-Bakari- wrote:

Hi, Gabe!

♥

Gabe wrote:

I've started doing an IRCmod with tiger. I'm going to edit this post with the log and further suggestions.
Edit: So I updated the map, here's the full mod, and the savelog:

Log

20:18 Gabe: tiger let's try this by irc  
20:18 eLtigreXXx: oks
20:19 Gabe: 00:02:829 (1)- This slider, it's alright the way it is, but it could be improved. The red node makes it a bit odd..
20:20 Gabe: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556523
20:20 Gabe: Want the code for it? o:
20:21 eLtigreXXx: done c:
20:22 Gabe: alright
20:23 Gabe: 00:05:604 (1)- The whistle at the beginning of the slider, should it be deleted and after that, added to the 
20:23 Gabe: beginning of the slider (3)?
20:23 Gabe: I personally think you should do that, by seeing Sallad's Normal
20:24 Gabe: 00:08:378- Like said for this point ^, but delete it
20:24 Gabe: it should have been added to 00:10:112, but there's no slider or circles to add it..
20:25 Gabe: 00:12:887- Add a whistle here to keep the consistency with your previous hitsounds placed on this tick, and to 
20:25 Gabe: keep the consistency with Normal
20:27 Gabe: 00:11:153 (1,2,3)- highlight these circles and after, move them one grid up. By doing this, the slider (1) will be 
20:27 Gabe: aligned with the previous slider (2)
20:27 Gabe: Tell me when you're done
20:31 eLtigreXXx: done
20:31 Gabe: 00:17:742 (2)- For this circle, the current flow with the previous slider isn't pretty good since the slider is curved 
20:31 Gabe: and you placed this circle aligned with the previous slider. So, the flow isn't good. I am suggesting you to fix this by
20:31 Gabe:  maybe, moving this circle some grids up, I suggest you three grids up.
20:33 Gabe: oh also, make sure the spacing is consistent, if it breaks the consistency
20:33 eLtigreXXx: done
20:35 Gabe: 00:27:800 (1)- For an Easy difficulty, I don't suggest to stack any objects. That may confuse beginner players and 
20:35 Gabe: it also doesn't look pretty good. So, you could move it to x:320 y:236 and then, you could rotate this slider by 
20:35 Gabe: 45degres to make it symmetrical
20:36 Gabe: if it gets unsymmetrical, try to reform the slider a bit to make it symmetrical
20:40 eLtigreXXx: done
20:40 Gabe: You fixed the next objects afterward?
20:42 Gabe: tiger?
20:42 Gabe: you fixed the next objects?
20:43 eLtigreXXx: ando en eso
20:43 eLtigreXXx: wait c::::
20:43 Gabe: oh, ok
20:43 Gabe: oh, you're doing it. alright
20:44 Gabe: Erm.. do you think I should do the rest on a post?
20:45 eLtigreXXx: yes ;^;
20:45 eLtigreXXx: http://puu.sh/1JERi ?
20:45 Gabe: go in test mode to see if 00:27:800 (1)- goes offscreen
20:45 Gabe: just to make sure
20:46 Gabe: I will to take a shower, I will do the rest on a post~

Tiger, there's some things I've told you on IRC that you should have kept, anyways, here's the mod: I was a little confused with translation x.x

Easy

Flows/Emplacements of the objects
To make sure there's no random jumps, has great flows, do not have random objects placed on the timeline that doesn't fit with the song;

1. 00:13:927 (1) - I have nothing against this slider, but would you like to improve it a bit? For an example.. you could make it more curved: done
   
   Example

   
2. 00:21:904 (4) - The flow with the previous slider isn't good at all and it would be better if it was perfectly aligned with it. So highlight this circle and the next slider and move it to x:188 y:304. done
3. 00:35:083 (3,1) - Erm.. How to say.. The flow here looks very weird. The slider (3) goes at the left went you actually need to go at the right. The nicest thing you could do here, is to Rotate it 90degres Anticlockwise and move it to x:44 y:176 and then, for the next objects,done I do not recommend adding stacks on Easy difficulty, like I told you ingame. So: 00:38:205 (2,1) - these objects will be easy to move. I suggest you to do something like this:done
   
