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Infected Mushroom - Killing Time (feat. Perry Farrell)

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stefan's easy

00:28:322 - you must you can delete this inherit
01:00:211 - ^ also, how about making a custom break here?

01:28:656 (4) - remove this slider and make it again with the new algorithmic, will look better
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1st curve point x280 y288
2nd curve point x116 y324
3rd curve point x152 y160

02:18:434 (1) - use tiny grid and move it to the centre, it wont hurt ^^

bci's normal

you are using too many claps and whistles in the white tick in the start of the map, consider reducing them because hitsounding affects taiko mode

00:23:322 (5) - move last curve point 2 grids up, and 1 grid right to improve the blanket
01:16:211 (3,4) - consider moving this notes a bit down, they are touching the hp bar and score

hard

i just dislike the "C" sliders overlaps a bit, but its about my personal preferences, all fine here

00:09:767 - since this is the hardest diff, i think this strong vocal should not be ignored

thats all i can find

good luck with ranking :)
Topic Starter
riffy
00:09:767 - not ignored, but skipped. i'm trying to follow background music at this pattern
no changes for MoeCI's diff, too >.</

anyway, you deserve your kd :3
Yuukari-Banteki
[Stefan]
00:43:322 (3) - add repeat?

[BCI]
00:48:434 (5) - spacing

[Hard]
nice
Topic Starter
riffy
fixed spacing in BCI's diff. i guess it was my mistake.
Now waiting for Stefan
Lally
la la la~ cookies and star for you o3o/°
Topic Starter
riffy
Thank you :3
grumd
— Overall
  1. Kiais are inconsistent. This is fine since mappers are different, but still I'd suggest to use same kiai in Hard as in Normal and Easy. It is a bit more varied and fits the song better.
  2. Your mp3 is 128 kbps. That's rankable, but what about a better quality one? Here's the link if you want: http://rghost.ru/42277670
    By the way, if you want to safely change the timing after changing mp3 (without catching unsnapped lines):
    1. Find new timing, compare it to previous one. You will get, for example +9ms or −13ms, something like that (bpm isn't changing while changing mp3 into different quality one). Revert timing to previous settings.
    2. Go to Timing Panel (F6), select all timing points (Ctrl+A). You'll see "Move selected offsets by" field in the top left corner.
    3. Write your number in the field (e.g. 9, -13, etc.)
    4. Press "Move". Voila!
    Don't mind if you already knew that, I will just keep this guide here for future purposes.
Hard
  1. 00:09:989 (1,2) - These two notes should be replaced by notes at 00:09:767 and 00:10:100. It follows vocal better.
  2. 00:17:323 (4) - Here should be the same rhythm, delete this note and extend the slider to 00:17:211
  3. 00:24:656 - You end this slider on a downbeat and miss a vocal on 00:24:434. It should be reworked to fit vocals better. After the downbeat vocal is lasting for quite a long time, so it is a good idea to place long slider there. Look at the screenshot:
    This applies to similar patterns: 01:37:100 (4) -
  4. 00:25:545 (4,6) - Patterns like that are a bit odd. Now, when we have new algorithm for slider creating, you should rework them with a better encircles. That should be easy to do.
    This applies to all similar patterns: 00:34:434 (3,1) - 00:36:211 (3,1) - 00:51:767 (2,3) - 01:08:211 (3,1) - 01:10:211 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - 01:13:767 (4) - 01:41:989 (3) - 01:49:989 (1,2,3) - 02:04:211 (1,2,3) - 02:07:767 (1,2) - 02:14:434 (1) -
  5. 00:45:767 (4) - Little spacing error here!
  6. 00:47:767 (1,2) - Maybe change them into a 1/2 slider? For a bit of variety.
  7. 01:18:211 - I think that here you'd better add a note for vocals.
  8. 01:22:656 (2) - This turn flows a bit bad, maybe make something smoother?
  9. 01:26:656 (4,1,2) - Here too. Also 01:26:656 (4) - this spacing is a bit too close.
  10. 01:31:767 (7) - What about an encircling here?
  11. 01:43:545 (2) - This note flows better if you move it down:
  12. 01:45:989 (2) - Remove this note and add a long slider here? That fits vocals better I think.
  13. 01:57:100 (1) - Well, just for aesthetics, move middle handle point to the middle (or use circular slider), now this slider isn't symmetrical.
  14. 02:32:434 (4) - Move this circle closer to the previous slider (1.0 not 1.1)
Normal
  1. 00:53:767 (2,3,4) - This mix of sliders and circles can be a bit confusing to beginners, I'd suggest you to extend the slider to make it a bit simpler:
  2. 01:16:211 (3,4) - These are covered by score numbers. That's not any good imo, move them down please.
  3. 01:40:656 (3) - This one doesn't really fit the music as good as it could. It misses downbeat, so... Try to make it like that:
  4. 02:30:878 - I think you should place a bit of accent on this position. Add a repeat to the last slider, move spinner start to 02:31:100. This will give a bit of kickback from the downbeat.
Easy
  1. 00:23:211 - There is no sound in the music on this place. This slider looks better extended a bit:
  2. And if you agree, I think it would be a good idea to make previous similar slider simplier too 00:15:767 (5) - , just extend it like that slider above. This will not follow vocal as good, but remember that it's just an Easy. It's rhythm must not be too tricky.
  3. 01:12:656 (2) - This one imo should be changed too. This fits the overall difficulty better if you simplify it:
  4. 01:26:878 (3,1) - Here you set 1.0x instead of 0.8x as everywhere. Change this to 0.8x
  5. 01:28:656 (1) - Also what about using new circular sliders for this one? It will make it prettier (just use 3 points to make a slider).
  6. 01:44:656 (1) - I'd recommend to use 0.8 here too. Just be consistent.
  7. 00:40:656 (1) - Here too, it's 1.3, even kinda a jump. Change the spacing to normal 0.8 please.
  8. 00:50:878 (2) - Why is this note marked as Soft? Change this to Normal please.
  9. 00:58:434 (4) - Maybe add one repeat to this slider? To start the break at the same spot as other diffs do.
  10. 01:57:100 (4) - Try to curve this in different direction (up)? This flows a bit better imo.
  11. 02:07:767 (1) - That slight overlap with (3) looks kinda odd, try to rework this part.
Well, I hope that's all.
Topic Starter
riffy
Thank you!

