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[Rdyjin]
I'll give both of the second one a try, especially since I'm trying to break into the 200bpm zone right now for FCing and HR. Plus, it would give me a good excuse to get off my ass and stop being lazy about finally trying to SS something.

Edit: wtf you mean by normal players?? wut, we not GOOD enough to live up to YOUR standards? /mockanger
HashishKabob
Oh god. Not this again.






NO YOU ALL SUCK AND I'M BETTER THAN NOOBITA
/sarcasm
NeoRainier

HashishKabob wrote:

Noobita, don't be so butthurt. This thread hasn't gone to shit yet.. you never know.

Sounds great idea. Here's a couple for ya.

HR challenges:
Full combo Silver Forest - Souon!! with 99.73% or better.
Notes/Tips-
~The map is 180bpm
~Has very low OD, only at 3.
~A lot of repeat patterns. Memorize similar sections to make the whole map simpler.

Full combo Ryu* Vs. Sota - Go Beyond!! Alace's Taiko with 99% or better OR S Full Combo Shalon's Taiko.
Notes/Tips-
~200bpm
~Average OD 5
~Alace's Taiko's Kiai Time is simple, but is the most complicated piece. Practice off HR before going to HR.
~Shalon's Taiko is complex with many dddkd-type patterns and some random kat placement in the long streams.



I'll post more as I think of them. I'll need your help as players to determine how challenging these are for normal players, so let me know what you think.
These two seem quite good, by the way i think that it'll be better to discuss about it in #taiko.
And also....without offence....but the challenges should be discussed by experts
HashishKabob
Makes sense. But I'm curious as to what you mean by expert? Expert of what? If you mean, taiko in general I'm sure I qualified for it.
Loctav
Semi retired, semi HR player, please
XK2238

NeoRainier wrote:

- SS 3 Taiko only maps with HD
so impossibru for me
----
will post some random scores later
HashishKabob
SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
Pagliaccio

Don Omar wrote:

Noob colour for me
No, it's mine :cry:
Ussuru
NeoRainier

HashishKabob wrote:

SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
I actually don't know...but probably around 30
Btw you're surely into the expert side...that is kinda uh...70/100 of do-don points.
I guess that while i'm barely in, a Xayphon is around 90
Teddy
I saw this thread while missing the old one.
Luna
The old one was in the Introductions subboard, so that's probably why you missed it
Nashmun

NeoRainier wrote:

HashishKabob wrote:

SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
I actually don't know...but probably around 30
Btw you're surely into the expert side...that is kinda uh...70/100 of do-don points.
I guess that while i'm barely in, a Xayphon is around 90
Wut, do-don points ? xD


EDIT :

Some 180 BPM DT :<

[Rdyjin]

NeoRainier wrote:

These two seem quite good, by the way i think that it'll be better to discuss about it in #taiko.
And also....without offence....but the challenges should be discussed by experts
I think he was asking how the maps were for players that aren't just taiko gods. It's not like additional opinions hurt, anyway. If I'm irrelevant because I'm noob, just ignore me lol.

I tried both beatmaps of Go Beyond!! last night for a while and came to the conclusion that, for me, [Shalon]'s taiko and Alace's taiko are pretty distant in terms of difficulty. Alace's map for being "more complex" is actually in my grasp to complete the proposed challenge, but [Shalon]'s map I'm a far way from even being able to pass. They also require different specific taiko skills to do, and it really feels like [Shalon]'s map is just more difficult period rather than they're a set of skills that I'm just not good with. I don't think the grace of just S'ing [Shalon]'s makes up for it compared to Alace's. Anyone wanting to just cheese something to get HR specialist would just pick Alace's taiko I'm sure.
HashishKabob
Everyone has their own skillset too Rydin. Some people are great with long streams and complicated patterns, but can't do mods like DT or HD at all. Some are great with HR at any BPM, but can't HD at all. Some have incredible speed but can't stream worth a damn. I agree with you in the sense that Shalon's Taiko is much more challenging than Alace's, but since both maps are viable HR challenges, I gave the option for either or.

