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ReverseLight
xin op
cokeshawty
Your thoughts about Amumu are okay except for the mana part. Yes, he relies on mana early game, but that's what the blue buff is for. In my opinion he is the sickest jungler in the game. Your ult can turn games around, you have extreme tankiness, and with a Frozen Heart your mana problems are goneee. Unless you keep your W on 24/7.

My usual build on him:
Boots + pots
Philo Stone and HoG
Mercuries/Tabis
Sunfire Cape
Abyssal Scepter
Frozen Heart
Force of Nature
GA/Rylais

Pretty much pure pwnage
tyrael6192

Cyrith wrote:

Thoughts?
The answer to all your questions is lee sin
cokeshawty
^ pretty much
Stefan

FluKerr wrote:

My usual build on him:
Boots + pots
Philo Stone and HoG
Mercuries/Tabis
Sunfire Cape
Abyssal Scepter
Frozen Heart
Force of Nature
GA/Rylais

Pretty much pure pwnage
Actually the things you SHOULD buy. (I am not sure about the correct order, since I never played Amumu before)
cokeshawty

Stefan wrote:

FluKerr wrote:

My usual build on him:
Boots + pots
Philo Stone and HoG
Mercuries/Tabis
Sunfire Cape
Abyssal Scepter
Frozen Heart
Force of Nature
GA/Rylais

Pretty much pure pwnage
Actually the things you SHOULD buy. (I am not sure about the correct order, since I never played Amumu before)
Yeah the order is correct. But IF you're going to build a Rylai's, I'd suggest to do it earlier for the CC.
Tesu
i am so imba in LOL if i use Tiny
cokeshawty
^lul
South
rylia's / lich bane

by far my favorite items in the entire game :D
cokeshawty

KingFloyd wrote:

rylia's / lich bane

by far my favorite items in the entire game :D
Yeah Lich Bane is a sick item, and really cool imo. I love building it. But it's only a little viable only on certain champions :/
South
lol yea sorta

but sometimes i go troll with it and stuff
like this one time i got it on leblanc and backdoor'd a team for a win..... which is pathetic but it happened.

and another time i built full AP on irelia (which was hilarious) and her lichbane hurt BAD causse of her Q and true dmg and such
cokeshawty
Ahaaa, that's sick lol. I love Lich Bane on champs like Akali and Lux. In combination with those passives etc. it really shows its power.
South
i have some hilarious pictures of various troll builds with stupid high scores

im on my crappy laptop though and everything is on my desktop back in my dorm :/
GeeNX

FluKerr wrote:

Ahaaa, that's sick lol. I love Lich Bane on champs like Akali and Lux. In combination with those passives etc. it really shows its power.
+1, twisted fate too
tyrael6192
tf pretty much NEEDS it to function, otherwise most of his burst goes out the window.. I've never seen a single tf not build lichbane
cokeshawty
Yeah, and for max dmg you will need that 4th card basic attack up, which is not always the case.
Also forgot to mention Ziggs. Those passive basic attacks already hurt when he doesn't even have Lich Bane x3
South
orianna is nasty with a lich bane o.o
cokeshawty
Yeah true, but it's not optimal. Her passive is that she deals extra dmg with consecutive basic attack (at the same target). It stacks up only 3 times. So it will only be optimal at her 3rd basic attack. Not saying it's bad though.
I sometimes build a Nashor's Tooth on her :T
South
i dont think ive ever clicked on nashor's tooth.......

like the stats on it are ok, i just think there are better choices
cokeshawty
Yeah same, was just to try if it worked out with her passive, and it did ^-^
Anyways, what are you fav. champs and why?
South
ahri lux ziggs irelia riven sivir fiora swain teemo akali

i guess the only thing that brings that random grab bag of people together is.
if you build them right they will hit like a truck
cokeshawty
Hmm okay. I hate to play against Teemo >w<
South
what do you have wrong with a 700 AP teemo that AA for 300 damage with a 50 dps tick for 4 seconds attacking 1.1 times per second with 1200 damage landmine mushrooms :O
tyrael6192
"teemo should be removed from the game"

-Obama 2012
cokeshawty

tyrael6192 wrote:

"teemo should be removed from the game"

