn't stop being scum overnight' the next time he posts. I'm not saying that it's not weird but I was just pointing that out.

Also, now that I read back, seems pretty scummy to me Kanye that you didn't mind hammering farto, was it? It was probably him. Scum isn't that stupid to reveal something unless you weren't thinking right that moment.

Raging Bull wrote:

I don't get it. You said fart and I were scum buddies because I defended him in L-2. Okay. Then you said fart looked more town. Okay. So where do I belong in your explanation?

no explanation needed. i know you're scum, so i'm voting for you. and i also believe nyquill is town. perhaps rantai is your scum buddy, making a tactical kill of jinxy so as to avoid any analysis of meta. or maybe fartownik is still your scum buddy, i don't know. all i know is, you're scum.

I'll put it as this:
1) I voted Nyquill because he wanted Pizzicato lynched in D1.
1.a) Hika seconded with "inactivity" and "gut feelings"
1.b) fartownik followed, he revealed later he thought I've confirmed Nyquill as scum.
1.c) Rantai asked for our scum suspects, everybody suspected Nyquill, there's the possibility of he being town and mafia just want to join there, if he's scum, it seems pretty stupid to bus him, I can't figure who could be his buddy. Hika just has only Nyquill as scum suspect.

2. I voted Hika due to her reasons on voting Nyquill.
2.a) Kanye suddenly came and voted RB. coincidence?

I have many conclusions on this:
- Kanye wants to take the attention away from Hika. Kanye/Hika are scum
- Kanye foresees that thought and just he's scum, and maybe RB with him.
- Rantai may be scum, but only if Nyquill is scum.

Hika, as you can see, I'm hopping around yes, but I'm not doing it randomly, what do you think about Kanye? You don't seem to notice him at all.

Also why you know RB is scum, Kanye?

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

I notice him and of course my most recent post has made me think that he's acting really scummy. Not giving a reason? Silly. At least I had one and that was due to my paranoia even. My second suspect is Kanye currently, and since we all (or most) have some type of FoS on him, he'll be my vote for the day most likely but...

@Kanye: You must be a cop if you know he's scum, correct?

Also DD, to follow up with my answer to the question about Kanye, I'd also be repeating some of the same things mentioned about him this current day. So I can confirm that my two scum suspects would be Nyquill or Kanye, but not both. I don't think scum would be silly enough to have 2 people actively inactive (dat contradiction).

Hika wrote:

@Kanye: You must be a cop if you know he's scum, correct?

and there's the scumslip

RB and hika are scum definitely.

At this point, doesn't matter if I get lynched, because that's what it might take for y'all to believe me.

See ya in a few hrs~~

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also why you know RB is scum, Kanye?

Kanye West wrote:

Hika wrote:

@Kanye: You must be a cop if you know he's scum, correct?

and there's the scumslip

Could you explain why is that a scumslip?

That wasn't a scumslip, that was me asking a question. You couldn't possibly know who anyone is unless you checked them at night.

a true town-aligned player would never want a cop to claim now, and a true town-aligned player would also not know that fartownik was vanilla

actually hika would be a better vote than RB right now

unvote

vote HIka

With that logic you might as well voted for rantai a long time ago.

Rather Nyquill because he asked first. And yeah, I was hoping there was a cop somewhere so we can actually lynch scum this time.

Not quite so RB.

I believe that if the cop has a guilty (note, guilty) then it is in town's best interest to have that information now opposed to the potential 1/4 chance (assuming mislynch) that they die along with that information and putting us at ly-lo with crap all.

Given this situation though, I doubt that our cop (if we have one) has a guilty result, so at this stage, a cop won't want to be outed.

What? You just said you know RB is scum, but you vote Hika instead?

Kanye West wrote:

and a true town-aligned player would also not know that fartownik was vanilla

I can't get it right, what do you mean?

Asking for a cop when he's sure of a guilty result today (you're attitude on RB makes me think so) put us in advantage, because:
- If it's a true claim, the day will end 5:1, plus the NK, 4:1, scum wouldn't be stupid enough to waste a NK with those numbers, can be managed with PoE.
- If fakeclaim, the day will end 4:2, plus the NK 3:2, assuming policy lynch on liar in D3, will be likely 3:1, plus the NK in N3, 2:1, LyLo, but still good if the remaining town knows what they're doing.

So don't get mad just because some of us are asking for cop now.

hika said she knew fartownik wasn't vanilla on d1

and i know both of them are scum

I didn't say he wasn't vanilla, I just said I couldn't believe him because he tried to avoid a lynch but I'm thinking he's most likely town with that claim back on D1.

oh ok, so you're still scum then?

also, may be another scumslip for a hika/fartownik scum team right there

That's enough for me.