grumd wrote:

— Overall
  1. Kiais are inconsistent. This is fine since mappers are different, but still I'd suggest to use same kiai in Hard as in Normal and Easy. It is a bit more varied and fits the song better. but.. i don't like fountains D: I'm trying to avoid them and i kinda like my kiais
  2. Your mp3 is 128 kbps. That's rankable, but what about a better quality one? Here's the link if you want: http://rghost.ru/42277670 meh.. my connection sucks and i'm unable to upload HQ mp3s. that's why I use LOWEST possible bitrate, sorry. >.</
    By the way, if you want to safely change the timing after changing mp3 (without catching unsnapped lines):
    1. Find new timing, compare it to previous one. You will get, for example +9ms or −13ms, something like that (bpm isn't changing while changing mp3 into different quality one). Revert timing to previous settings.
    2. Go to Timing Panel (F6), select all timing points (Ctrl+A). You'll see "Move selected offsets by" field in the top left corner.
    3. Write your number in the field (e.g. 9, -13, etc.)
    4. Press "Move". Voila!
    Don't mind if you already knew that, I will just keep this guide here for future purposes.
Hard
  1. 00:09:989 (1,2) - These two notes should be replaced by notes at 00:09:767 and 00:10:100. It follows vocal better. ~
  2. 00:17:323 (4) - Here should be the same rhythm, delete this note and extend the slider to 00:17:211 ~
  3. 00:24:656 - You end this slider on a downbeat and miss a vocal on 00:24:434. It should be reworked to fit vocals better. After the downbeat vocal is lasting for quite a long time, so it is a good idea to place long slider there. Look at the screenshot: i'm trying to mix vocals and music here. it should be like this, imo
    This applies to similar patterns: 01:37:100 (4) - similar. keeping as is to be consistent.
  4. 00:25:545 (4,6) - Patterns like that are a bit odd. Now, when we have new algorithm for slider creating, you should rework them with a better encircles. That should be easy to do. ;_; new slider design feels wrong here. I'm trying to keep something softer D:
    This applies to all similar patterns: 00:34:434 (3,1) - 00:36:211 (3,1) - 00:51:767 (2,3) - 01:08:211 (3,1) - 01:10:211 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - 01:13:767 (4) - 01:41:989 (3) - 01:49:989 (1,2,3) - 02:04:211 (1,2,3) - 02:07:767 (1,2) - 02:14:434 (1) -
  5. 00:45:767 (4) - Little spacing error here! ~
  6. 00:47:767 (1,2) - Maybe change them into a 1/2 slider? For a bit of variety. if you take a look at 00:51:322 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - there's sliders only. It should be something like HARD part with circles and calm part with sliders. It's fun, isn't it?
  7. 01:18:211 - I think that here you'd better add a note for vocals. and that's why I'm using Tick Rate 2 - tons of 1/2s are tiring!
  8. 01:22:656 (2) - This turn flows a bit bad, maybe make something smoother? uh.. sure
  9. 01:26:656 (4,1,2) - Here too. Also 01:26:656 (4) - this spacing is a bit too close. should be good now!
  10. 01:31:767 (7) - What about an encircling here? something different~
  11. 01:43:545 (2) - This note flows better if you move it down:~
  12. 01:45:989 (2) - Remove this note and add a long slider here? That fits vocals better I think. ~
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    empty here!
  13. 01:57:100 (1) - Well, just for aesthetics, move middle handle point to the middle (or use circular slider), now this slider isn't symmetrical. ~ right? o3o
  14. 02:32:434 (4) - Move this circle closer to the previous slider (1.0 not 1.1) ~
Normal
  1. 00:53:767 (2,3,4) - This mix of sliders and circles can be a bit confusing to beginners, I'd suggest you to extend the slider to make it a bit simpler: ~
  2. 01:16:211 (3,4) - These are covered by score numbers. That's not any good imo, move them down please. ~
  3. 01:40:656 (3) - This one doesn't really fit the music as good as it could. It misses downbeat, so... she's trying to follow vocals in SHAPE of slider and music in slider length
  4. 02:30:878 - I think you should place a bit of accent on this position. Add a repeat to the last slider, move spinner start to 02:31:100. This will give a bit of kickback from the downbeat. why not? :3
Well, I hope that's all.
fixed BusyCI's diff too!

