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Hika
i didn't fap this month ey
lol what
silmarilen
but you're different
Vext_old
Darn it Milkshake, stop talking to yourself with silm and Hika's names.
Kanye West

Vext wrote:

Darn it Milkshake, stop talking to yourself with silm and Hika's names.
no u
Vext_old
I would pee myself if someone showed up randomly with my old avatar now that I think about it. But only if it was a new person who had no idea.
mathexpert

Kanye West wrote:

Happiness is overrated anyways, its just a bunch of chemicals in your brain
Jenny
I tend to get poststalked by german people
Emaal

Hika wrote:

Personally, I don't think it's hard to be happy. It's all just what Kanye said, chemicals. But you need to be able to block out a lot to be happy; it took me a while to hit this state of mind actually.
if you want to be happy stop thinking like this, it'll make you not happy, and depressed, which is why you aren't happy. writing stuff like this is also ruining others moods, since they start reflecting on it, so gg.

nonetheless, chemicals or not, happiness is a feeling, and a feeling you can enjoy only for a limited time. enjoy that time utmost, and people should stop being "uguu i am sad !suicide" when they are sad, that's not how it works.

/rant
she_old
Fastest path to happiness is optimism, another way to be happy is self-deception but that doesn't always work out for everyone.
silmarilen
i became happy when suddenly 500 people on osu wanted to be friends with me
Shohei Ohtani
I sometimes cannot hold my horny when I see peppy.
Yarissa
Fussing about happiness being a bunch of chemicals in the brain and objectifying it makes it something it's not. I am well aware of the science behind it- there's science behind everything we feel and do. But that doesn't mean we should detach ourselves from our emotions just because they're chemical reactions. We all need our feelings-- they go hand in hand with our instincts and guide our actions/ define who we are. While it may be hard to deal with the harder emotions, learning to confront sadness and depression is a great way to mature and build character. If you really want to be happy, stop and think about how you will be the happiest in the years to come and if your happiness is what matters the most to you. If you see nothing but suffering and still want to commit suicide, think again about how the people who may love you will feel after you've passed away. That suffering, to them, may be worse than death itself. Suicide is the ultimate selfish act someone can commit. You would be better off exercising new options for your future and trying to find some other meaning to your life. Where you may not find meaning in your life from happiness, your search for meaning may be all the meaning you need. I've personally found that there's a lot to my life apart from the ways I've been spending it for the past 21 years in my more recent endeavors.

Anyways, I don't mean to lecture anyone. Your life is your own and you are the one who decides what to do with it. While others may influence how you live they hold no true sway over your actions and words.

/me tries to be insightful
Hika
But I'm not depressed. HOHHOHOHOHOH
Besides, only you yourself can define happiness for yourself & yourself only. It's not complicating at all, it's just a feeling.
ryza
tl;dr
Yarissa

Silynn wrote:

tl;dr
I spent 10 minutes on writing that damn you ; A ;
ryza
<3
Vext_old

CDFA wrote:

I sometimes cannot hold my horny when I see peppy.


Who loves ya bby.
mathexpert

Kaoru wrote:

Fussing about happiness being a bunch of chemicals in the brain and objectifying it makes it something it's not. I am well aware of the science behind it- there's science behind everything we feel and do. But that doesn't mean we should detach ourselves from our emotions just because they're chemical reactions. We all need our feelings-- they go hand in hand with our instincts and guide our actions/ define who we are. While it may be hard to deal with the harder emotions, learning to confront sadness and depression is a great way to mature and build character. If you really want to be happy, stop and think about how you will be the happiest in the years to come and if your happiness is what matters the most to you. If you see nothing but suffering and still want to commit suicide, think again about how the people who may love you will feel after you've passed away. That suffering, to them, may be worse than death itself. Suicide is the ultimate selfish act someone can commit. You would be better off exercising new options for your future and trying to find some other meaning to your life. Where you may not find meaning in your life from happiness, your search for meaning may be all the meaning you need. I've personally found that there's a lot to my life apart from the ways I've been spending it for the past 21 years in my more recent endeavors.

Anyways, I don't mean to lecture anyone. Your life is your own and you are the one who decides what to do with it. While others may influence how you live they hold no true sway over your actions and words.

/me tries to be insightful
10/10, would read again - pretty well said.

And like I wrote earlier, ignorance is bliss.
Hika
I actually read that twice to process that. Well said, but then again people won't take that into consideration, especially the part about suicide because apparently suffering for them currently is just enough to take their life away. I don't think anyone has it too hard to the point where they should do it. But if you're starting to feel suicidal, it's only best to talk it out with someone instead of taking stuff in your own hands.