Unvote
Vote: Kanye West

Why you forgot completely of your "I know RB is scum" to go against Hika/fartownik, though maybe RB is your scum pal, right?

i didn't forget completely

i still think RB and Hika are scum. fartownik is possibly scum and one of those two are not, but i'm not sure because it was just one slip. heck, even rantai may be scum, but in my mind that's even less likely. only two people i believe to be town are you and nyquill (but slightly less so).

and yeah RB is totally my scum buddy because I've been voting him almost the entire time for the past two days, yes that makes perfect sense

please note sarcasm

You clearly said before "I know RB is scum", but now you think is scum, Kanye pls.

Rantai wrote:

Not quite so RB.

I believe that if the cop has a guilty (note, guilty) then it is in town's best interest to have that information now opposed to the potential 1/4 chance (assuming mislynch) that they die along with that information and putting us at ly-lo with crap all.

Given this situation though, I doubt that our cop (if we have one) has a guilty result, so at this stage, a cop won't want to be outed.

Perhaps I don't mean you asking for cop to come out no matter what, but the point was you did ask for cop to claim if he had a guilty result.

And why the hell do you keep jumping around a lot Kanye? It's like as if you couldn't make up your mind or something.

i thought i knew he was scum

but now i'm not so sure

out of RB, hika, and fartownik, i KNOW at least one of them is scum

but based on what hika said, i'm not so sure anymore

all i know is, you're likely town, and nyquill is likely town based on how fast the wagon on him piled up, the weird reasons as to why he was voted, and fartownik's trying to bait me into hammering him.

Kanye West wrote:

also, may be another scumslip for a hika/fartownik scum team right there

so what does this mean just because I think he's town
I just don't want to lynch possible town and he hasn't done anything suspicious in my eyes, I'm still stuck on you and Nyquill, but more so you

Kanye West wrote:

i thought i knew he was scum

but now i'm not so sure

out of RB, hika, and fartownik, i KNOW at least one of them is scum

but based on what hika said, i'm not so sure anymore

all i know is, you're likely town, and nyquill is likely town based on how fast the wagon on him piled up, the weird reasons as to why he was voted, and fartownik's trying to bait me into hammering him.

What did Hika say?

Hika wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

also, may be another scumslip for a hika/fartownik scum team right there

so what does this mean just because I think he's town
I just don't want to lynch possible town and he hasn't done anything suspicious in my eyes, I'm still stuck on you and Nyquill, but more so you

Why go on Nyquill? We all agreed that he's town? Really?

Don't twist my words around!

Raging Bull wrote:

Why go on Nyquill? We all agreed Nyquill is pretty much town? Really?

Did we all really agree to that? I still wanna see farto's view on that unless he's already stated it then if so, fine we'll consider him town if majority wants it so

Kanye West wrote:

and he didn't magically stop being scum overnight, so I vote him

Bravo Kanye. I almost believed you're Cop.

The quote above was used by Lybydose to soft-claim Cop in Mafia Restoration Project.

In this game, it was directed to me and other players that participated in that game. You were hoping for us to recall it and instinctly vote the person you say (RB) without revealing your role.

However, I don't quite believe it. Reaons:

1. Why in the world would you wait with such action if you are Cop? Answer: you got pressured by Rantai, it's your defense tactic. You're only using it right now because you have no other choice. This is the wage reason and can be used alone to vote you. But there's more.
2. After your softclaim, you voted RB. But later, you went for Hika. Why would you go for Hika whom you didn't check overnight instead of RB that you have confirmed as scum? Oh, I know why. Hika is town, and our mislynch on her today would look like a fail assumption from your side. Tommorrow we'd be forced by you to vote RB because you'd officialy claim Cop and claim checking him N1. We'd have to pick between you and him, choosing him of course because you're a Power Role.

Lemme know what you think about it guys.

EBWOP: Forgot.
3. It's not very plausible you've been roled Cop and got a scum result already N1.

Except that I never claimed cop. Because I'm not cop. All your reasons are invalid. Nice catch though.

I said the same thing Lybydose said because I thought it was funny.

Sheet. I knew you would deny your Copness. Just confirming my read on you.

fartownik wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

and he didn't magically stop being scum overnight, so I vote him

The quote above was used by Lybydose to soft-claim Cop in Mafia Restoration Project.

Posting in here to say. HAHAHAHA.

Also I'll post more later. Going to work.


Writing on phone sucks.

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

^ Deadline?

fartownik wrote:

^ Deadline?

1
DAY
5
HOURS
42
MINUTES
43
SECONDS
Or you could also click the link in the OP. i set up a countdown for that :<

Edit: Those caps weren't on purpose, that's the result of me copy/pasting from the countdown website.

damn Sakura chill dem tits or i'll chill dem for u

farto, I'm surprised you actually caught that. No wonder it seemed familiar to me.

