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Hika
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After reading the last several pages, I'm done vote parking. There are obviously scum that are voting for Konei, because I'm so sure Konei is town. Sacrificing scum in D1 isn't the most desirable thing for the 3 person squad. His reasons for doing what he did to Sakura was quite weak but makes me think that perhaps, he slightly doesn't know what he's trying to do.

Revenger, however, is super suspicious and it bothers me because it's just sudden for him to be drawing attention like that. I think I'll have to go with him but I won't vote just yet.
tiper
I'm waiting for votecount.
ReVeNg3r

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Revenger: What do you think about Konei? Is he your scum buddy?
I dont think he is scum, looks like he doesnt really know what to do right now,how to persuade others to unvote him, same as me :) and we arent buddies i think he votes me just because its konei vs revenger match now, and i think 1 on his wagon is scum but on mine as well.
But i dont understand why am i super/extreme/mega suspicious,probably because i said that i will vote someone even if i think he is townie ,and appeared that some guys focused attention on me, thats weird i think..also BRBS seems like going always with majority...i can be wrong
ReVeNg3r
@irreversible: this was meant to sakura only.If you look back on her actions...
tiper
Ok, I'm going to sleep. See you tommorow :>
Topic Starter
Kanye West

Tsukasa wrote:

@Mod: Don't tell me this is a bastard game...
Anything is possible.
I can't guarantee more than one vote count every 24 hours. I woke up an hour ago and the number of pages doubled x.x

Revenger (4) - Konei, Raging Bull, Sakura, Irreversible
Konei (3) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa
No vote (3) - those, Mr Color, BRBP
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Missed a whole page, this should be right now

L-4, approximately 53.5 hours until day end
Konei
What... Nyquill unvoted me, didnt he?
Konei
and it should be Konei (3)
tiper
Oh, I really don't know what to say about Revenger. He looks quite scummy too. But I'm so sleepy. Will think tommorow :>
tiper
@Lincolm: you are still keeping your RV. Why?
fartownik
Okay, back from sleeping. I'm gonna read the ISOs and come back. Just dropping by to say that I don't believe in Revenger being scum. If he was one, his teammates wouldn't let him act so stupid.
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
Hmm you do have a point there fartownik, specially considering they got daytalk.

Vote: Konei

Back to the other scum then.
tiper

Sakura wrote:

Hmm you do have a point there fartownik, specially considering they got daytalk.

Vote: Konei

Back to the other scum then.
You unvoted revenger, am I right?
Sakura
@tiper: Yes
Konei
hehe, interesting.
fartownik

BRBP wrote:

Konei's and Irreversible's avatars.... lol
Uh, seems like they're 'friends'. I just hope the mafia game stayed in the thread.
fartownik
(unless they have daychat ofc \:D/)
Konei

fartownik wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Konei's and Irreversible's avatars.... lol
Uh, seems like they're 'friends'. I just hope the mafia game stayed in the thread.
Uh no, these avatars were chosen randomly huehue.
Irreversible

fartownik wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Konei's and Irreversible's avatars.... lol
Uh, seems like they're 'friends'. I just hope the mafia game stayed in the thread.
don't worry, i can be friends with someone without destroying the whole game - it wouldn't be fun if we talked about it, so mafia stays mafia and other things stay other things :P

also sakura, why did you suddenly turn back to konei? this is really confusing :( dunno what to believe actually, I think i Unvote but my FoS is on revenger.
Sakura
Because I agree with fartownik that if he's scum his partners wouldn't let him do something so stupid, considering they have daychat, uhh you know how scum works right?
Konei
Hm, if we were partners and if I was scum, what makes you think I'd always be contacting him, or am I understanding this wrong?
fartownik
Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
tiper

Sakura wrote:

Because I agree with fartownik that if he's scum his partners wouldn't let him do something so stupid, considering they have daychat, uhh you know how scum works right?
Well... Do you want to say you think, that Revenger isn't a scum?
Konei