   Example

   
4. 00:56:239 (1,2) - Stacks. Instacks these objects to avoid beginner's confusion.done
5. 01:05:604 (5) - This will sound a bit nazi but, move this slider one grid right to make it perfectly aligned with the previous object.done
6. 01:30:922 (3,1) - It like I told you for 00:35:083 (3,1) -, this to make another thing to make a better flow.done
7. 01:37:164 (1,2) - Unstack these objects.done
8. 01:46:182 (2,3) - Unstack these objects toodone
9. 01:58:320 (5) - It will look better, have a better flow if this circle is placed to x:152 y:308done

Hitsounds
In case there's inconsistencies with your hitsounds, useless hitsounds. I may also suggest you some things to make your hitsounds better;

1. 00:05:604 - On the IRC-mod, I told you to delete it, but keep it! It keeps the consistency with your previous bid-downbeats.DONE
2. 00:07:338 - Since this slider sounds a bit empty and inconsistent with 00:12:887, I suggest you to add a whistle here. To be honest, it sounds good with the bass in the background of the song.DONE
3. 00:11:153 - Seems like you forgot to add a whistle here. I really recommend you to add one here because if not, your hitsounds won't be consistent. Most of your whistles are on a big-downbeat, so why skipping this one? DONE
4. 00:13:927 - Add a whistle on the slider's head (at the beginning of the slider) like said on the previous suggestion.DONE
5. 00:14:968 - Delete this whistle, it's not consistent with your current hitsounds.DONE
6. 00:16:702 - To keep the consistency, add a whistle at the beginning of the slider; 00:17:742 (2) - Since this circle's hitsound is not consistent with your previous sounds, delete it and add it to 00:18:436 instead.DONE
7. 00:25:026 - It sounds a bit empty here.. would you mind to add a whistle here? It won't be empty and it will also keep the consistency with most of your big-downbeats.DONE
8. 00:25:719 - For this one, it was a bit odd since I thought you add a clap (which makes it consistent with your previous upbeats hitsounds), so I would have suggest you to add some more volume to emphasize it more since we couldn't hear it but then, I saw that there was no claps at all. So, actually, add a clap here to keep the consistency with your upbeats hitsounds (which is a clap)DONE
9. 00:27:800 - For this slider's beginning and slider's end, add whistles. It will keep the consistency with the suggestions above and I personally think it sounds good :3DONE :3
10. 00:33:349 - For here, it sounds very empty and inconsistent. Make sure to add a whistle to make it consistent!DONE
11. 00:34:390 - Delete the whistle here, it isn't consistent and also, you already have a whistle on the next object. So it sounds a bit weird..DONE
12. 00:36:124 - Add a whistle for the consistency.DONE
13. 00:41:673 - Add a whistle for the consistency.DONE
14. 00:44:448 - To start the kiai time in beauty, replace the whistle by a finish.DONE
15. 00:45:141 - Why, suddenly, these claps are replaced by whistles? On every upbeats (which is the second and the fourth line of the timeline), replace the whistles by claps. By doing this, it will sound more better and it will emphasize the sound that has the upbeats. After you're done with that, call me back. I will see if they're consistent and if you haven't missed something. Do the change for the whole kiai time. I just see that the second Kiai time has claps instead of whistles. If you don't understand what I said here, take a look to your second kiai time. It's a perfect example.oks DONE
16. 01:21:211 - Add a clap here to keep the consistency with your upbeats sounds, I think you simply forgot this one..DONE
17. 01:26:066 (3) - At the beginning of the slider, to make it consistent, add a whistle. At the end of the slider, like I said to 00:44:448 - , replace the whistle by a finish since it's the beginning of a kiai time.DONE
18. 01:40:633 - Seems you forgot to add a clap here, make it consistent by adding one here.DONE
19. 01:49:997 - Replace it by a whistle, having two claps seems to sound a bit odd owoDONE

New combos
New combos are one of the things I think it's important for a beatmap. Combos shouldn't be overused, have too much objects in a combo and should fit with the song;

1. 00:41:673 (3) - Previously, you added new combos on every big-downbeats points, right now, there's no new combo and it should have one since the current object is a slider and it's pretty long. Add a new combo.DONE
2. 00:47:916 (3) - The combo is actually pretty long and it doesn't keep the consistency of your New Combos at the beginning.DONE
3. 00:52:771 (3) - Same thing as said above and do the same thing for these objects:DONE
   