Sakura wrote:

fartownik wrote:

^ Deadline?

1
DAY
5
HOURS
42
MINUTES
43
SECONDS
Or you could also click the link in the OP. i set up a countdown for that :<

Sorry bby, didn't notice it. Forgive me.

oh I totally thought you were getting on farto >:
wao

Me too, lolz.

At this point I'm just suspicious of Kanye now for hopping around trying to scum hunt a little too hard to look town.
He got aggresive at Hika the moment she tried questioning if Kanye was a cop. Kanye said she was scum for not looking pro town by asking cop to claim (which she didn't.) and also he's been pointing at me, then voting for Hika and then bringing out even more WIFOM by adding in fartownik into the equation.



I still want to know why you think I'm scum and why I didn't "magically stop being scum overnight"

I wonder why it's so quiet here.

WHAT'S GOING ON, I'VE GIVEN A THEORY, NO ONE EVEN WANTS TO COMMENT IT?

No one feels like saying anymore? I'm out.

All I could say was clever, farto.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Fun Fact: So far Day 2 is half the thread.

fart, why you heff to be mad?

I was checking Kayne's ISO
When I voted Hika and he threw his vote on RB, he goes from "I know RB is scum"
p/2363637
To a "RB/Hika scum" team and then"fartownik/Hika scum team", when Hika asked him if he was cop, and RB?
p/2364210/
And a "I thought I knew RB was scum" when I reminded him of RB.
p/2364284/

That'd be enough to prove that Kanye doesn't know what he is doing and why he's doing it :I

Based on this, and Kanye flipping scum (if he's lynched), we have:
- Hika/RB is scum and Kanye tried to gather the attention away from her by voting her/him to distancing.
- Nyquill is scum, Kanye didn't vote him when he was at L-1, was he afraid of something? or he knows he's town and hammering him would put FoS on him (in this last is likely that all the wagon would get suspicious, so it's very unlikely to happen to all FoS being on Kanye).

Well, I'm not scum, but hika sure is

We can lynch her after you

Some words for your last defense?

I would like Rantai to speak before Kanye is lynched, though not sure if he'll be around.

DakeDekaane wrote:

We can lynch her after you

Some words for your last defense?

Ok sounds like a plan

My work here is done

I'll shit bricks if Kanye isn't scum.

Posting to say ill read, but busy now.

[i]As you wake up at the break of dawn, you hear the principal again: "Once again another of the bullies has turned in, good job students let's hope we can solve this situation once and for all!"

Nyquill - Regular Student has turned in to prison N2


Deadline for Day 3 June 20th 11:23 (GMT-5)

IT IS NOW LYLO

This is not good, scum is still hidden, but I'll have to say them thanks for wasting your NK in Nyquill.

I already have my bet for today, I'm not going to vote now, Rantai come here pls ;_;

If all of you are nice people, please tell me your scum suspects and why.

Sorry DD, but if you don't mind for now, I'm gonna go to bed and I'll knock out pretty soon if I start playing mafia so I'll come by when I wake up.

I can tell you one thing though, RB is my main scum suspect.

Hi

Roleclaim: Cop

N1 Nyquill town
N2 DD scum.

Vote: DD

I check Nyquill N1 since he was fairly inactive and just planting the vote on Pizzicato then disappearing forever into D2. I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town. In N2, DD was rather scummy to me.

Willing to vote for someone everyone is suspicious of for easy lynch (understandable but I keep explaining myself on why I did what I did.)
Tried rolefishing in D2 for a cop
Sounds like to me he was saying "I'm going to write an excuse to hammer someone so I don't look like scum. Also again with cop rolefish
[url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2361688]I felt like he couldn't answer my own question which is why he brushed it off as "I answered my own question"
[/url]
Using Kanye's WIFOM to place a vote on him at the right time?
Perhaps I'm reading into this a little too much but it looked like he somehow knew Kanye would be town

And then a bit in D1
He said we may be correct because he KNEW we were wrong. Using that to softening up his opinion before joining the bandwagon?
Commenting on how a lot of us wanted to rush to D2. So he helps the case by voting for the one that's going to get lynched already. Okay.

This is the most inconvenient time ever

&#^$^#% Mafia cop or legit cop. Ly-lo, a bucket of wifom and nothing but speculation.

/sigh

--

Well that would explain why you wanted day 1 over so fast.

But that kill with that vote with that timing with that result is too convenient for me to just blindly follow.

At the very least we know one of them is scum and one is town, so it's a 50/50 chance.

Let's assume I'm town.

If RB is actually a cop;

DD is scum.
By proxy, Fart is town.
RB is town.
Hika is scum by default.

