qlum wrote:

the steelseries g6v2 is also a good option, personally find the keys without a tactile bump a lot nicer than the ones on the razer black widow, also steel series has a better rep in terms of build quality than razer. One other thing is that its not a glossy fingerprint magnet which is a huge bonus for me. The last benefit of the Steelseries is that it supports the old non usb connection which makes it possible to recognise an unlimited number of buttons inputs at the same time in contrary to usb which only supports like 5 at the same time or something. Technically the old connection is also faster than usb because it works on a hardware level. Its not needed to use the connection like that but it can be used which is a good thing and most desktops still have the connector. The black widow can only do usb due to its annoying backlight.


Mechanicals are just a lot nicer especially when typing and yes while osu! benefits from it its normal typing work where mechanical keyboards shine the most.

lolcubes wrote:

Actually there are cheaper keyboards out there, or much higher quality alternatives (with different switches though) for the same price. Here where I live, 6GV2 (70€~) costs a lot less than a blackwidow (90€~), and recently there has been a new version of 6GV2 with red switches, which is only a little more expensive.

Kert wrote:

oklick 555s
I tried laptop keyboard once and realized that it's extremely nice to stream on
After sometime searching for a slim kb with regular button placement + white color I found this one~

Wishy22 wrote:

Blue and Red switches are the lightest you can get, and tactile feedback is good for some players, plus it's cheap (Black Widow). Lighter = better, and yeah all the best players you see around use blue (most of them). Some use black, like Tom69, but as you may know, he taps since his streaming speed by using 2 fingers isn't that fast.

Reds are great too but way more expensive and rare.

Shoily wrote:

Tom69 taps? That imo is way harder than using 2 fingers wow talk about pro

MxG PhiLL wrote:

Why is osu! obsessed with Black Widows? Everything Razer (except maybe naga) is hella overpriced, very ricer and cheap build quality. You could get an awesome Filco for that price.

MxG PhiLL wrote:

Why is osu! obsessed with Razer

MxG PhiLL wrote:

Why is osu! obsessed with Black Widows? Everything Razer (except maybe naga) is hella overpriced, very ricer and cheap build quality. You could get an awesome Filco for that price.

MxG PhiLL wrote:

How do you like reds, kriers? I think they might be better for streaming, but Keigo-san and Cookiezi both use blues, so I think I should just stick with blues. And yeah, the CM Rapids are probably better build quality. Rosewills can also be found in that price range and they are pretty good.

lolcubes wrote:

You can get a red switch 6gv2 for 99$ on amazon. While BlackWidow is cheaper, I'd say it's still not worth the money in the long run.
6gv2 has metal plating below and is resistant to rage.

lolcubes wrote:

Yeah 6gv2 is difficult to find here as well, however I guess amazon helps out a bit with their available shipping. :p
In regular hardware stores, good luck finding even regular black switch 6gv2, here. ._.

Tanzklaue wrote:

lolcubes wrote:

Yeah 6gv2 is difficult to find here as well, however I guess amazon helps out a bit with their available shipping. :p
In regular hardware stores, good luck finding even regular black switch 6gv2, here. ._.

you won't find any mech kb in germany, unless it's the black widow ultimate. can't test switches because of that.

oh well

lolcubes wrote:

Are you sure? I spoke to a german friend of mine and he actually ordered (and cancelled cause he changed his mind) a piece of 6GV2.
But yeah I guess that's not really "in person", so I have no idea now. :<

lolcubes wrote:

Are you sure? I spoke to a german friend of mine and he actually ordered (and cancelled cause he changed his mind) a piece of 6GV2.
But yeah I guess that's not really "in person", so I have no idea now. :<

MxG PhiLL wrote:

Yeah sorry, Filcos are more expensive. I thought Blackwidows were 100 dollars. However, the Filcos have build quality a lot better than the Blackwidows and are worth investing in. If someone is looking for a mechanical keyboard which isn't that expensive, I would recommend maybe Rosewills, a 6GV2 or a DAS.

Brian OA wrote:

Just how much difference does a mechanical keyboard make compared to a membrane keyboard?

BRBP wrote:

Frizz wrote:

I've been using blue switches for 6 months and the sound is still there :p

Then you're not using it properly, and might as well use any other keyboard.

BRBP wrote:

Frizz wrote:

I've been using blue switches for 6 months and the sound is still there :p

Then you're not using it properly, and might as well use any other keyboard.