Also, that is an insane DT score there Nash, nice one :D
And what ARE do-don points? O.o
Kuro

NeoRainier wrote:

HashishKabob wrote:

SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
I actually don't know...but probably around 30
Btw you're surely into the expert side...that is kinda uh...70/100 of do-don points.
I guess that while i'm barely in, a Xayphon is around 90
I think Neo just stuttered xD

That would explain "do-don"
Pheon
Dropping by to flip everyone and claim a limeblue name and stuff.
Haereticus


HD tnx, i'm noob in DT(NC) :?
XK2238
random play



sightread
-xX cherry Xx-
這樣?
Slih
raaaaaaaaaaank maaaaaaaaaps boooooooooooooring
Niko-nyan
u.u regular HR please
Backfire
Hello Gezo. I'd like a Half Green/Half Black name. After the TWC, I will fully retire.
Kuro

Backfire wrote:

Hello Gezo. I'd like a Half Green/Half Black name. After the TWC, I will fully retire.
*Background music starts playing

And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust


Sigh, all of america's good players are retiring :?
NeoRainier

HashishKabob wrote:

And what ARE do-don points? O.o
Something like a ranking metric i came up with randomly
-[ ix Ishida xi ]-
DT / HR ♥

Some Records



↑ (Yousei Teikoku - Kokou no Sousei 1.25x speed up ver.)
sam_355322
Makar
HD status plz :D
Juuryoushin
Glad to see that, your thread is still alive \:D/
Also, long time no post but.....I managed to pass Gothic System after so many months \:D/

[Rdyjin]

HashishKabob wrote:

Everyone has their own skillset too Rydin. Some people are great with long streams and complicated patterns, but can't do mods like DT or HD at all. Some are great with HR at any BPM, but can't HD at all. Some have incredible speed but can't stream worth a damn. I agree with you in the sense that Shalon's Taiko is much more challenging than Alace's, but since both maps are viable HR challenges, I gave the option for either or.
This is very true and I considered it, but I still kind of felt that Shalon's is drastically harder that unless the player is good enough that the song is trivial, it's a noticeable enough gap.

But, of course, I can't even pass it and I only really started playing a month ago so hell if I know :U.
HashishKabob
Wait for me xCROSSx :3

Topic Starter
Yuzeyun

HashishKabob wrote:

Some are great with HR at any BPM, but can't HD at all.
/me feels targeted
HashishKabob
I wasn't targeting anyone.
XK2238

HashishKabob wrote:

Some are great with HR at any BPM
feels like Gezo, Akita-Neru, iketa etc. but it's just me. #randommention
Kuro

HashishKabob wrote:

Some have incredible speed but can't stream worth a damn.
Shit, they found out! Escape plan B...... Time to flee! :o

EDIT: To be honest, I can switch in a stream at least 2 times before it becomes garbage :P

EDiT#2: Today's tasty score \o/ + Nightcore & Hidden
*Tomorrow's will be another Nightcore but faster

Slih
Slih is here

first dt try's today:

XK2238

HashishKabob wrote:

Wait for me xCROSSx :3

different offsets? wut
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun

HashishKabob wrote:

I wasn't targeting anyone.
That's why "I feel", not "I am" :P
[Rdyjin]
So tonight I have managed to do the following stream in 1/4 without a miss

ddddkdddkdddkdddddddkkddkkddkkkkddddkkk

without even thinking about it. The rest of the song I played like ass but I am amazed and kind of excited for how I'm finally able to stream longer 1/4s like that.

Just before I played that song and did that I was considering posting and asking if I might be doing something wrong with longer streams, but I think it's just that it's taking a lot of effort to switch my mind from wanting to read an entire pattern then do it to having to read a pattern while doing it at the same time. It gets kind of impractical to try and read and prepare for a whole 1/4 stream when it's 7 or more notes, but it's how I've always done 2, 3, 4, and 5 note patterns. Did other people encounter this sort of issue when learning2taiko or is this just a me thing?
AnFace
Can I be a HR player
I try rly hard I promise


None of them are super hard but the accuracy is probably good?
Sander-Don
I'll take one of them "Retired Status" thingies.
MMzz

[Rdyjin] wrote:

So tonight I have managed to do the following stream in 1/4 without a miss

ddddkdddkdddkdddddddkkddkkddkkkkddddkkk
Eventually you'll get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... k1B4#t=69s
Kuro

MMzz wrote:

[Rdyjin] wrote:

So tonight I have managed to do the following stream in 1/4 without a miss

ddddkdddkdddkdddddddkkddkkddkkkkddddkkk
Eventually you'll get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... k1B4#t=69s
So this is what the fingers of a god looks like..... o_o

