strager wrote:

Players

1. Derekku
2. 0_o
3. Some noob
4. thepianist
5. Wojjan
6. rust45

Almost done finalizing the role set. Expect something tomorrow.

I'm in, I guess

OP beefed.

Personally I think your theme is...interesting, considering how much thought seems to have gone into it.

However, in regards to the Lurker,
"You may vote, but your votes do not count. If a condition is met where it can be logically determined you are the Lurker by examining the votes, you are B& immediately."

uhhhhh that seems really really unfair to the Lurker. It's probably going to be pretty easy to figure out whose vote isn't counting unless I'm missing something. How about, if he's figured out then...sucks to be them?

so lurkers will just have to bandwagon

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ehhhh I'm having a hard time believing you.

also your point is invalid; I would never vote for zero

Also, if there is a tie then the boot goes to the person who reached that number of votes first. With that in mind I don't think it will be that hard for the lurker to blend in

Question: If the Pro dies and the best friend inherits his powers, does he keep his old abilities?

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I'll join.

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Why did you remove me?

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aww phucket

/in

Aw fuckyeah.

I love you SFG. <3

5ku112 wrote:

Why did you remove me?

You haven't disproved yourself an idiot.

oh and for the record SFG I wasn't discouraging you from joining still don't know where you even inferred that from I was just saying I was in a bad mood and didn't want you patronizing me.

I'm not a meanie

Assuming my counting skills haven't failed me.
In

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0_o wrote:

(for the record I haven't got my pm yet)

You have it now, at :22.

(Role PM's sent.)

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I've received my role PM and I'm playing.

Confirmed.

Confirmed.

Confirmed

Confirmed

Confirmed.

finally

edit: i am a combobreaker

supergarlic wrote:

finally

edit: i am a combobreaker

I definitely checked the role list for "combobreaker" after reading that.

i checked the list after you said that just in case i accidently claimed a role >_>

hello confirm

Round 1

Fight!

vote foxmadnes for being the new guy

What? Oh, that's wonderful. It looks like you really put that much thought into it.

its called the Random Voting Stage and is a very typical and normal part of D1 affairs. Once we get a feel for who everyone is the votes will actually have reasons behind them.

vote: Wojjan cus he was a priest in WW3-R so therefore he must be elite

vote: SFG for making too much sense.

That's the spirit~

oh also before we get into this i should probably give you a link to the list of common logical fallacies from mafiawiki, since newbs are prone to using them by accident, especially Wine In Front of Me (WIFOM)

Edit: oh and please call me SFG :<

that's very faulty logic

chance is a terrible basis for making a guess, especially on the first day. Unless Wojjan has said something revealing that you would like to produce...?

Oh, the irony.

Vote Ekaru for hating me in the furry crap

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foxmadnes is obviously a noob because he's a noob.

geez

Votekick: foxmadnes because it's fun watching new players go "WHY ARE THEY VOTING FOR ME I DIDNT DO ANYTHING "

and why am I the only one using the theme terminology?

Vote: supergarlic for being a lowercaps loser.
Sorry for butting in way too late.

Vote: foxmadnes

because idk who else to vote lolol

EDIT: bold x_X

better bold your action zero lolol

unvote
vote Zero for mildly suspicious bandwagoning

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unvote

vote: supergarlic to be immature, since he voted for me earlier for a really bad reason.

Everyone into #mafia, right now.

everyone is giving not very good reasons

Zerostarry wrote:

Vote: foxmadnes

because idk who else to vote lolol

EDIT: bold x_X

Please re-vote as I'm ignoring this one.

grrr

Vote: foxmadnes

Vote: Supergarlic

Because I don't want to vote foxmadnes yet.
or do I.

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0_o, l2OP.

Also, fix your avatar.

strager wrote:

0_o, l2OP.

Also, fix your avatar.

Who looks at the OP >_>

and no

0_o wrote:

Who looks at the OP >_>

I work hard to update it.

;__________________;

strager couldja put the votecount at the TOP of the OP maybe? itd be a lot more convenient...

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

strager couldja put the votecount at the TOP of the OP maybe? itd be a lot more convenient...

and noticable

No.

Vote: Tode for not voting.

0_o wrote:

Hmm

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

vote: Wojjan cus he was a priest in WW3-R so therefore he must be elite

Tode wrote:

that's very faulty logic

chance is a terrible basis for making a guess, especially on the first day. Unless Wojjan has said something revealing that you would like to produce...?

It seems to me like Tode was overreacting a bit here, SFG's vote was a fairly obvious joke but she took it pretty seriously. Wojjan-Tode Elite pair?

unvote
vote Wojjan

oh wow

how did I not catch that joke

also I haven't voted because I hate first-day voting and I hate bandwagons and I haven't been on enough lately to catch anyone doing anything suspicious

Why do I not like the sudden bandwagon on supergarlic?

vote: thepianist until he explains on the subject.