If RB is scum;

DD is town
Fart is null
Hika is null
RB is scum

Interestingly Hika is the only person not to be town in both cases (within the realms of reason).

I'm more or less inclined to vote Hika because RB's claim is shaky at best at this stage (In my case, it could be playing on my pre-conceptions about cops and not claiming and the fact that I pulled off an identical gambit as a scum role cop.)

I have nothing against Hika, however she does seem suspicious too. When both of them voted for Nyquill based on nothing they had. They also probably tried distancing each other near the end of D2.

@Rantai, there's still a possibility that if RB turns scum, DD would be scum too. It's LyLo after all, losing one scum is nothing if the mafia can win the game because of it. It actually would be a safer move from them tbh.

If this is true, then RB really is a cop, but a scum one. He really checked Nyquill (not exactly N1, but maybe N2) and that's why he's dead right now.

@RB: You said you checked Nyquill N1, why in the world in the middle of D2 would you say Nyquill is one of your main suspects then?

Raging Bull wrote:

DD/Nyquill

I'm really curious on DD's reason on why he has to hammer the person being voted on. It's like he uses that as an excuse to not look scummy when he hammers.

Nyquill looked pretty scummy to me, but I say he's currently on my suspect. He parked his vote on Pizzicato and (I assume) he was probably on (at least once )when Pizzicato started posting to question him on anything.

You did the same in the beginning of D2 as well, instead of what a real cop would do (trying to tell us he's town).

Raging Bull wrote:

You know how I feel about inactive.

Prod Nyquill

I felt like he wanted Pizzicato lynched more than I do despite the fact the whole Rantai and I thing happening. He seemed to have ignored the entire discussion on it.

Also the thing that bothered me from the beginning was you not sheeping to me when I unvoted Pizzicato. You had a chance, you didn't do it.

I can't trust my theories fully after Kanye got lynched, but I can trust others' thoughts. Please share your opinions THIS TIME, because last time it didn't turn out well without them.

That is an aggressive gambit for sure. Good pick up though, didn't think of that.

@RB: You said you checked Nyquill N1, why in the world in the middle of D2 would you say Nyquill is one of your main suspects then?

I thought I said it already. I'm not going to risk trying to reveal my role. The more I blend in, the less chance of mafia finding out how I knew he was town.

Raging Bull wrote:

I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town.

Also the thing that bothered me from the beginning was you not sheeping to me when I unvoted Pizzicato. You had a chance, you didn't do it.

I can't trust my theories fully after Kanye got lynched, but I can trust others' thoughts. Please share your opinions THIS TIME, because last time it didn't turn out well without them.

I had no reason to sheep to you. I knew nothing about Pizzicato and looked like he told us nothing from the fact he was doctor AFTER he got lynched. Suspicious much? You think he would have helped by at least role claiming and save us a PR for at least one day where he can try to protect another town?


And I seriously forgot about the deadline when I last posted. Sorry about that. I shared my thoughts already about DD and Hika. Perhaps you can ask something more specific because I don't know what else are you trying to ask for.

I'm gonna wait for DD to see what he has to say about this. Prepare well!

Raging Bull wrote:

Hi

Roleclaim: Cop

And we have our Mafia cop here :3
You investigated me to look if I was a cop right?
Also there's the possibility you investigated fartownik and confirmed his claim in D1, making you think I'm the cop and trying to make everybody vote at me. But that's very unlikely to happen as there's a 90% of fartownik being your scumbuddy.
Silly move from your part, you should have killed me this night and not Nyquill, thank you.

Raging Bull wrote:

N1 Nyquill town
N2 DD scum.

Vote: DD

I check Nyquill N1 since he was fairly inactive and just planting the vote on Pizzicato then disappearing forever into D2. I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town. In N2, DD was rather scummy to me.

Willing to vote for someone everyone is suspicious of for easy lynch (understandable but I keep explaining myself on why I did what I did.)

And I still wanted to gather more info as fart was rushing to end of the day.

Raging Bull wrote:

Tried rolefishing in D2 for a cop

And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.

Raging Bull wrote:

Sounds like to me he was saying "I'm going to write an excuse to hammer someone so I don't look like scum. Also again with cop rolefish

Did I hammer? Did I tried to convince you to vote Nyquill? No, this just makes no sense Bull E.

Raging Bull wrote:

[url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2361688]I felt like he couldn't answer my own question which is why he brushed it off as "I answered my own question"
[/url]

Your question about the safe lynch? It's here. Why you no read all the thread?

Raging Bull wrote:

Using Kanye's WIFOM to place a vote on him at the right time?

Nope, he himself labeled as scum based on his own actions. As I put here.

