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popner

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popner 2012-09-15T04:14:12+00:00

Hi ~ Mod request from My Queue.

Just suggestions:

[I can pass]
01:04:155 (4) - 低难度还是建议不要用多次折返

[220B]
00:39:780 (2) - 最好不要多次折返
01:02:905 (1) - miss a NC?
02:26:655 (3) - 不对称，可以调整一下：

[Hardy]
00:44:155 (4,1) - nazi - 没stack好
00:54:780 (5,1) - ^
01:08:842 (1,2) - 以为是和01:06:342 (3,4)一样的节奏
01:10:405 (1,2,3,4,5) - 感觉有点歪，用多边形功能？
02:49:155 (1,2) - nazi - 包围02:50:405 (1)不是包得很好
02:57:748 (8,1,2,3,4) - 稍微拉开点距离避免重叠？
03:07:748 (8,1,2,3,4) - ^
03:29:467 (1,1,1) - 可以不用每个都NC

[JauiPlKsp3]
96acc都会死，考虑减HP
00:47:436 (1) - 去NC
00:48:530 (5) - 如果不减HP，这里最好加NC
01:05:405 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这段建议缩小间距，因为音乐比前面弱，排列却比前面难
01:10:092 (4) - 和前面的距离比较容易误判为1/4
01:22:592 (3) - 又有stack又是half-backing，所以加NC？
01:39:155 (1,2,3,4) - 用和01:37:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6)类似的节奏和梗？现在这样感觉略单调。（特别是01:39:780 (3)这里没有跳感觉不好）或者把这两组梗交换一下位置？
02:23:217 (3) - 同01:22:592 (3)
02:25:717 (3) - ^
02:30:405 (1) - 建议ctrl+h一下
03:12:436 (1) - 去掉NC
03:22:436 (1) - ^
03:27:436 (1) - ^

That's all I can find. GL~

-Baby Strawberry-

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-Baby Strawberry- 2012-09-15T06:06:51+00:00

x847606653 wrote:
Hardy
那些slider的遮挡真的没问题么0.0 我也说不好啊。。。我觉得没什么问题。。。

谢谢mod！~

popner wrote:
[Hardy]
00:44:155 (4,1) - nazi - 没stack好 fixed
00:54:780 (5,1) - ^ fixed！
01:08:842 (1,2) - 以为是和01:06:342 (3,4)一样的节奏 这个怎么说呢，我觉得还好其实。。。
01:10:405 (1,2,3,4,5) - 感觉有点歪，用多边形功能？ 的确，5歪了
02:49:155 (1,2) - nazi - 包围02:50:405 (1)不是包得很好 嗯改掉了
02:57:748 (8,1,2,3,4) - 稍微拉开点距离避免重叠？ 还好啦这个
03:07:748 (8,1,2,3,4) - ^
03:29:467 (1,1,1) - 可以不用每个都NC 好看~

谢谢mod~！

又更新咯

giO-

giO- 2012-09-16T14:55:19+00:00

Hello, from #modreqs for Mod for Mod with Renard - Smoke Tower http://osu.ppy.sh/s/38149

General

The .mp3 file is 4.17min and all maps on mapset finish on 03:30:405 - , so i suggest to cut .mp3.
Anyway i did it for you if you will follow this suggestion. Here the cut mp3 http://puu.sh/15Fu6

220B

00:39:780 (2) - delete 2 repeats and add beat here 00:40:405 - , sound better to me instead of the slider repeats
00:50:717 (2,3) - maybe unstack? i think the pattern looks better if you do it
00:55:717 (2,3) - maybe same here as above ^
00:59:780 (3) - you forgot the clap here
01:21:030 (3) - clap? it sound nice
01:22:280 - also here, you should add clap
01:23:530 (2) - here too ^
01:28:842 (3) - remove 2 repeats and add beat here 01:29:467 - ?
01:31:030 (3) - clap here
01:32:280 - ^
01:33:530 (2) - ^
01:38:842 (3) - as i said on previous suggestion "remove 2 repeats and add beat here 01:39:467 - ?"
02:42:592 (4) - move this on x:368 y:152
02:52:280 - clap?
02:53:217 (1) - this slider sound a bit weird, maybe you should remove repeat and add beat on 02:53:842 - , that's sound better to me, if you do it just add clap on the end of slider here 02:53:530 -
02:54:780 (4) - clap
02:55:717 (1) - ^
02:57:280 (3) - ^
02:58:530 - ^
03:01:030 - ^
03:02:280 - ^
03:03:530 (2) - ^
03:06:030 - ^
03:07:280 - ^
03:08:530 - ^
03:26:967 - beat here?

