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RikiH_
Ohai, m4m from your queue

Creepy song O:

Ambient

00:17:166 - It feels a bit empty here, maybe add a note
00:50:792 (2) - x:240 y:328 for making this pattern symmetric
01:02:660 (3) - Curve this more for a better blanket

Lounge

00:05:298 (1) - Actually it's a bit ugly. A slider with a blanket like this is better in my opinion
00:21:122 (1) - I don't know if you really need this NC
00:41:562 (3) - Ctrl+g? It flows better in my opinion

Collab

00:21:452 (2,3) - They are overlapped and ugly :( Fix please
00:22:331 (4) - This slidertick is noisy and annoying, can you silence it?
00:42:221 (1) - What about silencing the end of the spinner?
00:51:342 - You missed a note here, I think
00:59:254 - ^
01:10:573 (8) - It's a bit asymmetric. Fix this by putting slider's tail 2 grids down (x:180 y:44)

This is what I found. Awesome map :)
Topic Starter
Birdy

RikiH_ wrote:

Ohai, m4m from your queue

Creepy song O: - I thought this at first too, but the more I listen to this, the less creepy and more calm it gets. One of my favs at the moment, also.

Ambient

00:17:166 - It feels a bit empty here, maybe add a note - no
00:50:792 (2) - x:240 y:328 for making this pattern symmetric - it doesn't really need to be symmetric, but I'll make it different so that it looks better in an other way.
01:02:660 (3) - Curve this more for a better blanket - done

Lounge

00:05:298 (1) - Actually it's a bit ugly. A slider with a blanket like this is better in my opinion - done
00:21:122 (1) - I don't know if you really need this NC - removed
00:41:562 (3) - Ctrl+g? It flows better in my opinion - true

Collab

00:21:452 (2,3) - They are overlapped and ugly :( Fix please - fixed
00:22:331 (4) - This slidertick is noisy and annoying, can you silence it? - muted
00:42:221 (1) - What about silencing the end of the spinner? - done
This is what I found. Awesome map :)
Thanks!
Alltur
Star~

Akashi_S runs*

Good luck mapping xD maybe I'll mod it later x(
Loooctav
Hi! From me Modding queue!

[Ambient]
00:50:133 (1) Delete New Combo
00:50:792 (5) New Combo

[Lounge]
00:28:045 (4) NC
00:33:776 (2) ^

[Collab]
00:07:708 (10) NC
00:08:296 (1) Delete NC

Bye! Like Song!
Topic Starter
Birdy

ThoomyyxD wrote:

Hi! From me Modding queue!

[Ambient]
00:50:133 (1) Delete New Combo - no
00:50:792 (5) New Combo - no

[Lounge]
00:28:045 (4) NC - no
00:33:776 (2) ^ - no

[Collab]
00:07:708 (10) NC - no
00:08:296 (1) Delete NC - no

Bye! Like Song!
senseless NC suggestions, but thanks for checking anyway
Poggo
Hi ^^

Collab

00:08:924(4) - will be sounds better, if you end slider on 00:09:254
00:30:023(4) - ^

Lounge

00:11:562(2) - this slider not sound here~ better replace it on double slider 1/1 or 2 notes on white ticks
00:17:166(3) - make this slider more symmetric and put on centre Y http://puu.sh/1RVSH
00:19:803(2,3) - maybe make it more roundish? looks better for me http://puu.sh/1RVTO
00:37:935 - same as 00:11:562

Ambient

00:17:166 - this rhythm better follow for music http://puu.sh/1RVXZ
00:21:781(4) - better replace this note on slider 2/1 souunds better for me
00:34:309 - http://puu.sh/1RVZM

and don't forget correct hs ^^

It's all for me~ good luck :3
Topic Starter
Birdy

Katty Pie wrote:

Hi ^^

Collab

00:08:924(4) - will be sounds better, if you end slider on 00:09:254
00:30:023(4) - ^ - these two end on the kickdrum rather than on the hihat, so for me it's all fine