   1. 00:58:320 (3) - DONE
   2. 01:01:095 (5) - For this one, add a new combo and delete the next comboDONE
   3. 01:03:870 (3) - DONE
4. 01:20:517 (4) - I suggest you to add a new combo here since the current one seems to be a bit long, and yeah..DONE
5. 01:26:066 (3) - Do the same thing as I said for 00:41:673 (3) -DONE
6. 01:34:390 (3) - Add a new combo hereDONE
7. 01:43:407 (3) - Add a new combo at this circle and delete the combo on the next objectDONE
8. 01:46:182 (2) - Add a new comboDONE
9. 01:56:586 (3) - Add a new combo here like you've already done to 01:12:887 (1) -DONE

ezek wrote:

Modding only the tiger's diff as he requested [In spanish]
eLtXXx's Easy
Aver..
Y si añades algunos hitsonds a los ticks de los sliders largos? como 00:27:800 (1) - y ya sabras cuales otros. - you mean custom sliderticks, right? Well. I'd recommend to avoid them if it's possible, because they can confuse beginners. I mean, you're playing map and then OMGCUSTOMHITSOUNDSTRESS will make beginners fail.
00:05:604 (1) - No le encuentro sentido que hayas puesto esta forma de slider, no esta fea para nada pero siento que no queda aqui. Mejor haz una forma como la de 00:02:829 (1) - ahh, nice catch!

TADAAA!!

00:45:835 (2) - En mi opinion seria mejor que no toque con 00:41:673 (1) - ahhh, c'mon it's here because of blanket with 00:47:916 (1) - and it's also doesn't confuse players. So, it's ok. Doesn't make any sense, imo.
00:54:159 (2) - Se me hace raro.. que tal: meh, there's an interesting rhythm! Violin is getting faster, and tiger is trying to follow violin by curving the slider, so.. it's not strange at all, imo.

ASI?

01:55:893 (2,1) - Y si les quitas esa forma derecha? why not?

Hmm..

Muy bien hecho... no se que mas decir.. XD

1. 00:11:846 - Replace the whistle by a clap, it kills the consistency with your upbeats hitsounds
2. 00:38:898 - Forgot to add a whistle here?
3. 00:47:222 - Replace this whistle by a finish. I just seen that most of your big-downbeats on kiai times has a finish instead of a whistle.
4. 00:53:465 - Since this is an upbeat, it should have a clap, not a whistle. So, replace the whistle by a clap. Do the same thing for: 00:57:627, 01:01:789
5. 01:01:095 (1) - This circle has all the hitsounds on.. Let's do like Hard and delete whistle and clap. This circle should have only the Finish sound on.
6. 01:03:870 - Add a finish here
7. 01:03:870 (1) - This slider shouldn't have this kind of whistles, previously to 00:19:476 (1) - it goes: whistle, clap, clap, whistle. whistle, clap, clap. You should do the same thing here by replacing the whistle on the reverse arrow by a clap. Also, you should do like this pattern by adding a note with a clap to 01:06:297. So it will be like the previous pattern.
8. 01:31:615 - While we're at it, replace the whistle by a finish, it will be consistent with your next big-downbeats..
9. 01:48:263 - Add a finish here
10. 01:49:303 - Like said on the previous point: Add a whistle here and add a whistle to 01:49:997. Like also said on the point above, add a note with a clap to 01:50:690.
11. 01:58:667 (1) - Add claps at the beginning and at the end of this slider, it will keep the consistency with your upbeats sounds

Kawayi Rika wrote:

Recheck ~ No kds pls ~

[eLtXXx's Easy]

1. 01:09:419 - #1 kiai time should end to here,same as other diff.fixed
2. 00:41:673 (1) - Move to X:28 Y:288 is center. done ?
3. 00:41:673 (1,1) - Pls change same spacing to here. fixed
4. 01:23:291 (1,2,1) - ^ fixed
5. 00:47:222 - Remove finish and Add whislte,sound better to me. done
6. 00:52:771 - ^ done
7. 00:58:320 - ^ done
8. 01:31:615 - ^ done
9. 01:37:164 - ^ done
10. 01:42:713 - ^ done
11. 01:48:263 - ^ done

Yay ~ looks much better ~

Call me back again ~

Kawayi Rika wrote:

Recheck ~ No kds pls ~

[eLtXXx's Easy]

1. 00:47:222 - Remove finish and Add whislte,sound better to me.
2. 00:52:771 - ^
3. 00:58:320 - ^
4. 01:31:615 - ^
5. 01:37:164 - ^
6. 01:42:713 - ^
7. 01:48:263 - ^

Kawayi Rika wrote:

I just hate these finish really noisy to me and kiai time should be fix ~