~opinions~
thelewa

Kaoru wrote:

Fussing about happiness being a bunch of chemicals in the brain and objectifying it makes it something it's not. I am well aware of the science behind it- there's science behind everything we feel and do. But that doesn't mean we should detach ourselves from our emotions just because they're chemical reactions. We all need our feelings-- they go hand in hand with our instincts and guide our actions/ define who we are. While it may be hard to deal with the harder emotions, learning to confront sadness and depression is a great way to mature and build character. If you really want to be happy, stop and think about how you will be the happiest in the years to come and if your happiness is what matters the most to you. If you see nothing but suffering and still want to commit suicide, think again about how the people who may love you will feel after you've passed away. That suffering, to them, may be worse than death itself. Suicide is the ultimate selfish act someone can commit. You would be better off exercising new options for your future and trying to find some other meaning to your life. Where you may not find meaning in your life from happiness, your search for meaning may be all the meaning you need. I've personally found that there's a lot to my life apart from the ways I've been spending it for the past 21 years in my more recent endeavors.

Anyways, I don't mean to lecture anyone. Your life is your own and you are the one who decides what to do with it. While others may influence how you live they hold no true sway over your actions and words.

/me tries to be insightful
I honestly don't understand how committing suicide would be a selfish act. Then again, I've never felt sad when either my friends or family members have died.
she_old

thelewa wrote:

I honestly don't understand how committing suicide would be a selfish act.
Because standards are set to that you should care about others, and your death would make people sad, no matter how much you'd be suffering it'd be considered selfish.
kriers
suicide is the most selfish act one can commit
thelewa
Would a suffering person really care about what other people think, anyway?

kriers wrote:

suicide is the most selfish act one can commit
That's also the most useless thing you can say to a suicidal person.
she_old
I highly doubt they would care, and I don't think they should care, it's their life and they should be able to decide what to do with it.
However I'd dislike it if a friend of mine suicided, but that's what makes other people selfish, keeping people alive when they want to die.
thelewa

loseri wrote:

I highly doubt they would care, and I don't think they should care, it's their life and they should be able to decide what to do with it.
I like you.
Kanye West

loseri wrote:

I highly doubt they would care, and I don't think they should care, it's their life and they should be able to decide what to do with it.
Sure you can decide to do what you want with your life, as long as it doesn't hurt others. Suicide hurts others, so it's still wrong.
mathexpert

kriers wrote:

suicide is the most selfish act one can commit
Depending on context, it can also be the most selfless act one can commit.

playing devil's advocate is so fun
thelewa

Kanye West wrote:

loseri wrote:

I highly doubt they would care, and I don't think they should care, it's their life and they should be able to decide what to do with it.
Sure you can decide to do what you want with your life, as long as it doesn't hurt others. Suicide hurts others, so it's still wrong.
You've gotta be shitting me

So basically we're supposed to cut all of our social ties and become completely forgotten by EVERYONE, and only then we're allowed to kill ourselves? That takes a lot of time, man.
Hika
But why would you want to try so hard to be forgotten & put yourself through even more pain? That just leads to another level of depression of some sort. Aren't you supposed to be achieving happiness?
she_old

Kanye West wrote:

loseri wrote:

I highly doubt they would care, and I don't think they should care, it's their life and they should be able to decide what to do with it.
Sure you can decide to do what you want with your life, as long as it doesn't hurt others. Suicide hurts others, so it's still wrong.
Personally I think if you don't like something you should prevent/stop it.
If you don't like being bullied you should try and fight your way out of it.
If you don't like a certain fact you should just get yourself to not care or accept it or even change it depending on the situation.
People being suicidal are unstable so trying to stop them would be a way to getting hurt, and if it doesn't work out then you should just move on, at least you tried to do something.
thelewa

Hika wrote:

But why would you want to try so hard to be forgotten & put yourself through even more pain? That just leads to another level of depression of some sort. Aren't you supposed to be achieving happiness?
Not really, no. It's hard to achieve something that I've never experienced.

Oh yeah, if committing suicide is a selfish act, then isn't preventing another person from committing suicide because it would cause me grief, also selfish?
she_old

thelewa wrote:

then isn't preventing another person from committing suicide because it would cause me grief, also selfish?
Yes, it's like keeping a dying cat or any other kind of unsaveable case alive.

