20:24 Metro: spacing is always 1x
20:24 Metro: I don't need to check it right
20:24 Frostmourne: yea
20:24 Frostmourne: maybe just some complicated rhythm
20:24 Frostmourne: but I tried to follow vocal
20:24 Frostmourne: on every point as much as possible
20:25 Metro: that's fine I saw how it's mapped
20:25 Frostmourne: it's what I keep in mind it's music game
20:25 Metro: personally
20:25 Metro: I believe that
20:25 Metro: easy and normal diff
20:25 Metro: are just introductory to the game
20:25 Metro: so in easy and normal diff
20:26 Metro: which shouldn't have a difficulty gap
20:26 Metro: my standards are no return sliders with more than 1 return because players will fuck up
20:26 Metro: and if possible no stacking at all
20:26 Frostmourne: your 1st standard
20:26 Frostmourne: is same as me
20:26 Frostmourne: I won't make any that return slider
20:26 Frostmourne: if it's not long enough
20:26 Frostmourne: I mean when it's long, it's easier to read
20:26 Metro: yeah I saw all return sliders are with 1 return
20:27 Metro: so they're ok
20:27 Frostmourne: but for stacking , sometimes I struggled to find out solutions
20:27 Frostmourne: better positions, somehow I don't want to stack though
20:27 Frostmourne: it's confusing
20:27 Metro: if you don't want to stack
20:27 Metro: you can abuse sliders
20:27 Metro: 00:23:406 (4,5) -
20:27 Metro: convert to slider
20:28 Frostmourne: for 1/2 stack, do you think it's ok ?
20:28 Frostmourne: like it can be guessed easier
20:28 Frostmourne: more than 1 beat stack
20:28 Frostmourne: because it's what people might be used to it
20:28 Metro: personally I don't agree with stacking anything
20:28 Metro: in easy normal
20:29 Metro: my reasoning is
20:29 Metro: ppl who are new to the game but new to rhythm games
20:29 Metro: will probably need to play easy
20:29 Frostmourne: yea
20:29 Metro: and ppl who have some experience in other games might just go straight to normal
20:29 Metro: so these two diffs should have no complexity at all
20:29 Metro: they're just meant to be introductory
20:29 Frostmourne: I get your point totally
20:29 Metro: when they want to get better they play hards
20:30 Frostmourne: hard is pleasant, Insane is somehow exhausting
20:30 Frostmourne: because it has no break , that's what I am worried
20:30 Metro: ok we'll see about insane later
20:30 Metro: can you work something in 00:23:406 (4,5) -
20:30 Frostmourne: it should be fine actually
20:30 Metro: just make a slider
20:31 Frostmourne: done
20:33 Metro: 00:36:237 (1,2,3) -
20:33 Metro: this pattern might be a bit too hard
20:34 Frostmourne: I'm thinking of another solution here too
20:34 Metro: I would make 1 2 a small slider
20:34 Metro: without connecting it to 3
20:34 Metro: 1-2 same slider as 3
20:35 Frostmourne: should be something like this ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764872
20:36 Metro: n
20:36 Metro: sec
20:36 Metro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764876
20:36 Metro: 00:38:767 (1,2) - small slider
20:37 Metro: 00:47:442 (1,2) - small slider
20:38 Frostmourne: done
20:38 Metro: 01:09:671 (3) - no return and 01:10:755 (1) - small slider
20:39 Metro: 01:17:984 (2) - convert to circle and 01:18:526 (3) - small slider
20:39 Metro: 01:29:550 (1) - convert to circle and 01:30:093 (2) - small slider
20:40 Metro: 01:33:888 (3) - no return and 01:34:792 (1) - small slider
20:40 Metro: no
20:40 Metro: forget it
20:40 Metro: next one can't do that
20:40 Metro: lemme think
20:41 Metro: well
20:41 Metro: you can do that and then stack will stay
20:41 Metro: it's a little bit less stacks that way
20:41 Metro: but the next one01:36:237 (6,7) -
20:41 Metro: can't do anything about it
20:41 Metro: must stay as it is to follow vocals
20:42 Frostmourne: I think people will learn
20:42 Frostmourne: because it's based by music
20:42 Metro: eah
20:42 Metro: 01:38:587 (3) - delete
20:42 Frostmourne: won't feel empty ?
20:42 Metro: and make 01:37:864 (2) - longer
20:42 Frostmourne: or end the slider at that circle
20:42 Frostmourne: ohhh
20:42 Metro: you added difficulty there
20:42 Metro: as in your insanes
20:42 Metro:
20:43 Frostmourne: done
20:43 Metro: when modding normal I always try to tone everything down
20:43 Metro: 01:50:876 (1) -
20:43 Metro: here
20:43 Metro: I know you didn't map right after spinner due to difficulty
20:43 Metro: which I agree
20:43 Metro: but maybe you could make spinner shorter
20:44 Metro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764887
20:44 Metro: end it in the tick I'm standing at
20:44 Metro: and then start mapping to the vocals?