-Obama 2012
Riot is actually planning to remove champs from the game. Heard Teemo is one of them :x
South
not my teemo D:
cokeshawty
Yeah :/ And they're removing some items and item passives.
South
oh if your talking about the season 3 changes i would go check out this place called surrenderat20.net its got all sorts of information on things to come in league
GeeNX
osu! is taking LoL, I played with jekasa YERTI Raimon a LoL game, we won yay
cokeshawty
Oh cool :_D
We should do 5 man premades, would be cool ^.^
Aoriki
Wait wait wait, I just now read Teemo being removed? D: I just barely started learning how to build the guy! Dafuk ; ~ ; Who else are they removing?
South

Aoriki wrote:

Wait wait wait, I just now read Teemo being removed? D: I just barely started learning how to build the guy! Dafuk ; ~ ; Who else are they removing?
they prolly wont remove any of the champions

they probably will change some of them like what they did to evelyn and twich.

i dont know for sure though
Aoriki
If they nerf or buff them, I don't mind (Or remodeling them) but I really hope they don't plan on removing any of the one I love using. (Oh, scary)
Vulf
Remove him from the game as in nerf him so bad that he isn't playable anymore e.g old eve, and the current Urgot. I miss Urgot :(
cokeshawty

Vulf wrote:

Remove him from the game as in nerf him so bad that he isn't playable anymore e.g old eve, and the current Urgot. I miss Urgot :(
This. We will see :/
Shiro
cokeshawty
Dang sick! Had only seen the 1st one, but this one is even doper : D
GeeNX
Going to see it now, I expect so much after the 1st one =D
cokeshawty
Believe me, it's sick! The end was like meh but the rest dopeeee :[]
JesusYamato
nashor tooth viable item in tourney. on jax. as maknoon.
South

Ouariasse wrote:

nashor tooth viable item in tourney. on jax. as maknoon.
lol'd
Aoriki
I just read Legacy skins are coming back in January (Maybe) Oh...I'm so putting money for Riot when the time comes.
South
http://www.surrenderat20.net/

this site is pretty helpful and accurate
Vulf
I bought all the legacy skins i wanted back when they were 75% off. Now what i would really like to see is some limited skins come back like red card Kat and bewitching Nidalee. Still mad at myself for not buying bewitching Nid when it was in the store last year.
GeeNX
I bought jax, amumu and kennen ones there...wow, 1 year and 1m onth without buying RP's xD
Cyrith_old
Yay for being busy and missing 3 pages. Lee sin. Come to think of it, you are right. Amazing initiate, 2 distance closers, insane cc. No mana. Guess ill be buying him before/after nami depending on if i see her adding something new to my list of champions.
cokeshawty

Cyrith wrote:

Yay for being busy and missing 3 pages. Lee sin. Come to think of it, you are right. Amazing initiate, 2 distance closers, insane cc. No mana. Guess ill be buying him before/after nami depending on if i see her adding something new to my list of champions.
Yeah he's effin dope. Make sure to always carry a few wards with you = unlimited escapes!
Cyrith_old

FluKerr wrote:

Yeah he's effin dope. Make sure to always carry a few wards with you = unlimited escapes!
I remember playing with a lee sin, i warded both sides of the walls of thier base, so he was totally free to jump in, harass, jump out. I always buy more wards than usual when with a lee sin.
cokeshawty

Cyrith wrote:

FluKerr wrote:

Yeah he's effin dope. Make sure to always carry a few wards with you = unlimited escapes!
I remember playing with a lee sin, i warded both sides of the walls of thier base, so he was totally free to jump in, harass, jump out. I always buy more wards than usual when with a lee sin.

Watch from 0:20. /o/
South
trundle 2013!
Cyrith_old
That safeguard -> resonating strike juke... O_O. More escape potential than janna. and noone has more escape potential than janna.
Cyclone
You guys should join the osu! chat on league. There are cool people like Cyclone and Peppy there.