BRBP wrote:

Frizz wrote:

Then how to use it properly? Please enlighten me with your glorious knowledge.

1. Buy a mechanical, blue switch, keyboard
2. Learn how to type without pressing the key all the way down (what it's made for)
3.
4. Profit

Sorun wrote:

Meh my hands and accuracy has been suffering lately trying to get use to these blue switches, i'm so focused on not bottoming out that i'm not focusing on the map and holding back from bottoming out is fatiguing my hand. How long did it take you guys to get used to this? I thought I would have this down in a day haha. I think I might just like reds better then blue since i'm used to mashing my keyboard and I read the the pressure needed to actuate them is only 45g so there really light, 5g less then blues I believe.

Off-topic - Who else is picking up Black ops 2 tonight, getting ready to head out to target mid night release to pick up the vita and ps3 version.

enik wrote:

Just bought my BlackWidow today and it feels natural after a few hours of play. Honestly, I thought this tactile bump would be much more noticable but I don't feel anything special and just smash keys like on rubber dome keyboard. It still boosted my accuracy and stream skills a little, so yeah, don't think about bottoming out and just play like you used to.

Sorun wrote:

Don't you just love the tactile click? Honestly it's orgasmic on the ear.

RaneFire wrote:

As for keyboards: Anyone know if the coolermaster storm quickfire rapid (Browns) keyboard is any good for osu!? It seems to be 'okay priced' in my country, slightly cheaper than the blackwidow even. Brown switches seem to make a lot of sense too, light and tactile, and function a bit like reds.

Sorun wrote:

Can anyone vouch for the CM quickfire rapid for osu! ? I like my blackwidow, but i'm looking for a keyboard that I can take around with me since I play osu! mostly on the go and most of all the CM is way more easy to replace the keycaps. I plan on buying a custom keycap set :3

So any osu! players actually play with a Cooler master storm quickfire rapid?

RaneFire wrote:

As for keyboards: Anyone know if the coolermaster storm quickfire rapid (Browns) keyboard is any good for osu!? It seems to be 'okay priced' in my country, slightly cheaper than the blackwidow even. Brown switches seem to make a lot of sense too, light and tactile, and function a bit like reds.

koromo wrote:

Sorun wrote:

Can anyone vouch for the CM quickfire rapid for osu! ? I like my blackwidow, but i'm looking for a keyboard that I can take around with me since I play osu! mostly on the go and most of all the CM is way more easy to replace the keycaps. I plan on buying a custom keycap set :3

So any osu! players actually play with a Cooler master storm quickfire rapid?

RaneFire wrote:

As for keyboards: Anyone know if the coolermaster storm quickfire rapid (Browns) keyboard is any good for osu!? It seems to be 'okay priced' in my country, slightly cheaper than the blackwidow even. Brown switches seem to make a lot of sense too, light and tactile, and function a bit like reds.

I am by no means a good osu! player, but I sure love my CM QuickFire Pro with browns. The Pro is pretty much the same as the Rapid, just not tenkeyless (meaning, mine has a numpad). I can't guarantee you'll like it, but it sure is exactly what I was looking for, at least.

To be honest, I'm surprised about browns being so rare around here, tactile feedback similar to blues but not as clicky/loud, and they're pretty light too.

RaneFire wrote:

Haha extra switch samples! That's awesome! Thanks for feedback and info.

Does anyone else have problems like "ghost key presses" where you press "7" and a "b" pops up at the same time, or random double/triple key registers (not even the keys I use on a regular basis). I have this problem on my blackwidow but only once every blue moon.

Is this common on mech keyboards in general or do I just have a "defective one that I can't prove squat" situation. Razer is sticky about warranty replacements from what I hear... especially for something as tedious as this that doesn't really affect use, but just annoys me.

Pizzicato wrote:

it's also available on all switches. this keyboard is great.
it also feels like the blackwidow

TouchFluffyTail wrote:

RaneFire wrote:

Haha extra switch samples! That's awesome! Thanks for feedback and info.

Does anyone else have problems like "ghost key presses" where you press "7" and a "b" pops up at the same time, or random double/triple key registers (not even the keys I use on a regular basis). I have this problem on my blackwidow but only once every blue moon.

Is this common on mech keyboards in general or do I just have a "defective one that I can't prove squat" situation. Razer is sticky about warranty replacements from what I hear... especially for something as tedious as this that doesn't really affect use, but just annoys me.

