Mafiamaster wrote:

Easy~
00:20:93 - Suggestion: Have it end on a white tick. Not exactly sure what you are referring to.

Hard~
00:34:62 (4) - Add a clap Y did I forget? Fixed
00:50:75 (3) - Move forward on the red tick instead. Fixed

Lunatic~
00:24:94 (2) - Suggestion: Move to the red tick instead. Done

whymeman wrote:

Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Detailed Modding v.4.5 Go~

Osz. File Check (Done)

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Video: No
SB (Story Board): No
Custom Skin: No
Background: Yes
[Current] Size: 2.59 MB / 10.00 MB
Source: No (Please add in the Source to all difficulties.) I am not sure if I should put touhou as the source for the song since this is a remix, and I have seen many other people putting sources on other touhou maps. I will put one on if other people ask me to, but none for now. Thanks for your opinion though.
Tags: Yes

[Easy] (Done)

SPOILER

Timing (BPM / Offset): 172.000 / 91 ms (Sounds okay so far, but maybe 1 ms less would work a bit better?)
[Currently] with double BPM: No
[Currently] with altered timing sections: No
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 2 / 1.50 (This is quite fast for an "easy" difficulty...)
Distance Snap Average: x0.5 + Manual Spacing
[Current] Objects: 60 ( 34 Circles / Sliders 24 / 2 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 155
[Current] Max Score: 124,750
[Current] Star Rating: 2.32
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.4
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.1
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.4

00:12:64 (2) - This slider really stands out. It doesn't seem to connect to the song in a good way and that could make it confusing with moving to the next note.
00:13:69 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - The spacing here looks a bit uneven.
00:24:85 (1,2) - ^
00:25:73 (3) - I could understand if this was going with the lyrics, but in a way this is setup, it feels like it stands out a bit.
00:28:52 (2,3) - These notes don't "connect" with the flow of the beats.
00:33:57 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I thought there wasn't supposed to be any jumps for "easy" difficulties?

Notes: Errr.... you might want to remap this a bit. Honestly, it feels like it was a bit thrown together. Its like this map is trying to play like a [Normal] and [Easy] at the same time but you end up with [Normsy]? Make sure to keep the flow of the beats stable and the spacing in order. I am going to remap this diff entirely, so hopefully next attmept I won't have these problems.

[Hard] (Done)

SPOILER

Timing (BPM / Offset): 172.000 / 91 ms (Sounds okay so far, but maybe 1 ms less would work a bit better?)
[Currently] with double BPM: No
[Currently] with altered timing sections: No
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 2 / 2.20
Distance Snap Average: x1.3 + Manual Spacing
[Current] Objects: 182 ( 148 Circles / Sliders 33 / 1 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 256
[Current] Max Score: 1,127,090
[Current] Star Rating: 4.87
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.6
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.1
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.6

Misc. Note: Please remove the countdown. It really doesn't fit with how the map stars off...

00:02:18 (1,2) - These notes are against the beat, not with it. Made it fit the lyrics.
00:04:80 (6,7,8,9) - ^ Changed slightly.
00:30:35 (12) - Bottomed out of the grid.... Fixed
......... The rest of the map has a issue with note placement (around 80%) of it). Remapped it in a nicer fashion.

Notes: Well.... the map layout looks kinda messy and also hard to keep track off. There are places in the map where the notes could be set up more evenly than feeling randomly placed. You may want to concider remapping this difficulty some cause it plays quite rough.

[Lunatic] (Done)

SPOILER

Timing (BPM / Offset): 172.000 / 91 ms (Sounds okay so far, but maybe 1 ms less would work a bit better?)
[Currently] with double BPM: No
[Currently] with altered timing sections: No
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 2 / 2.40
Distance Snap Average: x0.7 + Manual Spacing
[Current] Objects: 311 ( 244 Circles / Sliders 65 / 2 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 405
[Current] Max Score: 3,130,474
[Current] Star Rating: 4.92
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.4 (Lower than [Hard]?) Supposed to be that way.
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.1
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.7

Misc. Note: Please remove the countdown. It really doesn't fit with how the map stars off...

