lolcubes wrote:

Hello there!
Before we get to the mod, you should probably fix your thread title, as it gives an incorrect name of the mapset!

Ok lets go.

[General]

1. Timing: while the offsets and bpms are correct, your downbeat is not. Your first offset should be at 699.

[Insane]

1. 01:17:434 (7) - I'm usually not really nazi, but this is not positioned nicely, as it's a bit to the left too much. While playing I noticed this and just felt like I should point this out, since the whole map focuses on pleasing visual appearance. Are you sure that the note should be on the red line, instead of a tick before? Like this it's quite easy to get a 100 on it if you don't know the song.
2. 01:34:872 (1,2,3) - I don't like this because it ignores the vocals. The slider ends are trying to be silenced too which is unrankable nowadays. ;_; If you shorten them by 1/4 and remove the 5% timing sections I believe it actually sounds better than the gimmick you're trying to do here too, because there are active vocals at that spot and it feels weird not mapping that.
3. 01:38:622 (1,2,3) - ^
4. 02:32:528 (1) - Have you tried using the default soft finish for this note? I think it would be more dynamic than what you have here and possibly sound better too. Just a suggestion. no
5. 02:34:872 (1,2,3) - These actually fit quite nice, however you should raise the volume of the slider ends a bit so they are nicely audible. Those faint soft hitnormals don't destroy the feeling at all if you ask me.
6. 02:36:747 (1,2,3) - ^

[S h i a]

1. Rename to S h i a's Hard please, since you have [Insane]. Usually diffs with special names are the highest difficulty ones (also because the star ratings can bug), and this one clearly isn't harder than [Insane]. no
2. OD+1 please, OD5 is a bit too easy for a map like this so use OD6.
3. 02:34:403 (3) - Should probably fix this blanket a bit, so it doesn't look that off. Apologies for the nazi. (didn't really notice other ones that were slightly off, but I did notice this one)
4. 02:55:028 (5,6,1) - You should fix this spacing. Increase the spacing between 6 and 1, because the music is the same here as it was where 5-6 created a small jump.
5. 03:17:550 (4,1) - This spacing really needs fixing. I sliderbroke here actually cause I clicked too early. Increase it please.

[Easy]

1. Check how you placed your finishes at the start of the map. Because you got your downbeat wrong, you used finishes on wrong places too. Same goes for the comboing.
2. 00:31:899 (5) - Why did you use a normal single repeater here, when you used sliders like 00:27:099 (1) before? This is what is problematic in easier diffs. If you want to use objects that are borderline hard for a difficulty (in this case Easy), then you should be using it where it's appropriate, because like this it only tells me that you could replace all your shorter sliders like 00:22:299 (1), 00:27:099 (1) with a slider like this one (00:31:899 (5)). In any case, I think you should do just that because that's more appropriate for an easy diff. Not to mention you have really short single repeaters later on too, and those could be mistaken for "hold" sliders you have here. Please just use normal longer single repeater for the short multirepeaters at the beginning.
3. 01:42:372 (1,2,3) - ^ you are doing absolutely the same thing here.
4. 02:32:997 - 02:47:528 - In this whole section you were using finishes on the last small white tick and that sounds wrong cause it's offbeat. You should place them correctly on the downbeats.
5. 02:34:872 (3,4,5) - Why did you choose to stack these? I think you can just place them normally, especially because you ran out of space here because you started the previous sliders so low. If you fix their position you can easily change the position of these circles.
6. 03:17:059 (3) - I actually recommend to remove it completely and just use a circle with a small drain section for several reasons: first, new people can't read bpm changes as drastic as this one, and this would help them to just hear the music. Second, the slider ticks sound AWFUL, especially the second one. I can see you tried to silence it (didn't do well enough since you used 30%) and it just messes up the slowdown completely.