Hardy

01:30:405 (1) - remove new combo and add on 01:30:717 (2) - ?
02:00:248 (3) - move this on x:284 y:196 , it seems almost overlapped to the previous slider on 01:59:780 (2) -
02:02:748 (6) - move on x:92 y:160
02:06:030 (2) - remove 1 repeat and add beat here 02:06:498 -

Good luck!

-Baby Strawberry-

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-Baby Strawberry- 2012-09-19T00:14:08+00:00

giO- wrote:
Hello, from #modreqs for Mod for Mod with Renard - Smoke Tower http://osu.ppy.sh/s/38149

Hardy

01:30:405 (1) - remove new combo and add on 01:30:717 (2) - ? don't wanna change it...
02:00:248 (3) - move this on x:284 y:196 , it seems almost overlapped to the previous slider on 01:59:780 (2) - i don't think that would matter... keep it for now...
02:02:748 (6) - move on x:92 y:160 its straight now...
02:06:030 (2) - remove 1 repeat and add beat here 02:06:498 - hmmm...nope...

Good luck!

thanks for modding~!

可能改了一点点吧。。。

JauiPlaY

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JauiPlaY 2012-09-20T03:09:02+00:00

Thanks for modding everyone! Some issues have been fixed.
Updated!

Leorda

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Leorda 2012-09-24T16:11:57+00:00

Hi there

[General]
* Your diff name makes people confuse which one is hard or insane diff. You should change it into difficulty name (e.g. "Easy", "Normal")

[I can pass]
01:20:405 (1) - The sliderpath is overlapped by spinner-osu, so beginners can't see the path clearly
02:30:405 (1) - Why you need a new combo here?
02:50:405 (1) - Same issue as 01:20:405 (1)

[220B]
03:12:905 (1) - I think this slider needs more wavy

[Hardy]
* AR -1? Your current approach rate are bit fast
* More than three unique slider speeds shouldn't be used

02:02:280 (5) - Remove whistle at sliderbody, it's useless

That's all I got, good luck

-Baby Strawberry-

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-Baby Strawberry- 2012-09-26T18:32:08+00:00

Leorda wrote:
Hi there

[Hardy]
* AR -1? Your current approach rate are bit fast ok
* More than three unique slider speeds shouldn't be used idk...i think it should be fine since its not that hard to play

02:02:280 (5) - Remove whistle at sliderbody, it's useless i changed some hitsound based on this.

That's all I got, good luck

thanks for modding~!

http://puu.sh/18RRf

wantuole

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wantuole 2012-09-27T01:42:09+00:00

[General]
根据sb上写的
I can pass是你自己完成的
220B是vivicat、beren合作
Hardy 是Baby strawberry单独制作
JauiPlKsp3难度是你和lks spboxer3合作
把每个难度对应的制作人写在歌曲首页能更方便的了解他们具体帮了你什么。
[I can pass]
ok
[220B]
00:52:280 (5) - 不要被之前的3盖住
02:50:405 - 这里的kiai开始音效有点低了
[Hardy]
很多有意思的遮盖
02:03:842 (6) - ctrl+r
[JauiPlKsp3]
ok
感觉lks spboxer3老师太善良了
整个难度的最难部分在开头JauiPlaY
这么分布难度总觉的有点怪

就这些祝你们好运
当然星星~

-Baby Strawberry-

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-Baby Strawberry- 2012-09-28T03:42:50+00:00

wantuole wrote:
[General]

[Hardy]
很多有意思的遮盖
02:03:842 (6) - ctrl+r 呃呃呃，这个我觉得现在这样比较好。。。

就这些祝你们好运
当然星星~

chaotic_iak

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chaotic_iak 2012-10-30T13:42:14+00:00

Unrankable, problem, plausible problem. Yay good stuff.

[General]
Neat skin, but slider ball is invisible so it might be somewhat a problem.
Seriously, is this song titled "Grim"? I don't find it creepy or sad at all

Why do you have a long outro? (18% aka 45s unused)
Also for storyboard (the texts of the diff creator(s)), maybe put it somewhere righter? At the moment some part (one or two first letters) of the text are hidden by the equally white background.