00:02:18 (1,2) - These notes are against the beat, not with it. Made it fit the lyrics.
00:04:80 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Changed slightly.
00:06:28 (7,1) - Broken link in the stream. (I can understand this is intentional, but make sure to test it carefully otherwise, you'll end up with huge complaints later.) Thanks for the warning, but I 'm not going to change it for now.
00:06:89 (4,1) - ^
00:07:67 (8,1) - ^
00:08:28 (4,1) - ^
00:09:07 (8,1) - ^
00:09:68 (4,1) - ^
00:10:46 (8,1) - ^
00:34:18 (8,1) - ^
00:34:88 (8,1) - ^
00:35:49 (4,1) - ^
00:36:19 (4,1) - ^
00:36:97 (8,1) - ^
00:37:67 (8,1) - ^
00:38:46 (6,1) - ^
00:39:42 (7,1) - ^
00:40:03 (4,1) - ^
00:40:73 (4,1) - ^
00:41:51 (8,1) - ^
00:42:21 (8,1) - ^
00:42:82 (4,1) - ^
00:50:75 (3) - This sounds like it hits 1/4 early, and it this supposed to be on the blue timing mark or the red timing mark? Fixed

Notes: Well, all I can say is to make sure to double check the map to see that it plays okay. The jumps on the end feels a bit odd to me but its better to have someone give a better opinion about it.

Overall: Well, the map itself may need some more work before pushing it to be ranked later on. I'm really not sure about how [Easy] is set up. Its not "newplayer friendly" as far as I see it. Even if it is ment to show them a bit of how advanced maps plays, its pointless if they can't grasp the beats or keep up properly. Not trying to sound mean, but just explaining my concern you might want to concider. Also, try to concider how the lyrics are going with the beat. Not every word can stick with the flow of the song to your favor. Well, sure this map can work out to be ranked so i'll drop my star(s) in then.

eee wrote:

something terribly went wrong with the offset, or else I think it did
since I should have to do so, correct offset I got was 82 Sry eee, I changed the mp3 twice today so the offset changed too, so I can't use the offset you suggested.

ALL MODS DONE WITH OFFSET: 82

eeedit: I was unaware 0_o had offset 80, might as well use that. pick out the mods manually with slightlly different offsets.

[Normal]
nothin'

[Hard]
00:24:93 (2) - move 1/4 later, or place a note on 00:25:023 it just feels out of place for me
00:28:86 (6) - 1/4 later?

[Insane]
00:28:86 (6) - same as hard? 1/4 later
00:31:47 (4,5) - I don't like the spacing here. You CAN new combo (5)

All done including the new combo.

insane was, insane
star, k?

0_o wrote:

Easy
The sliders are a little fast.. much better Easy btw
00:32:27 (1) - Tricky spinner for Easy, particularily with the note directly after it. I would just make a slider or something instead Changed to a circle because I couldn't think of a slider that could fit into the symmetrical pattern.
01:04:36 (1) - End on previous white tick want to stay Fixed

Hard
00:02:19 (1,2) - I don't really see the point in mapping this I wanted to map the lyrics here, so I'm am going to keep this unless other ppl complain.
00:04:37 (5) - New combo added one to 6
00:04:89 (2,3,4,5) - This doesn't feel natural at all Tried to fix
00:24:77 (x) - Add a beat? I think it would be confusing if I start randomly mapping to the beat.
00:44:83 (1,2,3,4) - Unintuitive, stick to red/white ticks here Since the lyrics for the rest of the song follow this pattern, no change for now. I understand the concern that the lyrics are unintuitive to follow, so if I get more complaints or think of a solution I like, I will change this.
The rest of this still seems jagged. I know you want to map to the vocals, but the vocals are very odd compared to the beat of the song, and it just feels weird to play, especially if you have never heard the song before.

Lunatic
This the only difficulty with a countdown, intentional? Sry, forgot to remove it.
00:02:19 (1,2) - Same with Hard. Also it makes the countdown sound weird if you are keeping it in. Same as hard.
00:05:50 (7) - This slider is pretty hidden under previous combobursts Fixed.
00:51:81 (1) to 01:01:23 (4) - You are going in a clockwise circle the whole time here, it feels kinda weird.
Yeah the second half still feels jagged here. Fixed.

There has been improvement though, *

Jeffro wrote:

[Easy]
00:32:27 (5) - clap+finish maybe? Fixed.

[Hard]
00:04:89 (1) - I don't like this one. Its either the silent treatment of the whistle at the end. Fixed.
00:44:83 (1,2,3,4) - This doesn't fit in entirely. Tried to fix.

Love song + map. Great job!

Starred!

