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Topic Starter
Natteke
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on May-06-13 at 22:52:21

Artist: Mind Vortex
Title: Arc
Tags: rlc vass bass rue dnb drum and bass ram
BPM: 172
Filesize: 4518kb
Play Time: 02:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Nsane (5 stars, 466 notes)
  2. RLC's Normal (3.95 stars, 171 notes)
  3. Rue's Easy (1.74 stars, 99 notes)
  4. Vass' Hard (4.91 stars, 294 notes)
Download: Mind Vortex - Arc
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Awesome people: Vass_Bass, Rue and RLC
RLC
yep
Topic Starter
Natteke
yup
Charsi
классно
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
0,0
Azer
probably gonna mod all diffs, love the song.
and youre an experienced mapper anyway, i doubt my modding will help all that much ;D
Topic Starter
Natteke
thanks!
Azer
Yay I'm honored

General
  1. No Kiai?

Nsane
  1. I will ignore all mis-stacked notes because it seems it was the intended purpose.
  2. To make the intro a little easier on HR you could have a little more notes 00:46:827 00:49:269 , etc.
  3. 01:13:164 (1,3) - Switch these around
  4. 01:14:210 (1,2,3) - Swap these around in this order: 2, 3, 1.
  5. 01:19:617 (1,2,3,4) - This breaks the snare = slider pattern, you could rearrange them so it that it does not.
  6. 01:22:408 (1,2,3) - ^
  7. 01:28:513 (4,5) - Swap?
  8. 01:40:199 (7,1) - I feel the Big slider should start on 01:40:548 instead.
  9. 01:42:466 (2,4,6) - Could move these notes somewhere else like x:188 y:79
  10. 01:50:315 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could be better if these notes were placed to 'lead' to the slider, like this maybe
  11. 01:55:199 (4) - Fit this slider at 01:55:024 instead to match the audio
  12. 01:56:943 (5) - Snap 1/2, it kills the flow otherwise.
  13. 02:12:466 (5) - This part has potential for a snare=slider pattern, you could rearrange this as well.
  14. 02:24:327 (3) - Reverse selection?
  15. 02:24:850 (5) - Snap 1/2, it kills the flow otherwise. OR Start the slider at 02:24:676
  16. 02:27:641 (6) - ^

Vass' Hard
  1. 01:08:455 (4,5) - Swap these two around. Snare = Slider
  2. 01:27:466 (2,3,4) - These three notes feel just slightly offsync
  3. 01:48:920 (1,2) - Spacing may create confusion, I suggest distancing these two.
  4. 01:55:896 (4,7,1) - Snap 1/2, it kills the flow otherwise.
  5. 02:09:850 (4) - ^
  6. 02:11:769 (2) - Make shorter slider and reverse it?
  7. 02:12:641 (4,5) - Swap

RLC's Normal
  1. 00:48:745 (3) - This note being offbeat might confuse players
  2. 00:54:327 (3) - ^
  3. 00:59:908 (3) - ^
  4. 01:02:873 (3) - Now this note isn't offbeat, choose between on or off and stick with for the whole intro imo.
  5. 02:16:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Section feels offsync.

Rue's Easy
  1. Plot Twist! I hate modding easy maps :x

EDIT: I'm playing the shit out of this when it goes ranked. Amazing map as always <3
Topic Starter
Natteke
will take a look when I wake up, thanks a lot
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
mod:


Nsane

  1. 00:54:676 (6) - move to 256:136 because ____| www
  2. 01:20:838 (6) - i suggest it here\\\ http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/707063 looks more balanced(?
  3. 01:30:170 (3) - make 1/4 at this place http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/707064 it's more fun to play wwwww
  4. 01:42:466 (2) - why no 1/4 slider here! suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/707067
  5. 01:45:955 - this tick empty, don't sound papapa too much (?
  6. 01:51:100 - add note here!
  7. wwwwww
Vass' Hard

  1. 01:53:803 (5) - make this tick empty http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/707075 like 01:49:617 (2) - www
  2. 02:33:484 - add note!
Easy

  1. 01:41:594 (3) - 0,0
233
Natteke desu
Kay
[Vass' Hard]
01:26:594 (1) - я не думаю что это поменяют, но все же.
^такое лучше играться будет
01:49:617 (2,3,4) - ничего особенного, опять придирка простомненравитсякакэтозвучит
[Nsane]
01:30:083 (3,4) - на пару гридов вправо?

^Можно не смотреть.
Могу позже чекнуть еще раз, хотя не думаю что это кому-то будет нужно, сейчас нет времени смотреть лучше.
Удачных ранков etc.
Lokovodo
on Nsane you should add breaks inbetween the first notes because theres alot of pointless lifedrain
Vass_Bass
http://puu.sh/2BfYL fixed some stuff, thx
Goodbye Shin
ok

Rue's Easy
Great diff, can't find anything weird. Only one thing to consider. Newbs might be confused by this part:



Apart from that everything seems to be just fine.