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
In game or what? lol I dont understand maybe because I'm tired hehe.
Irreversible
Q__Q this is so confusing

who are we talking about currently? orz
Sakura

tiper wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Because I agree with fartownik that if he's scum his partners wouldn't let him do something so stupid, considering they have daychat, uhh you know how scum works right?
Well... Do you want to say you think, that Revenger isn't a scum?
I would like to think that he is scum, that was quite an awful scumslip imo, but i do believe scum wouldn't be THAT stupid... right?
Konei
Going to get some sleep, dont expect anything from me for that time lol.
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik

Konei wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
In game or what? lol I dont understand maybe because I'm tired hehe.
lolking.net profile.
DakeDekaane
Thanks fartownik, I forgot the fact that mafia have daychat in this game, so:
Vote: Konei

I was thinking the probability of bussing, but it seems Revenger has nobody with him, so this probability is near zero.

Though I'd like to read more from Lincolm and those :c

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
How rude.
tiper

Sakura wrote:

I would like to think that he is scum, that was quite an awful scumslip imo, but i do believe scum wouldn't be THAT stupid... right?
Just making sure...
Irreversible
btw sakura, i downloaded this mafiaiso.jar, but i kinda dunno what to do with it, also i lost the thread XD sorry for epic stupidness right now, tired as well
fartownik

fartownik wrote:

Question to Konei:
Would you link me your LoL profile? :)
nvm this already
tiper
fartownik
After reading ISOs nothing really new came to my mind. The situation with Konei is still the same for me, so keeping my vote on him. The only other 'candidate' to lynch this day would be Revenger because of being unproductive, but as I said I don't believe in him being scum and I prefer to solve one problem in D1 and give us some break from too much WIFOMs in D2.

Also Konei has 6 votes now, 2 more and it's a hammer.
Irreversible
@Fartownik: what do you think about lincolm and dakedekaane?
@Sakura: same question~
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

btw sakura, i downloaded this mafiaiso.jar, but i kinda dunno what to do with it, also i lost the thread XD sorry for epic stupidness right now, tired as well
You don't do anything with that file,on the first post of the thread just click on the first box that says "League of Legends Mafia" and then click on the name you wanna look in isolation.
Sakura
Lincolm hasn't posted since my reads post, so it makes sense that my read on him hasn't changed.

DakeDekaane seems to be town, because, how in the world would you forget you have daychat if you're mafia? O_O
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

@Fartownik: what do you think about lincolm and dakedekaane?
@Sakura: same question~
Can't say much about Lincolm since he's inactive. He's a null read for me.
DakeDekaane is more like null-town newbie.
Irreversible
I see~
Tsukasa

Nyquill wrote:

Now, before I throw my vote again,

Tsukasa wrote:

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

Scum:
tiper
Tsukasa, can you elaborate on that please? I might be missing something while reading but if you can sum it up that would be great.
I don't like repeating myself.

Well to be precise... I'm too lazy to repeat myself
Tsukasa

tiper wrote:

Konei wrote:

@tiper: So why would you want to test her reaction on being voted if she was already voted 2 times? It makes no sense.
3 votes are better than 2 if you want to cause natural reaction.

tiper wrote:

Because I really think that confrontation is a way to get some information at D1, when we don't know anyting about each other. It works, how you'd see.
Seriously... Is it just me or is tiper pulling reasons out of thin air?

Konei wrote:

@Sakura: I wanted to test your reaction on being voted suddenly, if I explained much my reason (which would be reaction testing) it would be pointless.

Also yeah, I'm newbie so I didn't think about reasoning my votes firstly hehe. Sorry for that.
Yeah... This guy as well
Tsukasa
And I like how these people who'm I suspected ignored my suspicion on them.

Obviously keeping distance from me.
Hika
Vote: ReVeNg3r
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Lincolm has been prodded.
Tsukasa
@Mod: I'll be away for probably 2 days or something
VoidnOwO
:)
Tsukasa
what?
Raging Bull

fartownik wrote:

Okay, back from sleeping. I'm gonna read the ISOs and come back. Just dropping by to say that I don't believe in Revenger being scum. If he was one, his teammates wouldn't let him act so stupid.

Well okay. He has been posting slightly better stuff instead of just "Dunno" However what Sakura has is also true about him saying if he won't post, he won't be suspicious.