[220B]
Assuming this is a Hard diff, since otherwise there are a lot of too hard objects for Normal like stacking and 1/4-beat gaps (156ms).
02:41:655 (3) - Somewhat difficult to read. If this diff is Normal this would be a major problem.

[Hardy]
If this is Insane, then not much problem. If Hard, then you have too many unexpected slider velocity changes.

Err that's all? Nicely done map with neatly done storyboard+skin. Good luck!

mancuso_JM_

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mancuso_JM_ 2012-11-29T00:29:03+00:00

Hi JauiPlaY! :3. Mod Time from my queue

[General:]

• 220B and Hardy are Still submitted in format v9, so you need resubmit and transform it in format V10. Btw, I can pass and JauiPlKsp3 have an inconsistency in the Title Unicode and Artist Unicode, so you need to fix this too.
• Since you have completed the Circle Skin, you have to add the SliderBorder. Add this Code under your Combo Colours

SliderBorder: 255,255,255

[I can pass:]

• Why no Claps on the first part of the song? They sounds really fitting with the Instrumental and often these Whistles don't cover the Instrumental at all, sound much better Claps instead of Whistles on these places where appear Claps sounds on the Instrumental

• 00:39:155 (1): Add a Whistle on the Slider beginning because fit properly with the bells in the Instrumental
• 00:42:905 (2,3): Stacked Notes are often sudden to New Players, especially if you have a Note beneath a Slider. Unstack these for a better readability to New Players
• 00:45:405 (1): There is a high pitch in the Instrumental over this Slider beginning, for this reason sound weird this Slide without any hitsound. Try adding a Whistle here
• 00:50:405 (1): (^)
• 00:56:655 (2): The Whistle on the Slider end sound overused to me, I think that it is enough with the Whistle in the Repetition. Try to Remove the Whistle from the Slider end (And this is one of the situations where a Clap can work on the end)
• 01:04:155 (4): I know that the BPM is slow, but a 1/2 Slider with a lot of repetitions is Hard to read to New Players. You should make another thing, removing repetitions and adding another Sliders instead so New Players will not have troubles
• 01:04:780: And in this place should be a Clap to follow the Instrumental
• 01:09:155 (4): Same as 01:04:155
• 01:10:092: To be consistent with your previous Slider with a lot of repetitions, you should add a Clap here
• 01:14:155 (5): Same as 01:04:155 again
• 01:14:780: And.. Add a Clap here
• 01:20:405 (1): To start the Kiai, a hitsound on the beginning should work fine. Try adding a Whistle here
• 01:22:905 (2,3): (omg! Copy/paste

)- As I said before unstack these to don't cause any trouble on New Players
• 01:25:405 (1): I'm repeating stuff for these copy/paste, I really dislike the copy/paste, sorry. Returning to the mod, add a Whistle on the Slider beginning
• 01:30:405 (1): (^)
• 01:37:280: *Explained before* Remove this Whistle
• 01:40:405 (1): Hmm.. I don't know if this New Combo is really Necesary to the song and following your Symetry I think that it's better if you Remove this New Combo
• 01:54:155 (4): Try to do another thing to reduce the number of Repetitions
• 01:54:780: And here should be a Clap
• 02:24:155 (4): Avoid this please, as I said before
• 02:42:905 (3): I can feel the rhythm changing at this point, so a New Combo would be a good idea here
• 02:50:405 (1): I don't feel really necesary a beat over a Red Tick, if I didn't listen the music in 25% I couldn't listen anything. Would be better if you Reduce this Slider by 1/2 and then add a Note in 02:52:280
• 02:52:905 (2,3): Again this, unstack these Notes please

- It becomes preety repetitve this mod because you used a lot of copy/paste. Just try to check the previous points on my mod to add it then

[220B:]

Vivicat:

• 00:39:780 (2): Such a lot of Repetitions in 1/4, this can cause confusion in an Average Player. Try replacing this in 2 Sliders, if you do this will follow better the music.