Raging Bull wrote:

Perhaps I'm reading into this a little too much but it looked like he somehow knew Kanye would be town

As above, he had a big signal of "I'm scum" for me, ofc I'd be very surprised if he wasn't, and magic happened!

Raging Bull wrote:

And then a bit in D1
He said we may be correct because he KNEW we were wrong. Using that to softening up his opinion before joining the bandwagon?

I didn't know nothing, Pizzicato's actions was scummy indeed and fart's Nyquill's words convinced me.

Raging Bull wrote:

Commenting on how a lot of us wanted to rush to D2. So he helps the case by voting for the one that's going to get lynched already. Okay.
The original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town, I wasn't able to remove my vote due to some problems irl (my power supply, do you remember?).

This is the most inconvenient time ever

Anyway, my bet this day was to vote you, but I'm 100% sure now, thanks for kinda fakeclaim, Mr. Mafia Cop. Well played, until now~

Vote: Raging Bully

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

Know what, I want to know what Hika has to say about this.

And I think it's obvious by now but don't add anymore votes, seeing as a misvote will lead to an instant hammer.

I have one question before I contribute.

RB, why haven't you scanned me yet if Rantai and DD were on me earlier? Are you sure you didn't bother to scan me?

Posting to say that I will read at work.

I'll answer DD without quotes at work, but in order. Takes too much time fixing on phone.

Im sure you are al waiting for me. Sorry. Ill post some now



DD

Quote 1

Looks rolefishing to me. Blatantly asking if hes cop. Then you still try to convince him to vote/stay on nyquill .

Quote 2

What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it.



Hika
God do you read? I said i was suspicious of DD.

Is that all? will you only reply to the first two sentences? Please, everybody knows scum doesn't read properly. Even your short reply has big flaws.

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 1

Looks rolefishing to me. Blatantly asking if hes cop. Then you still try to convince him to vote/stay on nyquill .

When did I tried to convince him? Quote and link please.

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 2

What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it.

Repeating myself and bolding what you didn't read

DakeDekaane wrote:

And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.

Btw, you enumerated the quotes wrong, I'd recommend you to calm yourself before replying, you hurried too much making this last move and you're losing the game because that, after all that advantage you had *sigh*

Both of us know my alignment, also yours, and we know you're lying, please just give up, we all know you're scum now.

Raging Bull wrote:

Im sure you are al waiting for me. Sorry. Ill post some now

If you look at my posting pattern, i have work at this time. No need to convince people to lynch me when i cant post

DakeDekaane wrote:

And we have our Mafia cop here :3
You investigated me to look if I was a cop right?
Also there's the possibility you investigated fartownik and confirmed his claim in D1, making you think I'm the cop and trying to make everybody vote at me. But that's very unlikely to happen as there's a 90% of fartownik being your scumbuddy.
Silly move from your part, you should have killed me this night and not Nyquill, thank you.

Raging Bull wrote:

N1 Nyquill town
N2 DD scum.

Vote: DD

I check Nyquill N1 since he was fairly inactive and just planting the vote on Pizzicato then disappearing forever into D2. I only stated he was my suspect so I would blend in well and mafia won't suspect I knew Nyquill was town. In N2, DD was rather scummy to me.

Willing to vote for someone everyone is suspicious of for easy lynch (understandable but I keep explaining myself on why I did what I did.)

And I still wanted to gather more info as fart was rushing to end of the day.

Answered in previous reply.

Raging Bull wrote:

Tried rolefishing in D2 for a cop

And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.

Answered in previous reply.

Raging Bull wrote:

Sounds like to me he was saying "I'm going to write an excuse to hammer someone so I don't look like scum. Also again with cop rolefish

Did I hammer? Did I tried to convince you to vote Nyquill? No, this just makes no sense Bull E.

No you didn't hammer, yet you did have an intent to hammer him if anyone else could convince you to believe he was mafia, which wouldn't even be much. You didn't convince me. You were trying to convince people that Nyquill was scum. Early vote with a weak reasoning. Why I was prodding Nyquill. Don't want him to defend himself? I just thought it was funny how you said scum doesn't read yet Nyquill already posted what he thought about what happened. Stating you think you know what you are doing. Then past this, you got pretty lucky with fart and having the little argument finding a cop. which is funny since he claimed VT.

Raging Bull wrote:

I felt like he couldn't answer my own question which is why he brushed it off as "I answered my own question"

Your question about the safe lynch? It's here. Why you no read all the thread?

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.

Raging Bull wrote:

Using Kanye's WIFOM to place a vote on him at the right time?

Nope, he himself labeled as scum based on his own actions. As I put here.

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.

Raging Bull wrote:

Perhaps I'm reading into this a little too much but it looked like he somehow knew Kanye would be town

As above, he had a big signal of "I'm scum" for me, ofc I'd be very surprised if he wasn't, and magic happened!

