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jemhuntr
oh great I totally forgot about finding a mapper god to guide us in our ways. orz
I'll add that tomorrow since I'm back on mobile.

So, if you could speak clearly, if you could create awesome video animations, or if you are a mapping guru, we need you.

btw I'll start on some noob text based tutorials to speed things up.
jabberwockey

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

btw I'll start on some noob text based tutorials to speed things up.
I could help you with those ; v ;
TheVileOne
My format would have placed each video within the 5 - 10 minute long timeframe. Charles osu videos are 15-20 minutes, so 3 is cutting it a bit tightly. Lets discuss that later, we can't even start until we have elected someone to actually do the videos, and if we're making an official osu channel, then someone needs to make that as well.

So who can speak in clean English, has video editing skills, and knows enough about mapping that he/she can cover every part of the mapping process, and not just a few parts? Oh and don't use Fraps. Fraps will screw up osu if you try to record while going into test mode.

BTW I have no way to record without Fraps, and I can't play with Fraps running. So I'm out on the video making, although I do know a lot about mapping, particularly the parts related to the modding process and timing.

Edit: some other notes: I don't mind if more than one person helps out with the video creating, we just need people who can create a coherent video on a full aspect of some part of the editor or mapping in general. This could be a compilation effort.
cheesiest
tears of joy :' )
jemhuntr
any progress anyone? I'm still working on the text tutorials.
TheVileOne
Not that I know of. I think we should handle this like a collaboration project. We split the problem up into separate themes/sections, which will represent individual videos. We can then list them and have people take claim to which parts they want to try to record. When they have something recorded, we can then review it (and display it in the OP).

Our mission will be complete when every part has a video.

Edit: Maybe it would be easier to compile a general guidelines on what each part should include and what it shouldn't include, but we should let the video makers decide how to make it. theowest I suggest including more lenient requirements for participation and indicate this initiative as more of a community based task that anyone can join.
Nyquill
If you guys need help, I can try to lend a hand.
winber1
Me too.

koromo makes me livestream some mapping anyways because he wants to see me map >_> even though it's most boring process evarrrrrrrrrrr.

why koromo whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
MMzz
I'd do it if I had a decent mic. But on the other hand on terms of mapping there are already tutorials out there that explain a lot. All we should need to do is just display how to set up a beatmap and how sliders and notes work. Everything else is just style.
jemhuntr

MMzz wrote:

I'd do it if I had a decent mic. But on the other hand on terms of mapping there are already tutorials out there that explain a lot. All we should need to do is just display how to set up a beatmap and how sliders and notes work. Everything else is just style.
will you please post links for those? I can't seem to find it >.<
deadbeat
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3815 is this what you meant MMzz?
[Sean]
I'm willing to help. I originally was going to create a new Installation, Registration, and importing singular and groups of beatmaps, as well as alternative methods in installing beatmaps to allow users who don't quite understand how to do it other options. I did have all the recording and voice recorded with live movements, but my HDD crashed and all data was lost. My Mic quality isn't 100% awesome, but it's clear, and I've got a clear voice.

Chuck me something that doesn't involve mapping, and I'll give it a shot. I could even do something like "Tips & Tricks to improve your gameplay for Mice users". Just let me know where I can help.
- S a T o -
This is a great idea, I'm glad people are willing to do this for the newbies.

Osu! is not an easy game, it's pretty hard so getting this project done will help everyone a lot.

Bravo, Osu! community, I applaud you.
Kuro
Almost forgot about this... Oh and speaking of which, has anyone made any progress on anything?
Flanster
Heh I would love to make a video on the download and register part. Kinda love doing tuts.
Deni

theowest wrote:

Checklist:
  1. Make this topic | 11/12/12 | ☑
  2. Who will record the footage and their voice * | ☐
  3. Upload all videos (Preferable at once) * | ☐
  4. Translate them into different languages * | ☐
I would love to help you out with translating some videos into german! (subtitles) :)

Would that be ok?
TheVileOne
We just need someone to make a tutorial. If you're willing and can speak well enough English, please try to make something. It will only make it harder to make the video if we stress all these specific criteria I realize. so if we just create a sample video, I'm sure it will be suitable.

Here I'll help organize it.

Videos needed

Introduction to the Editor: All the buttons, shortcuts, and windows should be explained briefly. Please include Preview time, and Kiai time. Also it would be nice if this was an intro to mapping as well, where you cover how to view ranking criteria, how to submit a map etc.


Timing: BPM and offset explanation, Common methods, how to determine timing signature, dealing with multiple BPMs/ offset changes, things to avoid/how to tell if your map is on time/ what you should do when you've already mapped a song and you need to change the timing. (Throw kiai and preview points into this since its there)

Mapping to the beat: Make sure the beginners know the basics- Hitcircles, sliders, spinners and how they are properly used. It is probably a good idea to go into basic types of mapping(stacks, jumps and streams, types of sliders, using symmetry, linear mapping, abstract mapping, overlap, blankets, crossovers, gaps and transitions, combo usage) It would also be a good idea to compare and contrast a beginner type song from a harder to map song. Briefly explain things like slider velocity changes (dos and donts), and explain the basic differences between the basic difficulty levels. Explain what makes an easy an Easy, a normal a Normal, etc....