Also PENTA KILL! http://puu.sh/1utDK
cokeshawty
Too bad a lot of people here are playing on EUW :/
Stefan
I am also playing on the NA Servers (but rarely). I called myself there as Stay Gay Pony (Yeah, you know what I mean).
cokeshawty
Hmmm I guess I should make an NA account as well..
GeeNX
EUW
Aoriki
<- plays NA Server.
South
<-- owns NA server
cokeshawty

Aoriki wrote:

<- plays NA Server.
Sweet Ahri avatar :'3
Cyrith_old
I play on EUW. I have a NA account, but its not really any different for me. id rather not play with lag.
cokeshawty

Cyrith wrote:

I play on EUW. I have a NA account, but its not really any different for me. id rather not play with lag.
Yeah same here, lag can be sooo annoying u_u'
Cyrith_old
I also hate people who blame thier shortcomings on lag.

LoL logic:
You are better than me, you have no life.
I am better than you, you are a noob.
Everyone is performing better than me, I have lag.
I have a good score but we are losing, my team-mates are noobs.

LoL occupies a weird place in gaming. It is a great, well-thought out game that plays really well and is fun. It has its flaws, but so does everything, and for a free game, the quality is more than anyone should ask for. Yet the community as a whole can manage to ruin everything. It only take 1 bad apple to spoil the bunch except theres more than just one of them.

What is arguably more annoying now is the community's absurd reaction to ANYTHING that slightly displeases them : REPORT THIS PLAYER. Whats that? you have an extra 20 gold needed to buy your rabadons? Your going to wait for gold over time and get it so you can join the team with a massively increased power? NOPE. STANDING IN BASE FOR LIKE 10 SECONDS. 'OMG NOOB AFK REPORT'. Having a bad game? Yeah happens to everyone. Wait. No. NOOB FEEDER REPORT. REPORT THIS GUY FOR TROLLING. etc etc. I really do fear for new players. Im tempted to join an adopt a noob style program and help new players. Someone has to do it, and tell them that all those people who flame are clearly stupid as f**k.

EDIT: If anyone would like some help with anything id be more than willing to. I wouldnt say I was pro, but my natural tendancy to accumulate knowledge comes in handy for this stuff :p.
cokeshawty
^. so effin true. Can't stand irrational people.
Cyrith_old
For the record my name on EUW is the same as my user here 'Cyrith'. Im kinda bored, so I can play some games now if you'd want. nothing better to do.
Vulf
I used to feel the same way, but after I took a break from league to play some other games I realized it's not that bad. League of legends community isn't that great, but it is at least tolerable. By far from the worst.
Cyrith_old
I guess it's not that bad, but thats like saying punching yourself in the arm hurts less than punching yourself in the balls. They both still hurt, and they are both completely unneeded. Bad communities are a plague in online gaming, and in general, the internet as a whole. I just find the LoL community's selfishness of being far too quick to point out others mistakes without even thinking to correct them (even when it would be in thier best interests to correct them), while ignoring thier own shortcomings to be paticulary grating. Each to thier own, in both thier hates and likes.
Vulf
You'll see that in every pvp game btw. More commonly team based games.
cokeshawty
Yeah.. I'm getting older, and the players on games I (used to) play are getting younger..
Cyrith_old

FluKerr wrote:

Yeah.. I'm getting older, and the players on games I (used to) play are getting younger..
All it took was 1 generation to become stereotypical old people complaining about younger people and how back in our day things were done so much differently and better. I feel old now.
cokeshawty
:/
South
yo my team needs a support / jungler to play ranked 5s right now (NA server)

private chat KingFloyd
:D
plz play with us
Cyrith_old
I dont have a 30 on NA. EDIT: my NA account is level 11. Might try to get it to 30 though. Ill tell you if/when i do.
cokeshawty

KingFloyd wrote:

yo my team needs a support / jungler to play ranked 5s right now (NA server)

private chat KingFloyd
:D
plz play with us
I'd love to but I don't have an NA account :c
Yarissa
I'd play NA as well except I am in SEAsia....
GeeNX
It would be nice if we could do 1vs1 tournament for fun, LoL with osu! members... not? 1 game x week, because some people has studys works blabla...dunno. Like a league
cokeshawty
Ooo would be nice
Cyrith_old
different leagues for different roles? how would we manage people being on different servers, etc etc. could use only free champions and no runes/masteries, but that would give some people an advantage if they knew a paticulary free champion too well.
tyrael6192
Some of these things can't be fixed... if someone knows a champion better than someone else, then that constitutes part of what makes them good at the game and isn't something that can be easily regulated
GeeNX
well I meant do it for servers, NA league, EUW league, EU E&NA league and Asian league if someone there xD
Cyrith_old
so say, 1v1 top lane, 1v1 mid, and 2v2 bot lane games?
GeeNX

