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Mouse: One reason you don't want to play mouse anymore

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Kalas_old
for me, I am better with tablet than mouse and also its more fun for me.
Glass

Lybydose wrote:

Useless in mania
real
Karazeru
- Sometimes I crush my hands and move it in a way on fast songs where I twist my wrist by mistake when I panic on missing. It hurts the sides of my hands due to how I hold it.

- If it's a wireless mouse, it's REALLY annoying cause it skips alot when you least expect it.
chelly

Karazeru wrote:

- If it's a wireless mouse, it's REALLY annoying cause it skips alot when you least expect it.
I think that's just you and your low quality mouse.
Karazeru

PikaPika677 wrote:

Karazeru wrote:

- If it's a wireless mouse, it's REALLY annoying cause it skips alot when you least expect it.
I think that's just you and your low quality mouse.
Well it's a Logitech M305. Though I have no idea how old it is... Besides, it seems to work most of the time, it's just sometimes it skips. I really have no idea how wireless mouse works, or if signals can screw it up or not.
djjsixpack
Because when my mouse gets locked in a slow motion of going in a big circle like in the map Chloe, my mouse eventually slides off the desk so I can't S it unless I pause every 30 seconds and reposition.

I think it's a more fun play style though, except for cursor dancing lol.

Well it's a Logitech M305. Though I have no idea how old it is... Besides, it seems to work most of the time, it's just sometimes it skips. I really have no idea how wireless mouse works, or if signals can screw it up or not.
Wireless mice have a really high polling rate which makes playing faster maps literally impossible unless you have a really good one. In any case, they are garbage for osu!.
winber1
Having drawing experience, I have a easier time with finger/wrist movement rather than arm/wrist movement.

well i kinda use my arm too with tablet, but not as much. also holding a pen is more natural
Anzo
My hand hurts (mouse only)
jemhuntr
because it's a mouse.
Synchrostar
pen is lighter than mouse, better for my wall when i throw stuff at it
Frostmourne
It's really hard to keep consistent while playing (not really stable)
Tsukimi Luna
Because i dont want to rebuild my aim from scratch again...
Even if its more stable.....

PLaying with a wireless mouse is the last thing you should do...
I used to play with a wireless logitech mouse with x4 dpi meaning 4,000 dpi
I dont even know how i played that settings back then
But during that time
I was stuck, like there was a brick wall in front of me (Could only play easy insanes)
I only moved on after reducing my sens and getting a wired mouse and started using the keyboard
Wireless mouse tend to slide away a lot and is extremely unstable

Tablet makes single tapping so ez <3
usa
wrist destroyer
-Soba-
mouse makes the game too easy
TocoToucan
1) It hurts.
2) Accuracy becomes unstable while playing a beatmap(after 1-2 minutes).
GreenT34
Since I can play around with my properties and settings...I have my mouse configured at 3800dpi. Before I ever reached that high, I played on a much lower dpi, like around the 1500 area. As I'd play more and more Osu, and realize I could do so much more without moving around my entire arm, I'd train my hand to adjust to the settings accordingly. Yeah, sometimes my wrist does hurt, but being able to make very minimal movements helps a lot. I have the smallest space for my mouse available next to my giant of a keyboard, and it's really all I need.
Aqo
I played some mouse today and had a ton of fun. Screw this thread \ : D /
Kanye West
Yeah mouse is the best, screw the haters.
puncia
I still like a lot playing with mouse; I don't play with it actively anymore though. My hand always gets so wet after a while the mouse goes everywhere ;w;
Nosher_old
because im terrible at the game
Akimari_old
I play with a mousepad and I'm not.. that bad. It's just hard to move your finger quickly from one place to another.