RLC's Normal
RLC likes overlapped sliders. A lot of em.
That's pretty much it. Everything else seems to be ok.

Vass' Hard
Suggestion only.

02:19:617 (1) - this part is a bit wierd, how about moving whole object a little bit lower?


Nsane
unsnapped stuff

01:00:083 (5) - this note
01:07:583 (3) - ^same
01:32:699 (4) - ^same as above
01:33:048 (2) - ^
01:33:222 (3) - ^
01:33:396 (4) - ^
01:38:803 (3) - ^
01:49:792 (6) - ^
02:02:176 (4) - ^
02:18:920 (5) - ^
02:23:106 (5) - ^
02:33:571 (8) - ^
was it all intentional? o.o

Good stuff ;)
RLC
http://puu.sh/2BrGL fixed offbeats in the beginning, i guess

also yeah i <3 overlapped sliders
Topic Starter
Natteke
thank you all!
happy30
Topic Starter
Natteke

happy30 wrote:

RLC
??????????
??????????

cat mind vortex
Nyquill

RLC wrote:

??????????
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cat mind vortex
OH SNAP
cheesiest

Nyquill wrote:

RLC wrote:

??????????
??????????

cat mind vortex
OH SNAP
loving
Rue

Goodbye Shin wrote:

Newbs might be confused by this part: ye kk
http://puu.sh/2CUo8
happy30
my imouto is proud of you RLC
Kodora
[General]

Your background is 1280x720, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768.
Beginning is too long imho. Maybe cut useless part of mp3?

[Rue's Easy]

Unsnapped green lines:
00:44:819 - snap to 00:44:821
00:46:563 - snap to 00:46:565
00:46:737 - snap to 00:46:739
00:50:400 - snap to 00:50:402
00:50:575 - snap to 00:50:577
00:58:772 - snap to 00:58:774
00:58:947 - snap to 00:58:949
01:06:970 - snap to 01:06:972


00:58:687 (1,1) - I suggest avoid onerlapping like this in easiest diff, it will cofuse beginners imho.

[LRC's Normal]

01:56:071 (3,1) - too confusing overlap for beginners imho
01:58:164 (2,3) - ^
02:01:652 (5,6) - ^
02:09:327 (2,3) - ^
02:17:699 (4) - remove clap? sounds better for me without it
02:19:094 (9) - ^
02:26:594 (4,5) - this is too confusing for normal imho, i suggest you change form of 02:27:117 (5) or make this overlap in other way
02:28:862 (4) - remove clap here too?
02:30:257 (9) - ^

[Vass' Hard]

Unsnapped green lines:

00:44:819 - snap to 00:44:821
00:46:563 - snap to 00:46:565
00:46:737 - snap to 00:46:739
01:06:970 - snap to 01:06:972

OD +1 for balance between diffs?

01:24:850 (6) - nc follow music? Also, how about make this slider linear?
01:32:176 (5) - ^ same about nc
01:53:629 (5,6,7,8,9) - this is just boring imho. How about chanre it to 1/4 slider or make spacing at least?
02:04:792 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ same

[Nsane]

Very good triangle patterns
No kiai? o.o

Unsnapped green lines:
00:44:819 - snap to 00:44:821
00:46:563 - snap to 00:46:565
00:46:737 - snap to 00:46:739
00:50:400 - snap to 00:50:402
00:50:575 - snap to 00:50:577
00:58:772 - snap to 00:58:774
00:58:947 - snap to 00:58:949
01:06:970 - snap to 01:06:972

00:56:943 (3,4,5,6,7) - i dont like this antijump ._. Maybe move it to the end of slider?
01:26:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - please move those notes avay from stream, it is very confusing
02:02:001 (3) - nc follow pattern
02:02:350 (5) - ^
02:13:338 (4) - ^

Good luck.
RLC

Kodora wrote:

01:56:071 (3,1) - too confusing overlap for beginners imho eh it's fine i think
01:58:164 (2,3) - ^ ^
02:01:652 (5,6) - ^ reduced overlap
02:09:327 (2,3) - ^ reduced overlap
02:17:699 (4) - remove clap? sounds better for me without it want some variety :p
02:19:094 (9) - ^
02:26:594 (4,5) - this is too confusing for normal imho, i suggest you change form of 02:27:117 (5) or make this overlap in other way reduced overlap
02:28:862 (4) - remove clap here too?
02:30:257 (9) - ^
thanks. http://puu.sh/2DZSP.txt
Zexous
M4TIMINGHELPYEYTHANKS

Sorry it took a while but see, I wasn't lying when I said it takes me a while to mod.