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.

Raging Bull wrote:

And then a bit in D1
He said we may be correct because he KNEW we were wrong. Using that to softening up his opinion before joining the bandwagon?

I didn't know nothing, Pizzicato's actions was scummy indeed and fart's Nyquill's words convinced me.

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.

Raging Bull wrote:

Commenting on how a lot of us wanted to rush to D2. So he helps the case by voting for the one that's going to get lynched already. Okay.

The original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town, I wasn't able to remove my vote due to some problems irl (my power supply, do you remember?).

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.

This is the most inconvenient time ever

Anyway, my bet this day was to vote you, but I'm 100% sure now, thanks for kinda fakeclaim, Mr. Mafia Cop. Well played, until now~

Vote: Raging Bully

K.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Is that all? will you only reply to the first two sentences? Please, everybody knows scum doesn't read properly. Even your short reply has big flaws.

Raging Bull wrote:

Im sure you are al waiting for me. Sorry. Ill post some now

Lol. Okay.

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 1

Looks rolefishing to me. Blatantly asking if hes cop. Then you still try to convince him to vote/stay on nyquill .

When did I tried to convince him? Quote and link please.

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"

Raging Bull wrote:

Quote 2

What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it.

Repeating myself and bolding what you didn't read

DakeDekaane wrote:

And explained why would be beneficial to ask for cop with a guilty result, I didn't asked randomly, just those who were sure of his votes, like fart with Nyquill and Kanye with you.

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.

Btw, you enumerated the quotes wrong, I'd recommend you to calm yourself before replying, you hurried too much making this last move and you're losing the game because that, after all that advantage you had *sigh*

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll answer DD without quotes at work, but in order. Takes too much time fixing on phone.

*sigh*

Both of us know my alignment, also yours, and we know you're lying, please just give up, we all know you're scum now.

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.


Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.

I... I'll get back to this (exam tomorrow).

SaigonAlice wrote:

do we kill someone yet

what the fuck

EDIT: Deleted the random guy's post.

Quoting is painful, but well, this is being fun, sad for you because I won't give the game to Bullies :3

Raging Bull wrote:

No you didn't hammer, yet you did have an intent to hammer him if anyone else could convince you to believe he was mafia, which wouldn't even be much. You didn't convince me. You were trying to convince people that Nyquill was scum. Early vote with a weak reasoning. Why I was prodding Nyquill. Don't want him to defend himself? I just thought it was funny how you said scum doesn't read yet Nyquill already posted what he thought about what happened. Stating you think you know what you are doing. Then past this, you got pretty lucky with fart and having the little argument finding a cop. which is funny since he claimed VT.

Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.

Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.

Oh, you're giving up?

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.

I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.

Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.

And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"

You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.

I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.

Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.

Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?

It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.

Also I have to ask you something: Why did you decided to say I'm scum, why not Rantai? why not Hika? why not fartownik? Why did you scum kill Nyquill and not me, why not fartownik?

Oh crap th last url tag was for this
p/2369118

Also fartownik, why you voted Hika?

Alright, one of you is clearly lying.

I voted Hika to check if this is not just a play between you two. If you were both scum you'd vote Hika and the game would end :s This means one of you is scum and one of you is not. Also by this I'm 90% sure that Hika is the 2nd scum, because if not her then Rantai, and I doubt he is.

The main question is obviously which one of you is lying. I guess we will decide it tommorrow (or you, because it's high likely that I will die tonight if we lynch Hika, I guess Rantai will be able to judge it by himself if I'm not there).

Well, the only questions I can ask right now:
@Dake: How would you convince me that you're town and RB is scum?
@RB: How would you convince me that you're town and Dake is scum?

I'll try to answer much as I can before work.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Quoting is painful, but well, this is being fun, sad for you because I won't give the game to Bullies :3

Yes, yes, and im not bully.

Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
I meant in as, you didn't just try to convince me, you tried convincing everyone else.
1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
Sorry, I don't truly agree with aggressiveness when it's the first post of the day and it's a vote. It's more of putting someone in l-2 for me.
2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
If you truly agreed, you wouldn't care about the prod.
3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
I don't get this. I asked basically asked why did you ask Nyquill to post his thoughts and you say "I didn't trust anyone at that moment"? So you ask him again? Sorry, I really don't get this one at all.
4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
Yes you did, then you went for Kanye because of how scummy he went since he was even easier lynch.
5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.
I said it time and time again. I don't know he's 100% town.

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.

Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.
Or perhaps you didn't know what to say yet and ignored it until I brought it up again.

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.

Oh, you're giving up?
No, there are nice people over the internet that if one person is correct, they will admit defeat instead of going on and on. Here you are correct and I will no need to extend the discussion about him.

