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Help on Streaming over 200bpm *longterm*

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Ohrami
To tell how fast you need to stream, just look at the BPM

wtf

Also no, you need strong muscles to stream fast
Wishy
You'd be surprised at how weak I am. Don't you move your fingers with your tendons?
silmarilen
your tendons come from your muscles, so to move them you still use muscles
Neptune
I'm not the strongest either, and my streaming is badass too (210-240 on several days) , so I have no idea. I think it's also a bit of a mental thing.
Though, in my first days of osu I couldn't hit like 140bpm so, the more you play, the more you get.

For example, Cookiezi! Have you noticed his arm muscles? They aren't smashing either, really not smashing. And he can stream 222bpm continuous without problem and whatever not. Talent maybe? Passion? Or just strong fingers?
Tanzklaue
my streaming, while generally shit, is on some days more off than on others. for example, yesterday, despite being horribly exhausted from too few sleep, I could do some of the best streaming I had in a while (fcing a 196 BPM insane with OD8 and an acc that despite not being good was not horribly bad for my standards). on many other days, I don't even hit triplets correctly.

speed overall comes over time, and everyone progresses in different speeds there. stamina and accuracy (which are a necessity for long streams) is something that can only be build up with long practice times, unless you are naturally talented in that regard.
winber1
starting writing with your left hand until you can write as well as your right hand. voila. instant streaming
Tanzklaue

winber1 wrote:

starting writing with your left hand until you can write as well as your right hand. voila. instant streaming
who writes with only one hand?nvm penwriting ofc
buny

winber1 wrote:

starting writing with your left hand until you can write as well as your right hand. voila. instant streaming
how does that work?
Rianne_old

winber1 wrote:

starting writing with your left hand until you can write as well as your right hand. voila. instant streaming
I can do that and it doesn't help at all.
silmarilen
it is pretty much impossible to become as good at writing with your other hand as with your main hand
even if for some reason you cant use your main hand anymore and you have to switch
Rianne_old
both my hands have ugly hand writing and feel about as smooth while writing, it's just that I use right more often due to being used to it
cirno-_old
I've gotten to the point I can FC normal insane maps with normal 140-160BPM on my 1st through 5th try. For example:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/183541
I S'd that first try and nearly S'd it with hidden right after.

But these kinds of streams:
http://youtu.be/A-WU99hSJs8

are still freakishly difficult for me. And streams that are longer than like 15 notes, you know like mendes, are also extremely difficult. I lose my sense of rhythm and end up attempting to gain it back as I hit lots of 50's/100's/ and a miss or two till the end of the long stream.

My main problem is that I'm not consistent. One day, I'll be alright and think I'm getting better, and the next day do as bad as I did 2 months ago. Streams are the only thing I'm not consistent on. Jumps I am slowly improving every day at, but streams not so much.

I don't want to keep S'ing just easy insane songs. I want to improve to play harder insane songs, but remain consistent of course.

So how do you practice streams? I, and maybe others, are totally gonna copy you ;)

I'll edit this post as advice comes to keep it organised and helpful.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
GoldenWolf
Playing low bpm streams ( http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871 for example ) helped me a lot. Listen to the hitsounds and ... practice :p
cirno-_old

BRBP wrote:

There's already two stream threads, how many more do we need?
search.php?keywords=stream&terms=all&author=&fid%5B%5D=13&sc=1&sd=d&sr=topics&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

I did that before making this topic. I'm not going to bump a super old thread, and this isn't about how fast your stream hitting speed is, so I say this thread is alright. Maybe streams should get its own sub-forum :P

GoldenWolf wrote:

Playing low bpm streams ( http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871 for example ) helped me a lot. Listen to the hitsounds and ... practice :p
Just played it. S'd first try but broke a combo on some slider. Good map. Gives me confidence. Guess my problem is maybe I'm a bit ahead of myself concerning BPM?
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Pacemaker
I train my basic streaming technique by just playing random insanes. 180-190 BPM are the most fun ones imo.