Or imagine cutting off someone's arms and legs but keeping them alive while they're unable to do anything.
Hika
It's a lose-lose situation either way.
Jenny

loseri wrote:

thelewa wrote:

then isn't preventing another person from committing suicide because it would cause me grief, also selfish?
Yes, it's like keeping a dying cat or any other kind of unsaveable case alive.
Let me nazi this: An apparently unsavable case.
Kanye West

thelewa wrote:

Hika wrote:

But why would you want to try so hard to be forgotten & put yourself through even more pain? That just leads to another level of depression of some sort. Aren't you supposed to be achieving happiness?
Not really, no. It's hard to achieve something that I've never experienced.

Oh yeah, if committing suicide is a selfish act, then isn't preventing another person from committing suicide because it would cause me grief, also selfish?
But you're not doing it to avoid grief, you're doing it so they don't hurt themselves
thelewa
I could be causing them further pain if I were to prevent them from committing suicide.
Hika
It's also further pain for you (if you actually cared) if they actually did suicide. What's the point we're trying to make here?
thelewa
I'm trying to say that preventing people from committing suicide is wrong, since it's their life and they have every right in the world to do whatever they want with it. Taking away the right to die is one of the most cruel things ever.
she_old
Basically: Prevent individual from suiciding = Individual suffers for eternity while others just continue their normal lives.
Let individual suicide = Others will be sad for a while and carry on after a long or short while. (differs per person) after that; resume normal lives.
Kanye West
Why do people commit suicide? Emotional pain. It's not like some permanent disability, you can fix it.

In my opinion it's a lot worse to have actual disabilities like muscular dystrophy than emotional pain. Basically quit being a little bitch and try to solve your problems instead of wallowing in your own fucking sorrows or avoiding them by killing yourself and maybe you can get somewhere
kriers
I'm pretty sure most people that commited suicide could have been stopped and lived a happy life

also I wish I could slap you lewa
thelewa

Kanye West wrote:

Why do people commit suicide? Emotional pain. It's not like some permanent disability, you can fix it.
Or because they suffer from some sort of chronic illness that causes them massive pain that cannot be relieved in any way.

Like cluster headaches, for example.

Also, you can't fix everything.
Kanye West
Also suicide isn't always wrong.

In my opinion it's only wrong when there's nothing wrong with someone except some emotional pain or depression, and if they faced their problems, they could move on and live happy lives like kriers said.

I think the only people that have a right to suicide are people that were born with a life-altering disability which lets them do next to nothing or had an accident that left them a vegetable.
thelewa
ALSO IT'S NOT LIKE I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF, I'M JUST EXPRESSING MY OPINIONS ON THIS MATTER

JESUS CHRIST

this was directed at kriers
Jenny
hello kriers I have to sign your post - in the end it's all case to case and there's no "general solution" but giving a try and testing the limits / honesty of a person before going "all-in" about this would never be a wrong step :v

3:55 AM, gj keeping me awake you bastards lovely individuals
Vext_old
All I ever think of is Dante's Inferno when I hear suicide.

Seventh Circle (Violence)

The seventh circle houses the violent. Its entry is guarded by the Minotaur, and it is divided into three rings:

Middle ring: In this ring are suicides and profligates. The suicides – the violent against self – are transformed into gnarled thorny bushes and trees and then fed upon by Harpies. The trees are a metaphor for the state of mind in which suicide is committed. Dante learns that these suicides, unique among the dead, will not be corporally resurrected after the final judgement since they gave away their bodies through suicide; instead they will maintain their bushy form, with their own corpses hanging from the thorny limbs. The other residents of this ring are the profligates, who destroyed their lives by destroying the means by which life is sustained – i.e. money and property. They are perpetually chased and mauled by ferocious dogs. The destruction wrought upon the wood by the profligates' flight and punishment as they crash through the undergrowth causes further suffering to the suicides, who cannot move out of the way.
silmarilen

loseri wrote:

Personally I think if you don't like something you should prevent/stop it.
If you don't like being bullied you should try and fight your way out of it.
i have asperger, i am already afraid to talk to people (yes even my parents in some cases), how am i going to get myself out of getting bullyd?
i used to get bullyd at school and i only got out of it because the bullys left school.
Kanye West
I feel closest to people that I'm most detached from. Makes no sense, but I don't really make much sense to begin with. I also try hardest to gain approval from people that I know will never approve of me.