Waiting for Stefan!

edit: fixed sliders!
Stefan

grumd wrote:

Easy
  1. 00:23:211 - There is no sound in the music on this place. This slider looks better extended a bit: Changed.
  2. And if you agree, I think it would be a good idea to make previous similar slider simplier too 00:15:767 (5) - , just extend it like that slider above. This will not follow vocal as good, but remember that it's just an Easy. It's rhythm must not be too tricky. Fixed
  3. 01:12:656 (2) - This one imo should be changed too. This fits the overall difficulty better if you simplify it: Fixed.
  4. 01:26:878 (3,1) - Here you set 1.0x instead of 0.8x as everywhere. Change this to 0.8x Fixed.
  5. 01:28:656 (1) - Also what about using new circular sliders for this one? It will make it prettier (just use 3 points to make a slider). It's okay so far. :x
  6. 01:44:656 (1) - I'd recommend to use 0.8 here too. Just be consistent. Fixed.
  7. 00:40:656 (1) - Here too, it's 1.3, even kinda a jump. Change the spacing to normal 0.8 please. Fixed.
  8. 00:50:878 (2) - Why is this note marked as Soft? Change this to Normal please. Fixed.
  9. 00:58:434 (4) - Maybe add one repeat to this slider? To start the break at the same spot as other diffs do. Sounds good.
  10. 01:57:100 (4) - Try to curve this in different direction (up)? This flows a bit better imo. Okay.
  11. 02:07:767 (1) - That slight overlap with (3) looks kinda odd, try to rework this part. Done.
Well, I hope that's all.
Thanks grumd, and congrats for MAT. :3
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Leorda
Hey there


[Stefan's Easy]
00:28:211 (5) - New combo for your combo pattern?
02:21:989 (2) - ^


[BCI's Normal]
01:45:545 (4) - Move 1 grid download for alligning the pattern? (nazi)


[Hard]
02:23:545 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern isn't circle perfectly. So make it like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/563557


Once you done, in-game PM me
Topic Starter
riffy
Fixed everything but NC at 02:21:989 (2) - [Easy]. We think that using two NCs in a row can confuse beginners.
Leorda
I've been infected by a poison mushroom D:

Bubbled
Aurele
L0L, Bakari, you're so pro~
Natsume
Gratz!
Gabe baka~ /me runs
Loctav
Time to pop a bubble.