[Rue's Easy]

Pretty much all of what I'm picking on for this diff is a) picking on spacing that isn't the ~1.2x standard that I observed, b) red tick beats that feel awkward to me, and c) use of 1/2. If you think all of these are ok, feel free to ignore all of this.

  • 01:19:617 (2) - 1.65x spacing
    01:22:408 (2) - 1.84x spacing
    01:25:199 (2) - 1.74x spacing
    01:26:594 (1) - 2.75x spacing
    01:29:908 (1) - Awkward beat, I recommend moving to a white tick.
    01:35:489 (2) - ^
    01:41:071 (2) - ^
    01:41:594 (3,4) - Is the use of 1/2 really a good idea in an Easy? (Using sliders actually might make it more difficult for beginners than regular 1/2 too, sliders are more confusing)
    01:52:583 - ^ 1/1 slider but transition to next is 1/2
    01:44:734 (2) - 1.48x spacing
    01:56:943 (6) - 1.58x spacing
    02:01:652 (2,3) - 1/2 transition sliders
    02:12:815 (2,3) - ^
    02:14:559 (1) - Awkward beat
    02:14:908 (2,3) - 1.81x spacing, also 1/2 gap
    02:18:222 (2) - 1.63x spacing
    02:19:617 (1) - 1.75x spacing
    02:24:501 (5) - This is 1/2, but just one slider, so I would like to be lenient, but beginners may still be confused (also they may be panicked by 02:25:199 (1) - appearing so quickly)
[RLC's Normal]

How in the world did you get RLC to make a low diff
Anyway, this mod is similar to how I did the Easy. Most of this is the same issue appearing over again, and issue is too strong of a word. Feel free to ignore.

  • 01:13:164 (2) - 1.34x spacing
    02:14:385 (2,3) - Slider into circle is considerably harder than circle into slider.
    02:16:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - An awful lot of circles here, looks kind of harsh for the beginner to singletap 86 without slider intermission
    02:19:966 (2,3) - Slider into circle thing
    02:25:548 (2,3) ^
    02:27:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Same shitton of circles
    02:31:129 (2,3) - Slider into circle thing
Good job on making a good low diff at last :D

[Vass' Hard]

I love Vass :3

  • 01:26:594 (1,2) - This part confused me every single time I played through, not just the first or the second time. The combination of the SV change and the overlap makes it extremely confusing to play. I very strongly think this should be changed.
    01:57:641 (2) - Having this completely overlap is confusing. Typically that kind of overlap indicates a gap of 1/2 from the previous note to this one, and you have that going on everywhere else too. However, the gap here is 1/4, so ideally it should be a partial overlap like at 01:56:943 (7) - )
    02:00:606 (2,3,4,5) - Two 1/4 at the end of a slider directly into a pattern of circles is kind of...confounding...to play.
Another wonderful work by Vass :D

[Nsane]

More opinions.
I personally don't like the flow of your jumps in this map, but because that is an issue of style, I'll keep quiet about it unless it really bugs me.

00:56:420 (2,3,4,5) - I would like the flow better if it were like in this picture (note: top is what you have, bottom is what I'd like to see)
01:33:571 (1,3) - Didn't like the flow of this, maybe ctrl+G the 1 and keep the 3 as it is, and it feels a lot nicer (move the 1 further away to adjust distance accordingly, of course)
01:44:559 (5) - Extremely hard to spot this note
01:53:455 (2) - Ctrl+G and rotate ~25 degrees?
01:58:687 (1) - Ctrl+G? Feels better to me (adjust spacing of 1 and following 2 accordingly)
02:01:478 (1,2) - Pretty awkward pause
02:04:792 (3,4,5,6,1) - I didn't like the flow of 3, 4, and 5, specifically the sliders 4 and 5, so I tried ctrl+G on them and adjusting accordingly (it would look roughly something like this, bear in mind I didn't take the time to adjust the following slider/note to make it look pretty or anything)
02:16:827 (4) - I'd like for this not to be so...axis-justified...as in, it would be nice if it could be rotated -45 degrees
02:21:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - I just can't bring myself to like these jumps, they feel too awkwardly sharp (not sharp like a normal jump map, but sharp like something that is twisting your wrist)
02:27:641 (6) - Ctrl+G and adjust following slider (picture)



All in all a nice mapset. Good luck getting the heart.
Vass_Bass
http://puu.sh/2EX0E.osu thanks :3
Edit: я забыла к херам по случайному стечению обстоятельств не поставила вистлы в начале. Поставь, пожалуйста ._.
Muya
なってけです
Topic Starter
Natteke

Muya wrote:

なってけです
ムー屋
8Ball
Классно.
Frostmourne
yo guys

General
- EDIT: offset should be 79(-4) , it plays so much better from this (noticed after playing through the insane with OD9)
don't forget to resnap all greenlines, notes and preview point if necessary
- probably add tag : "drum and bass ram" to specify from abbreviated word "dnb" and ram that's from Ram Records

Rue's Easy
01:08:455 (3) - this slider doesn't sound well much , still good though that you created the new intuitive rhythm :P
but problem arises when the end of this slider also doesn't end well either
so basically this slider should start at 01:08:629 instead. the end of this slider with Sampleset : Normal , Additions : Soft to be corresponding with 01:08:106 (2) - as well :P (don't forget to replace with whistle on the tail of slider instead and beware of spacing at 01:09:501 (4) - as well !)
01:18:222 (1,2) - ohh spacing :x , decrease it from 1.6 to 1.2 as well since this is the easiest diff D:
01:21:013 (1,2) - spacing
01:23:803 (1,2,1) - spacing, do something please..
01:30:780 (2) - this slider ends better at 01:31:303 , the obvious sound appears at this point , beware of spacing after fixing this
01:36:362 (4) - apply the same logic with the above. It sounds obviously better at 01:36:885
01:41:943 (4) - ^
01:44:734 (2) - I would move this slider to x:68 y:307 or something to avoid spacing error, it isn't that issue when you can make the blanket look good but I would avoid it for the easiest diff :)
01:47:524 (2) - same logic as mentioned
01:53:106 (2) - ^
01:58:687 (2) - ^
02:14:559 (1,2) - BIG
02:15:431 (3) - same logic as mentioned
02:16:827 (1,2,1) - spacing a bit big, but not an issue
02:26:594 (2) - ^
02:32:176 (5) - this slider on the tail (repeat point) ends really well like what I mentioned ._. so that's why I want you to fix them I mentioned for this kind of rhythm
I personally don't get why some spacings are broken, they don't look neat to me, the rhythms are nice but some of them that I mentioned were misplaced imo
I hope you will do something about this Rue and I know you will do well after this 8-)

RLC's Normal
02:31:129 (2) - I would whistle on the head for this slider, quite similar to 02:32:699 (5) - but different reason? maybe
because I can hear some high pitch on the head that sounds similar to the end of this slider so that's why I mentioned :x

Vass' Hard
00:46:478 (5) - I would change this to a circle instead because the end of slider isn't that necessary when it doesn't anything in the music
but actually it's comfortable to play with slider :) so your choice to fix it or not
00:49:269 (5) - in my opinion, this slider isn't necessary, the latter somewhat like 00:51:710 (4) - 00:54:501 (4) - 00:57:292 (6) - are enough as you see
I tried removing it and it was fine totally :o , you may want to keep this for consistency with 00:46:478 (5) - (probably)
01:55:896 (4,5) - I would change the rhythm to this screenshot. what I felt was it follows the exactly same sound with 01:54:501 (1,2,3) - . I felt it empty when the slider at 01:55:896 (4) - doesn't give a sound on 01:56:071, if you changed to a circle, it would sound more fitting :P

Nsane
some positions that I felt uncomfortable will be mentioned , nothing related to the rhythms themselves so take this as a suggestion
01:37:408 (5,6) - I find them hard to read personally but they were well-constructed so let you consider fixing it or follow this 01:59:210 (3,4,5,6,7) - ?
02:07:931 (5,6) - I would remove 02:08:367 (6) - and end this slider at 02:08:367 instead because the sound from this point 02:07:931 to 02:08:367 gives me the feel somewhat dragging (hard to explain, like holding) for some reason as you did in other points such as 02:24:850 (5) - 02:27:641 (6) -
I think holding the slider and then hook at 02:08:455 (1) - will give the better feel :lol: (current stream a bit breaking the flow imo)
nice jump map, I so love it xD

call me back after applying these :)
Topic Starter
Natteke
Changed the timing and tags and fixed my dif. Waiting for others.

thanks!
Vass_Bass
http://puu.sh/2NjUS.osu fixed some
thanks
Topic Starter
Natteke
done :>
RLC

Frostmourne wrote:

RLC's Normal
02:31:129 (2) - I would whistle on the head for this slider, quite similar to 02:32:699 (5) - but different reason? maybe
because I can hear some high pitch on the head that sounds similar to the end of this slider so that's why I mentioned :x sounds a bit weird imo; i prefer to have the whistle stronger at the end of the slider--and i want to keep it the same at 02:25:544 - and all the ones before it too :p
http://puu.sh/2Nsp4.txt fixed a small spacing issue brought up in zexous's mod though
Rue
http://puu.sh/2NV37.osu

lol i didn't even notice the spacing gaps were that big; ye to all the spacing warnings, however nope to the rhythm ones except the first one i think

thank you!
Topic Starter
Natteke
all done
Frostmourne
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