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.

I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
Now stop using that against me.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.

Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.
And somehow, he magically disappears forever until L-1. Why vote someone who discuss vs someone who doesn't?

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.

And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.
Yet nothing in this post reads "Tell us something Pizzicato"

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"

You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill
Wait did I? I was saying I was trying to convince me/everyone above?

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.

I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?
Okay at this point we are on two different pages I think. I'm asking why are you asking someone to claim with guilty result. Then you post something without cop equated into it. Can you at least bold me the quote part? Because all I'm reading is who is scum and who is not based on what you wrote.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.

Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.
But, I'm not.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.

Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?

It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.
I told you how fart is probably thinking im scum.
Also I have to ask you something: Why did you decided to say I'm scum, why not Rantai? why not Hika? why not fartownik? Why did you scum kill Nyquill and not me, why not fartownik?

Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.

Also

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

I think that's all. Not sure if I missed some.

Also again. That was risky gambit. If DD and I were scum, Rantai sure would be mad.

DD was scum in LoL

My playstyle is usually the same. I don't vote for someone unless I'm pretty sure they are scum. Minus 5 man odd role cause that shit was gay. And I think one reason why I haven't been killed yet is because I was suspicious by quite a few people. I don't think mafia would try to target someone who is suspicious. They would rather go for someone else less suspicious by town instead. If you do need more convincing, I'll do it later because

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

incase DD cannot read it.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Edit: Fix'd typo, thanks Dake

Sakura wrote:

Ranta

*giggles*

Yes, entertain me you Bully.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, yes, and im not bully.

>Raging BULL.
Ok. But leaving that aside, we both know you're the bully.

Raging Bull wrote:

Oh, the underlined is quite contradicting of what you're writing in this same post later, gonna mark it for you.
I meant in as, you didn't just try to convince me, you tried convincing everyone else.
Convince you to vote Nyquill? Where did I do that? Please, read all the sentences, not just those that you want to read.

1. Weak reasoning? Why is aggresively voting someone a weak reason to vote that person?
Sorry, I don't truly agree with aggressiveness when it's the first post of the day and it's a vote. It's more of putting someone in l-2 for me.
L-2, you mean when I unvoted? is really make the day last longer to do a well-based discussion bad for you?

2. I want him to defend himself, I said it in the previous post you linked. For who else I'd write "Please explain yourself"?
If you truly agreed, you wouldn't care about the prod.
You wanted to settle the things as fast as you could.

3. I didn't trust anyone at that moment.
I don't get this. I asked basically asked why did you ask Nyquill to post his thoughts and you say "I didn't trust anyone at that moment"? So you ask him again? Sorry, I really don't get this one at all.
As town, I didn't know who were in the same side as me, and who were scum, it's not easy to trust in some words, not for me, and still wanted to read more from everyone.

4. Because I know what I were doing. Sadly Kanye didn't help too much.
Yes you did, then you went for Kanye because of how scummy he went since he was even easier lynch.
Easier? Kanye just got 3 votes, Rantai's and mine, and before the day ended, fartownik's, I don't think that was an easy lynch as you say.

5. You're very smart don't you? If anybody else says you, "I'm town", would you believe it? Obviously yes, because you know who are town.
I said it time and time again. I don't know he's 100% town.
So if you don't know he's 100% town, why are you bringing I asked him if he was cop?

Raging Bull wrote:

You forget that you needed a reminder first? Perhaps you forgot my quote is BEFORE your answer? AFTER I reminded you? Silly scum.

Because you weren't smart enough to catch the message.
Or perhaps you didn't know what to say yet and ignored it until I brought it up again.
I didn't ignore it as you can see, just spat a condensed result for you.

Raging Bull wrote:

Fair enough. He did label himself as scum by tossing WIFOM around everywhere.

Oh, you're giving up?
No, there are nice people over the internet that if one person is correct, they will admit defeat instead of going on and on. Here you are correct and I will no need to extend the discussion about him.
Ok, point for me then.

Raging Bull wrote:

Magic didn't happen. You already knew. The extra comment was just unnecessary, but felt like adding it in to make you look more town.

I didn't know, it's just that I was too sure about my judging on him, but you know, what is this fluff post you do after me? How convenient that the day ended for you, don't you think? I'll tell you something, everyone that makes active lurking is on my eye.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.
Now stop using that against me.
Don't get mad please, I understood, but still is curious for me, can't I be curious?.

Raging Bull wrote:

I had my own reasons for voting him. Inactivity. Mafia tends to lurk a lot. But not only that, you just jump on bandwagon despite the fact you suspected someone else already. Why the hell would you not vote for someone you are suspicious? So sheeping okay.