Lounge

00:11:562(2) - this slider not sound here~ better replace it on double slider 1/1 or 2 notes on white ticks - fixed in own way
00:17:166(3) - make this slider more symmetric and put on centre Y http://puu.sh/1RVSH - done
00:19:803(2,3) - maybe make it more roundish? looks better for me http://puu.sh/1RVTO - done
00:37:935 - same as 00:11:562 - I think this one fits, though

Ambient

00:17:166 - this rhythm better follow for music http://puu.sh/1RVXZ - fixed in own way
00:21:781(4) - better replace this note on slider 2/1 souunds better for me - sure
00:34:309 - http://puu.sh/1RVZM - no

and don't forget correct hs ^^ - i'm not really sure what this means >__<

It's all for me~ good luck :3
thanks!
787B
Hi ♬
Sorry for the waiting
From my Modding Queue

General
Seems fine.

Ambient
00:08:595 (2) - Hmm, I don't know, this slider is a bit off in the grid, and it's not recommended placing objects under the lifebar. Can you put that slider just a bit lower on the grid?
00:25:078 - Why no object here? Adding a circle/slider might improve the flow and consistency, since it matches with your previous patterns.
00:56:067 (2) - Hmm, I'm quite don't like how this slider was placed on 00:53:430 (4) - fading posiiton. This may be hard for some players, since it's probably the first overlap on the diff. I suggest placing at the same place on the beginning of 00:56:067 (2) - http://puu.sh/1Syqn Well, that might ruin your next objects, yeah, but you should consider placing that slider somewhere else imo.

Lounge
00:22:441 (1) - Well, I honestly think this spin doesn't play nice here, considering the fact that you haven't added one that previous diff, this spin looks kinda inconsistent, and besides, I don't really think it matches with the song. But if you have your reasons to keep that, it's fine.
Nothing much to add here.

Collab
00:09:254 - Why no object here? I felt "unsafe" when playing the previous slider 00:08:924 (4) - It feels like something is missing.
00:16:507 (2) - Try avoiding placing sliders that high on the grid.
00:27:386 (4,5) - Could've improved the blanket a bit more. Maybe giving a more considerable space between them.
00:30:353 - Same as 00:09:254
00:46:177 (4) - Pretty much the same as 00:16:507 (2) But this time I think you should move this slider since it's under the lifebar.
00:50:133 (1,2) - This stacks kinda ruin the flow imo, you could've worked on a better pattern, and besides, just look at the next objects and below my next suggestion, you can see how kinda repetitive that section is.
00:51:452 (4,5) - ^
00:52:770 (1,2) - ^
00:54:089 (4,5) - ^
00:55:408 (1,2) - ^

Good luck.
Topic Starter
Birdy

Wolf wrote:

Hi ♬
Sorry for the waiting
From my Modding Queue

General
Seems fine.

Ambient
00:08:595 (2) - Hmm, I don't know, this slider is a bit off in the grid, and it's not recommended placing objects under the lifebar. Can you put that slider just a bit lower on the grid? - done
00:25:078 - Why no object here? Adding a circle/slider might improve the flow and consistency, since it matches with your previous patterns. - no thanks, this is supposed to be an easier diff for beginners, not another normal-ish
00:56:067 (2) - Hmm, I'm quite don't like how this slider was placed on 00:53:430 (4) - fading posiiton. This may be hard for some players, since it's probably the first overlap on the diff. I suggest placing at the same place on the beginning of 00:56:067 (2) - http://puu.sh/1Syqn Well, that might ruin your next objects, yeah, but you should consider placing that slider somewhere else imo. - i don't see a reason, since it's clearly visible for almost 2 seconds

Lounge
00:22:441 (1) - Well, I honestly think this spin doesn't play nice here, considering the fact that you haven't added one that previous diff, this spin looks kinda inconsistent, and besides, I don't really think it matches with the song. But if you have your reasons to keep that, it's fine. - keeping it
Nothing much to add here.