Also I'm seriously considering quitting this game and finding a less time-consuming hobby. Perhaps writing? Maybe I'll start a blog.

silmarilen wrote:

loseri wrote:

Personally I think if you don't like something you should prevent/stop it.
If you don't like being bullied you should try and fight your way out of it.
i have asperger, i am already afraid to talk to people (yes even my parents in some cases), how am i going to get myself out of getting bullyd?
i used to get bullyd at school and i only got out of it because the bullys left school.
I can't really say much but I'm introverted also and learning to talk with people only comes with practice. And having hobbies helps too.
Seph
I actuaLly started to stop caring about some people now.
Wojjan

thelewa wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Sure you can decide to do what you want with your life, as long as it doesn't hurt others. Suicide hurts others, so it's still wrong.
You've gotta be shitting me

So basically we're supposed to cut all of our social ties and become completely forgotten by EVERYONE, and only then we're allowed to kill ourselves? That takes a lot of time, man.
You know what else cuts social ties? Suicide.
Kanye West
Oh shit.
Foxtrot

Kanye West wrote:

Maybe I'll start a blog.
The path to self-destruction.
Vext_old
There are so many things I could confess to or reveal about myself. But what reason would anyone have to reveal a weakness or tell the person they are deceiving that they are deceiving them?

That being said, I confess I was a pony hipster for liking the original My Little Pony way back when and for that reason I did not want to like the new one. As well I watched the first 2 episodes when they came out and hated it, but recently was forced to watch from ep 3 onward and now am actually enjoying it. I hate that I like it now lol.
Emaal
Suicide is a permanent solution to something that is temporary.
silmarilen
asperger is very permanent
she_old

silmarilen wrote:

loseri wrote:

Personally I think if you don't like something you should prevent/stop it.
If you don't like being bullied you should try and fight your way out of it.
i have asperger, i am already afraid to talk to people (yes even my parents in some cases), how am i going to get myself out of getting bullyd?
i used to get bullyd at school and i only got out of it because the bullys left school.
I have no idea how it is to have asperger so I can't say much about it.
Fighting is usually a working solution if you're stronger than the bullies.
Emaal

silmarilen wrote:

asperger is very permanent
>medication
and at some point you'll hopefully start to realize, that going around and saying "i have asperger" as an excuse to everything, will get you nowhere, and by that stop saying so, and actually getting somewhere, whilst having asperger.

therefore it is temporary in that state
silmarilen
im not using asperger as an axcuse for everything, most people dont even know i have it. im just saying that asperger seriously hinders you and it is permanent
she_old
I honestly didn't expect that silma had aspergers until I saw him say that he has it. (few days or weeks ago or something like that)
Yarissa

mathexpert9981 wrote:

kriers wrote:

suicide is the most selfish act one can commit
Depending on context, it can also be the most selfless act one can commit.

playing devil's advocate is so fun
Oh you
Topic Starter
Aeidxst

Vext wrote:

There are so many things I could confess to or reveal about myself. But what reason would anyone have to reveal a weakness or tell the person they are deceiving that they are deceiving them?
Wish my english was good enough to explain, but it's a real long story.
Yarissa

Vext wrote:

There are so many things I could confess to or reveal about myself. But what reason would anyone have to reveal a weakness or tell the person they are deceiving that they are deceiving them?
Honesty builds trust- even if it requires coming clean. I am the sort of person who likes to be honest ALL the time, even if it hurts to lie. Because I know the more I lie or decieve someone the worse the deception may be. It's easiest to just be yourself around others. While revealing your weaknesses or deceptions may build trust, it's also a way to maybe come to terms with those weaknesses, regardless of what they may be.
she_old
I confess that I've written extremely long texts several times here but ended up being embarrassed and didn't press ctrl+enter.
Wojjan

loseri wrote:

I confess that I've written extremely long texts several times here but ended up being embarrassed and didn't press ctrl+enter.
+1

usually it's for the best, rii. Good job on being critical about your posts.
Hika
I really can't tell if people emotionally hurt other people accidentally or intentionally. The confusion is totally overwhelming when it happens.
Kanye West

Hika wrote:

I really can't tell if people emotionally hurt other people accidentally or intentionally.
Both.
Blue Stig
SuicideSuicideSuicide

You keep reminding me of this movie.


vipto
my girlfriend slapped me
under 'special' circumstances....
mathexpert

silmarilen wrote:

loseri wrote:

Personally I think if you don't like something you should prevent/stop it.
If you don't like being bullied you should try and fight your way out of it.
i have asperger, i am already afraid to talk to people (yes even my parents in some cases), how am i going to get myself out of getting bullyd?
i used to get bullyd at school and i only got out of it because the bullys left school.
I've most likely got some form of aspergers - I'm really bad at communication as well. What I've learned about bullies is this - (1) you can't look vulnerable and (2) first impressions are everything. Bullies prey on those who look meek, are shy, and don't have much self confidence. If you sense a bully coming up (if you're anything like me, you'll immediately recognize that type of persona), you have to act totally calm and brash towards him/her - even if you have to fake it. I've found that if you discourage them the first time, they'll fuck off.