SPOILER

• 00:50:717 (2,3): This Stack doesn't fit really well, try to do another thing, because this is not the best way imo
• 00:51:030 (3,5): Hmm.. this weird overlap looks bad in my opinion. For a better play and esthetic you should avoid that
• 00:55:717 (2,3): Same as 00:50:717, about this Stack
• 01:00:405 (1): This New Combo looks odd here, maybe it is better if you Remove this New Combo
• 01:21:030 (3): It doesn't follow the music very well the Slider end on a Blue Tick, I think that you will follow better the music if reduce the Slider lenght by 1/4 (So, this Slider should finish in 01:21:342)
• 01:25:405 (1,2,3,4): In this difficulty is better if you follow the principal Instrumental instead of follow the background of the Instrumental. To be sincere, I would like to reduce the Slider lenght of these Sliders in 1/4
• 01:28:842 (3): Same as 00:39:780, there is a lot of Repetitions in this difficulty
• 01:35:405 (1,2,3,4): Same as 01:25:405
• 01:38:842 (3): A lot of Repetitions here, so same as 00:39:780

Beren:

• 02:05:405 (1,2): I don't recommend to add Notes Under Sliders, because they are difficult to read in an Average Player. Would be a better idea if you unstack this
• 02:24:155 (3): What about to reduce this Slider in 1/2 and after that add a Note in 02:24:780? It sounds much better because you can remark all the aspects in the song
• 02:30:405 (4): Add a New Combo due to the music change and because it is more consistent with the previous break in the difficulty.
• 02:41:655 (3): Such a bad Slider, I'm preety sure that you can make a better thing here (this should be for esthetic especially)
• 03:14:780 (3): The transition is not the best here, I can't feel the usage of the blue tick really necesary here. This pattern will sound better if you reduce the Slider lenght in 1/4
• 03:20:405 (1): This doesn't sound really good, I can listen a better Rhythm if you transform this Slider in 1/2 (Without the Repetition, obviously)

- Well, is not bad, but the differences between Vivicat's section and Beren's Section is really noticable. Vivicat's section is much Harder than Beren's One. Since it is a Collab you should talk more about the difficulty to have a better consistency, because now, this differences of difficulty make the difficult weird to play. I suggest both to make the difficult of the map more equal than now to have a better gameplay

[Hardy:]

• 00:40:405 (3,1): I find more coherent this pattern if you Swap the Combo placement in these Sliders.
• 00:45:405 (1): Add a Whistle here
• 00:51:655 (T): I would like to know why do you reduce the Slider Speed here?.. The music it's going in a constant speed, I don't feel any change in the music. On the other hand, flows much better if you keep the Slider Speed here
• 01:00:405 (7,1): Swap the New Combo placement as I said before
• 01:06:811 (4): The Rhythm that you wanted to give here, sounds cut and bad. Will follow better the music if you move this Slider 1/4 back and then make it longer in 1/4 too.
• 01:25:405 (1,1,1,1,1): Omg.. This kind of patterns plays preety bad, it is really odd to play looking the Slider Speed Change. I really suggest you to change this..
• 01:35:405 (1,1,1,1,1): (^)
• 01:37:905 (1,2): This is unrankable because the player can not see the Slider lenght of the 2nd Slider. Try doing another thing here, so the pattern is correctly readable
• 02:08:373 (4,5): The Spacing change is just to keep the Symetry because the music doesn't need that here. Just mantain the Spacing as you did before

- This difficulty needs much more work, really. It needs a lot of improvements in the Rhythm, you can also try another varieties in your kiais sections instead of use just copy/paste in the Same kiai.

Sorry, but I can't finish with my mod. I can't mod this map because in General needs more improvements (and the song don't motivate me to continue). Anyways the last difficulty is the best one of the mapset in my opinion.

Well, Since I couldn't continue with the mod and because you had to wait a lot for my mod I'll shoot 2 Stars.
Hope this can helps you
Good Luck

NatsumeRin

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NatsumeRin 2012-12-16T06:44:54+00:00

[General]
I'm not sure but could you change those diffs names to some common one plz...?
This song is really quite, i doubt if the kiai is really needed.

[I can pass]
00:42:905 (2) - ...kinda ugly to me, maybe switch red/white points. there's some similar sliders too,.

[220B]
00:50:717 (2,3,4,5) - the overlap is a bit much for normal
01:15:405 (1,2) - maybe move the last point of 1 down a bit.
02:24:155 (3) - add a note?
02:41:655 (3) - make the shape clear a bit.

[Hardy]
00:51:655 (4) - 0.5 is too sudden here. as it's symmetry with 2 and have nothing special here, i really doubt if people could notice.
00:54:155 (4) - ^
01:25:405 (1) - no plz. at least move a bit every time.
01:32:905 (1) - is the sliderwhitle on purpose?
01:35:405 (1) - same thing.
02:02:280 (5) - remove sliderwhistle?
02:20:405 (1,2,3,4,5) - this shape seems too straight, any better flow?
02:22:905 (1) - ^, same thing to some following notes.
02:51:655 (4) - 0.5x thing
I think this diff needs some change really...