DeathxShinigami wrote:

[Easy]
Overall diff feels a tad high for an easy but than again no normal so eh. Sure, lowered overall diff one notch.

[Normal]
Fine

[Lunatic]
Really stream heavy but fine as well.

osumike wrote:

[Insane]
00:26:69 (7) - I was expecting sliders such as these to end 2/4 later to match the vocals a bit better, but it's just a thought, you could keep it as is. Fixed. Surprised I missed this one.

I love the streams and I'm looking forward to watching the replays of people doing them Starred.

x3ns0r wrote:

alright..i got the following

offset > 5.938 1ms offset change...

on every diff the 1st hitcircle is on blue move it to the white on the --> This doesn't work so well because the white tick does not fall on the words, so this is not changing.

some sliders end on blue ticks after applying the new offset just fix those up a bit

Hanyuu wrote:

why is this a remix o.o

osumike wrote:

00:15:53 (9) - Sorry I missed this. (2/4 later as well) Done

Yes wrote:

easy
00:32:27 (5) - maybe make this into a slider? Probably going to stay as a circle for symmetry reasons.
i felt slider speed was too high for easy mode

hard
00:49:02 (6) - i think it would sound nice if you make this slider end at 00:49:71 and add notes at 00:49:89 and 00:50:06 I purposely wanted to avoid mapping the words in between the louder lyrics in this difficulty.

lunatic
00:06:46 (1) - i don't like how spacing is different when there's a new combo T__T i think its confusing but maybe its just me I like the small jumps, so this is not changing.
00:11:34 (1) - since you left extra space between every other new combo, maybe on this one, too?
00:05:85 (1) - ^ Since these two were the beginning and ends, I didn't want to have the jumps, but I might reconsider if enough people ask.
00:54:95 (1) - i think since this is a triplet, the spacing should be consistent Since this is also the start of the next set of lyrics, there is a jump here.
01:06:11 (1) - maybe make this end at 01:06:80 instead? Supposed to follow the singer holding the word destiny, so I think the snapping is correct currently.



star! kero kero >___<

Yes wrote:

Sorry for not being able to give any helpful comments T__T

animask wrote:

[Hard]
00:02:18 (1) - Slightly offtimed...might consider retiming or removing the combo Removed.
00:05:41 (2) - You could start and end this on white ticks I like the way it follow the lyrics currently, so nothing changed.

[Lunatic]
00:02:18 (1) - Slightly offtimed...might consider retiming or removing the combo Removed.
00:54:95 (1) - Spacing feels a bit weird I sort of wanted the spacing this way, but if enough people ask, I will change it.

Lissette wrote:

Lunatic
Really lunatic
-I personally don't like the spacing between the streams combos
-The others part of the map it was hard to follow for me, 'cuz you follow sometimes the background voice and sometimes the main voice @.@ really confusing, imo..... try follow one voice at least in the same combo For the first part of the map I tried mapping the dominant lyrics, so I did switch between lyrics, but I thought the lyrics were easy enough to follow. If more people ask, I will change it. The ending I tried mapping the dominant lyrics unless only the less dominant lyrics were playing, so that part might be more confusing, but I think it was easy enough to follow also. As a result, I will change this also if more people want me to change it.

Hard
This have the same problem i mentioned with the "what voice you follow?" Same as above but only the first part applies.

Easy
Slider velocity to fast for easy, imo I thought it would be more fun with the higher speed, but I am not sure how others feel about this, so I want some more opinions on this.


Star

Remco32 wrote:

? - up to you/suggestion
(?) - not entirely sure myself

Easy
00:32:27 (5) - Make it a slider - 3x 1/1 (Three white ticks long) ? Made 1 that was 4 white ticks long.
00:49:02 (5) - ^ Done.
01:04:36 (1) - Remove the hitsound ?I sort of like the hitsound, but i do get your point, so I lowered the hitsound volume there.

Hard
00:05:50 (2) - Feels really off I agree, but I don't think changing the snapping makes it fit much better since she actually does start off the syllable softly. As a result, the syllable probably does start on the quarter note, but the softness gives you a delay. I am probably not going to change it unless someone has a good fix for it.
00:43:43 (1) - <3 Ty
00:49:02 (6) - Fully with whistle hitsounds ? Done
00:54:77 (6) - Add some whistles ? Done
01:00:18 (6) - ^ Done
01:05:76 (1) - Remove the hitsound ? Same as easy.