Unvote
Vote:Konei
Sakura
did you just hammer? ._.
Raging Bull
I think farto said it was L-2 I'll check.
Raging Bull
Fuck I did.
Raging Bull

Kanye West wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

@Mod: Don't tell me this is a bastard game...
Anything is possible.
I can't guarantee more than one vote count every 24 hours. I woke up an hour ago and the number of pages doubled x.x

Revenger (4) - Konei, Raging Bull, Sakura, Irreversible
Konei (3) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa
No vote (3) - those, Mr Color, BRBP
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Missed a whole page, this should be right now

L-4, approximately 53.5 hours until day end
BRBP Votes to Konei
Sakura Unvotes
Sakura Votes Konei
Dake unvotes
Dake votes Konei
Hika votes Revenger (wat Apparently Kanye didnt even have Hika?)
RB unvotes
RB votes Konei

Konei has 7 now. So L-1 now?
Sakura

Nevermind i was counting from Revenger's votes.

At this point, do not vote without declaring an intent to hammer and letting Koney make his last defense first.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

Konei (7) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP, Sakura, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
Revenger (3) - Konei, Irreversible, Hika
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm

L-1
Raging Bull
I'll just unvote and see if anymore discussion

@those/Hika What do you guys think about Konei's vote on Sakura and explanations?

And damnit those post something else. Your activity here is almost like last game which makes me think you are scum too.

Unvote
Sakura
btw, I'm not voting Revenger anymore, and you put me twice in that list.
Raging Bull

Kanye West wrote:

VOTE COUNT:

Konei (7) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP, Sakura, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
Revenger (4) - Konei, Raging Bull, Sakura, Irreversible, Hika
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm

L-1

lol'd
Sakura
that too
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Real fails

fixed, carry on
Nyquill
I really still think konei is a bad D1 vote for the reason I already stated (no one addressed that reason either).

Lincolm's inactivity also worries me, since he's generally much more active than this.

Actually, might be a good opportunity.

Lincolm, when you get back, can you tell me how you feel about the current votes?
Hika
I'm going to skim the entire thread from page 4 going forward in order to get into the game a little more because for D1, this is really deep.
Tsukasa
Nyq: Then who's a better vote?
Hika

Raging Bull wrote:

@those/Hika What do you guys think about Konei's vote on Sakura and explanations?
If you mean earlier at the beginning of the game where he was trying to do a reaction test on her, personally, I think it's Konei doing a really bad job at playing 'hard'. Sakura has her own things up her sleeve but as been noted before, she's just playing aggressively in order to find scum slip-ups. Scum wouldn't reveal themselves easily which leads me to my next couple of assumptions:

I am completely sure that Sakura is town and the same goes for Konei.

On the other hand, my FoS is on Irre and Revenger. It upsets me because Revenger doesn't post enough logical justification and doesn't seem to be taking the game seriously. I think it's better if he's lynched because he's not doing town or mafia any good by just sitting there, ignoring the questions he's been asked and/or answering them illogically/ignoring them. Irre is just acting like everything is a personal attack to him and it shouldn't be taken in such a way, especially when everyone (except scum) should be insecure anyway because they don't know their allies.

These are my opinions from what happened earlier in D1, since I'm actually sitting in front of a computer while posting this:

Null: Tsukasa, Mr Color, Lincolm (leaning town), Dake, tiper (leaning scum), those, Nyquill, BRBP
Scum: Irre (?), Revenger (?)
Town: Sakura (confirmed), farto, Konei, Raging Bull

Currently, I will leave my vote on Revenger because truthfully, no one else catches my suspicion so far (excluding Irre but he hasn't posted for a couple of hours or so). I agree with Sakura, no one should hammer until Konei can make his last defense post.
Hika
wait no this is not okay Unvote
ReVeNg3r
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
DakeDekaane
Some things before going sleep.

BRBP wrote:

inb4 you have a pro-town night ability that's going to waste now :roll:

Tsukasa wrote:

what?
He will kill you while you sleep. Maybe a joke~

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
@those/Lincolm: Say something, don't want any of you just come and hammer Konei.
ReVeNg3r
Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
fartownik

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
^ this

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
Raging Bull

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
Actually, not posting would most likely everyone point you as scum, so it is good to post. And I said how you are still suspicious to me but you have been posting slightly better. I understand that you are understand how this game works, but when someone questions you and you just say "Dunno" or ignore other stuff, then it gets really suspicious.