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go go gadget reread

foxmadnes wrote:

What? Oh, that's wonderful. It looks like you really put that much thought into it.

I'd see this as fishy if foxmadnes ever played before, but seeing as SFG had to explain the RVS, I'll let this slide

foxmadnes wrote:

vote: SFG for making too much sense.

EDIT? Again, new guy. Normally, people aren't encouraged to edit their posts in these games, but this is your first time.
lots of random votes go here.

Todesengal wrote:

that's very faulty logic

chance is a terrible basis for making a guess, especially on the first day. Unless Wojjan has said something revealing that you would like to produce...?

Comedy goes straight over Tode's head? I doubt it. Of course, from my standing point, it doesn't seem all too weird (I know I'm human et all) but taking in the fact that Tode has nothing to go on that I posted, and only has her role PM, this gets really fishy.

Zerostarry wrote:

Vote: foxmadnes

because idk who else to vote lolol

EDIT: bold x_X

This is where things get strange. In am RVS, usually there isn't a lot of bandwagoning going about, yet Zero places the third vote on foxmadnes. Why? Even after 0_o pointed this out in this post:

0_o wrote:

unvote
vote Zero for mildly suspicious bandwagoning

Zero still stays with his opinion and revotes foxmadnes (thanks to strager for asking confirmation again after 0_o's post)

supergarlic wrote:

capitals are for noobs

EDIT: nardi has lower caps too and fox

is this just garlic hate?

Yup, garlic hate.
Nonono, I just needed a random reason. Funny though that you take this RVS the rather harsh way. Got some role you don't want to lose?

thepianist wrote:

Vote: Supergarlic

Because I don't want to vote foxmadnes yet.
or do I.

Right, the OTHER bandwagon. Why would thepianist vote supergarlic now? The reasoning supplied doesn't make sense either. He doesn't want to bandwagon, so he bandwagonns instead?

0_o wrote:

Hmm

It seems to me like Tode was overreacting a bit here, SFG's vote was a fairly obvious joke but she took it pretty seriously. Wojjan-Tode Elite pair?

unvote
vote Wojjan

Somewhat fishy, just wanted to point this out: If you accuse Tode of protecting me after a random vote, why would you vote me instead? I can assume you think of me and Tode as Elitists because of that post, but your argument is pretty faulty. Can you present some evidence against me instead?

0_o wrote:

Vote Count
supergarlic (3) - Wojjan, Ekaru, thepianist
foxmadnes (2) - nardi, Zerostarry
Wojjan (2) - SFG, 0_o
SFG (1) - foxmadnes
Ekaru (1) - supergarlic

Tell me if I screwed up somewhere.

A vote count. Echo once mentioned in SM3 (methinks) that this is considered an all-around town hint. Of course, there's WIFOM flying around like guano in a MMORPG cave. I like how the bandwagon on foxmadnes suddenly moved off of him.

Todesengal wrote:

oh wow

how did I not catch that joke

also I haven't voted because I hate first-day voting and I hate bandwagons and I haven't been on enough lately to catch anyone doing anything suspicious

SUSPICIOUUS

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

man i am way way way too preoccupied to concentrate on this game

unvote
vote: thepianist

Horriblehorrible, SFG. You don't just pop in to vote once in a while. That's a scumtell, and you should know. I really don't like this post, and I feel that SFG hasn't been contributing as much lately as in other games. This post justifies a bit, I guess.

thepianist wrote:

why am i being focused on just cuz it's day one.
i think your bandwagon is just as bad as mine.

unvote
vote SFG

Here's thepianist taking SFG's post by the horns and butthurting right back at her (can't blame him). OMGUS, anyone?

SFG, thepianist, Zero and Tode strike me as odd, listed in their order of weirditude.
vote: SFG for reasons listed above.
HOS: thepianist for suspicious bandwagon and votecounter.
FOS: Zero for slightly suspicious bandwagon.

and that list of logical fallacies totally helped me

Finally some real discussion

0_o wrote:

Hmm

It seems to me like Tode was overreacting a bit here, SFG's vote was a fairly obvious joke but she took it pretty seriously. Wojjan-Tode Elite pair?

unvote
vote Wojjan

Somewhat fishy, just wanted to point this out: If you accuse Tode of protecting me after a random vote, why would you vote me instead? I can assume you think of me and Tode as Elitists because of that post, but your argument is pretty faulty. Can you present some evidence against me instead?

I voted you instead of Tode because I wanted to see Tode's reaction to a vote against you. Didn't really get anything out of her response, but eh, it was worth a shot.

unvote

Also, SFG has been less active in general (not just in the game) so I don't think her inactivity is really a scumtell :<

Wojjan wrote:

supergarlic wrote:

capitals are for noobs

EDIT: nardi has lower caps too and fox

is this just garlic hate?

Yup, garlic hate.
Nonono, I just needed a random reason. Funny though that you take this RVS the rather harsh way. Got some role you don't want to lose?