[General]
@lol'd at BG image name.

Timing is 10ms late. I asked various persons and the opinions vary from 8ms-13ms late. I, for myself, got 10ms. Get someone else to confirm this, try it yourself. But current timing is definitely late.

"Stefan's Easy" is missing TitleUnicode and ArtistUnicode.


Are you sure you don't want to use a better MP3? grumd provided one, apparantly it got deleted already *sadface*

Also I agree that the Kiai time should be consistent in Hard with Normal and Easy. If you don't like the fountains, you should consider applying the kiais you got in Hard to Easy and Normal.

[Stefan's Easy]
Nitpicking on the way. Most stuff only appears a bit messy to me, since you mapped too much with grid and didnt correct the snapping and relied too much on it, resulting in many patterns looking inconsistent.

00:13:100 (2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing. Please keep it up to 0,8
00:37:100 (2,3,4) - even if the inconsistency is very minor, it looks messy when you see the different gaps between the hitobjects. please fix this - for the beauty ;D
00:49:545 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing
01:39:322 (1,2,3) - ^
01:49:989 (1,2,3) - ^
02:22:878 (3,4,5) - ^
02:23:767 (5,6,7) - ^

[BCI's Normal]
This diff appeared very untidy to me. The spacing varies a lot, which seems to result only in not paying enough attention to making it tidy. :C

00:23:329 (5,6) - patterns like this play totally awkward. They feel off when releasing and pressing the button again, especially because of the vocals. especially 00:24:217 (6) is wrongly snapped, since the vocals land on the blue tick, not on the white. TO ensure, that this is still playable as Normal diff, try this: http://puu.sh/1Noxx - you could also put two hitcircles on the red and blue tick, but I consider this as very difficult for Normal level. A slider works better here (even if it looks ugly with the tickrate)
00:24:656 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing
00:33:100 (2,3,4) - ^
00:35:322 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:52:662 (4,5,1) - ^
00:47:322 (2,3,4) - ^
00:47:767 (4,5,6) - ^
00:49:545 (1,2,3) - ^
00:53:767 (2) - ^ - also move this down a bit, makes it prettier imo
01:07:767 (2,3) - ^
01:17:545 (5,6,1) - ^
01:17:989 (1,2,3) - ^
01:19:767 (5,6) - ^
01:28:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
01:40:656 (3,4,5) - ^
01:53:100 (5,1) - dat jump, totally sudden, totally unneeded imo :C reduce spacing to 0,7x please
02:09:545 (4,5,6) - inconsistent spacing
02:14:656 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
02:19:767 (2,3,4) - ^
01:45:322 (3,4,5) - ^ - also move (5) a bit more to the left-down?

[Hard]

nice diff

00:52:211 (3) - shape this like (2)? Just an aesthetic suggestion of what I'd change to make it look more consistent.
01:26:656 (4,1,2) - the jump felt unexpected. Especially the sudden jump and then the stop-movement due to stack feels totally awkward. I'd suggest only jumping or only stacking, a mix of both, especially out of this sudden, feels really weird.
01:48:434 (2,3) - inconsistent spacing
01:50:878 (3,4,1) - ^
02:05:100 (3,4,1) - has this been done on purpose or is the 1,15x spacing just inconsistency? :C
02:06:434 (2,3) - same here
02:12:656 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing
02:22:878 (2,3,1) - the current position of (3) makes it look weird somehow. Move it down a bit? :C

Call me back when fixed and I'll recheck for a rebubble. Popped for timing issues. Please get confirmation for the new timing and readjust all inherit green lines to it.

grumd wrote:

1. Find new timing, compare it to previous one. You will get, for example +9ms or −13ms, something like that (bpm isn't changing while changing mp3 into different quality one). Revert timing to previous settings.
2. Go to Timing Panel (F6), select all timing points (Ctrl+A). You'll see "Move selected offsets by" field in the top left corner.
3. Write your number in the field (e.g. 9, -13, etc.)
4. Press "Move". Voila!
Aurele
Offset confirmation, related to Loctav's post above and some hitsounds discussion♫~
Topic Starter
riffy

Loctav wrote:

Time to pop a bubble.