And that's it!
I was a bit sad that you ignored the 1/6 in your insane at the end of the map and that you mapped a bit too many 1/2 for my taste, but don't get me wrong, Insane is pretty nice and well made, I enjoyed it. Same goes with S h i a's diff, it was pretty great.
The real problems lie in the lower diffs, especially in kiiwa's, that difficulty just has a too hard of a design to fit the normal difficulty criteria. You can change all those ambigous things (plus more which I didn't even mention because I stopped pointing out everything so I don't write a really huge mod post, when the easier fix is to map a proper normal diff and convert this to hard) or you can make a new normal diff. As for the easy, you mostly just mapped the metronome and the pretty cool things (those short multirepeaters) aren't really suited for an easy diff. They are cool, like I said before, but it would be best if you include them in a normal, not below.

lolcubes wrote:

[Easy]
*AR+1, OD+1. fixed
*At the start of your beatmap, your finish hitsound is still in the wrong place. Use it on the big white tick instead. Use claps on the last small white tick instead.
*03:18:939 (1) - Remove new combo, looks like it's an extra.
*03:20:721 (3) - New combo for consistency? You used a new combo every measure in this section.

[Kiiwa]
*HPD+1, AR+2, OD+2 since that works better and I will map you a normal difficulty because this one is too hard.
*01:17:052 (6,1) - This would be better if they were a slider, because this bpm change could be hard to read. Only a suggestion. sry no

[Insane]
*01:31:122 (1,2,3) - You still have 5% volume here, raise it a little like you did everywhere else.

This should be all. Give me a couple of hours, maybe a day and I will make a proper normal difficulty for you. I still suggest that you rename S h i a's and Kiiwa's diffs to S h i a's Hard and Kiiwa's Hard because it can only cause confusion like they are currently.
I will get back to you shortly.

lolcubes wrote:

http://puu.sh/R7nV

Here you go. I finished my diff. Unpack the diff and the hitsound into the folder, you need a full submit for this. Don't forget to add lolcubes in the tags of all difficulties as well.

Hope you like it. It's easy enough for a standard normal. I will try to get in touch with some people to mod this.

lovhin456 wrote:

As stated by Shadow there are some missing skin files, these are: sliderpoint10, sliderpoint30 and sliderscorepoint. Please add them to complete the slider set.
NO KDS

ts8zs wrote:

可是最近rank的也有只有一个太鼓的啊

Beren wrote:

ts8zs wrote:

可是最近rank的也有只有一个太鼓的啊

为什么一定要让我加太鼓? 我不想加

1. Skin :
   
   1. default-1.png is not alignment y-axis correct it would look better if you do something on this number png
2. Timing :
   
   1. 03:17:550 - About this Red Timing Section , I think use 89.5 instead of 90 sounds better , because the gap is very small so it does not matter if you don't change
3. Song Setup:
   
   1. I try to search this song on google , Title is right , but the artist that I got is Kaito & Meiko , maybe you can check them again
   2. Add "A Pair of Wintry Winds" into tags? This song's English name :3
   3. We can't search the word which less than 3 words , I think you must change "S h i a" to "S_h_i_a"
   4. Maybe you can open letter box during breaks? sense the map which disable box because of SB or no breaks on the map , but this map don't has SB and has one break.

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:14:499 (2,1) - I suggest you swap New Combo here , to make sure the patterns consistent
   2. 00:34:899 (2,3,1) - Maybe you can make them more prettier? like this pattern
      
      Picture

      

      428,252,34899,1,0
      456,160,35499,2,0,B|460:120|444:76,1,80,8|4
      352,56,36699,6,0,B|316:116|256:68|216:128,1,160,4|8

   3. 00:46:899 (1,2) - Two notes for a pattern? It is not necessary imo
   4. 01:31:122 (4) - You miss a New Combo here , you know why I think
   5. 01:42:372 (1) - Remove New Combo like 01:34:872 (5) - and 01:38:622 (5) - or add New Combo on these two
   6. 01:57:372 (4) - Make it curve a bit looks better imo
   7. 02:04:403 (1) - Ya , Remove New Combo to make them consistent :3
   8. 03:19:533 (1,2) - Swap New Combo to make sure your New Combo on every long white ticks
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. Fine I think :3

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:03:699 (5,1) - Looks a bit ugly for me Maybe you can copy 00:04:899 (1) - and Ctrl+>or< twice and put them to other place?
      