I think you just took it in a harsh way. I was just joking >_>.

Wojjan wrote:

Nonono, I just needed a random reason. Funny though that you take this RVS the rather harsh way. Got some role you don't want to lose?

Rolefishing on day 1 Wojjan?

mod: How long till the day ends?

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Saturos-fangirl wrote:

yeah sorry, apparently suddenly getting a boyfriend who lives in the same building as i do is exceptionally distracting in terms of my ability to play.

w/e i guess ill just unvote for now until such a time as i can tear myself away from ~him~ for long enough to make a cogent vote

wait... I thought...

what

...

unvote
vote: SFG because she has a relationship, it WILL distract her, and I'd rather not deal with it, sorry. Yes, I'm cruel that way.

0_o wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

yeah sorry, apparently suddenly getting a boyfriend who lives in the same building as i do is exceptionally distracting in terms of my ability to play.

w/e i guess ill just unvote for now until such a time as i can tear myself away from ~him~ for long enough to make a cogent vote

wait... I thought...

what

both ways, dear, both ways

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OK guys, the day was supposed to end yesterday so this means the Server Lag extended the day, and we have 24 hours + 15 minutes.

So let's cut the joke votes and actually vote based on suspicion here.

vote thepianist for being horribly inactive

Eh, sorry, 0_o. I accidentally the whole OP.

(Well, not the whole thing.)

Initial deadline is one week until the player count is reduced to seven or below.

(That doesn't mean a Server Lag has used his or her ability.)

Actually you know what

unvote
vote Wojjan

I'm super suspicious of this SFG bandwagon, and your reasoning for voting SFG doesn't make much sense. How is "popping in to vote" a scumtell? Also, there are several people who are much less active than SFG is, so I don't see why one would vote for her over thepianist, nardi, etc using that logic.

Right now I am inclined to think SFG is pro-town because in the majority of WW games the giant bandwagon is on a townie, and the mafia is involved (I am also suspicious of Ekaru for this reason and the reasons above)

Made a mistake in the vote count. It should be correct now.

Wait, what?

What happened was, we had an argument the night or two before, and she was spouting BS, so I was mad at her. 'Sides, this is the first WWG I signed up for that actually got started properly. Anyways...

unvote
vote: Wojjan

To make a point. Also his gigantic post does seem suspicious a bit. *shrugs*

Looking at the log, it is possible that Ekaru may be the lurker, as he follows the foxmadnes --> supergarlic --> SFG --> Wojjan trend?

just a thought.

thepianist wrote:

Looking at the log, it is possible that Ekaru may be the lurker, as he follows the foxmadnes --> supergarlic --> SFG --> Wojjan trend?

just a thought.

I think you may be thinking Troll; the Lurker is (sort of) on the town's side, while the Troll has to be the only one left.

EDIT: ohh I get what you mean now, I forgot that the Lurker's votes don't count.

HEY YOU, PLAYER LURKING THIS THREAD. GET ON #MAFIA.

yes

thepianist wrote:

Looking at the log, it is possible that Ekaru may be the lurker, as he follows the foxmadnes --> supergarlic --> SFG --> Wojjan trend?

just a thought.

You're barking down the wrong tree and thinking too much.

First off, at this stage, the voting is random. Well, not really, but you don't have a kill or anything to base any real vote on.

I just wanted to go more than one round. So when my vote was feeling lonely, I changed it to someone else who had some votes and who I was annoyed with.

The vote for Wojjan was to make it 3 SFG, 2 Wojjan, making it dangerous for him and showing that it was just a coinciden-

Wait a goddamn minute, why'd you accuse me of being the Lurker and not Elite, when this is my first time voting (after a month or two of BS delays) and it'd be obvious to many people that I was just trying to live through the very first round until someone got killed and the fun really started? I mean, there's not very much to make a good, solid vote on, so...

unvote
vote: thepianist

If you knew I wasn't elite, then you obviously would know that I'm either non-elite, the lurker, or the troll. You knew by the time I posted that I was a first-timer if you read that post. Most people would accuse me of being elite or having a non-elitist role general, not try to guess specifically that I was.

Also, if I was the lurker, I wouldn't have changed my vote much since it wouldn't have done anything, and I wouldn't want to draw any suspicion.

Basically, you fail. Sorry.

Also I fail, sorry.

if it makes you feel any better, Ekaru, those of us in #mafia had logically deduced that thepianist's accusation that you were the lurker was a pile of garbage ^_^ for pretty much the exact same reason~

my eyes

Hold on.

Like I said, it was just a thought. It warrants no vote, HOS, FOS.

I never said you were not an elite, nor one either. I just remembered the role from the OP and it was a hypotheses (god I had too much chem.)

i think im going to die in post-RVS T_T;

vote: thepianist

sorry, i dont wanna die on day 1. if you're an important noob, by all means tell us

unvote, vote pianist

because i CAN and because of #mafia

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What what?

Editing is for fags. Post it right the first time.