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Yousei Teikoku - Wahrheit (Approval)

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Saten
lol Andrea, stop being a ninja
I was about to give him kds when I got the fixes from Kokatsu. I'm not that forgetful
I wanted to give him that kds fml


Anyway... Updated
lolcubes

Saten wrote:

[Saten]
Well, you're the creator, and it's your diff. Doesn't really need to be called like that, right? I am at a loss here though, maybe should name it something more song related. I think it's fine, it's a collab mapset
I understand, however it seems odd since noone else but you had part in this, and you are the person who submitted it. I was thinking that you could rename it to, for example, [Truth]. Wahrheit means truth in German, and also it's song related and hints what the song is about as well (well obviously haha).

OD8 is a necessity here. OD7 is just way too easy. Don't worry about the final spinner, it's easy enough (240~ spin completes it just fine, which is lower what spunout spins anyway) with OD8. Sure it's enough but when I spun, I had about 15% HP left and if one messes up at the end, you're dead unless you can spin really fast. You'll have to convince me more
The issue is, it's too lenient on accuracy. Even with OD8 this isn't hard to SS at all (I consider myself an average player mostly, I had 3x100 with OD8 the first time I fcd this :P ). Usually when you have problems with HP, HPdrain should be considered first (because you also need to test with hard rock, there are sections where your hp is below half if you aren't full 300ing the map, but that's not a problem at all though). I understand your reasoning, but I am telling you that I can't let that go because AR9 and OD7 is not acceptable for a map of this difficulty caliber (which doesn't have anything super gimmicky like insanely high physical requirements to be able to hit notes, such as extreme spacing and speed everywhere, or streamstreamstream everywhere; because even on hard rock the spinner is doable for an average person, meaning, people who can actually play this map will have no problems finishing the spinner). I am pretty sure many other BATs will agree with me on this one, so feel free to ask around if you want to check.

02:35:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I suggest to lower the spacing in this whole combo a little, and then add a jump between the last note of it and the 1 from the next combo. The reason is, the pitch of the melody jumps there and I think it could be a nice touch to make it a little more interesting. I didn't't really get what you meant, so I just lowered the spacing a bit What I meant here is that the strings in the music (the main melody) changes pitch drastically between 6 and 1. That's usually a nice spot to create a jump if wanted, however I am fine with your way of doing it, I just suggested something that I think it could work better.
Also, the final kiai doesn't have normal hitsound set used for streams that follow the drums. Missed or intentional?

Well some of your combos don't really follow the logic you explained to me (for example: 03:01:795 (3,1) vs 03:03:461 (1,2), 02:47:461 (5,1) vs 02:50:461 (1,2) - where I agree with the first one in this pairing, because that's where the melody kicks in, 02:32:128 (1) - not main beat, etc, there are more but I don't want to nitpick nor force you to change them), but overall I don't think they are that wrong in general. Maybe the other BAT looking at this might tell you the same but we'll see.

Anyways, here's one more thing I want you to consider:

http://puu.sh/13w9t <- I suggest that you try this custom hitclap instead. I feel like it's closer to what's in the music than yours, and I just like it more.
See if you like it as well. :D

That's all, check these final things I posted and we'll see about getting some bubbles here!
edit: missed a line
Topic Starter
Saten

lolcubes wrote:

Also, the final kiai doesn't have normal hitsound set used for streams that follow the drums. Missed or intentional? intentional because it didn't really fit on those. Well I can delete that pointless timing section there

Well some of your combos don't really follow the logic you explained to me (for example: 03:01:795 (3,1) vs 03:03:461 (1,2), 02:47:461 (5,1) vs 02:50:461 (1,2) - where I agree with the first one in this pairing, because that's where the melody kicks in, 02:32:128 (1) - not main beat, etc, there are more but I don't want to nitpick nor force you to change them), but overall I don't think they are that wrong in general. Maybe the other BAT looking at this might tell you the same but we'll see. I agree the last one you mentioned, it's not on a main beat but sometimes I sacrifices things for appearance instead