I still screw up kkkd and dkkdkkkd rhythms like a noob

Anyway today's score turned out to be no mod, I couldn't FC + DT the song I was intending to show!:




Juuryoushin
After a bunch of tries & misses, i managed to get a SS on Usatei \:D/



Tewi rocks
XEPCOH

ok challenge accepted
XK2238
everyone so pro asdfghjkl
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun

Kuro wrote:

Still decent to me :P
(also my score is like not even 24 hours old)
kanpakyin
D: everyone is so proooooooooooooooooooo
Pheon
Well, seeing as how two of my most impressive scores (to me) are on non-rankeds..


Figured this would be a good place to drop them. x:
Kuro

_Gezo_ wrote:

Kuro wrote:

Still decent to me :P
(also my score is like not even 24 hours old)
lol, I tried using HR on that song like you and Hashish did but when I got to the end everything was going by so fast... >_<
Long story short, I got a miss and quit :oops:
Kuro

Don Omar wrote:


ok challenge accepted
I don't see any taiko specific maps :P
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun

Kuro wrote:

lol, I tried using HR on that song like you and Hashish did but when I got to the end everything was going by so fast... >_<
Long story short, I got a miss and quit :oops:
Once you get to read huge speeds, everything is easy, I can FC it on a widescreen too (I did it at a friend's home but with way less acc)
To give you an example : I can read up to 320+ BPM nomod in a 4/3 screen.
[Rdyjin]

Kuro wrote:

MMzz wrote:

Eventually you'll get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... k1B4#t=69s
So this is what the fingers of a god looks like..... o_o

I still screw up kkkd and dkkdkkkd rhythms like a noob
That actually looks quite doable, but only because I'm trying to learn it in a way so that my fingers would just automatically do them without me having to think about it rather than forcing it.

kkkd I can understand since I have issues with a lot of 'inverted' patterns where kats are dominant, but dkkdkkkd shouldn't be too difficult; aside from the first don, assuming a kddk playstyle, your second hand is doing all the dons. I don't think I've actually encountered it but I imagine it would only stumble me up about as much as kkdkk in that when I know it's coming I would be prepared for it (again going with the inverted thing).

I think it's a lot about how you try to read it, too. At first I tried to read 7-note patterns as being a 2-note immediately followed by a 5-note, but when that didn't work I just started working on making it muscle memory based on the number of consecutive dons/kats in the middle of a stream; kddkddk, for example, I would read it as swapping hands for the start of the dons because a single note in a row means basically that, you swap hand for the same color you were doing before.

It's weird I guess but it's working really well for me so far.
Kuro

[Rdyjin] wrote:

Kuro wrote:

So this is what the fingers of a god looks like..... o_o

I still screw up kkkd and dkkdkkkd rhythms like a noob
That actually looks quite doable, but only because I'm trying to learn it in a way so that my fingers would just automatically do them without me having to think about it rather than forcing it.

kkkd I can understand since I have issues with a lot of 'inverted' patterns where kats are dominant, but dkkdkkkd shouldn't be too difficult; aside from the first don, assuming a kddk playstyle, your second hand is doing all the dons. I don't think I've actually encountered it but I imagine it would only stumble me up about as much as kkdkk in that when I know it's coming I would be prepared for it (again going with the inverted thing).

I think it's a lot about how you try to read it, too. At first I tried to read 7-note patterns as being a 2-note immediately followed by a 5-note, but when that didn't work I just started working on making it muscle memory based on the number of consecutive dons/kats in the middle of a stream; kddkddk, for example, I would read it as swapping hands for the start of the dons because a single note in a row means basically that, you swap hand for the same color you were doing before.