Of course, it sounds much easier than it is. Just don't give up because bullies are everywhere & in every facet of life, marginalizing people who may be different than others or fall out of societal or group norms - in school, jobs, family, even this forum.
loser69_old
I have multiple personality disorder.

(/ 3\) OK I said it.
vipto

Chichio69Sami wrote:

I have multiple personality disorder.

(/ 3\) OK I said it.
wow...
loser69_old

vipto wrote:

wow...
Indeed.
Vext_old

Chichio69Sami wrote:

I have multiple personality disorder.

(/ 3\) OK I said it.
Sexi, it's like cheating on you without cheating on you,
loser69_old

Vext wrote:

Sexi, it's like cheating on you without cheating on you,

Hemhem, I get it.
Valentiino
I have totally lost the sense in all time and almost everything that is going on.

NEET for 11 months, big big yeah
Seph
I think I'm growing to the part that I hate that my friends don't give attention to me. Yes, basically attentionwhore.
she_old

Chichio69Sami wrote:

I have multiple personality disorder.

(/ 3\) OK I said it.
I like you now.
Zelda
It makes me sad when people suck at their native language. It also makes me sad when people pull the "second language" card as an excuse for being bad at English.
she_old

Zelda wrote:

It makes me sad when people suck at their native language. It also makes me sad when people pull the "second language" card as an excuse for being bad at English.
I fucking hate people like that.
UnderminE

Zelda wrote:

It makes me sad when people suck at their native language.
How is that possible? Silly grammar mistakes?
ReVeNg3r
the whole english sucks
rozpravajme slovensky
vagy magyarul
nebo i česky když třeba
just no english
she_old
idi u tri picke materine

English is better.
Hika

UnderminE wrote:

Zelda wrote:

It makes me sad when people suck at their native language.
How is that possible? Silly grammar mistakes?
It's possible. I sometimes mess up my first language because I don't speak it enough with my family.
ReVeNg3r

loseri wrote:

idi u tri picke materine
idi ty
sakana_aki
I confess that I haven't ever watched Top Gun.
Zelda

UnderminE wrote:

Zelda wrote:

It makes me sad when people suck at their native language.
How is that possible? Silly grammar mistakes?
You don't want to know.
Hika

sakana_aki wrote:

I confess that I haven't ever watched Top Gun.
It's okay, I haven't either!
Vext_old

Hika wrote:

sakana_aki wrote:

I confess that I haven't ever watched Top Gun.
It's okay, I haven't either!
Me either! I vote we all gather together and watch Top Gun via livestream one day.
sakana_aki

Vext wrote:

Hika wrote:

It's okay, I haven't either!
Me either! I vote we all gather together and watch Top Gun via livestream one day.
Deal!
sakana_aki
I also confess that I just lost the game.
Emaal
I confess that I basically just failed an English presentation, due to our powerpoint having spelling errors, because of the other member in the group! \o\
sakana_aki

Emaal wrote:

I confess that I basically just failed an English presentation, due to our powerpoint having spelling errors, because of the other member in the group! \o\
Dude, that sucks...

I confess that I'm eating in history class, even though my teacher told us that it's not allowed. I'm such a rebel
Zelda

Emaal wrote:

I confess that I basically just failed an English presentation, due to our powerpoint having spelling errors, because of the other member in the group! \o\
This, right here, is why you need to be as big a dick as possible in group assignments, and proof-read all the other members' work before presenting it.
Vish024
maal I bet it was you using Australian English. Use standard English from now on.
Emaal

LaVolpe024 wrote:

maal I bet it was you using Australian English. Use standard English from now on.
NEJ DIN KARTOFFEL, BARBER DINE LØG OG SLIK DET TIS OP FRA GULVET
she_old

Emaal wrote:

KARTOFFEL
<3
Zelda

Emaal wrote:

LaVolpe024 wrote:

maal I bet it was you using Australian English. Use standard English from now on.
NEJ DIN KARTOFFEL, BARBER DINE LØG OG SLIK DET TIS OP FRA GULVET
Lol'd harder than I should have. gj Emaal
sakana_aki
^word
Kaona
I confess that I'm not revising when I should be. #yolo #rebel
UnderminE
I confess that I am actually a trap.
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