20:45 Metro: somethign like this
20:45 Frostmourne: ehh..
20:45 Metro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764891
20:45 Metro: only look at top, didn't place object properly
20:45 Frostmourne: for that one , maybe it's the end of guitar and it has clash sound
20:45 Metro: you can remove clash sound
20:45 Frostmourne: so that's why I don't want to lose it
20:45 Frostmourne: somehow
20:46 Frostmourne: oh
20:46 Frostmourne: that might work
20:46 Frostmourne: let me try it
20:46 Metro: go
20:46 Frostmourne: ok
20:46 Frostmourne: it works
20:46 Frostmourne: done
20:47 Frostmourne: actually finish can start on the point you are standing too
20:47 Frostmourne: 01:57:924 (5) - done unstacking this btw
20:48 Metro: ok
20:48 Metro: after spinner
20:48 Metro: I would do this
20:48 Metro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764897
20:48 Metro: 01:57:924 (5) - unstack
20:48 Metro: move somewhere else
20:48 Metro: 02:01:177 (1,2) - convert to slider
20:49 Frostmourne: done
20:49 Metro: mmm
20:49 Metro: 02:20:334 (3) -
20:49 Metro: looking at this part
20:50 Metro: thinking that here we can't get out of circle+slider
20:50 Metro: but thinking that maybe
20:50 Metro: in this part and the ones before we couldn't get out
20:50 Metro: instead of stacking
20:50 Metro: we could have circle+slider but with ds 1.0
20:51 Frostmourne: all done
20:51 Metro: great
20:51 Metro: 02:26:478 (2) - here I'm concerned about flow
20:51 Metro: why not
20:51 Metro: ctrl+j
20:52 Frostmourne: fixed
20:53 Metro: this is what concerned me the most
20:53 Metro: 02:48:888 (1,2,3) -
20:53 Metro: first
20:53 Metro: I just noticed 3 has wrong spacing
20:54 Frostmourne: use 1 2 as a slider instead?
20:54 Frostmourne: and then 1.0x on 3 and 4
20:54 Metro: well
20:54 Metro: 1.0x on 3 and 4 yes
20:54 Metro: but not sure about 1 2 as slider
20:54 Metro: it's 2 1/2 circles
20:54 Metro: good to change style a little bit
20:54 Metro: seems that what bothered me is the spacing
20:55 Metro: 02:55:394 (2,3) -
20:55 Metro: convert to slider
20:55 Metro: 02:55:394 (2,3) - 02:58:647 (3,4) - 1.0 ds
20:56 Frostmourne: maybe
20:56 Frostmourne: keep stacking
20:56 Frostmourne: as 01:34:792 (1,2,3,4) - do?
20:56 Frostmourne: people might recognize it in this way
20:56 Frostmourne: and this is consistent
20:56 Frostmourne: just only this one
20:56 Frostmourne: I mean, the very end of the kiai
20:57 Metro: oh you left those stacked
20:57 Frostmourne: yea
20:57 Frostmourne: just only that
20:57 Frostmourne: others were done
20:57 Metro: its ok
20:57 Frostmourne: maybe it's what we should spice up
20:57 Frostmourne: just slightly
20:57 Metro: 03:04:068 (1,2,3) - I think this rhythm is too hard
20:57 Metro: this is what worried me
20:57 Frostmourne: I think so
20:57 Metro: I'd convert 2 3 to slider
20:57 Frostmourne: it's what didn't present through the song so far
20:57 Frostmourne: done
20:57 Metro: yup
20:58 Metro: 03:10:755 (2,3) - same
20:58 Metro: 03:23:587 (1) -
20:59 Metro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764923
20:59 Frostmourne: done
20:59 Metro: 03:27:562 (2,3,4,5) -
20:59 Metro: I would
20:59 Metro: 2 3 small slider 4 5 small slider with repeat
21:00 Metro: tail of 03:28:466 (5) - would be a circle
21:01 Metro: want picture?
21:02 Frostmourne: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764932
21:02 Frostmourne: this one alexs?
21:02 Metro: yes
21:04 Metro: 04:20:334 (4,5) - ds 1.0
21:04 Metro: and we're done
21:05 Frostmourne: done
21:06 Metro: update so I can take a look
21:06 Frostmourne: updated
21:07 Frostmourne: sorry alexs
21:07 Frostmourne: update again
21:07 Metro: 00:10:575 (2) -
21:07 Metro: missing a circle
21:07 Frostmourne: I did something wrong
21:07 Frostmourne: yea
21:07 Metro: it's alex btw
21:07 Frostmourne: forgot..