Cyrith wrote:

so say, 1v1 top lane, 1v1 mid, and 2v2 bot lane games?
That would be a nice idea too, great one +1, so I think if some people agree, we can ask peppy for make a thread here on video games following the results of our league. Though...uhmmm dunno, maybe it is just better make 1vs1 all champs, I dont know
Cyrith_old
I was thinking doing it like that so supports (who arent really made to play solo) have a decent chance. Could potentially have a jungler involved as well, though while a lane can be won by first turret down, jungle is a little harder to judge. And certain junglers are based around ganks for thier items, so a jungle only match would favour sustain and farm junglers over gank junglers.
Vulf
I main jungler and secondary support. I wouldn't be interested in a 1v1.
cokeshawty
:/
What junglers and supports do you mostly play?
GeeNX
Well, if we decide to make it for roles, we will have to make a list of the limits of roles, I mean not yorick support, I obviously play it as support sometimes but... you understand me for that just common ones, and... dunno just people say what you think, 1vs1 and you choose what you want, with bans and that ofc, or 1vs1 roles, and hope some people be interested. I have 2 osu! friends that can join too probably
tyrael6192
the thing in a 2v2 is the support will get icky if the AD carry isn't up to par, and vice versa, and at the end of the day this 'league' won't be measuring their individual skill levels at all

which of course is the problem with elo in a team game
rEdo
just droppped by to mention that a Twisted Fate can also be a solo queue cancer.

just had a guy who didn't use his ultimate to gank at all, but JUST TO KILLSTEAL A COMPLETELY SECURED KILL. of course that guy died after every single frag he had taken, not even mentioning he actually died fucking nine times getting caught like a total idiot - he always defended himself by saying "IT OK GUYS I KILL SORAKA"
and the best thing was this guy cried about no ganks on mid, and when I tried to gank midlane from top three times, no matter how hard I pinged he kept picking his blue card just to farm

elo system is a joke after all

yes I cried enough, outta here ;_;
GeeNX
I am sure he is the common first pick who says, I have more elo than you guys hahahah
South
i cant stand watching people suck at mid, like its my lane and it rare i ever do poorly.

but when some1 goes and takes my lane, then sucks at it..... oh god that gets me going
GeeNX
I personally thinks jungler should be called ganker, there is people who doesnt understand the role. Maybe is the name irony, totally obvious they dont know how to gank
those

GeeNX wrote:

I personally thinks jungler should be called ganker
No, that's not the jungler's main role; that's the secondary. The first is to provide more farm/exp for the solo laner besides mid.
cokeshawty

KingFloyd wrote:

i cant stand watching people suck at mid, like its my lane and it rare i ever do poorly.

but when some1 goes and takes my lane, then sucks at it..... oh god that gets me going
Stefan

those wrote:

GeeNX wrote:

I personally thinks jungler should be called ganker
No, that's not the jungler's main role; that's the secondary. The first is to provide more farm/exp for the solo laner besides mid.
Pretty much this.
cokeshawty
Anyways, what are your names on League, and what server(s) do you play on?
Cyrith_old
Cyrith - EUW. I seem to be maining alistar support lately.
South
KingFloyd - NA

just won my last 5 ranked games, go my team!!
yeahyeahyeahhh
Why do people "main" heroes? Sounds so dumb.
Cyrith_old
Because having a lot of experience with a specific champion helps you perform better with that champion. It should not come before knowing how every champion works, but we all have our personal playstyles, and certain champions match well with those - which makes you choose those champions over other champions that fill a similar role: maining.
Vulf
It's not uncommon. There are plenty of one trick ponies that made it to top elo by playing only one champion. Even some pro's mained champions and they are known for it. Froggens Anivia for example.
Linco
I got Full Metal Rammus and Riot Graves and used the codes on EU West. If they can be used on EUNE too, is anyone interested in one of these? Don't play on EUNE so I don't need them anymore and sharing seems to be the best thing I can do.
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