      Pictures

      Before :
      After :
   2. 00:36:699 (5) - Add a New Combo here , like 00:27:099 (1) - and 00:31:899 (1) -
   3. 02:47:528 (1,2) - Looks not good for me , try to move slider 1 to x:320 y:184
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. 01:26:903 (2) - Yes , you miss a clap imo

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggetion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:14:199 (4,5) - Move these two circles forward 1/2 together and then can follow the music well :3
   2. 02:06:278 (5) - Ctrl+R? to make a better flow?
   3. 02:13:778 (6,1) - Slider 1 is not blanket slider 6's head well
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. 00:14:199 (4,5) - Custom Normal hitsounds is not fits the music at all here imo , use the current one here is enough
   2. 02:46:122 (1) - Same as above , it just

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:19:449 (2) - Delete this circle , I think follow the music is enough
   2. 00:33:849 (2) - Same as above
   3. 01:16:371 (3) - This slider's end isn't snap to the music , it should be 01:17:434 - , so you need to reduce a repeat , and then put a lonely circle 01:17:434 -
   4. 03:02:997 (1) - Your map style is very pretty , so I think you can make this slider prettier , like this :
      
      Picture

      
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. 01:29:715 (2) - Sounds empty here , so add a clap on this slider's head?
   2. 02:50:809 (6) - Add a whistle on this slider's head? sounds a bit quiet

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 01:57:840 (4) - Add New Combo here? the spacing become large
   2. This diff looks very good in my eyes :3
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. Fine~

bossandy wrote:

Hi 我覺得還是用英文比較好 因為基本上每個M/Bat都用英文 >_<
　　
[ General]
　

1. Skin :
   
   1. default-1.png is not alignment y-axis correct it would look better if you do something on this number png没问题
2. Timing :
   
   1. 03:17:550 - About this Red Timing Section , I think use 89.5 instead of 90 sounds better , because the gap is very small so it does not matter if you don't change^
3. Song Setup:
   
   1. I try to search this song on google , Title is right , but the artist that I got is Kaito & Meiko , maybe you can check them again Kaito & Meiko是V家 这是翻唱
   2. Add "A Pair of Wintry Winds" into tags? This song's English name :3 加了
   3. We can't search the word which less than 3 words , I think you must change "S h i a" to "S_h_i_a"
   4. Maybe you can open letter box during breaks? sense the map which disable box because of SB or no breaks on the map , but this map don't has SB and has one break. 有加shia啊 他ID就是S h i a/letterbox during breaks个人兴趣

　
[ Easy]
　

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:14:499 (2,1) - I suggest you swap New Combo here , to make sure the patterns consistent no
   2. 00:34:899 (2,3,1) - Maybe you can make them more prettier? like this pattern no
      
      Picture

      

      428,252,34899,1,0
      456,160,35499,2,0,B|460:120|444:76,1,80,8|4
      352,56,36699,6,0,B|316:116|256:68|216:128,1,160,4|8

   3. 00:46:899 (1,2) - Two notes for a pattern? It is not necessary imo ok
   4. 01:31:122 (4) - You miss a New Combo here , you know why I think ok
   5. 01:42:372 (1) - Remove New Combo like 01:34:872 (5) - and 01:38:622 (5) - or add New Combo on these two no
   6. 01:57:372 (4) - Make it curve a bit looks better imo no....
   7. 02:04:403 (1) - Ya , Remove New Combo to make them consistent :3 ok
   8. 03:19:533 (1,2) - Swap New Combo to make sure your New Combo on every long white ticks ok
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. Fine I think :3

　
[ lolcubes]
　

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:03:699 (5,1) - Looks a bit ugly for me Maybe you can copy 00:04:899 (1) - and Ctrl+>or< twice and put them to other place? ok
      
      Pictures

      Before :
      After :
   2. 00:36:699 (5) - Add a New Combo here , like 00:27:099 (1) - and 00:31:899 (1) - ok
   3. 02:47:528 (1,2) - Looks not good for me , try to move slider 1 to x:320 y:184 no
   