Collab
00:09:254 - Why no object here? I felt "unsafe" when playing the previous slider 00:08:924 (4) - It feels like something is missing. - mentioned in my answer for Katty Pie's mod
00:16:507 (2) - Try avoiding placing sliders that high on the grid. - since it's not touching scores or hp bar, not changing
00:27:386 (4,5) - Could've improved the blanket a bit more. Maybe giving a more considerable space between them. - done
00:30:353 - Same as 00:09:254 - same as 00:09:254

Good luck.
Thanks!
Hellzero
Hi :3/
Lounge
00:13:210 (1) - add finish?
00:22:441 (1) - ^
00:42:221 (1) - ^
00:55:408 (1) - ^
01:05:957 (1) - ^
Ambient
The same as ''Lounge''
Collab
The same as ''Lounge''
00:07:606 (9) - Why so different spacing? It's very confuse
00:27:386 (4) - Too suddenly
00:45:408 (2,3) - Absolutely unreadable. I can understand how it play only in editor
00:50:792 (3,4) - and now anti-jumps
00:56:726 (4,5) - What? Why not jump? D: I'm really confuse
Well it's just my opinion but it's too hard to read
Autumn
Hi~SNB
M4M~

[Ambient]
Seems fine~

[Lounge]
00:45:518 (1) - Draw it like this might be better:

[Collab]
00:09:254 - You can hear the Click here.. add a note might fit it.

00:20:133 (6,7) - Actually using this flow will be more fluent during my test:
(And don't forget to adjust the sliders ^^)

00:27:056 (3,4) - Adjust a little to let the sliders point to the circle in the middle:

00:44:858 (1) - This note is just 2/4 beat after the spinner, which is kind of too intense, let the spinner ends at 00:44:199 might be better.

Actually the rhythm and flow remains the same from 00:50:133 to 01:00:353, which is alittle boring.Here is my suggestion:
You can hear the slight drum such as 00:51:287 and 00:53:924 and so on.I think you can use them to make the rhythm more diversified.For example:

Add a note at 01:01:891 and using the distance snap to notify the players:

This is just a suggestion.The rhythm is nothing wrong after all.

That's all. Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Birdy

Hellzero wrote:

Hi :3/
Lounge
00:13:210 (1) - add finish?
00:22:441 (1) - ^
00:42:221 (1) - ^
00:55:408 (1) - ^
01:05:957 (1) - ^ - just earlier removed all of them because they didn't sound well
Ambient
The same as ''Lounge'' - the same as lounge
Collab
The same as ''Lounge'' - the same as lounge
00:07:606 (9) - Why so different spacing? It's very confuse - i don't see why
00:27:386 (4) - Too suddenly - no it isn't
unless Ayu wants to change something, I can't really give kd... thanks for check anyway
Topic Starter
Birdy

Autumn wrote:

Hi~SNB
M4M~

[Ambient]
Seems fine~

[Lounge]
00:45:518 (1) - Draw it like this might be better: - i prefer current one

[Collab]
00:09:254 - You can hear the Click here.. add a note might fit it. - since so many have said this, i think it's finally time to add it

00:20:133 (6,7) - Actually using this flow will be more fluent during my test: - fixed
(And don't forget to adjust the sliders ^^)

00:27:056 (3,4) - Adjust a little to let the sliders point to the circle in the middle: - done

That's all. Good Luck!
thanks!
69653863
hi SNB (~o3o)~

Mod for mod request (ノ´∀`*)
Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

General
  1. What BG was that o.o)a
  2. A muted sliderslide will fits perfectly with the song.
  3. No kiai? I think you can add a kiai burst at 00:02:661 -
Ambient
  1. HP & AR +1?
  2. 00:02:661 (1) - Finish?
  3. 00:10:573 (3,1) - Try to make the blanket perfect?
  4. 00:17:825 (6,1) - Spacing bug. Move 00:17:825 (6) - somewhere maybe?
  5. 00:38:924 (4,1) - Fix blanket?
  6. 00:56:067 (2) - The slider end missed a clap.
Lounge
  1. HP +1?
  2. 00:02:661 (1) - Finish?
  3. 00:06:946 (3) - x:116 y:128 for better flow?
  4. 00:08:595 (2,3,1) - I don't think making perfect blankets by sacrificing spacing is a good way to go. It's just played weird.
  5. 00:22:441 (1) - This spinner is just unfitting.
  6. 00:34:309 (1) - The finish just out-of-sync. Remove it?
  7. 00:45:518 (1) - doesn't look nice imo D:
  8. 00:52:770 (1,2) - ...I don't think these sliderbow are nice. The second slider is just...meh
  9. 01:03:320 (1) - Another unfitting spinner.
Collab
  1. 00:12:551 (8,9) - Combine into one slider? Feels better imo
  2. 00:30:353 - Add note here?
  3. 00:33:979 (8,1) - Combine into one slider too?
  4. Ayu's part is flawless 0.0
Nice ambiental song. It's calming~
Topic Starter
Birdy