It is 23 hours since his last post lol, but Mod: Prod those
Hika

ReVeNg3r wrote:

and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
If you're both townie, great, you're both townie and you're both going to eventually get lynched or NK'd.

And seriously, has anyone noticed how Irre and Konei barely question each other? And by barely, I mean Irre has only questioned Konei once. It's bothering me but if I were to think about it, Irre could convince me that he is scum from just this one observation (and this is literally me trying not to consider the fact that they have shared avatars).

@Irre: how do you feel about what I've stated above?

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
I think Konei is town mainly because as what Lincolm has stated earlier in the game about me:

Lincolm wrote:

Hika tried to make a discussion before, but it is completely risky if I take a look at his post. I don't think scum will make risky post like that.
can be applied to what Konei is doing, except for the fact that it probably wasn't intended because he stated that it was only a 'reaction check'. He's being a bit risky on his actions which seem to others as scum trying to look townie, but here, I just see him defending himself, although before, he stated that he had a reason for voting Sakura, then later saying that he didn't have a legit one, only to go back to saying that it was a reaction check. He really doesn't know what he's doing and I understand that, but voting him right now is too risky for me, because I'm still thrown off about his role after thinking things over again, which is why I'm going to have to single out my vote on Irre, though no one will follow along.

Revenger really does seem town after looking back at a few of his posts in ISO, but that still doesn't remove my FoS on him.

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
You need to realize that what you said earlier:

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me,don't you think so?
was, AND still is, highly suspicious and you have no right to be surprised if people hop on you about it, because it's really scummy. Just saying for future reference that if you really were scum (which I still question), you shouldn't say anything like that but rather, keeping it to yourself if you want to stay hidden (at least I'd assume you'd do that). Sorry but my FoS is on you still.

Vote: Irreversible
Hika

fartownik wrote:

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
Well, if you'll read what I just posted, you'll understand what I mean when I think that Revenger is scum, though the suspicion is lightly drifting off of him. I'm mostly thinking about Irre at the moment and his connection with Konei in this thread.
fartownik

Hika wrote:

And seriously, has anyone noticed how Irre and Konei barely question each other? And by barely, I mean Irre has only questioned Konei once. It's bothering me but if I were to think about it, Irre could convince me that he is scum from just this one observation (and this is literally me trying not to consider the fact that they have shared avatars).
So you mean they both might be scum by this, right? Why not vote Konei then? :o
Sakura
Well Hika's defense for Konei's has been noted, I still have my doubts about Konei, but I may be tunneling on him too much, wouldn't want a quick hammer to happen tonight so for now.
Unvote
That will put him at L-3 and if he gets quick hammered then we can easily see who the 3 scum is. I'll take a look at Revenger's and Konei's ISOs again when I wake up and will vote based on what I find. Tiper's still rubbing me the wrong way btw, so is Irre.
ReVeNg3r
@RB: i dont understand how i suspected you ???and if you have any questions then ask me i have no problem with you, yet.
@Hika:Yes, i learned from it.
Raging Bull
Because I asked why you would vote for someone you think is town and you replied a dunno. And then Sakura pointed out something you wrote that was very suspicious.

Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
Hika

fartownik wrote:

So you mean they both might be scum by this, right? Why not vote Konei then? :o
I'm not going to say that it was a 'reaction test' (GG), but after reading about the first 15 or so pages, they both differ in reaction, such as Konei wouldn't take things as seriously as Irre and of course, psychologically, getting rather defensive could mean that he could perhaps be scum because he was targeted so quickly. Konei, on the other hand, didn't seem (as I recall) too alarmed when he was called out for being scum.

If it's not good enough of an answer, sorry, I can't really give you a better answer than this without thinking more about it.
fartownik
After thinking a little, I say that one of the Sakura bandwagoners must go (Konei, Irre or tiper) or we will have too much wifoms in D2. It doesn't matter that much which one it will be since people already started to withdraw the votes from Konei.