[JauiPlKsp3]
00:55:405 (1) - why only this one has 0.5x and different with the previous notes?
01:09:467 (3) - the previous 0.5x at least has a new combo there...
02:49:936 - add a note?
02:56:655 (1) - remove sliderwhistle

我觉得你在给我解释清如何判定0.5x之前我是不会泡的.

-Baby Strawberry-

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-Baby Strawberry- 2012-12-18T12:59:01+00:00

mancusojuanmattos wrote:
Hi JauiPlaY! :3. Mod Time from my queue

[Hardy:]

• 00:40:405 (3,1): I find more coherent this pattern if you Swap the Combo placement in these Sliders. yea sure, makes it much clearer than before
• 00:45:405 (1): Add a Whistle here i prefer not to add it
• 00:51:655 (T): I would like to know why do you reduce the Slider Speed here?.. The music it's going in a constant speed, I don't feel any change in the music. On the other hand, flows much better if you keep the Slider Speed here changed!
• 01:00:405 (7,1): Swap the New Combo placement as I said before yea
• 01:06:811 (4): The Rhythm that you wanted to give here, sounds cut and bad. Will follow better the music if you move this Slider 1/4 back and then make it longer in 1/4 too. hmm, i would say im gonna keep mine, urs are fine, and it is surely the most common way, but i would like to keep my thoughts.
• 01:25:405 (1,1,1,1,1): Omg.. This kind of patterns plays preety bad, it is really odd to play looking the Slider Speed Change. I really suggest you to change this.. haha this is the section i like the most, believe it or not. its suppose to be rankable right? anyway, i know its wierd, but still i wanna keep them
• 01:35:405 (1,1,1,1,1): (^)
• 01:37:905 (1,2): This is unrankable because the player can not see the Slider lenght of the 2nd Slider. Try doing another thing here, so the pattern is correctly readable what i did is pull them out which makes them tail to tail, that should be readable
• 02:08:373 (4,5): The Spacing change is just to keep the Symetry because the music doesn't need that here. Just mantain the Spacing as you did before well the jump is not that big thou... idk...imo i think its fine...

- This difficulty needs much more work, really. It needs a lot of improvements in the Rhythm, you can also try another varieties in your kiais sections instead of use just copy/paste in the Same kiai.

thanks for your mod~

NatsumeRin wrote:
[Hardy]
00:51:655 (4) - 0.5 is too sudden here. as it's symmetry with 2 and have nothing special here, i really doubt if people could notice.
00:54:155 (4) - ^ half spacing is fixed due to the last mod, sry about that
01:25:405 (1) - no plz. at least move a bit every time. yea as you said, i moved each slider 1 grid above each other, that would be ok right?
01:32:905 (1) - is the sliderwhitle on purpose? i would say thats a mistake :O
01:35:405 (1) - same thing. same method
02:02:280 (5) - remove sliderwhistle? indeed...
02:20:405 (1,2,3,4,5) - this shape seems too straight, any better flow?
02:22:905 (1) - ^, same thing to some following notes. i've no idea on this now... i tried a curved one, but its almost in the same way i would say.
02:51:655 (4) - 0.5x thing all changed
I think this diff needs some change really...

thanks for your mod~

update

JauiPlaY

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JauiPlaY 2012-12-19T12:50:03+00:00

Thank you mancusojuanmattos and NatsumeRin!! I've fixed those unrankable problems and some other things which I thought it's necessary to fix!
Map uploaded! /=3=/

NatsumeRin

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NatsumeRin 2012-12-19T14:24:45+00:00

bubbled.

JauiPlaY

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JauiPlaY 2012-12-19T14:29:58+00:00

3g oil~ \owo/

-Baby Strawberry-

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-Baby Strawberry- 2012-12-29T07:51:55+00:00

天啊这就泡了。。。

kanpakyin

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kanpakyin 2013-01-10T06:28:08+00:00

......才發現是ntr泡的, 如果是這樣的話就多等一周再來rank (mapper和bubbler都是中國人)

Strawberry

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Strawberry 2013-01-12T07:48:07+00:00

神谱!!!

edit:

02:30:405 (1) - 这梗感觉好坑...首先如果按照前面(4)的flow的话，这个slider理所应当是判断为向上的趋势，这个slider的大尾巴也是朝上的我觉得就更容易误读了。。反正我几乎次次断这里; A; 而且前面的(3)还起到了很好的遮挡效果。。如果可能的话求改啊lol

Garven

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Garven 2013-01-16T20:14:38+00:00

I started to mod this and got about 5 seconds in to the Easy before I found a note stacked under a slider end. wtf

JauiPlaY

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JauiPlaY 2013-01-17T03:36:44+00:00

I still have chance to change something before ranking, don't worry!

