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[web] New Place for "Previously known as ..." [added]

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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
Current Priority: +146
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni
There were already some threads complaining about the "Previously known as" in the profile. (For example t/107074/start=0)
If you change your username as a supporter with the function, you will get the "Previously known as ..." But if you're not a supporter and ask an admin to change your username, you won't get the "Previously known as ...". I don't know why, but that's not the main problem.

My idea is to put the "Previously known as" in a tool-tip that shows if you move your mouse over the username.




I know it's not that important, but I would be really glad if this gets changed. This is a site which explains better what I mean.

It's also a good idea to differentiate it a little in comparison to a name that hasn't been changed to make it easy to understand that you can hover over it. (Eg. Put an asterisk after changed names) (Thanks to Primula for this idea).

Primula's Idea
Last edited by Deni , edited 4 times in total.
Birdy
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Birdy
verbal support, as I don't have votes left
KonataN
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KonataN
that would be great, especially if your old name was something like "callofdutyisthebest" (no offense lel)
Stefan
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Stefan
Take my babies support.
Aurele
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Aurele
Omg, yes!!
[Maid] NekoRyo
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[Maid] NekoRyo
this is a very good Idea! :3
Enzo_old
195 posts
Joined October 2011
Enzo_old
support
Galkan
Global Moderator
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Galkan
Yes, please!
silmarilen
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Joined February 2010
silmarilen
no, then you cant see if someone used to have a different name by just going to their profile, i dont see in which way this would be an improvement other than looking a bit cleaner which is really unnecessary imo.
Aka
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Joined January 2012
Aka
better would be to remove this inscription for example after 1 year of changed nickname :o
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

silmarilen wrote:

no, then you cant see if someone used to have a different name by just going to their profile, i dont see in which way this would be an improvement other than looking a bit cleaner which is really unnecessary imo.
Well me and apparently some other users don't like the current position of the "Previously known as ...". You can still see their old usernames by moving your mouse over the name.

And as I mentioned before I know it's not that important but me and other users would be glad if this gets changed.

Aka- wrote:

better would be to remove this inscription for example after 1 year of changed nickname :o
They don't want to remove the "Previously known as ..." completely. (See old thread mentioned above)
Teara
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Teara

Deni wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

no, then you cant see if someone used to have a different name by just going to their profile, i dont see in which way this would be an improvement other than looking a bit cleaner which is really unnecessary imo.
Well me and apparently some other users don't like the current position of the "Previously known as ...". You can still see their old usernames by moving your mouse over the name.

And as I mentioned before I know it's not that important but me and other users would be glad if this gets changed.

Aka- wrote:

better would be to remove this inscription for example after 1 year of changed nickname :o
They don't want to remove the "Previously known as ..." completely. (See old thread mentioned above)
There is a reason why its there. It draws your attention.

Lets say I didn't log in for 6 months. I log in game, and I see this new person in my friends list, lets call him person x.. I go O.O, and open their profile, then I can see, aah its "y" thats now has the nickname "x". This will totally hide that, which defeats the purpose.

Aka- suggestion is a good one thou. Maybe after a year, it can be hidden like you suggested.
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

Teara wrote:

There is a reason why its there. It draws your attention.

Lets say I didn't log in for 6 months. I log in game, and I see this new person in my friends list, lets call him person x.. I go O.O, and open their profile, then I can see, aah its "y" thats now has the nickname "x". This will totally hide that, which defeats the purpose.
If this gets implemented and it would cause problems, a developer could just add to the changelog that the "Previously known as ..." will now show if you move your mouse over the username. No problem here.

Teara wrote:

Aka- suggestion is a good one thou. Maybe after a year, it can be hidden like you suggested.
I know this would be a good suggestion too, ... but:

Ephemeral wrote:

There's a reason this exists, and is only removed by request under extraordinary circumstances.
(t/107074/start=0 ; Page 3)

I don't think so.
Teara
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Teara
Deni, you seem to have misunderstood me.

What I meant was, after a year, the mouse-over username gets applied. But for visual, it has to be seen straight away, not everyone will know when hovering over the username will show old usernames.
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni
Well then the inactive user could just read the changelog and see that the "Previously known as ..." and what else has changed.

Poor Example

I mean inactive users might don't know for example that you can spectate people, that are spectating someone. Still it got added.
Birdy
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Birdy

Teara wrote:

Deni, you seem to have misunderstood me.

What I meant was, after a year, the mouse-over username gets applied. But for visual, it has to be seen straight away, not everyone will know when hovering over the username will show old usernames.
teara the nice!!!!!! :-)
Teara
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Teara

Deni wrote:

Well then the inactive user could just read the changelog and see that the "Previously known as ..." and what else has changed.