Hitsounding: Effective ways to implement hitsounds in your map. It should include the dos and donts of hitsounding. Try to cover the most common approaches to hitsounding (explaining basic music theory would be helpful). Remember to go into custom hitsounding as well and how it should be used.

Using the Design editor and the osb: Requirements are quite obvious. go through all the things one can do in this window, how to do loops, and other things that the common beatmapper may want to include. even more importantly try to explain what you should not do in maps.

Tutorial: Adjusting bitrate
Tutorial: Common ways to reduce filesize:

I think that's all we need for beginner mapping. Any additional videos would be for advanced mappers. Lets get the beginner videos finished first. Any takers?
MMzz
I could make a quick video on how to time beatmaps and tips on getting them almost perfect.
Starry-
Wow, this seems like a really great idea, and I'm quite surprised I haven't seen this thread until now. I wish I could help in any way possible, but all I know is I definitely don't have a good voice for a tutorial.
Kuro
@TheVileOne: Narrowed down to 7 videos then?

@MMzz: Added for timing! /o/

@Loliflan: Sorry, the focus has shifted to the basic parts of mapping, you can choose one of those? (Look at TheVileOne's post for topics for tutorials)
TheVileOne
Maybe we could introduce kiai and preview time into the Introduction video. Since they are important, but not really require you to learn how to time to know. It could also be the general things every beatmapper should know when they create a beatmap type of video. You could show the ranking criteria page, and explain common things like the Song Setup field etc. What goes in source, and tags, and what doesn't.
Nyquill
I can probably do hitsounding.
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theowest
Feel free to edit my OP, I've been incredibly busy the past weeks and I need a lot of motivation and energy to start reply and cleaning up my OP.
but in the meantime, feel free to edit it yourself. TVO, you should be able to do that here.
TheVileOne
I didn't actually think of that. I'm dumb. Fixed.
TheVileOne
Can we get some progress on this? Do you want collaborative mapping or not?
vipto
I am so proud of you guys!
You come here an say: Yea let's really do this! We'll put so much effort!


Look what you got so far: You got lists.
Topic Starter
theowest
We're busy people and this is all voluntary.

It doesn't have to be as proper, anyone can go ahead and make a tutorial of their own using our template for which video to make, etc.
The only thing that has to be done is start asking people who are willing to record themselves, to start recording.
I'm sorry I've kind of abandoned this, but as I said earlier, I'm occupying myself with other stuff right now and I really have to save up some time for this I guess.
vipto
Give some examples of the stuff you are busy with please.
deadbeat
work \:D/
Kuro

vipto wrote:

Give some examples of the stuff you are busy with please.
Pff o3o

Ever heard of life? =.=

I'm going into the U.S. Air Force soon for BMT and I don't have time to do a tutorial. I would if I could but I can't.
TheVileOne
And progress has been made!!!!
jemhuntr
hurrr it's our periodic examssss, I'll try to work on this in a few weeks, since summer vacation is nearing.

Edit: oh cool Kuro, I didn't know you've been a Rhythm Incarnate already xD
Topic Starter
theowest
I rewrote the OP and changed a lot of things. It's now more of a collection of video tutorials on osu! and all its game modes, but at the same time asking anyone to make a tutorial for it and helping out with what to include. If you're not making a video, you can help out by finding all the tutorials, posting them here and tell as many people as possible about this project!

with that, I think this should now be moved to Gameplay and Rankings where this topic also is t/3815/ as it's pretty much the same thing, but this is more up to date.

edit: this could very well be included in the wiki later on.
edit edit: great source for inspiration and guides to make video tutorials off of: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/56 and https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/13

edit edit edit: this t/99612 would be great for improving tutorials. I know there are some, so help out by sending them this way.
TheVileOne
I think we should move into the bug random mappers ingame to create videos for us stage.

I like this new formatting btw. It's very clean and precise.
jemhuntr
hehe wait a sec i shall make an HD skin for this xD
D33d
I wouldn't mind making a quick video sometime, but my biggest setback would be my voice. It's not very foreigner-friendly and when I try to work on my diction, I sound like a complete moron.
Dolphin
Hoy Hoy!

Maybe I could participate somehow! Will be good for me since I quit LPing! :)
Mithos
I'd do a taiko mapping tutorial if I: 1)Didnt have a speech impediment or 2)knew how to map taiko.

I guess I can help by saying that the information so far has been spot on and very helpful though!
jemhuntr
If you would like to participate, please make text based tutorials for stuff. I tried starting a voiceless video (captions only) but I couldn't finish it because I lack so much knowledge on mapping (and I don't know what to put on the captions anymore so yeah).
Xakyrie
Videos with explanations in voice is a problem considering we all don't speak the same language...I guess you'll have to make do with whatever strolls along here.

If you guys are making the videos, I can help with general scripting (and by that I mean coming up with what to say, how to present the information, chronological order of things, etc).

Some of the getting started/introduction stuff appeals to me, so I may do videos. I've been told I sound very professional and have a good voice for public speaking, so yeah. I also enjoy explaining and teaching things to others, so this is in my comfort zone.
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