Garven

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Garven 2013-01-19T17:44:30+00:00

[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best.
Ma is difficult to read since it's all rather bright. Maybe darken the image with colorization a bit so it's easier on the eyes. This pretty much happens with most of the mapper names placed up there as well.

SPOILER

Consider using a more grey color for the slider border due to the hit circle overlay...

[Easy]
00:44:155 (3) - Don't stack under slider ends in Easy difficulties,

please
01:04:155 (4) - Having variable repeats on these short sliders is not newbie friendly. You go from 3 to 5 quite a bit, along with having notes one beat after these sliders are finished. This isn't newbie-friendly at all, and they're -everywhere-
01:20:405 (1) - Too soon after a spinner for an Easy. Give about 4 beats.
01:24:155 (3) - Stacked under slider end again
02:50:405 (1) - Too soon after a spinner
02:54:155 (3) - Stacked under slider end
03:14:155 (3) - ^

[Normal]
vivicat: The only problem I have is your use of 3-hit and 5-hit repeat sliders everywhere. It'd be best if you could use only 3-hit or only 5-hit repeat sliders. This level of difficulty is better used to introduce their use in the first place - using different values of hits is a bit much for a Normal.

[Hard]
AR -1 please. 8 is too fast for this map.
01:25:405 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - Uh, you're going to need to use tick rate 2 if you want to keep this.
03:29:155 (1,1,1,1) - No new combo spam please. Also I don't get the rhyhtm use here. It sounds bad.

[Insane]
This map also requires tick rate 2 if you want to keep all those huge speed changes.

[sp3]
01:12:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This pattern really doesn't reflect the smooth melody of the song very well. It's very jerky going back and forth like this.

[lks]
02:04:311 (1,2) - This flows better if 2 is ctrl + g'd since it follows 02:02:905 (1,2) -
02:31:655 - Really odd place to start the break. Makes it feel incomplete going into the next section that far.

[jaui]
03:15:248 (10,1) - This alignment looks poor
03:17:280 (2,3,4,5,1) - As does this spacing

The easy needs some major redesigning. The rest of the set is pretty nice though, once you get the proper tick rate in there.

kanpakyin

Global Moderator

4,231 posts

Joined June 2010

kanpakyin 2013-01-20T08:29:04+00:00

As requested.

[General]

As garven said.
Add silent sliderslide since this is a calm song.

[Easy]

00:44:155 (3) - Stack it perfectly?
00:45:405 (1) - This shape is quite ugly in my opinion. I would give a suggestion here:
Suggestion
01:04:155 (4) - Remove the clap from red tick and then add the clap on 01:04:780 - to fit your hitclap pattern and music.
01:09:467 (4) - Remove the clap from red tick please. It doesn't fit the music.
01:24:155 (3) - Same as 00:45:155 -
01:25:405 (1) - Same as 00:45:405 -
01:20:405 ~ 01:40:405 - 為甚麼這個部分和一開始那裡一樣...?只是上下顛倒了? 求不偷懶...求換梗
01:54:155 (4) - Same as 01:04:155 (4) - . Maybe for those clap, use a whistle instead of it.
02:29:155 (4) - ^

[viviBeren]

00:55:717 (2,3) - This is not newbie- friendly pattern because of the stack. How about considering changing it?
02:11:030 (2) - Remove the clap at the beginnning of the slider? It doesn't fit the music perfectly in my opinion.
Beren's part is well made.

[Hardy]

01:02:592 (1) - How about putting a new combo here because the symmetrical jump starts from here.
01:25:405 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - This is too hard for a hard difficulty. I would remove it and changing it to another pattern if I were you.
01:35:405 (1,1,1,1,1,2) - ^
02:10:405 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - How about removing the whistle on these note and then change them into normal hitsound.