inverness wrote:

hi SNB (~o3o)~

Mod for mod request (ノ´∀`*)
Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

General
  1. What BG was that o.o)a - the official album cover, and it's not weed ;w;
  2. A muted sliderslide will fits perfectly with the song. - will think about this later
  3. No kiai? I think you can add a kiai burst at 00:02:661 - - ^
Ambient
  1. HP & AR +1? - HP fix, AR not
  2. 00:02:661 (1) - Finish? - I just removed them earlier, but I'll put it back for now
  3. 00:10:573 (3,1) - Try to make the blanket perfect? - done, I guess
  4. 00:17:825 (6,1) - Spacing bug. Move 00:17:825 (6) - somewhere maybe? - done
  5. 00:38:924 (4,1) - Fix blanket? - but it's fine
  6. 00:56:067 (2) - The slider end missed a clap. - thanks, sometimes I keep forgetting ;w;
Lounge
  1. HP +1? - sure
  2. 00:02:661 (1) - Finish? - same as on ambient
  3. 00:06:946 (3) - x:116 y:128 for better flow? - yup
  4. 00:08:595 (2,3,1) - I don't think making perfect blankets by sacrificing spacing is a good way to go. It's just played weird. - okay then, adjusted it a bit ;w;
  5. 00:22:441 (1) - This spinner is just unfitting. - mapped things
  6. 00:34:309 (1) - The finish just out-of-sync. Remove it? - yeah, this was apparently an error
  7. 00:45:518 (1) - doesn't look nice imo D: - does look fine IMO
  8. 00:52:770 (1,2) - ...I don't think these sliderbow are nice. The second slider is just...meh - okay then
  9. 01:03:320 (1) - Another unfitting spinner. - mapped things again


Collab
  1. 00:12:551 (8,9) - Combine into one slider? Feels better imo - oki
  2. 00:30:353 - Add note here? - nu
  3. 00:33:979 (8,1) - Combine into one slider too? - nu
  4. Ayu's part is flawless 0.0
Nice ambiental song. It's calming~
thanks!
Deni
General

normal : should fix
italic : suggestion
red: unrankable, have to fix

Hi, Modding this because I want to ! (^∇^)
helo :-)

As I said in private chat, imo the sliderslide should be silent for this map.

Folder seems to be fine.

Ambient

00:05:298 (3) - I think the repeat of this slider doesn't follow the rhythm well, repeat should be at 00:05:957.
00:53:430 (4) - This slider didn't overlap perfect like you wanted to do, here I fixed it so that it looks perfect! :-)
240,116,53430,2,8,P|316:176|452:124,1,240
01:09:254 (4) - The "clap" on the head of this slider is still a bit too loud imo, reduce volume! :-)
01:15:188 (5) - This slider looks a bit weird, maybe try to make a more beautiful one or a symmetrical?

Overall good diff for beginners!

Lounge

Sorry, I didn't find anything to improve!

Collab

00:23:759 (1) - If you use a finish here you should use it always at this point in the music like 00:13:210 (1) - or 00:34:309 (1) - to keep it consistent.
00:58:045 (1) - This circle should be at x:132 , y:180.
01:03:650 (1,2) - I can actually pass that jump but I think it's too hard, since the jump afterwards 01:04:968 (4,5) - is only 2.51x and this jump 3.62x.

Great map.