For physical training I use:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48098&m=0#

[SOLO] + Nofail. I can feel the pain in my arm whenever I just think about it.
winber1

cirno- wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/183541
I S'd that first try and nearly S'd it with hidden right after.
WTF I'M RANK #7 NOW.

i mean, uhh, what golden wolf said.

your cursor needs to move at a more steady rate, and just try not to panic when streaming even if you feel like when you're behind or ahead, just keep streaming. Unless you get x's, then you can panic a bit until you get back on track, but that's only if you miss.
Jordan
I have quite the same problem, i got worse at streaming every day since more than 1 month already. No matter how much I try to practice I keep getting worse at streams.
MillhioreF
Merged cirno-'s thread into Aqo's thread.
VoidnOwO

MillhioreF wrote:

Merged cirno-'s thread into Aqo's thread.
I won
enik
Can you please link the map on the video? I have stream complitation, but not this long one. (hate this search -.-`)
edit: nevermind, found this part in the middle of [V2 BPM150].
cirno-_old

enik wrote:

Can you please link the map on the video? I have stream complitation, but not this long one. (hate this search -.-`)
edit: nevermind, found this part in the middle of [V2 BPM150].
Yea I just edited the map. That's all.
buny
no acc
Guujin
Just play high bpm stream map all day long for several days until you feel pain, then rest or go do something else then repeat next day until satisfied.
Oh yeah mech keyboard helps a lot, but streaming fast is also possible on a laptop keyboard lol.
GoldenWolf
Mech keyboard doesn't help for speed, but it does for acc/stamina (at least for me)
winber1

GoldenWolf wrote:

Mech keyboard doesn't help for speed, but it does for acc/stamina (at least for me)
you, sir, are weird
Wishy
That's true for me actually, I didn't get faster by getting a mech keyboard, in fact I got a little slower at first.
silmarilen
i thought the main reason people think mech is better because it gives you more speed
Wishy
From the moment I got my mech keyboard my single tapping endurance became better. My accuracy/endurance@streams too, this might be interpreted by some players who could only do (for example) 5 hits streams@255 BPM feel that they can stream faster just because they can do 9 or 10 hit streams now.
Sorun

Ami Furi Koneko wrote:

you don't get speed by lifting weights, especially heavy ones (they actually make muscles slower).
Lol
lolcubes
It probably has something to do with the old keyboard. My old keyboard had really hard keys, was a slim scissor switch keyboard and swapping to a mech was a giant relief.
Oh and even with mech I cannot stream with x/z. They are just too close to each other for me and makes my fingers twitch, that's why I use c/s for streaming and it seems to work for me.
kriers
z/x is truly ideal when you have small hands like mine \o/
weeaboo toolbag
streaming is more of a mental skill than a physical skill. physical shit is one of the very few things that america is better at when compared to korea. if streaming is a physical skill then why are koreans significantly better than the majority of americans at this game?
kriers

weeaboo toolbag wrote:

streaming is more of a mental skill than a physical skill. physical shit is one of the very few things that america is better at when compared to korea. if streaming is a physical skill then why are koreans significantly better than the majority of americans at this game?
WRONG

It's a combination of mental and physcial skill. Physical skill is required for fingers to move fast enough, mental skill is required to make your fingers move with rythm.

Why are you comparing Korea and US when it comes to fingers not body strength
Kanye West

kriers wrote:

weeaboo toolbag wrote:

streaming is more of a mental skill than a physical skill. physical shit is one of the very few things that america is better at when compared to korea. if streaming is a physical skill then why are koreans significantly better than the majority of americans at this game?
WRONG

It's a combination of mental and physcial skill. Physical skill is required for fingers to move fast enough, mental skill is required to make your fingers move with rythm.

Why are you comparing Korea and US when it comes to fingers not body strength
because americans suck
GoldenWolf
Why are you even comparing Korea to US, implying Korea is superior ? That's racist.
winber1

GoldenWolf wrote:

Why are you even comparing Korea to US, implying Korea is superior ? That's racist.
korea is best

and i'm chinese
VoidnOwO
:P
thelewa

winber1 wrote:

GoldenWolf wrote:

Why are you even comparing Korea to US, implying Korea is superior ? That's racist.
korea is best

and i'm chinese
Finland is best

and I'm Finnish
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