Inactivity? are you sure? You just joined the wagon with a cheap excuse trying to make you look town.
And somehow, he magically disappears forever until L-1. Why vote someone who discuss vs someone who doesn't?
Because you saw a nice opportunity of jumping onto him without making you look suspicious, and grabbing some link with fartownik.

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes, but did you read? I'm not talking about removing your vote or anything. I was asking why vote for him if you just commented on us rushing to D2 by voting him.

And I'll repeat again: the original purpose on this vote was putting pressure on Pizzicato, to see if he said something that could make him look town.
Yet nothing in this post reads "Tell us something Pizzicato"
What post are you talking about? I voted Pizzicato here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2353294

Raging Bull wrote:

Teehee, you can have this one. I read it as " If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible" and did not notice "You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions"

You say I was convincing Nyquill above and now you accept that I didn't, even that doesn't look like an argument to convince someone to vote Nyquill
Wait did I? I was saying I was trying to convince me/everyone above?
That in any moment I didn't try to convince you to vote Nyquill, above you say I did, and here that I didn't.

Raging Bull wrote:

I'll repeat what I said. What are you saying? It was rantai who said to claim with guilty result, not you. You never asked for it
And if you actually read, you never did mention AT ALL in that quote about a cop. So I asked for a reason why you keep rolefishing for a cop and you give me an explanation of your reasoning of who is scum WITHOUT a cop in the equation.

I'll explain you again. If you're totally sure about voting someone for no apparent reason, there are two cases: scum trying to lynch a townie or a cop witha guilty result. Did I link this?
Okay at this point we are on two different pages I think. I'm asking why are you asking someone to claim with guilty result. Then you post something without cop equated into it. Can you at least bold me the quote part? Because all I'm reading is who is scum and who is not based on what you wrote.
My bad, copied the wrong link, I meant this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2364159

Raging Bull wrote:

Yes. We know you're lying. No one knows except us. Why are you putting it all on me? No thanks.

Because I know you're lying and I will prove it.
But, I'm not.
Yes, you are, your acussations lacks of basis.

Raging Bull wrote:

Also it took me a while to notice, but I love how you killed almost everyone who isn't suspicious of me. Rantai and Hika still is. Fart is probably reading me more as scum now.

Because that is your plan, isn't it? You just want your scumbuddy stays hidden.

I'll quote this for reference, with some notes

Rantai wrote:

Me(Rantai): Nyquill - RB - fart
Fart: Nyquill - Kayne - DD
Kayne: Nyquill - RB
Nyquill: fart - Kayne
RB: Nyquill - DD
DD: Nyquill - RB - fart
Hika: Nyquill - ?

It's fun how fart doesn't suspect from RB and the rest does (Hika stated he suspects RB [url]here[/url], maybe distancing from you). Hika is null for everyone, I think.
I told you how fart is probably thinking im scum.
Probably.

Also I have to ask you something: Why did you decided to say I'm scum, why not Rantai? why not Hika? why not fartownik? Why did you scum kill Nyquill and not me, why not fartownik?

Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.

Also

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

I think that's all. Not sure if I missed some.


Also again. That was risky gambit. If DD and I were scum, Rantai sure would be mad.

DD was scum in LoL

My playstyle is usually the same. I don't vote for someone unless I'm pretty sure they are scum. Minus 5 man odd role cause that shit was gay. And I think one reason why I haven't been killed yet is because I was suspicious by quite a few people. I don't think mafia would try to target someone who is suspicious. They would rather go for someone else less suspicious by town instead. If you do need more convincing, I'll do it later because

God damn, I have work. Jesus. Why can you not understand that.

incase DD cannot read it.

Yes, quotes got messed. Better using color codes next time. And I read, I won't pressure the bully anymore as he will bully me.

And for this.

Raging Bull wrote:

Because cop. And I don't know. Ask yourself.

You're wrong. You are trying to make me look scum due to Kanye's mislynch. You didn't kill me just for the sake of put suspicious on me. You haven't been killed because you're not the cop, not the town cop.

I'm pretty sure you will misunderstand this and bring it as the top scumslip, but I don't care because I expected this from you, but didn't happened, I have to say you that if I were mafia, I'd kill potential cop menaces instead an inactive player that rarely talks, as it'd be a free win as there's no confirmed towns and scum is still hidden. Bad move from your part, you tried to follow what fartownik posted here right?
Claiming cop doesn't save you when you have almost all FoS on you. You should know it, I did it in LoL game and we lost.

@fartownik: I have my answer ready, I'll post it when RB post his. I think he'll try to counter mine as his convincement. For now just read the exchange between RB and me, if you're truly town, I'm confident you will find who is lying by doing that.

Fixed quote
-Sakura

LOL, put wrong name in last quote, it was Raging Bull. daaaaaamn :I