But I'm unsure about taking my vote out of him as I don't trust neither Nyquill or Hika (yet), the main defenders of Konei. I'm gonna wait for what Lincolm has to say about this.
Konei
Just read everything and I have to say that I'm still most suspicious on Revenger.
I mean; why shouldn't he want to get attention if he had nothing to hide? If he'd be a good townie,
he would be scum hunting. About Irre, I'm quite not sure. He doesn't really seem to know what to do like me either.
Konei
Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
Tsukasa
tiper would be someone I'll vote
VoidnOwO
:)
Raging Bull

Konei wrote:

Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
He wants to start a discussion. But I still say he was rather suspicious. I say it rather worked out for him because the focus was on you and not on tiper too for bandwagoning on Sakura.
Tsukasa
Just to clarify... I'll be gone tomorrow for some shiz. And I'm not sure about the day after. So whatevs.

Anyways. BRBP :V

Don't fprce me a name that I don't want.

Calling me a PR... :V
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
Because PRs are the first thing scum wants to night kill.
Raging Bull
Tsukass
Tsukasa
lol RB.

Name was a figure of speech.

By name, I meant painting me as a PR.

And to be fair, someone else gave me that name. And that someone is the only one allowed to call me that >w>
ReVeNg3r

Raging Bull wrote:

Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
heh i dont really have such a read,bit hard for newbie i guess
but if i really try to make it it would be kind of like
SPOILER
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
probably scum: Irreversible, BRBP, tiper
no clue: Sakura,Nyquill,Raging Bull,those,Mr Color,Lincolm
Nothing really special to say to them.
btw, only i have that feeling that Sakura and fartownik are playing together?I still dont know if Sakura is town or just acting it really well :/ .

Raging Bull wrote:

Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
Given to my first theory he was the choosen one ,and i still dont believe he is town, and still think one of those "rednamed" is scum and i will stay behind that.


Raging Bull wrote:

If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
After mentioning that someone is obviously scum on there, people changed their votes so its now discussable if there is one.
Cyclohexane
The thing with revenger is that he could very well be either legit VI and come up with arguments that really aren't valid, or he's asked to play VI to turn the discussion around. It wouldn't be surprising especially since he started doing it relatively late into the first day. That could mean a potential sacrifice on scum side which is really unlikely at 12/3, but it's still something to consider.

Also I have no idea how you guys managed to get your own ideas about who is scum and who isn't. For me pretty much everyone is null at this point. Probably lack of experience, or lack of activity (heh), but still, damn.
tiper
@Mod: Votecount and deadline
tiper
My thoughts:
  1. Town: fanderwikfartownik, Sakura, Lincolm
  2. Scum: Konei, Revenger
  3. Null: BRBP, DakeDekaane, Hika, Irreversible(leaning scum), Mr Color, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Tsukasa, those
Konei
What exactly makes you still think I'm scum?
tiper
Nothing has changed.
Raging Bull
Lol what kind of explanation is that?




Also I'm going sleep.

post those post!
tiper

tiper wrote:

And as I said before your reaction looked quite panicky for me. That's why I voted you. Your actions seem to be extremely chaotic.
Nyquill

fartownik wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
^ this

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.

Nyquill wrote:

On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.

1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.

Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that he is doing something out of the best interests of town.

Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
Then I also stated my deductions and who I think is possibly scum right now.

Revenger is also a load of wifom, and honestly its better to get rid of wifom early so we don't have to deal with it later.

I need to look for Tsukasa's reasoning for tiper. Give me a bit.
Nyquill
Tsukasa thinks tiper is scum because of his odd behavior and his "if I was scum" statement earlier and eh, quite honestly I don't disagree.

It also seems that of most our collective deductions include tiper in one way or another.
To me its either him or revenger, so I guess since there are people still not willing to see Revenger go for whatever reason and no one has really any reason to keep tiper,

Vote: Tiper


And he also was one to throw a lot of questions that doesn't really lead anywhere, and that is a sign of scumplay to me.

Also wtf Lincolm is being really weird and actually not posting in a mafia game

Prod: Lincolm
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