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20+ Notes Per Second, really ?

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AlphaWaves
84 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
AlphaWaves
Hi everyone,

According to this, rrtyui is able to tape 20 Notes Per Second

(150 BPM . 1/4 = 10 NPS, .DoubleTime = 20 NPS).

How come ? I know i cant tape really fast (always doubletapping though), it starts to be hard at arround 12 NPS.
So I actually dont see how it is possible to tape 20 NPS.
Is he using any special devices (I know its much easier to fast tape with good touchepads) or softwares (triple / quadruple taping using HotKeySet, keyshark or any other softwares) , or just his fingers fast as f**k ?

Any advice to tape dat fast please ? :D
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,936 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral
DT is a 50% speed increase, not 100%

so it would be 15 nps, by your logic
-GN
Champion Above Champions
734 posts
Joined June 2011
-GN
Doubletime has a 1.5 multiplier, not 2, so it's 15 NPS instead of 20. There are a select few maniacs who can do 20 NPS(accurately), but they're rare. rrtyui uses a normal mehanical keyboard, and he's in the vast majority. It's just fast fingers.

As for tips on how to stream faster(as it's called around here), practice hard and practice often. Building stream speed is about challenging your physical limits and also drinking coffee.
AlphaWaves
84 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
AlphaWaves
Oh, didnt know nor realized since i dont play much DT.

Then it makes sense, yet 15 NPS looks fast but not impossible :D.

still looking for advices though :)

EDIT : To GN, thanks :)
Spare
71 posts
Joined December 2012
Spare
rrtyui is a very fast player and is able to surpass many players \:D/
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Jenny
at 220+ BPM it's getting fast :s
Loves
446 posts
Joined December 2012
Loves
Rrtyui is literally the 2nd best player.
jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412

Lily-Kun wrote:

Rrtyui is literally the 2nd best player.
rip in peace niko ;_;
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

Lily-Kun wrote:

Rrtyui is literally the 2nd best player.
rip in peace niko ;_;
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
rip in pieces niko ;_;
Tom94
osu!dev
750 posts
Joined August 2012
Tom94

Kanye West wrote:

rip in pieces niko ;_;
I just wanted to write that. ;_;
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Always had this question:

270 BPM stream would be 270 x 4 = 1080 beats a minute which would mean 1080 / 60 = 18 beats per second. Does that mean that when someone is streaming at 270 BPM he is actually pressing 18 keys a second? Like I can do Mad Machine but I seriously doubt I can do 18 beats a second...
Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare
Yeah, rip Niko.
I wonder about rrt being the 2nd best though. We still have Pancake.
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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Loves
446 posts
Joined December 2012
Loves
Poor Niko :/
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

Zarerion wrote:

Yeah, rip Niko.
I wonder about rrt being the 2nd best though. We still have Pancake.
the way pancake plays right now hes not even close to 2nd
Loves
446 posts
Joined December 2012
Loves

silmarilen wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

Yeah, rip Niko.
I wonder about rrt being the 2nd best though. We still have Pancake.
the way pancake plays right now hes not even close to 2nd
Don't insult my onee-chan you baka!

*bright red*
ct_warrior
29 posts
Joined August 2012
ct_warrior
Streaming 300 bpm accurately has been done in many other rhythm games, even in DDR/ITG I think.
Raging Bull
2,785 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
With two fingers?
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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ct_warrior
29 posts
Joined August 2012
ct_warrior
Yes with two fingers. Try looking up a "Vertex Gamma AA spread" video or something.
There are points when only one hand is used such as the left-down-left-down patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyE6NPissaQ
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Loves
446 posts
Joined December 2012
Loves

BRBP wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

With two fingers?
I can stream 400bpm with two fingers...
I, also can stream 650bpm.
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
i can stream at 720bpm
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
thats not being able to stream 400bpm
thats being able to mash your hands on your keyboard
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy

silmarilen wrote:

thats not being able to stream 400bpm
thats being able to mash your hands on your keyboard
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
you're understreaming by a lot

js
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Jenny
use at least OD8 for anything you're meaning to be of any proving nature :v
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

Jenny wrote:

use at least OD8 for anything you're meaning to be of any proving nature :v
od10 best od
VoidnOwO
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Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN
I can stream 400 bpm if I can use 2 hands and don't have to follow circles too.
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN

BRBP wrote:

Considering the streams in mad machine last about 2 seconds, you can start like half second early, and end half second late, and suddenly you fc'd it but didn't get even close to 18 hits per second. Make a 100 note stream and try then.

Checked: short ones are 1 second, longer ones 1,5.
Even I have nomissed mad machine and I can't stream 270.



Just so you quit acting like you are amazing for using 2 hands <3
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
pro hd hr
Staiain
152 posts
Joined March 2009
Staiain

ct_warrior wrote:

Yes with two fingers. Try looking up a "Vertex Gamma AA spread" video or something.
There are points when only one hand is used such as the left-down-left-down patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyE6NPissaQ
This is basically a long stream with 1/4 notes spread on both hands but yea they do have several one handed alternate patterns which forces you to alternate 300 bpm 1/4, and several places you have to singletao 300 bpm 1/2 which is 10 taps per second per finger. have to add StepMania timing is way less lenient than osu, atleast od9 and below i think, so it takes way less speed to avoid combobreakers on a normal OD stream than equivalent in StepMania.

I can do some short 300 bpm 1/4 streams with alternating on keyboard but there's no way I can see 300 bpm longstreams being done that way, but I have seen several people mash/2tap it and get away with it accuarcy wise, idk why that is. 270 however isnn't that bad it just takes some stamina to keep up on.
ct_warrior
29 posts
Joined August 2012
ct_warrior

Staiain wrote:

ct_warrior wrote:

Yes with two fingers. Try looking up a "Vertex Gamma AA spread" video or something.
There are points when only one hand is used such as the left-down-left-down patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyE6NPissaQ
This is basically a long stream with 1/4 notes spread on both hands but yea they do have several one handed alternate patterns which forces you to alternate 300 bpm 1/4, and several places you have to singletao 300 bpm 1/2 which is 10 taps per second per finger. have to add StepMania timing is way less lenient than osu, atleast od9 and below i think, so it takes way less speed to avoid combobreakers on a normal OD stream than equivalent in StepMania.

I can do some short 300 bpm 1/4 streams with alternating on keyboard but there's no way I can see 300 bpm longstreams being done that way, but I have seen several people mash/2tap it and get away with it accuarcy wise, idk why that is. 270 however isnn't that bad it just takes some stamina to keep up on.
Getting Marvelous in Stepmania is close to OD10 (22.5ms Marvelous versus 20ms OD10), and he has a high Marvelous ratio.
A Good (combo breaker) is >90ms while OD10 is >100ms, so it's actually harder to keep up combos in Stepmania.

The guy in the video can definitely stream 300 BPM 1/4 with one hand without gimmicks like vibrating or mashing, but I guess you can't ascertain that from that specific video. You can check out his latest video if you're not convinced.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut
you are quoting the guy in the video , ct_warrior.
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