Poor Example

I mean inactive users might don't know for example that you can spectate people, that are spectating someone. Still it got added.
If you haven't played for a extended period of time, chances are very good you wont read that, since it will be way down the list. Also the spectator example you give is two different things.

A nickname is what you are known to the community as. It's really confusing having someone in your friends list and you don't know the name and if you can't see it straight away via profile, you might think its a glitch in the system and remove said friend, causing confusing. So I don't think this will be ever changed.
Kurokami
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Kurokami
Well, after a few years, when most online players are newbie (to the old ones), probably already well known function (I mean the mouse over). So why not?

The old ones will probably know this from Changelog anyways..
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

Teara wrote:

A nickname is what you are known to the community as. It's really confusing having someone in your friends list and you don't know the name and if you can't see it straight away via profile, you might think its a glitch in the system and remove said friend, causing confusing. So I don't think this will be ever changed.
It's not a big problem. If you really don't find the new "Previously known as ..." you could just ask the user, like "Hey, I was a really long time inactive and I had you on my friends list but I wondered who you are, I don't remember your username."

Kurokami wrote:

Well, after a few years, when most online players are newbie (to the old ones), probably already well known function (I mean the mouse over). So why not?

The old ones will probably know this from Changelog anyways..
I agree!
Sentient_DELETED
Sentient_DELETED
Support~
Hayden_old
Hayden_old
a nickname is a nickname you can edit however you want its a nick name its not that important
[Luanny]
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[Luanny]

Hayden wrote:

a nickname is a nickname you can edit however you want its a nick name its not that important
whaaaat

btw support \o
Kitsunemimi
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Kitsunemimi
Yes support~
Vmx
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Vmx
pls
Wishy
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Wishy
I agree that the "previously known as" thing is awful. It is of course necessary yet it could be a little bit hidden somewhere else...
yakimikan
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yakimikan

Teara wrote:

There is a reason why its there.
I agree with Teara

This shouldn't be implemented.
Natsu
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Natsu
I support this since i change my nickname cuz i dont want the old one show in my profile since this is annoying:
Previously known as --Natsu_

So take my stars o3o
theramdans
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theramdans
I think most, or some people wont bother reading the changelog, if so , they wont know if this is implemented
and the "previously known as <oldnamegoeshere> " is in the right place as it is :)
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

theramdans wrote:

I think most, or some people wont bother reading the changelog, if so , they wont know if this is implemented
Well it's their own problem if they are too lazy to read the changelog. That's not a valid argument against this feature request.
deadbeat
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deadbeat
i'd rather have a clear easy to see way of seeing "previously know as" instead of having it hidden like that
Primula_old
Primula_old

Teara wrote:

There is a reason why its there. It draws your attention.

Lets say I didn't log in for 6 months. I log in game, and I see this new person in my friends list, lets call him person x.. I go O.O, and open their profile, then I can see, aah its "y" thats now has the nickname "x". This will totally hide that, which defeats the purpose.

Aka- suggestion is a good one thou. Maybe after a year, it can be hidden like you suggested.
You know.. you could simply.. ask who they are? (kidding)
I do agree for how its intended like you explained, it's nice to be informed of who they previously were in case they never told you or something, but I feel in that way it should only be information of which is available to mutual friends (maybe just E-Mail those people with "X has changed his/her name to Y". I don't really see why strangers would need to know who you previously were.

For sake of privacy (when someone wishes to change their name because it's similar to their real name, or because someone they're avoiding knows them by that name etc), I think it's a good idea to allow 'Previously known as' to be optionally shown to public.

I don't really like OP's idea of having it hidden with a hover function, at least differentiate it a little in comparison to a name that hasn't been changed to make it easy to understand that you can hover over it. (Eg. Put an asterisk after changed names)
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

Primula wrote:

[...] but I feel in that way it should only be information of which is available to mutual friends (maybe just E-Mail those people with "X has changed his/her name to Y". I don't really see why strangers would need to know who you previously were.
That would be a good idea.

Primula wrote:

For sake of privacy (when someone wishes to change their name because it's similar to their real name, or because someone they're avoiding knows them by that name etc), I think it's a good idea to allow 'Previously known as' to be optionally shown to public.
They will only remove the "Previously known as ..." under extraordinary circumstances. I don't think they ever will add an option to hide the "Previously known as ..." 100%.

Ephemeral wrote:

There's a reason this exists, and is only removed by request under extraordinary circumstances.

Primula wrote:

I don't really like OP's idea of having it hidden with a hover function, at least differentiate it a little in comparison to a name that hasn't been changed to make it easy to understand that you can hover over it. (Eg. Put an asterisk after changed names)
I also like this idea, might add this to the request later.
Ekaru
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Ekaru

deadbeat wrote:

i'd rather have a clear easy to see way of seeing "previously know as" instead of having it hidden like that
^This. I actually check people's profiles on a regular basis solely to see if they're somebody I know but with a changed name. I highly doubt that's unusual or strange behavior. Having to hover actually adds quite a few seconds to such a task, and while it's just a few seconds each time it probably wouldn't take long for it to start pissing me off.