21:07 Frostmourne: I don't know
21:08 Frostmourne: why I got that "s"
21:08 Frostmourne: sry
21:08 Metro: np
21:08 Metro: ok circle still missing in this v
21:08 Metro: make sure u add it
21:09 Metro: 00:47:803 (2,3) - ds 1.0
21:10 Frostmourne: k
21:13 Metro: 04:07:683 (2,3) -
21:13 Frostmourne: hard right?
21:13 Metro: maybe the positioning of these 2 circles is boring
21:13 Metro: make them more rounded
21:13 Frostmourne: ohh
21:13 Metro: no
21:13 Metro: like 3 below 2
21:13 Metro: a bit more down
21:13 Metro: so it's curved
21:14 Metro: 04:09:309 (5,6) - ds 1.0
21:14 Metro: and done
21:15 *Metro is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/251446 Rita - Alicemagic ~TV animation ver.~ [regenz's Easy]]
21:15 Metro: 00:18:888 (2) - NO
21:15 Metro: 00:21:779 (2) - NO
21:15 Frostmourne: that's guest diff
21:15 Frostmourne: can't do anything
21:15 Metro: he's your friend tell him no more than 1 repeat ESPECIALLY in easy
21:15 Metro: or do you want me to write a post
21:15 Frostmourne: dw
21:15 Frostmourne: I will tell him
21:15 Frostmourne: to almostly remap
21:15 Frostmourne: or something
21:16 Metro: no
21:16 Metro: map is not bad
21:16 Metro: but no more than 1 repeat
21:16 Frostmourne: I see
21:17 Metro: 00:42:020 (2) -
21:18 Frostmourne: how was that
21:18 Frostmourne: btw, I will speak to him
21:18 Metro: same
21:18 Frostmourne: so no worry about it
21:18 Metro: repeat slider
21:19 Metro: 00:59:008 (1) -
21:19 Metro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764970
21:19 Metro: much better
21:20 Metro: 01:09:490 (3) - 2 repeat
21:20 Frostmourne: don't worry alex
21:20 Frostmourne: I will clear these out
21:20 Frostmourne: I may ask hime
21:20 Metro: ok
21:20 Frostmourne: him* for a permission first
21:20 Frostmourne: and then I will slightly remap
21:21 Metro: 01:31:538 (1) -
21:21 Metro: this slider makes no sense
21:21 Metro: musically
21:21 Frostmourne: I am ok with it
21:21 Frostmourne: first hits the guitar
21:21 Frostmourne: 2nd hits finish
21:21 Frostmourne: 3 hits clap
21:21 Frostmourne: but that makes a bit strange
21:22 Metro: I don't like it
21:22 Metro: it's correct but I just don't like it
21:22 Metro: 3 return sliders in a row
21:22 Frostmourne: oh.. I see
21:22 Frostmourne: 3 return sliders is something I really like
21:22 Frostmourne: maybe different taste
21:23 Metro: 02:11:297 (3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764979
21:23 Metro: but after that you need to add some circle/s
21:23 Frostmourne: that's what I will do too
21:23 Frostmourne: yea I see
21:23 Frostmourne: it follows vocal
21:23 Frostmourne: much better
21:25 Metro: 02:37:322 (2) -
21:25 Metro: see this part
21:25 Metro: after that note
21:25 Metro: there's a spinner
21:25 Metro: but the notes after it are too close
21:25 Metro: 02:37:322 (1) - I would make this a spinner
21:26 Frostmourne: actually deleting this note 02:40:575 (1) -
21:26 Frostmourne: still sounds fine
21:26 Metro: 02:39:671 and start mapping from there
21:26 Metro: this is the same as in ur normal
21:26 Metro: so vocals can be mapped
21:26 Metro: feels really weird when vocals are not mapped
21:26 Frostmourne: oh
21:26 Frostmourne: I get your point now
21:27 Frostmourne: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/764987
21:27 Frostmourne: similar to this?
21:27 Metro: yes
21:27 Metro: bridge part very well mapped
21:28 Metro: 03:27:924 (2,3) -
21:28 Metro: 03:30:815 (2,3) -
21:28 Metro: why did he start mapping so boringly
21:28 Metro: instead of just doing the same as he did
21:28 Metro: this part is so boring
21:28 Frostmourne: for the sake of reducing the difficulty I guess
21:28 Frostmourne: it should be something like this on easy one
21:28 Metro: at the end of the map? :/
21:29 Metro: ok
21:29 Frostmourne: I will conclude
21:29 Metro: 03:56:659 (2,3) - too hard rhythm
21:29 Frostmourne: and tell him about it
21:29 Metro: 03:57:562 (4,1,2) -
21:29 Metro: too hard rhythm
21:29 Frostmourne: use that
21:30 Frostmourne: as a short slider
21:30 Frostmourne: fine?
21:30 Metro: sure
21:30 Metro: but rhythm can be mapped differently and that's it
21:30 Frostmourne: yea
21:30 Metro: done