Lunatic
00:34:28 (8) - I don't like how the spacing is missing between combo',. although it's an Insane map Since that is the pattern of the map, I am probably not going to change it.
00:46:92 (4,1) - ^ ^
00:52:50 (4,1) - ^ ^
01:06:11 (1) - Remove the hitsound ? Same as easy.

Lizbeth wrote:

im with Lissette about the main and second voice.. is a bit confusing..
other than that: no technical problems
have a star!

Shinde wrote:

Hard
00:33:67 (1,2) - You should tune down the jumps around here, just imo though. One or two grids in on each side would be good. Made it slightly easier.
Nothing else really, I got used to the beat you used. This song's kinda hard first time through though for some reason.

Lunatic
I couldn't play this myself, streams killed me. I watched it with Auto, and it seems like there are a lot of erratic, rapid jumps. Ex. 00:46:92 (4,1) Just go through it and make sure you're okay with everything. Actually, when I look at it, this (4,1) thing happens 3 times after the example. This is my primary concern when I say erractic jumps. The jumps here happen every time a line of lyrics end end (when there is a new combo), and I wanted to map this part of the map with this style. As a result, this ending is not going to be changed.

Resnap notes? They seem to be a few ms off the lines, almost unnoticeable. Done.

Nothing to say about Easy ofc, played good.

Star from me.

EEeee wrote:

Easy
00:21:11 (4) - k this is kinda a jump, an easy one, but since this is the "easy diff" mind adding a new combo here, it wouldn't hurt Fixed.

Hard
00:26:171 - add a note here, add it along the stream Since I'm snapping to lyrics and I don't hear something here, I'm not going to change this.

Lunatic
00:29:31 (7,8,9) - make sure these are spaced, 7 seems go be a bit far imo Fixed, surprised I did not notice this sooner.

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Here's my mod

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Easy]
No problems found

[Hard]
00:04:71 (6) - To me it feels better with a beat here, but I'm not sure if it'd feel the same for you I wanted to follow the lyrics, so I did not want to put a beat here.
00:50:06 (7) - Note on the slider end here? I tried to follow one set of lyrics in this area, and I am afraid people will say it is more confusing if I add a note here. Still, I sort of like a note here, so I am going to wait for further opinions before changing it.
01:01:22 (7) - ^[/color] ^
No problems found

[Lunatic]
00:22:33 (12) - Maybe a note horizontally opposite of 00:21:28 (8) here? I wanted to follow the lyrics, so I did not want to put a beat here.
No problems found

Such a crazy [Lunatic] Starred

Alice Margatroid wrote:

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Tested and.. Woaah chaotic, don't know which song lyrics I must follow xDD But still awesome. Seriously. And the wallpaper is my old desktop wp too @__@ But talking about BG, both Cirno and Suwako are "singing" and their themes are both in the songs. so why only Suwako appears?

[attachment=1:0bf17]comboburst.png[/attachment:0bf17]
[attachment=0:0bf17]comboburstalternate.png[/attachment:0bf17]

Hope it will be helpful, but if you don't want to use one of them no matter~

Easy
It might be me but it feels like a normal, surely cause of slider velocity :/ But, no matter, I gues

Otherwise awesome <3 I love Silver Forest!!
here's a star but you highly deserve a bubble (something I can't give you btw)

Shulin wrote:

Nice map, my symmetry suggestions are directed where I noticed them most during gameplay, feel free to ignore all suggestions:

Easy

00:15:53 (4) - Add a finish with this clap? Done.
00:21:81 (3) - Whistle with the clap? Done.
00:49:02 (5) - ^ It didn't seem to fit for me, so no change here.

Nice difficulty.

Hard:

After playing Lunatic I think you should -1 the difficulty, imo it plays a little better like this and still qualifies as a hard. The map looks messy if I do this, so no change.

00:24:95 (1,2) - Raise these one square to be on the same line as 00:25:29 (3) Moved 3 down.
00:26:17 (6) - I can tell you were following the "oishii" bit, but I think this looks and plays better one tick right [red] I want to follow the lyrics, so no change here.
00:38:11 (2) - One square right for symmetry. This was not intended to be a straight line, so no change here.
00:47:62 (1) - One square left for symmetry. Fixed.
01:02:27 (4) - One square down. Supposed to be curved, so no change here.

Lunatic:

Omg at those sliders!

I'm not good a modding chaos, but it seems to work

Overall, they are all nice maps and you deserve a star!