I'm going to present this thread to my mom with the topic "Another reason you should buy me a tablet"
VoidnOwO
:)
Zerostarry

Puncia wrote:

I still like a lot playing with mouse; I don't play with it actively anymore though. My hand always gets so wet after a while the mouse goes everywhere ;w;
lewd~

The only reason i'd switch is that my mouse falls off the mousepad sometimes when maps have too much left or right motion
meiikyuu

Kanye West wrote:

Yeah mouse is the best, screw the haters.
Yoeri
I kept accidentally lifting it.
Also unable to make small circles while spinning.
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
i play mouse because i'm a cat, nyanyanya (?
enik

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

i play mouse because i'm a cat, nyanyanya (?
LOL

I don't play mouse because I don't know how to hold it without losing control after any jump.
Winshley

Kanye West wrote:

Yeah mouse is the best, screw the haters.
I don't hate playing with mouse.

In fact, I actually enjoyed playing HD+FL with mouse because it's more challenging than to play with tablet (because you can use something to mark at the tablet to pinpoint the position. e.g: stickers).
buny

Winshley wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Yeah mouse is the best, screw the haters.
I don't hate playing with mouse.

In fact, I actually enjoyed playing HD+FL with mouse because it's more challenging than to play with tablet (because you can use something to mark at the tablet to pinpoint the position. e.g: stickers).
tbh i don't think anybody does that
XripztEr
a skate(mouse) is broken because im playing too much though, clicks does not work anymore. and i can't afford to bought a one.
so i managed play with a keyboard, then i tried play with a tablet a couple months ago but i dont feel confortable to play, really!
sticks to mouse(mouse only to mouse+kb) :oops:
silmarilen
im still playing with mouse right now but the reason im switching is because of the absolute positioning and because i think its easier to make patterns compared to mouse
Espionage724
Mouse button lifespan. My first mouse had double-clicking issues relatively soon after learning of osu! :p

To be fair though, another reason I was using mouse was because I thought that was the only way to play (about a month later I heard someone mention they use keyboard in chat and I was curious)
Xyrene
Save money on cheese.

But just to be serious, there's a huge difference between moving a huge wired plastic contraption and a small, pen-shaped sized one.
-Soba-

Kanye West wrote:

Yeah mouse is the best, screw the haters.
Sotodashi
It sucks.
NAGISACHAn_old
Only playing with mouse but a lot of squares or circle movement and i need to reposition the mouse cause the cursor gets off, really hate it.
F m L_old
if i could stream for longer i would switch to mouse permanently, i can only do hard patterns but miss every deathstream
Mandrias
:shock: -_-
Running out of desk space...
Buying a mouse without mouse acceleration...
Hand hurting...

Okay, first if your running out of desk space you almost have to have mouse acceleration on, or you need to increase mouse sensitivity big time.
My mouse currently moves about 1 to 1 1/2 inches to make it to the other side of my screen, and I'm (with practice) able to do large jumps accurately.

Second, mouse acceleration is not an issue with your mouse (although some do have software that can disable mouse acceleration such as the razer ones using Razer Synapse) it is actually an issue with windows, and you can disable this. At this link CLICKMEIMALINK

And the last common problem I'm seeing is hand hurting, well that means you either play with a claw or fingertip grip when you use a mouse, your hand gets tired faster than a palm grip but you do have much faster movements, you should take a break...I use clawgrip and my hand starts to hurt after an hour or 2 of playing nonstop pretty much. Sooo yeahh, stand up, get some blood back into your ass, make sure your legs are still usable, grab a snack.

EDIT:: Just disabling mouse acceleration will make it so as long as your not hitting the edge of the screen, your mouse will never be out of position which allows you to find a nice way to hold it comfortably, and if you turn up sensitivity and practice, you'll notice you no longer use 99% of your mouse pad.
TakuMii

mandrias87 wrote:

:shock: -_-
Running out of desk space...
Buying a mouse without mouse acceleration...
Hand hurting...

Okay, first if your running out of desk space you almost have to have mouse acceleration on, or you need to increase mouse sensitivity big time.
My mouse currently moves about 1 to 1 1/2 inches to make it to the other side of my screen, and I'm (with practice) able to do large jumps accurately.