If people mostly did sensible, subtle namechanges I would have no problem with this request, but unfortunately some osu! users insist on making some... strange... namechanges.
Babukus
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Joined June 2011
Babukus

deadbeat wrote:

i'd rather have a clear easy to see way of seeing "previously know as" instead of having it hidden like that
It is fine like this, it's easy to see if someone changed and who they were before and isn't too big or messing up anything, so why change it?
Instead of hovering over you'd just look and see it. Some people don't even change and would be easier to know they don't change by not showing the "previously known as" as it does currently instead of having to hover over.

Ekaru wrote:

Having to hover actually adds quite a few seconds to such a task, and while it's just a few seconds each time it probably wouldn't take long for it to start pissing me off.
I honestly don't mind the "previously known as" right now because I started with my previous name and I started to know people with my previous name. Well, in my case it's still my DA name so I'm still associated with it.

I understand that some people do not want their previous names to be seen for various reasons.
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

Babukus wrote:

Instead of hovering over you'd just look and see it. Some people don't even change and would be easier to know they don't change by not showing the "previously known as" as it does currently instead of having to hover over.
I added Primula's suggestion to the request now, so that there's a little asterisk behind changed usernames.
theowest
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theowest
The little box you're talking about is a tool-tip, how about you write that instead. :)
Saten
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Saten
You won't be able to see the previous name if you were to use a tablet/smartphone/etc to browse osu! though.
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

theowest wrote:

The little box you're talking about is a tool-tip, how about you write that instead. :)
Thanks, done. ;)
Papysh
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Papysh
Good idea lel
Stefan
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Stefan

Saten wrote:

You won't be able to see the previous name if you were to use a tablet/smartphone/etc to browse osu! though.
I can't as example scroll down some User Pages if they are too long on my android phone. I find that this is an "issue" - which isn't even worth to call it as issue - where people can live with it.
silmarilen
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silmarilen
you know dksslqj maps and skystar maps? those are the old names of mappers, i found out who they are because it says "Previously known as skystar" on Amamiya Yuko's profile clearly in view.
if it were a tool-tip i would never have found out because who would hover their mouse over every single person's name just to see if they used to have an old name?
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni

Deni wrote:

It's also a good idea to differentiate it a little in comparison to a name that hasn't been changed to make it easy to understand that you can hover over it. (Eg. Put an asterisk after changed names) (Thanks to Primula for this idea).

Primula's Idea
I just took a white asterisk to show this suggestion. It could also be another color or symbol if it's not noticeable.
Stefan
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Stefan

silmarilen wrote:

you know dksslqj maps and skystar maps? those are the old names of mappers, i found out who they are because it says "Previously known as skystar" on Amamiya Yuko's profile clearly in view.
Well, Amamiya Yuko still calls his Diffs as "Skystar". I personally find it not good since it has less relation to the old name. Also because newer people won't recognize the Mapper behind of the Diff.

silmarilen wrote:

if it were a tool-tip i would never have found out because who would hover their mouse over every single person's name just to see if they used to have an old name?
Doesn't peppy annouce every new feature detailed? I remember he does. And if people are too lazy to take some seconds to read that, why should this be our problem tbh?

And yeah, if people are too.. well, naive to go with their cursor on the newer Name then add a symbol to say "Hey, this person had a older name." At least people will go on this symbol since it's the curiosity to check what meaning this symbol might have. After some time everyone will get that.
silmarilen
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silmarilen
and when there is a symbol there to indicate the person used to have a different name, how exactly is that more convenient than the current system?
Stefan
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Stefan
From cosmetic sight. There is actually nothing against it? Or is there a real good argument why this idea would be bad? To remove it (how some thought) is a bad Idea, indeed. But to hide it and to give via symbol a hint that you can see there the old name is a good and creative idea. And as I said, I want good and reasonable reasons why this wouldn't work well or/and it's bad.
Kuro
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Kuro
Added?

deadbeat
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deadbeat
well i'll be damned. guess i can mark this as added. though i think there should be at least some sign or something showing the the username has been changed. like an * or something :(
Deni
Topic Starter
Deni
Thanks to peppy for adding this, and thank you guys for your support!
Stefan
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Stefan
Won-der-ful! :D
jemhuntr
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jemhuntr
i think the tooltip should show up even on posts tho (not just on the user's profile)
theowest
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theowest

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

i think the tooltip should show up even on posts tho (not just on the user's profile)
that's a pretty decent idea.
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