[General]
@lol'd at BG image name. D:

Timing is 10ms late. I asked various persons and the opinions vary from 8ms-13ms late. I, for myself, got 10ms. Get someone else to confirm this, try it yourself. But current timing is definitely late. It's late. Getting confirmation for the new timing, atm.

"Stefan's Easy" is missing TitleUnicode and ArtistUnicode.
~

Are you sure you don't want to use a better MP3? grumd provided one, apparantly it got deleted already *sadface* I'm fine with current mp3 and I'd prefer to avoid re-uploading mp3 because my internet is EXTREMLY slow and laggy. it's almost imposible for me to upload this mp3 again :< I'm also think that this mp3 is ok, so keeping it for now.

Also I agree that the Kiai time should be consistent in Hard with Normal and Easy. If you don't like the fountains, you should consider applying the kiais you got in Hard to Easy and Normal. Some people have already mentioned the same thing. So, I'll fix it now.
As for my diff, applied everything. Thank you.

Status: waiting for BCI, Stefan.
BCI
rechecked the diff with 0.75 spacing + many nazi/some rhytmn changes (tl;dr all fixed) file was already taken via IRC so :<
Topic Starter
riffy
Fixed spacing and things in Stefan's diff, so, we're done.
Loctav
[BCI's Normal]

Still many uneven spacings, but only pointing out the real critical ones, since you notice them heavily when playing.
Please try to recheck everything again, especially in the 1/2 hitcircles in front of sliders, they have usually a weird spacing. Even if it's barely noticeable, I am sure some people will notice the uneven spacing.

00:20:000 (4,5) - inconsistent spacing
00:26:445 (3,4) - inconsistent spacing
01:45:556 (5,6,1) - ^
01:47:556 (2,3) - ^
02:22:000 - missing hitcircle?
02:22:222 (2,3) - inconsistent spacing


Also Kiai #6 ends on 02:32:556 - should end on 02:31:778 like in all other diffs

No kds for this.

Edit: rebubbled.
Lally
bakari baka :C

The right Title is:

Infected Mushroom - Killing Time (feat. Perry Farrell)


wiki confirm it too :<
Stefan
LOL Lally for BAT pls kthxbye

Also, Baka(ri), Bass already told you to fix the name. :c



Even when the Name wasn't right there, but whatever. /runs
Aurele

Stefan wrote:

LOL Lally for BAT pls kthxbye
And that pop icon
WHAT DOES IT MEANS
Lally
That i have the power OwO
/me runs


bakari ;_; <3
Topic Starter
riffy
Confirmed, Checked (iTunes, Wiki and some other online shops) and fixed.

Thank you.
Loctav
Gonna fix that bubble when I am back home.

Edit: rebub
Andrea
~Stefan's Easy~

Add at least a spinner so there won't be the same scores.


~BCI's Normal~

02:30:889 - Add a spinner and make it end at 02:32:667.

~Hard~

00:09:778 (1,2,3) - Wrong spacing.
Stefan
Removed 01:32:222 (1,2) - to keep a Break here. Also, Spinner added at the End.

SPOILER
osu file format v11

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376,190,150000,1,8,0:0:0
256,192,150667,12,4,152667,0:0:0
Topic Starter
riffy
Applied everything.

Nyandrea request!
Andrea
I think it's better to put the last spinner on the next white tick on Easy, fits much more imo.
Topic Starter
riffy
Whatever, fixed this thing for Stefan! For consistency and things, I think it fits much better, too.
Andrea
Looks good.

Ranked~
Lally
gratz \:D/
Stefan
Congrats
Kryptogram
Congratulations !! >//<
Aurele
♥!
Kodora
Gratz with rank, my friend!
mancuso_JM_
whoa! Finally!
Congratulations man! :D
XinCrin
Congratz Baka :D
Flask
C-Congratz !!!!!!!!!! <3
Kei
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Gratz !
Strawberry
oh this!! congratz!!~~ bakabakari~
Topic Starter
riffy
Sieg
Congratz :)
pw384
yah finally ranked ><
gratz~
Buccakazu
Good bakari :)
qlum
Always nice to see something non asian and non default pop on the radio to get ranked, especially when I actually like Infected Mushroom.
Rotten yellow
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Slow-ru
Awesome map and song, gratz
Topic Starter
riffy
thank you all :)
tiper
Поздравляю.
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