Anyways, here's one more thing I want you to consider:

http://puu.sh/13w9t <- I suggest that you try this custom hitclap instead. I feel like it's closer to what's in the music than yours, and I just like it more.
See if you like it as well. :D I like the current one better, it have more.. power or bass or something like that

That's all, check these final things I posted and we'll see about getting some bubbles here!
edit: missed a line
Yeah I know Wahrheit means Truth, but I'll stick to the old one. Plus that will bug the thumbnail (Yes this will occur because I've encountered this several times)

there are a very very few maps that is impossible to pass with hardrock because of the drain. so I guess your right, but I still dislike the drain on it
Do you agree with having HP6 & OD8? because this will solve the spinner issue.
lolcubes
HP6 OD8 is fine. Also when changing diff names, you don't need to full submit, so I don't think the thumbnail will bug, but whatever.
I'll check this in a bit once more.
Topic Starter
Saten
the BG preview is set on [Saten] if I change that it'll either go to the taiko bg or nothing. These changes takes several days.
Changing it back will also take several days.
lolcubes
Everything checks out then.

Bubble #1!

Note to others: This map should have about +28 priority than it currently has, because it's a re-host of the mapset under different creator. It's also for the our old style approval and should be treated as such. Treat this as a ~+48 priority map please.
Nidert
Topic Starter
Saten
Thanks lolcubes :oops:

If I sounded mean or anything on my replies, I apologize

Nidert wrote:

Squibidip
Kokatsu
Looks like we're back in! :D
Suimya
gogo Saten >w<
grumd
Is it really hard to make easier diffs? Why don't you want to let newbies enjoy this song too?
Kokatsu

grumd wrote:

Is it really hard to make easier diffs? Why don't you want to let newbies enjoy this song too?
This map was pending and bubbled under old circumstances b4 the approvalchange took place, we were forced to re-upload it on Saten's account however. I guess all maps that fullfil this criteria were treated as this one - being ranked/approved by the old rules.
grumd
I have read the thread, thanks.
Still I think that you guys can make some more diffs and rank it.
And technically it was uploaded not so long time ago (let's forget about past uploads) so new rules can apply to this one too.
I'm not forcing anybody to do anything (yes you also can approve it), but just saying that you could better make a full mapset.

Ok anyway... This is bubbled so this conversation makes no sense. Good luck on approval.
Topic Starter
Saten
My decision still stays on this though.

Mapping new difficulties isn't the real problem here, it's what comes after.
This map could've been approved long before this new rule appeared if wmf could've been a bit faster on re-bubbling. I don't want to blame him though

I was forced to temp grave a map of mine to submit this. I was hoping that it would go much faster than this.
wmfchris
with previous mods applied we can rebubble this one, good luck on approval.

(bubble #2)
Kokatsu
\:D/

So close. :D
Loctav
It's so warm in here, isn't it?
Kokatsu
Gratz Saten <3
BrokenArrow
CONGRATZ! <3
Mikarunoel131_DELETED
Nice titel, Nice song, Nice beatmap x3 Conratz ^^
Zare
Yes! :D

Congratz Saten :3
Frostmourne
sexy <3
Topic Starter
Saten
Lol Loctav

Lots of love
GamerX4life
Congratz Saten and Kokatsu!
Nidert
Topic Starter
Saten

Nidert wrote:

Verdisphena
\:3/
Nakata_old_1
it's so cool o3o
Aqo
omg it finally got ranked!

big huge grats!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Ohrami
This is what happens when Satan makes a beatmap

Melophobia
congratz Saten! :D
10nya
grats~~~ ~'3')~
420Guy
One of the best Maps i've ever played!
Topic Starter
Saten
(●´ω`)
Re_Znseemm6
good map!! amazing song!! YOUSEI TEIKOKU
Tsukimi Luna
<3 saten as always :3
Mafiamaster

Saten wrote:

(●´ω`)
OnosakiHito
Congratulation :3
-zer0-_old
yeah!!! 8-)
choiys
이걸 더타로 하네ㅋㅋ진심 쿠키는 인간 초월한 거 같다.
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