(ノ・ω・)ノ
Topic Starter
Birdy

Deni wrote:

General

normal : should fix
italic : suggestion
red: unrankable, have to fix

Hi, Modding this because I want to ! (^∇^)
helo :-)

As I said in private chat, imo the sliderslide should be silent for this map.

Folder seems to be fine.

Ambient

00:05:298 (3) - I think the repeat of this slider doesn't follow the rhythm well, repeat should be at 00:05:957. - no I don't think so :-(
00:53:430 (4) - This slider didn't overlap perfect like you wanted to do, here I fixed it so that it looks perfect! :-) - Not sure how to use this code, but fixed in my own way :-)
240,116,53430,2,8,P|316:176|452:124,1,240
01:09:254 (4) - The "clap" on the head of this slider is still a bit too loud imo, reduce volume! :-) - ok :-)
01:15:188 (5) - This slider looks a bit weird, maybe try to make a more beautiful one or a symmetrical? - I guess I did something :-)

Overall good diff for beginners!

Lounge

Sorry, I didn't find anything to improve!

Collab

00:23:759 (1) - If you use a finish here you should use it always at this point in the music like 00:13:210 (1) - or 00:34:309 (1) - to keep it consistent. - removed :-)

Great map.

(ノ・ω・)ノ
thank :-) u da best :-)
senaya
Your maplist is always full of awesome music. I love you for that.

Just throwing some suggestions:
[Lounge]
00:06:946 (3) - bend it the other way so it would face bottom, smth like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/587713. Cursor moves more natural this way.
00:22:111 (2) - how about this? http://puu.sh/1TTTP for same reasons.
00:33:979 (3) - suggestion http://puu.sh/1TTUy for same reasons.
00:36:946 (1,2) - this way cursor should go in an arc http://puu.sh/1TTXv maybe.
00:57:056 (3) - suggestion http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/587726 for better flow.
01:04:968 (4) - curve this one a bit? http://puu.sh/1TU2d
01:07:935 (4) - 5-10 grids to the right http://puu.sh/1TU2G for same reasons.
01:12:221 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - would be cool if you could remap this part so that last notes 01:14:858 (2,3) faced the center just before the spinner starts (since it's not a hard diff that would also make it easier and more intuitive to play). This is how I did it real fast: one+two, but you can probably find you own (and better) way.
[Ambient]
00:13:210 (1,2) - flow suggestion http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/587742
00:21:122 (2) - move this 5-10 grids down for same reasons.
00:40:243 (1) - I'd move it somewhere around here http://puu.sh/1TUeS
00:53:430 (4,1,2) - this is awesome :3
01:04:639 (4) - move this higher? http://puu.sh/1TUh5
01:11:232 (1,2) - curve the pattern? http://puu.sh/1TUhI
[Collab]
I'd say AR-1. It's waaaay too fast atm for this chilling track.
 
Ayu
SNB is waiting too much for me, he could've fixed enough things for me because I'm waaay to busy and totally not lazy :(
Topic Starter
Birdy
I'm rather busy too, so you can just tell me what do you want fixed and what not.

Checking senaya's mod when I have time.
Suzully
Hi, from my queue :D

[Ambient]

  • Increase AR by 1 makes reading notes easier, I think.
[Lounge]

  • Good.
[Collab]

  • I considered why I felt weird when playing, then I saw that's because of the inconsistent patterns.
    For example, refer to 00:02:661 (1,2,3,4,5,6), and 00:05:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10).
    They both have the same sounds in back. Then there's not a note at 00:03:869 but there's a note at 00:06:507.
    It's okay to use a different patten on the same sounds, but in this map, the beatsnap is 1/6 and it's kinda difficult to read the timing from distance overall.
    So I think it'd be better to use the same patten on the same sound in this map.

    Well, this is almost my preference, perhaps.
    If you want to keep them, I won't prevent.
    If you have some reasonable reason to keep them, I'll respect it.