It's weird I guess but it's working really well for me so far.
I can play dkkd but when you start tagging on kkkd that means I have to lead with dons/kats with my left hand and I can't hammer dons/kats with my left hand for too long because I lose speed. I naturally lead with my right hand so dkkkdkkkdkkkd/kdddkdddkdddk, kkdkkkdkkkd/ddkdddkdddk, etc. are no problem at all as long as a don/kat constantly lands on my right hand in 4/4 time.
Ex. dkkkd/kdddk.
I can play dkkdkkkd but not dkkdkkkdkkkdkkkdkkkd and kddkdddkdddkdddk because I fall behind the rhythm because my left hand was never meant to lead and can't keep up.
Yes, there is a major speed difference between my left and right hand.
Yes, my left hand is retarded.
Why?
Because my right hand is a greedy bitch and never lets my left hand play first.
:P
LZD
Pheon you are mad, holy shit :o

Good scores guys, keep posting! 8-)
Kuro

LZD wrote:

Pheon you are mad, holy shit :o

Good scores guys, keep posting! 8-)
Dude, you need to revive that t+paz map that got graved because I love that song. I would like to do a taiko guest diff. for it if you'll take it?
Ussuru
Can I have a cookie~
SPOILER
B Galore :D
karterfreak
Probably one of the oldest scores I have that I was genuinely happy to achieve back when I did.


There's also this score


Nowadays I'm not really playing much anymore. My only remaining goals are to FC Senbon Sakura and Akasha, just so I can say I did it.

Edit: Lol. I just realized that both of those scores are before my name change.
[Rdyjin]

Kuro wrote:

I can play dkkd but when you start tagging on kkkd that means I have to lead with dons/kats with my left hand and I can't hammer dons/kats with my left hand for too long because I lose speed. I naturally lead with my right hand so dkkkdkkkdkkkd/kdddkdddkdddk, kkdkkkdkkkd/ddkdddkdddk, etc. are no problem at all as long as a don/kat constantly lands on my right hand in 4/4 time.
Ex. dkkkd/kdddk.
I can play dkkdkkkd but not dkkdkkkdkkkdkkkdkkkd and kddkdddkdddkdddk because I fall behind the rhythm because my left hand was never meant to lead and can't keep up.
Yes, there is a major speed difference between my left and right hand.
Yes, my left hand is retarded.
Why?
Because my right hand is a greedy bitch and never lets my left hand play first.
:P
That makes a lot of sense, actually, even though I never considered it as leading with either hand. The only thing I ever have to consider myself is which hand I'm ending with/if it's an even amount of notes or an odd amount of notes. I still derp hard on 2-note patterns and 4-note patterns because of that, but I'm slowly improving it.

I've been having some minor problems with the left hand thing but so far it's mostly just struck me to be that I wasn't properly registering the distinct difference of leading with my left hand, since most of the time leads are very right-hand oriented. I don't think I'll have an issue with speed because I'm actually left handed though, and sometimes I go faster than I should because of my left hand lol, but we'll see as I start doing long patterns more often and not just semi-BSing them and hoping for the best.
MMzz
I got bored.


I tried to Hidden Mendes too (Firce version) but the stream is just so damn weird.
Pheon

MMzz wrote:

I got bored.


I tried to Hidden Mendes too (Firce version) but the stream is just so damn weird.
Retired and still beats all of us.


Get back to FLStudio ;_ ;
Luna


10k /o/
but still a huge noob T_T
Kuro
Kinda late posting a score because I overslept yesterday! xD

Today's score!! [b]+ Hidden & DoubleTime[/b] \o/ :)

*I didn't use Nightcore this time because I like this song the way it is!


HashishKabob
That is a nice HD FC you got there mittens. :3
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun
@^ I'm sure he can aim for a good 99,25 :P (Just three 100s less)
Slih

278 bpm ~
Nashmun
Okay, I didn't play a lot today so here is a score I get. Not hard but this map is fun to play, so... :3

Kuro
Today's score is no mod! \o/

/me curses the world
1 miss... How cruel.... This occurred at the start of the song not the end that's what makes it even worse..

The "S" that got away...
LZD

Kuro wrote:

LZD wrote:

Pheon you are mad, holy shit :o

Good scores guys, keep posting! 8-)
Dude, you need to revive that t+paz map that got graved because I love that song. I would like to do a taiko guest diff. for it if you'll take it?
Yeah, I should come back to map and end a lot of timed songs I have XD. This map cheatreal, I must change some parts of the song. Anyways I'll add you to my friend list to talk ingame about it :P
Pagliaccio
Finally, after few weeks of inactive, I pass dat maps.




Also, I wanna HR colour cause of this


Hope one day I FC'd it.
HashishKabob
Can anyone tell me how 2 1/8th? :(

[Rdyjin]

HashishKabob wrote:

Can anyone tell me how 2 1/8th? :(
Be Korean, probably. I can barely do 1/6 in 200 BPM songs, I don't see how anyone can do 1/8. I imagine a mechanical keyboard helps a lot for faster streams?

