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Mirage
I'm playing XCOM :(
Andrea
Good job, Tom.
Milkshake
you both are awesome ): !
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thelewa

Maddy wrote:

I'm playing XCOM :(
Oh yeah XCOM seems pretty awesome, people say I could simulate Muv-Luv with it.
ReVeNg3r
who plays for being #1(being Cookiezi or wtf) ,quit
who just plays for fun ,why should quit

and Tom69 is in top5 atm ,but im sure he is not #1 YET
Mirage

thelewa wrote:

Maddy wrote:

I'm playing XCOM :(
Oh yeah XCOM seems pretty awesome, people say I could simulate Muv-Luv with it.
What the actual fuck.
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thelewa
Whoops that's probably the wrong game

actually it is the right game, the older X-COM games are very similar to Muv-Luv: Alternative in their scenarios.
enik
Omg Tom69 is good.
Wishy
No matter what you play there will always be some Asians that are and will be better than you can ever be.

We should try this game called suicide.
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thelewa
But Tom69 is not an Asian, so what you just said makes no sense.

Unless you're talking about Cookiezi, but that's just one guy who has better aim and worse streaming.
Tanzklaue

thelewa wrote:

But Tom69 is not an Asian, so what you just said makes no sense.

Unless you're talking about Cookiezi, but that's just one guy who has better aim and worse streaming.
and cookiezi has like endless stamina. it's actually inhuman.
Cyclohexane
You should try this game called mapping, it's pretty cool if you play by the rules
Wishy
You still got rrtyui who can FC Airman and Pluto so yeah. Asians already won the game they've moved to new games to dominate, make everyone commit suicide by showing them how bad they are compared to them, and quit.

Best thing we can do is play something KR/CN/JP people don't like.
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thelewa

Tanzklaue wrote:

thelewa wrote:

But Tom69 is not an Asian, so what you just said makes no sense.

Unless you're talking about Cookiezi, but that's just one guy who has better aim and worse streaming.
and cookiezi has like endless stamina. it's actually inhuman.
And Tom69 doesn't have endless stamina?

Eiji Kuinbii, anyone?

Have you seen his video of Freedom Dive, he doesn't get tired at the streams at all, I'd say his and Cookiezi's stamina are the same. Actually Tom69 might have better stamina by now.

Wishy22 wrote:

You still got rrtyui who can FC Airman and Pluto so yeah. Asians already won the game they've moved to new games to dominate, make everyone commit suicide by showing them how bad they are compared to them, and quit.

Best thing we can do is play something KR/CN/JP people don't like.
Tom69 is better at streams and accuracy than rrtyui. rrtyui only has better aim.

Also wow Wishy22 you really like putting yourself down. Do you believe in the master race bullshit too, if you believe that Asians are somehow genetically better at games than other races?
Wishy
Pylons.

Having a Tom Vs. Cookiezi discussion is pointless. Only 2 things you can say for sure are:

1- Cookiezi's aim was way too good.

2- Tom tapping technique gives him a big advantage@streaming.

You can the discuss about every record out there but remember you should take into account how many plays each score took, and we can't get that data probably.
silmarilen
still have to see tom get 1600 combo on FD
shame he doesnt like the map
Cyclohexane
Play Rock Band then I guess, the game sucks yeah but you're not gonna get asians on that thing
Wishy

Mr Color wrote:

Play Rock Band then I guess, the game sucks yeah but you're not gonna get asians on that thing
Sucks to play that stuff since best players = real musicians. :(
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thelewa

Wishy22 wrote:

Pylons.

Having a Tom Vs. Cookiezi discussion is pointless. Only 2 things you can say for sure are:

1- Cookiezi's aim was way too good.

2- Tom tapping technique gives him a big advantage@streaming.