    //
    // Belows are other story.
    //
  1. 00:27:386 (4) - I felt it doesn't follow the music well and it's kind of unexpectable.
  2. 00:39:254 (7) - Should be further from (6). Player misunderstands the timing.
  3. 01:02:001 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - They can be expected from the previous patterns, but spacings are too random and they're confusing. I recommend you to rearrange them a bit.
That's all for now.
Please tell me your opinion about Collab difficulty.
Topic Starter
Birdy
I thought it's better to have some changes, but if you say it doesn't fit in this kind of song, then sure I'll keep things more consistent.

Readjusted some things.

E: Further readjustments, I think everything's done for now.
Suzully
Thank you for understanding my thought. You did fix well, a map became better now.

Bubbled!
Konei
Ahh...
Err, sorry for being late >.<'
Anyway, as I looked at the map I saw you did really nice.
Great map :3
Aurele
I would like to point out something on Collab; 00:38:814 (6,7) - The spacing here is very confusing, while playing it at first, I thought the objects were consistent on the timeline by viewing the spacing. But then, I clicked it too early. I would like you to make some changes here so it won't be confusing. I mostly suggest you to make Ctrl+G with the slider (7), which will make an higher spacing, so we could know that it's not placed consistently with the three previous sliders.

So, it will do this;

Or even, if you want the next slider to make a flow with the slider (7), also do Ctrl+G to make this:

Nice map to be honest :3
Konei

Gabe wrote:

I would like to point out something on Collab; 00:38:814 (6,7) - The spacing here is very confusing, while playing it at first, I thought the objects were consistent on the timeline by viewing the spacing. But then, I clicked it too early. I would like you to make some changes here so it won't be confusing. I mostly suggest you to make Ctrl+G with the slider (7), which will make an higher spacing, so we could know that it's not placed consistently with the three previous sliders.

So, it will do this;

Or even, if you want the next slider to make a flow with the slider (7), also do Ctrl+G to make this:

Nice map to be honest :3
Really? :o
This part played flawless to me.
Anyways, increasing spacing could make it really more readable.
Suzully
I see Gabe's point. His suggestion is reasonable and I agreed.

SNB, feel free to fix that. I always can be back to repair a bubble.
Topic Starter
Birdy
Fixed in my own way, hopefully it's fine too.

E: Removed one "finish" from Collab and added one in Lounge. They should be the same in all of the diffs now.
Ayu
pls rebubble!!! :-)
NatsumeRin
[General]
offset +5 maybe... not a significant change but it feels a bit better to me...

[Ambient]
well it's the first time i see people use CS2...
00:25:737 (2) - i think a 1/1 repeat slider may fit better here (pair with 1
01:15:188 (5) - why suddenly a special one here...

[Lounge]
well made diff.

[Collab]
00:09:144 (5) - shorten this slider by 1/3 and add a note at 00:09:584. i guess you're trying to follow the irregular drum, so ignore the one at 00:09:474 - seems pointless.
00:12:111 - same thing here.
00:20:023 - ^
00:22:331 (4) - well..
00:40:243 (3,4,5) - the beat change here is a bit hard to notice, though it probably won't cause playing problem (both are sliders), i still hope you could think of some better way of it.
00:45:408 (2,3) - honestly... such patterns are surely playable, but i don't see the point to put them this far... plus you have some other patterns with similar placement but different beats 00:56:067 (3,4,5) - In the rest i can see you place the 1/1 note right after the slider close, then 1/1 after the note far away... but well, 00:44:858 (1) - 00:49:474 (6) - this part do feel strange to me...
Topic Starter
Birdy
Did my best fixing things again. I don't see a problem with CS2, btw. Nor do I see a problem with the current offset.

E: Removed silenced sliderticks. The map should have no need for them anymore since I shortened the sliders from NatsumeRin's mod.
NatsumeRin
I guess i could rebubble and leave it for Suzully.
Suzully
Ranked
-Neipezi
congratz :oops:
Konei
Congratz SNB :3
DarknessAngel
congrats ! :)
F m L_old
Onneaaaaaaaaa
Deni
helo :-)

congrats SNB! :D
Aurele
Wtf with the userrating?
Congratz SNB!
Backfire
Those ratings o_o
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