Second, mouse acceleration is not an issue with your mouse (although some do have software that can disable mouse acceleration such as the razer ones using Razer Synapse) it is actually an issue with windows, and you can disable this. At this link CLICKMEIMALINK
...rank 0 trying to give advice? :/

Actually, when you turn off mouse acceleration in the settings, you're only turning off software mouse acceleration. 99% of mice have around 5% hardware mouse acceleration, which you can't turn off. The mice that are labelled "no acceleration" actually still have a speed limit (a speed where the mouse glitches or can't track), but it's usually so fast that a normal person probably wouldn't be able to reach unless it they were moving the mouse as fast as humanly possible.
There's only about 7-8 different mice on the market that fit into this 'zero-acceleration' (aka 'flawless sensor') category, and they're all optical and are either old mice (like the IntelliMouse) or are around the range of 3500/4000dpi (like the Logitech G400). These mice are usually around the $40-50 price range and may be a worthy purchase for someone not willing to switch to tablet.

I've been through a normal Microsoft mouse, a Logitech MX300, an Alienware TactX mouse, Razer DeathAdder, and the legendary Microsoft IntelliMouse, and I guarantee that I've turned off any and all mouse acceleration settings on all of the mice (in the Synapse, TactX, Logitech, etc settings), and done several tests (in FPSes, in osu!, in other games, and even in Microsoft Paint) and only the last two mice (and my current mouse) were able to keep zero-acceleration tracking up to their speed limit (although the last two have relatively low max-speeds compared to other zero-acceleration mice, but you'll probably not reach them if you're only playing osu!, aside from the spinners).

mandrias87 wrote:

And the last common problem I'm seeing is hand hurting, well that means you either play with a claw or fingertip grip when you use a mouse, your hand gets tired faster than a palm grip but you do have much faster movements, you should take a break...I use clawgrip and my hand starts to hurt after an hour or 2 of playing nonstop pretty much. Sooo yeahh, stand up, get some blood back into your ass, make sure your legs are still usable, grab a snack.
Personally, I've been switching grips every time I've switched mice, and I've never had any issues with wrist nor hand pain. Even with my current mouse (which has a really strange shape IMO), I use a clawgrip and can play for hours on end with no issues. I think it just varies depending on the person.

mandrias87 wrote:

EDIT:: Just disabling mouse acceleration will make it so as long as your not hitting the edge of the screen, your mouse will never be out of position which allows you to find a nice way to hold it comfortably, and if you turn up sensitivity and practice, you'll notice you no longer use 99% of your mouse pad.
(responding to the bolded text): Unless you're already used to using a high sensitivity, this is a bad idea. You will lose a great deal of precision by setting a higher DPI. Even if you already use a higher DPI it's generally recommended to set the lowest DPI you have room for in order to achieve maximum precision, but if your mouse has acceleration you might feel the effects of it a lot stronger. Most mouse players play at around 400 to 1000 DPI, and a full-area tablet is technically 200-300 DPI (but takes up less room because a pen tip is much smaller than a mouse). High DPI is more suited for other games that don't need extremely precise mouse positioning (or games that require tons of movement for long periods of time), and isn't really ideal for osu!.
RaneFire
Cursor drift from relative positioning. Every now and then a wild miss appears on some easy part and I just sit there looking at my screen. :|

I'm kinda over it now since there is a tablet on my desk for ages now, might as well...

I still miss most of the harder patterns I could do with a mouse-only, but I can feel myself improving and my consistency is definitely much better. If I can FC a map, most times it gets FC'd. I can move onto the harder stuff a bit easier now too... cursor drift got real bad on songs that were too fast-paced for me, and this caused many a stutter/miss while streaming with mouse-only since posture of the fingers is quite important for consistent high speed.

And thanks for saving any unsuspecting newbie from that post.
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