You can the discuss about every record out there but remember you should take into account how many plays each score took, and we can't get that data probably.
Eiji Kuinbii wasn't tapping though. Cookiezi's "inhuman" stamina couldn't handle that and Tom got 99% acc on it.
Wishy
I still wonder what accuracy Cookiezi could have achieved. He was #1 with that accuracy so no wonder he didn't try to improve it. Dunno if he actually got tired by playing that, but for instance I don't really get tired and my problem is not going too fast or too slow, and of course my stamina is not even close to Cookiezi's, so I guess he could do way better if he wanted to. Dunno if he could beat Tom's acc, I bet he could if he tried. Which is why we can't really compare them, many of his scores are damn old and he was beaten after he stopped playing, so we can't really know if he could've done better.

And another thing you can say for sure:

3- Cookiezi could sight-read AR 11.
Aqo

Wishy22 wrote:

No matter what you play there will always be some Asians that are and will be better than you can ever be.

We should try this game called suicide.
Asians have a long tradition of suicide aka harakiri, they're better than you at even that.
Purple
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75831&m=0


Mendes DT'd. Crazy.
But rrtyui is more cookiezi like.
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thelewa
Anyway I said in the first post that Tom69 will never become Cookiezi, because he doesn't want to become Cookiezi. So this discussion is pointless.
Wishy
Best player is, without doubt, thelewa. All rest are wannabes, fags and gays.
Tom69_old

Wishy22 wrote:

Best player is, without doubt, thelewa. All rest are wannabes, fags and gays.
Aqo
The only thing stopping Tom from surpassing cookiezi is reading inconsistent distance spacings. If he started playing a bunch of (shitty) old maps he'd get better at that and then FC Airman/Pluto/etc and nobody would be able to say anything anymore.

gogo Tom ~ play for fun ~ FC TheBB random play ~
enik

Aqo wrote:

SPOILER
and then train and practice for hours every day, learning new techniques, improving your reaction time and execution, learning advanced patterns and followups, mastering impossible speed of execution with insane accuracy, learning to read people's reactions before they even come up with them themselves; until eventually 2-3 years later you're way better than you ever imagined you'd be when you just started - and then, you notice/finally-realize what skill level the top players are able to play on, and then feel like you're a complete nobody that knows nothing because they'll still be infinitely better than you in every possible way.

and they'll also all be asians except for like 1-2 guys

oh well. video games.
Btw Tom69 beat a lot more experienced players than he is.
Milkshake

Tom69 wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

Best player is, without doubt, thelewa. All rest are wannabes, fags and gays.
Tom69_old

Aqo wrote:

The only thing stopping Tom from surpassing cookiezi is reading inconsistent distance spacings. If he started playing a bunch of shitty old maps he'd get better at that and then FC Airman/Pluto/etc and nobody would be able to say anything anymore.
Well... the main reason my aim "sucks" at maps like pluto is that I don't like playing nomod if I can play HR.
Got over 400 combo on pluto with HD HR and over 500 combo on airman with HD HR... so I guess it's quite okay. ^^"

Still, rrtyui's aim is probably better. But keep in mind that he needs millions of tries for his crazy FCs like airman. Even http://osu.ppy.sh/b/101178 took him hours while I did my record within ~10 tries. :p


Can't touch thelewa after all. :<
Wishy
Getting into fighting games competitive scene is kind of impossible right now. Most top players have been playing the same game for like... a decade? Best players in fighting games have been pretty much the same guys...

And yeah rrtyui pretty much drills maps way too much, he doesn't get insane records in just a few plays like you or Cookiezi did.
Aqo

Wishy22 wrote:

Getting into fighting games competitive scene is kind of impossible right now. Most top players have been playing the same game for like... a decade? Best players in fighting games have been pretty much the same guys...
You can get into the scene, you just need to have strong mentality and be ready to accept the fact that about 2000 of your first matches will all be losses. It's kinda like if you could only score on maps in osu by winning #1 on a multiplayer room, and the only people online every day to play with were tom, lewa and rrtyui. have fun not getting any scores at all for ~some time~
Once you actually start taking wins against the experienced players after all of that losing it really pays off and feels great. But it's a hard road to get there.
OnosakiHito
Naja, du bist gespächiger als Cookiezi, das muss man dir lassen. Hehe
silmarilen