Also, I'm slowly becoming close to being able to pass Ono's Taiko Oni of The Big Black. Idk if that's really as infamous as my IRL friend has made it seem in terms of difficulty, since I don't standard, but in a few days when I get to reliably beating it, I'm going to go over to her house and just nonchalantly beat it on her laptop. She'll probably kill me or something since she gets bothered by me actually managing to learn taiko. It will be worth it.
Nashmun


FINALLY ! \o/
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun

[Rdyjin] wrote:

HashishKabob wrote:

Can anyone tell me how 2 1/8th? :(
Be Korean, probably. I can barely do 1/6 in 200 BPM songs, I don't see how anyone can do 1/8. I imagine a mechanical keyboard helps a lot for faster streams?
In that map
135 1/8 = 1080BPM
200 1/6 = 1200BPM

uuuuuuh, js
XK2238
Gezo has said the truth :v

Nashmun wrote:



FINALLY ! \o/
FFFFFFFFFF D:
LZD
I leave it here
http://puu.sh/1Bz9a

ye overmap blah blah blah orz
abrian

LZD wrote:

I leave it here
http://puu.sh/1Bz9a

ye overmap blah blah blah orz
overmapppeeedddd =w=
fu fu fu fu fu funnn~
roufou


am I good at this mod?maybe not as I used over 10 tries in a row despite the map being pretty easy to sightread :L
HashishKabob

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Rdyjin] wrote:

Be Korean, probably. I can barely do 1/6 in 200 BPM songs, I don't see how anyone can do 1/8. I imagine a mechanical keyboard helps a lot for faster streams?
In that map
135 1/8 = 1080BPM
200 1/6 = 1200BPM

uuuuuuh, js
uuuuuuh, what?

if the bpm is 135 a 1/8th would be 1/4th at 270. and 1/6th would be 1/4th at 216bpm.
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun
It was to compare 1/6 200 and 1/8 135, ported to 1/1
Update will come soon... I guess. <_<
HashishKabob
Oh, I just did the extra math to show it makes sense. lol
[Rdyjin]
wat.

It doesn't show the BPM of the song on the results screen and I wasn't going to look it up, so I assumed it would be around 200 BPM :(.

/twiddlesfingers
MMzz
GOODLUCK
http://puu.sh/1CgNd

Back to remastering and reuploading Medication songs.
This song is new though.
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun
HOLY CRAPDOAZPDKLPAZ put this in Ao no Senritsu plz.

we still have to make a song together, if you can wait until I get my new PC that'd be gud
or remix vermilion nation i have the flp at home
Juuryoushin
Score of the day:



Try count: 1.
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun
OD5 lel
try HR now \:D/ (inb4 SS HR LOL)
OzzyOzrock
im bad now Z:((((((((Zsaz
s ranker disc
wht about my flashlight addiction :P ;)
Topic Starter
Yuzeyun

OzzyOzrock wrote:

im bad now Z:((((((((Zsaz
no ur not :DDDDDDDDDDDdddd
Juuryoushin
Three scores ! in a row





[Rdyjin]
baby gabumon's first >1000x max combo



I wasn't even conscious of it so when I suddenly noticed my combo counter was lengthy I freaked out and the graph shows my derping. (I am teh proud of myself ^^)
XK2238


meh
replay >> http://puu.sh/1DppC
NeoRainier
Hell no, why there are always some random Chileans playing HD+FL...
Kuro
DT~DT~DT~DT \o/
but my DT Accuracy always sucks, I don't have any control over mah speeeeed

Edit: Since I've been "away" for a while I'm going to play a bunch of new songs with DT and NC and post them here to make up for the days I missed. They aren't going to be old DTs I'm going to do new ones!

DT 248 BPM fail
2 misses... The shame... /me hides in a corner

Offtopic: NOOOO WTMFBBQ!!!!! :x :cry: :(


Juuryoushin
XK2238
>1656564
>65656
PRO

also
even if I opened it for the first time :pokerfacepalm:
Juuryoushin


15 pp lol
Slih
just my userpage :3 (dt records)
Kuro
Tsk, too many misses :roll:

Juuryoushin
Postin' some DTscores. (Aiming for DT specialist, I hope it's enough <_<)


That's all !

EDIT: one screen added, probably the most impressive one.
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