I get this on my Blackwidow, on my A and L keys, and apparently is common enough an issue with it that you can punch it into google and get results, there's no fix aside from replacing it. (and mine is a release-week-old board so it's long passed warranty)

I really love this keyboard but I really need to replace it due to this, and I don't know if I should get the 2013 version (since I already know I love this board) or gamble on something I can't test drive...

Frizz wrote:

Do you install the driver by any chance?

Sorun wrote:

Had a bit of testing time with the CM storm quickfire rapid and my initial impression is great. Starting from opening the package, everything so far has felt superior to the standard Black widow. Haven't had any play time in osu! yet, but i'll update after testing it further.

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You should have seen my face when I was surprised with a Logoless design!


Oh also it passes the double Shift key test which my Blackwidow didn't.

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG

Just felt like mentioning ~.~

TouchFluffyTail wrote:

Woah what, you can get it without the gaudy logo spammed all over the place? I should definitely look into it then, now I just need to decide if I want to jump to reds or stick to blues...

thelewa wrote:

You should've bought a Qpad MK-50. Seriously, when buying a mechboard that you're going to play osu! with, buy the cheapest one. Mechboards were never designed to be used the way we use them in osu!, and as a result we break the keys that we use to play osu! extremely fast (in comparison to their normal 50 million press lifespan, that is.)

edit: I'm talking from experience, I've owned several really good quality mechboards, latest being a Leopold that cost me a pretty penny. It has 6 broken keys just from playing osu!.

Full Tablet wrote:

thelewa wrote:

You should've bought a Qpad MK-50. Seriously, when buying a mechboard that you're going to play osu! with, buy the cheapest one. Mechboards were never designed to be used the way we use them in osu!, and as a result we break the keys that we use to play osu! extremely fast (in comparison to their normal 50 million press lifespan, that is.)

edit: I'm talking from experience, I've owned several really good quality mechboards, latest being a Leopold that cost me a pretty penny. It has 6 broken keys just from playing osu!.

How can you break so many keys without breaking your fingers first?

"The blue switches are considered to be the best switch for typing because they have a “clicky” tactile bump when the activation point is hit.
While many people prefer them for gaming, it is not as easy to double tap as other switches since the release point is above the actuation point"

"Cherry Red switches are similar to the Cherry MX Blacks in that they are non-tactile.
They require less force to actuate than the Cherry MX Blacks. Most people do not like these switches for typing or gaming because it is so easy to accidentally press keys and make typing errors. "

kriers wrote:

Basically since blues are so much cheaper and the first priority for beginners and adequate players is to build accuracy and streaming ability, going for blues first makes the most sense while you can consider redswitch being for the more advanced players.

cirno- wrote:

I use a red switch and I don't accidentally make typos at all. I went from a cheap Dell keyboard to a red switch CM storm by coolermaster and I love this keyboard. Did it give me the ability to stream 260BPM? Nah. But it feels much nicer. I just wish it had a numpad, but I can live without it.

TouchFluffyTail wrote:

I just ordered a red switch CM Storm earlier today, been using blues for years so it'll be an interesting transition.

Was a hard choice since I quite like my blues, was highly considering browns to keep the tactile bump with less actuation force, but decided to go for all out lightest force. Will post my thoughts after I get it and play with it a bit.

Sorun wrote:

TouchFluffyTail wrote:

I just ordered a red switch CM Storm earlier today, been using blues for years so it'll be an interesting transition.

Was a hard choice since I quite like my blues, was highly considering browns to keep the tactile bump with less actuation force, but decided to go for all out lightest force. Will post my thoughts after I get it and play with it a bit.

Please report back when you get it, I would love to hear your feelings on the transition to red. I'm still considering a Red board just for fun.

Full Tablet wrote:

thelewa wrote:

You should've bought a Qpad MK-50. Seriously, when buying a mechboard that you're going to play osu! with, buy the cheapest one. Mechboards were never designed to be used the way we use them in osu!, and as a result we break the keys that we use to play osu! extremely fast (in comparison to their normal 50 million press lifespan, that is.)

edit: I'm talking from experience, I've owned several really good quality mechboards, latest being a Leopold that cost me a pretty penny. It has 6 broken keys just from playing osu!.

How can you break so many keys without breaking your fingers first?

thelewa wrote:

afaik bones are more durable than the tiny and delicate metal parts in a mechanical switch

Kyou-chan wrote:

cm storm quickfire rapid is usually the cheapest mech keyboard, and its a bit better than the blackwidow in terms of quality etc