Wishy22 wrote:

I still wonder what accuracy Cookiezi could have achieved. He was #1 with that accuracy so no wonder he didn't try to improve it. Dunno if he actually got tired by playing that, but for instance I don't really get tired and my problem is not going too fast or too slow, and of course my stamina is not even close to Cookiezi's, so I guess he could do way better if he wanted to. Dunno if he could beat Tom's acc, I bet he could if he tried. Which is why we can't really compare them, many of his scores are damn old and he was beaten after he stopped playing, so we can't really know if he could've done better.

And another thing you can say for sure:

3- Cookiezi could sight-read AR 11.
cookiezi has 1 AR11 score afaik and i heard he needed tons of trys for that
God_old_1

silmarilen wrote:

cookiezi has 1 AR11 score afaik and i heard he needed tons of trys for that
He is probably talking about ar9+dt. But about hr+dt, i spectated him playing some happy girl map with it and it took him just few tries. Then he improved his score with dt+hd, i think, because i cant find it anymore.
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thelewa

enik wrote:

Aqo wrote:

SPOILER
and then train and practice for hours every day, learning new techniques, improving your reaction time and execution, learning advanced patterns and followups, mastering impossible speed of execution with insane accuracy, learning to read people's reactions before they even come up with them themselves; until eventually 2-3 years later you're way better than you ever imagined you'd be when you just started - and then, you notice/finally-realize what skill level the top players are able to play on, and then feel like you're a complete nobody that knows nothing because they'll still be infinitely better than you in every possible way.

and they'll also all be asians except for like 1-2 guys

oh well. video games.
Btw Tom69 beat a lot more experienced players than he is.
That's the cool thing about Tom69. He has the least experience out of all the current "pro" players, and he's still among the very best.
ReVeNg3r
Cookiezi can play even "AR12" ,i wonder who else
its not just about some tops..

EDIT: he really improved in streaming , probably becasue playing all day
Wishy

Aqo wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

Getting into fighting games competitive scene is kind of impossible right now. Most top players have been playing the same game for like... a decade? Best players in fighting games have been pretty much the same guys...
You can get into the scene, you just need to have strong mentality and be ready to accept the fact that about 2000 of your first matches will all be losses. It's kinda like if you could only score on maps in osu by winning #1 on a multiplayer room, and the only people online every day to play with were tom, lewa and rrtyui. have fun not getting any scores at all for ~some time~
Once you actually start taking wins against the experienced players after all of that losing it really pays off and feels great. But it's a hard road to get there.
It's not like that, and I know people who play fighting games a lot, you're just many years behind and you will never be able to make up for that. There may be some particular cases of people with great reflexes that make it there, but top players have always been the same, and just sometimes some random guy makes it to EVO top 16.

You can "always" make it actually, if you spend 18 hours a day for like 3 years maybe. And sometimes you hit your top skill and you're still no good. Some people is just better at some stuff.
Pacemaker

Wishy22 wrote:

And sometimes you hit your top skill and you're still no good.
Um, excuse me, it's true that you can get to a point where you can say that you've reached the climax of your skill, but that doesn't mean there is a wall that will prevent you from getting any better. Lol
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thelewa
Oh don't mind him, he just likes to make excuses for himself. Even if he is acting like a total douche and putting other people down in the process.
enik
Hey, you always can achieve any heights you wish, beat all the top players and be the number one in any kind of games. No matter how much you behind right now or what's your eye shape. It's all about priorities. If you put your goal above school, job, everything in your life and if you're able to stick to your goal no matter what then some day you'll be the best. It just takes a lot of effort and hard work but if you play casual/for fun what do you expect?
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