[JauiPlKsp3]

00:40:405 (1) - How about adding a whistle at the end of the slider to fit the high pitch?
00:41:186 (3) - I would remove this note if I were you because there is no any instrument/drum sound to support that note. You don't need to adjust the spacing after fixing.
01:13:530 (5) - A finsih here?
02:14:780 (1,2,3,4) - 如果(1.2.3.4)- 的方向像02:14:155 (1,2,3,4) - 走的話..flow會好很多..個人意見

Call me back when this is rebubbled.

JauiPlaY

1,287 posts

Joined April 2010

Topic Starter

JauiPlaY 2013-01-20T12:01:45+00:00

Garven wrote:
[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best.呵呵...right.
Ma is difficult to read since it's all rather bright. Maybe darken the image with colorization a bit so it's easier on the eyes. This pretty much happens with most of the mapper names placed up there as well.
SPOILER
I don't think it's a major problem, afterall we all know that is a "map".
Consider using a more grey color for the slider border due to the hit circle overlay...I think white color is okay.

[Easy]
00:44:155 (3) - Don't stack under slider ends in Easy difficulties,

please
01:04:155 (4) - Having variable repeats on these short sliders is not newbie friendly. You go from 3 to 5 quite a bit, along with having notes one beat after these sliders are finished. This isn't newbie-friendly at all, and they're -everywhere-
01:20:405 (1) - Too soon after a spinner for an Easy. Give about 4 beats.
01:24:155 (3) - Stacked under slider end again
02:50:405 (1) - Too soon after a spinner
02:54:155 (3) - Stacked under slider end
03:14:155 (3) - ^
Remaked and fixed all...I guess.

[Normal]
vivicat: The only problem I have is your use of 3-hit and 5-hit repeat sliders everywhere. It'd be best if you could use only 3-hit or only 5-hit repeat sliders. This level of difficulty is better used to introduce their use in the first place - using different values of hits is a bit much for a Normal.No more 5-hit.

[Hard]
AR -1 please. 8 is too fast for this map.Done, and HP -1 too.
01:25:405 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - Uh, you're going to need to use tick rate 2 if you want to keep this.Yeah.
03:29:155 (1,1,1,1) - No new combo spam please. Also I don't get the rhyhtm use here. It sounds bad.The rhythm is fine for me, but I fixed those ncs.

[Insane]
This map also requires tick rate 2 if you want to keep all those huge speed changes.It is tick 2, you didn't realize?

[sp3]
01:12:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This pattern really doesn't reflect the smooth melody of the song very well. It's very jerky going back and forth like this.I think it's okay.

[lks]
02:04:311 (1,2) - This flows better if 2 is ctrl + g'd since it follows 02:02:905 (1,2) - ^
02:31:655 - Really odd place to start the break. Makes it feel incomplete going into the next section that far.I think it's okay...and it's sp3's part.

[jaui]
03:15:248 (10,1) - This alignment looks poorI think it's okay.
03:17:280 (2,3,4,5,1) - As does this spacing^

The easy needs some major redesigning. The rest of the set is pretty nice though, once you get the proper tick rate in there.Thanks for your appreciation.

kanpakyin wrote:
As requested.

[General]
As garven said.Tick changed.
Add silent sliderslide since this is a calm song.Yeah.

[Easy]
00:44:155 (3) - Stack it perfectly?
00:45:405 (1) - This shape is quite ugly in my opinion. I would give a suggestion here:
Suggestion
01:04:155 (4) - Remove the clap from red tick and then add the clap on 01:04:780 - to fit your hitclap pattern and music.
01:09:467 (4) - Remove the clap from red tick please. It doesn't fit the music.
01:24:155 (3) - Same as 00:45:155 -
01:25:405 (1) - Same as 00:45:405 -
01:20:405 ~ 01:40:405 - 為甚麼這個部分和一開始那裡一樣...?只是上下顛倒了? 求不偷懶...求換梗
01:54:155 (4) - Same as 01:04:155 (4) - . Maybe for those clap, use a whistle instead of it.
02:29:155 (4) - ^All fixed.

[viviBeren]
00:55:717 (2,3) - This is not newbie- friendly pattern because of the stack. How about considering changing it?
02:11:030 (2) - Remove the clap at the beginnning of the slider? It doesn't fit the music perfectly in my opinion.
Beren's part is well made.All fixed.