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. 01:26:903 (2) - Yes , you miss a clap imo ok

　
[ Kiiwa]
　

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggetion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:14:199 (4,5) - Move these two circles forward 1/2 together and then can follow the music well :3 no change
   2. 02:06:278 (5) - Ctrl+R? to make a better flow? no
   3. 02:13:778 (6,1) - Slider 1 is not blanket slider 6's head well fixed
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. 00:14:199 (4,5) - Custom Normal hitsounds is not fits the music at all here imo , use the current one here is enough
   2. 02:46:122 (1) - Same as above , it just no

　
[ S h i a]
　

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 00:19:449 (2) - Delete this circle , I think follow the music is enough no
   2. 00:33:849 (2) - Same as above no
   3. 01:16:371 (3) - This slider's end isn't snap to the music , it should be 01:17:434 - , so you need to reduce a repeat , and then put a lonely circle 01:17:434 - :/ i think its ok
   4. 03:02:997 (1) - Your map style is very pretty , so I think you can make this slider prettier , like this : ok
      
      Picture

      
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. 01:29:715 (2) - Sounds empty here , so add a clap on this slider's head? ok
   2. 02:50:809 (6) - Add a whistle on this slider's head? sounds a bit quiet ok

　
[ Insane]

1. Unrankable stuff
   ( You must fix all of these , if I write something is not unrankable , please tell me in the reply )
   
   1. None!
   　
2. Beatmap design/Suggestion
   ( Most of them are my suggestion , you can disagree if you want )
   
   1. 01:57:840 (4) - Add New Combo here? the spacing become large no
   2. This diff looks very good in my eyes :3
   　
3. Hitsounds
   ( Almost of them are my ideas , you can ignore them )
   
   1. Fine~

　
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That's all from me , almost of them are my suggestions
Sorry for my long mod , I want to improve this map because it is awesome!!!
Good Luck :3

Chewin wrote:

Hi Beren :3
I'll skip 2 diffs like I told you via MP to follow my old rules :3

[General]

You must add a red line with offset 77434 with a BPM of 88,000, like the other diffs. added
Rename Kiiwa, Shia and lolcubes' diffs in "lolcubes' Normal" "Kiiwa's Hard" and "S h i a's Hard"no...

[lolcubes]

00:06:399 (3) - I suggest you to move this circle to x:88 y:232 or using a grid level 4 to x:172 y:204 to make a good pattern with a consistant spacing ok
03:17:059 (5) - Snap manually this slider's end ok
It's awesome lolcubes, great job

[S h i a]

Consider to snap these green lines: http://puu.sh/11v7O fixed
00:12:999 (4) - Remove clap to keep a consistant hitsound pattern ok
00:52:899 (4) - I'd remove one repeat ok
00:54:999 (1) - You should start this spinner on 00:55:899 so that it fits the vocal and you could map the empty part with a 1/2 slider + repeat:
ok
01:17:997 (1) - To match that cymbals you could remove whistle adding a default normal finish with 30% volume ok
02:52:450 (2,1) - This could be pretty confusing.. consider to don't overlap them ok
03:27:849 (5) - New combo? btw same of 01:17:997 (1) ok

[Insane]

00:50:499 (1,2) - Select them and move to x:76 y:112 to have a better blanket between 00:49:899 (8,1) ok
I'm loving your mapping style with these particular sliders O: <3

That's it

bossandy wrote:

[*]00:36:699 (5) - Add a New Combo here , like 00:27:099 (1) - and 00:31:899 (1) -

Sonnyc wrote:

Hi, sorry for the delay.. Modding only lolcube's by requests

lolcubes

00:35:499 (3) - 1 Grid Right No thanks. It looks worse, it's intention was to go directly from previous to the next object in a line.
00:51:099 (6) - Consider a reversed form of 00:49:899 (4)? No thanks. It's current form is because of the vocals.
01:30:418 (3,4) - 1 Grid Right Personally, I don't think this is really necessary but ok. Damn you Grid3. <-<

Garven wrote:

Bubbled. The unsnapped slider in lolcubes' diff is fine.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Easy]
00:00:099 - 00:36:699 - 36 seconds of repeating the exact same rhythm is very monotonous. Please either add a few notes on red ticks (hint: you can do this on sliders and its still easy for beginners) or remove a few notes from the white ticks
01:17:997 - 02:17:059 - again, 60 seconds with no variation on the rhythm what-so-ever. The hitsounds help a little bit but your map definitely still feels like it lacks imagination and variety

[lolcubes]
you might want to set the tick rate to 2 for the sake of your 1.5 beat sliders

[Kiiwa]
00:59:499 - feels like there should be a note here
02:01:356 (3) - reduce the overlap at the end here, its difficult to read atm

[Shia]
03:26:364 (7) - move this slider so that it is more visible, over half of it is hidden underneath the previous slider

[Insane]
00:39:699 (2) - this is difficult to read since it's not only under the previous slider but also under its hitburst

popped for now, call me back when you need a recheck

1. reversearrow.png this is not really fit your skin theme, can you make something with sakurabana?
2. トゥライ (Tolie) is an alias (in singing) of RyuuseiP/minato, a Vocaloid producer who was famous for both his works (some well-known songs are "Spice!", magnet, etc.) and his try-to-sing Vocaloid songs (but most of them are not his own songs, except for "Spice!" and "Soar" which were sung in an event and "magnet" which has been uploaded recently). He also used to form a duo with Usa under the name 憂辛(Usatsurai).

1. reduce or redo your claps in this diff, they're much too frequently used and make me give up in test-play. in most time, set it on 4th white ticks. some can be 2nd white tick but with lower volume.

1. same clap things with Insane
2. 03:17:059 (3,1) - keep the spacing
3. 03:36:490 (1) - let the end be default soft

1. claps mentioned in Insane
2. 00:37:899 (1,2,3) - really breaking the theme

1. 00:17:499 (1) - make this a slider end at 00:17:799 and add note at 00:17:949?
2. 00:55:899 (4) - lol good mix with sliderticks
3. 02:20:106 - 1 more note with whistle? or change 02:19:872 (3) to a slider
4. 02:29:247 (1) - finish only and 40% volume
5. 360,112,197059,2,0,B|416:192|364:280,1,175.488,4|4 <-- fix the last slider's length
6. surprised by the last part, a little pity there is not something strong like custom whitle to lead the rhythm

1. clap things said in Insane

Colin Hou wrote:

[lolcubes]

1. 00:17:499 (1) - make this a slider end at 00:17:799 and add note at 00:17:949? Nah, this would complicate things a little bit. Blue ticks in normal, I'd prefer not to.
2. 00:55:899 (4) - lol good mix with sliderticks
3. 02:20:106 - 1 more note with whistle? or change 02:19:872 (3) to a slider Sure, no whistle though.
4. 02:29:247 (1) - finish only and 40% volume 50% sounds fine too, removed the whistle as well.
5. 360,112,197059,2,0,B|416:192|364:280,1,175.488,4|4 <-- fix the last slider's length Alright.
6. surprised by the last part, a little pity there is not something strong like custom whitle to lead the rhythm Yeah I know, well it doesn't really sound that bad, right? I just wanted a change so it doesn't sound monotonous. :p

Armin wrote:

00:02:499 (2) - 00:15:099 (1) - 00:40:299 (3) - 00:44:799 (3) - 02:52:684 (2) - 03:15:184 (2) - 03:24:285 (2) - I'm sure these types of sliders are easily readible and I think they don't look "too ugly and borderline rankable", so no changes.
02:20:809 (3) - boom Changed
02:46:122 (1)- boom http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/438189 (maybe readjust its beginning to make it more intuitive) Changed
00:00:099 (1,1) - overlap their ends well Changed
03:10:028 (5,1) - sliders like these are just meh; I guess you can improve that overlap http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/438243 <_< Changed

Armin wrote:

On shia's diff I feel this repeat really late 01:36:747 (3) - sorry no change

Garven wrote:

Good work, guys!

Ranked!