[Hardy]
01:02:592 (1) - How about putting a new combo here because the symmetrical jump starts from here.Okay.
01:25:405 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - This is too hard for a hard difficulty. I would remove it and changing it to another pattern if I were you.I'd like to keep it.
01:35:405 (1,1,1,1,1,2) - ^^
02:10:405 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - How about removing the whistle on these note and then change them into normal hitsound.^

[JauiPlKsp3]
00:40:405 (1) - How about adding a whistle at the end of the slider to fit the high pitch?
00:41:186 (3) - I would remove this note if I were you because there is no any instrument/drum sound to support that note. You don't need to adjust the spacing after fixing.
01:13:530 (5) - A finsih here?
02:14:780 (1,2,3,4) - 如果(1.2.3.4)- 的方向像02:14:155 (1,2,3,4) - 走的話..flow會好很多..個人意見我觉得...没什么好改的囧

Call me back when this is rebubbled.Okay thanks...

Thanks for modding!

Garven

osu! Alumni

5,857 posts

Joined January 2010

Garven 2013-01-21T22:04:16+00:00

[General]
Sure, we know that is says "Map" but this is about the presentation, not the intelligence of the viewer. You have white on white, which is bad for readability. This isn't applying to only "map" but many of the mapper names as well. It's an easy fix and you even acknowledge that it's an issue, and yet you brush it off as if it's nothing.
Did you even try a lighter shade of grey? I found about 185,185,185 fits much better than 255,255,255.
The slider follow circle is cut off on all 4 edges. It looks weird and obviously not done on purpose.

[Hard]
I would recommend tick rate 4 for this considering the rhythms used. It would also help the readability of all the crazy slider speed changes.
01:22:905 (1,2) - This has been bugging me. The spacing is just misleading. Move this further out. Applies to other iterations as well.

[Insane]
Actually Tick 4 will be needed then, sorry I didn't notice. It also fits the song well anyway, especially since you follow the faster rhythms so often in this particular map.

Are you going to let the mappers reply? It seems that you don't want to change anything rather than looking at the merit of the criticism.

As for your parts:

How does this look "okay"to you?

SPOILER

Same with this (all 1/2 rhythms):

SPOILER

It's sloppy and plays poorly respectively.

LKs

3,119 posts

Joined August 2009

LKs 2013-01-22T02:41:53+00:00

about the Storyboard. It is better to say I put white on white deliberately

in other words, That was the effect I wanted that could only be reached under this circumstance. so don't mind its readability.

And i believe if there are ppl really care of the SB's conten.t they won't be obscured so much so that they can't recongize what the SB conveys

spboxer3

Global Moderator

3,616 posts

Joined November 2009

spboxer3 2013-01-22T03:49:34+00:00

我想確認一下是我這邊的combo color SB了還是怎怎麼是原色不是custom的本來不是有分顏色嗎?

東西修改過了話說我覺得我的pattern被改過= =

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Garven

osu! Alumni

5,857 posts

Joined January 2010

Garven 2013-01-22T17:03:08+00:00

Thanks for fixing that stuff up. The set looks much better now. Rebubbled!

kanpakyin

Global Moderator

4,231 posts

Joined June 2010

kanpakyin 2013-01-23T19:18:29+00:00

Rechecked. Everything looks fine.

Ranked.

(ノ・ω・)ノ

Deni

Deni 2013-01-23T19:22:57+00:00

Congrats! >w<

Sea_Food

484 posts

Joined September 2012

Sea_Food 2013-01-23T19:59:18+00:00

How the fuck did this shit get ranked?

All of the notes are like compleatly random.

The mapper must be deaf. The reason 30% of the notes come actually at same time when there is a beat on the song must be just luck.

AlphaWaves

84 posts

Joined June 2011

AlphaWaves 2013-01-23T20:59:24+00:00

Omg such a beautiful song, and the chart is really well mapped in my opinion.
Just the skin that makes it hard to play.

Congrats, really nice job.

Strawberry

osu! Alumni

1,536 posts

Joined October 2010

Strawberry 2013-01-23T22:42:28+00:00

@sea_food: be polite and respect others? it only shows the collab diff is hard for you, however itself is an excellent work.

anyway, congratz

-Baby Strawberry-

387 posts

Joined September 2011

-Baby Strawberry- 2013-01-23T22:51:20+00:00

恭喜恭喜>　＜

Night Master Miku

7 posts

Joined March 2012

Night Master Miku 2013-01-23T23:29:17+00:00

All I can say is WOW! This is a very nice song! At first I thought on EASY after the first spin, there was something wrong with the first beat. I watched more replays and then I figured out that there was nothing wrong