kajiyatta wrote:

hi tennya~:3 from #PM Domoo ^w^~
General
almost suggestions
Easy
Placement
01:04:229(4) I think this stacking is a litte hard for newbie. so using Distant snap is better.
01:19:229(3) Ctrl+J?
Rythem
01:15:479(1) this spinner is too short for Easy. so this end would be set 01:16:885
thanks all done ^w^/

Normal
Placement
00:07:041(3) 2 grid up?
00:34:229(1,2,3) try this placement?

SPOILER

00:52:441(5) 1 grid up?
Rythem
01:44:072(6,7,1) try this rythem?

SPOILER

Hit Sonud
00:53:916(2) add clap at the end of slider?
done :3


Hard
Placement
00:06:338(6) x:352 y:16?
00:06:572(7) x:240 y:16?
01:06:572(1,4) a bit tilt is better I think

SPOILER

Hit Sonud
01:39:854(1) add finish at the beginning of the slider?
ok all done ^q^


good SB and Wonderful mapset. good luck with Rank and star~☆~

1. gw kira ini pake .osb wwww~ ok gw lanjut (all my SB mod are pointed to notepad)

2. Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\White.png",320,240
    F,0,30479,31416,1,0
   Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\White.png",320,240
    F,0,15479,16416,1,0
    M,0,16365,,320,241
   Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\White.png",320,240
    M,0,92354,,320,240
    F,0,92354,93921,1,0

   itu white.png jadi kebanyakan tuh.. coba ini deh

   Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\White.png",320,240
    F,0,30479,31416,1,0
    F,0,15479,16416,1,0
    F,0,92354,93921,1,0

3. Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\black.png",320,240
    M,0,0,13369,320,240,320,241
    F,0,0,15010,1,0

   ini kode yang nambah berat osu buat aku, soalnya km bisa buat si BG itu sendiri mulai dari item kaya gini

   Sprite,0,Centre,"kkk.png",320,240
    S,0,0,,0.8
    F,0,0,15010,0,1
    F,0,75479,77354,1,0
    F,0,107354,107822,0,1
    F,0,111226,,1

4. Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\black.png",320,240
    F,0,75479,77354,0,0.8
    F,0,77354,77822,0.8

   ini sebenernya sih kode jadi ngeganggu buat gw pas di yang 01:17:354, soalnya itu kan dah ada second BG yang nimpa black.png, saran aku sih line ke-2 dihapus, (sama gw pasang code yang fungsinya sama kaya black.png di si backgroundnya jadi hapus aja semua black.png)

5. Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\lll.png",320,240
    S,0,77354,77588,1,1.1152
    F,0,77354,77822,0,1
    S,0,77588,77822,1.1152,0.9999999
    F,0,77822,107354,1
    F,0,107354,107822,1,0

   itu scaling ke 0.9999 ? sayang lol buletin aja ke 1 (ga penting tapi buang2 beberapa byte )
6. paling segitu doang sih~ ^^ GL

1. sayang gw kira ini bakal full versionnya,
2. tag "Sumijun" as the arranger of the song. http://puu.sh/OKdD
3. reverse-arrow yang mirip osu!stream ye <3
4. circle skinnya kok lebih kecil dari circle yang default? ini jadi aneh lo, pantes kok di timeline ada yang aneh... kalo bisa ini di resize.

- t e n n y a - wrote:

Rei's mod, not quoting it cus its too long lol XD
Knapa videonya private :cry::cry: gw perasaan unlisted bukan private orz... checking ok, gw ganti ke unlisted~
ok 98% saia ganti sesuai mod anda :3

hoshinya makasih TwT
Mod saia menyusul ya /die (napaaa yuyukoooo >.< *blushes*)

Waiting for Laurier's update hmmm for tags and SBs you can change it after Laurier send the update =w=

wmfchris wrote:

Taiko mod as requested

- HP7 would be quite high for the song. HP5/6 would be enough. HP to 6 done
- Make the first section a bit more audiable, N50% or 60% works. volume to 50 done~

00:15:010 - Change to k so that the beating (k k) still works like before even the music itself doesn't do so? done :3
00:43:604 - corresponding to the higher pitch end with k here? and then start spinner 1/2 after the note ok

I don't find much problems with the taiko diffs since you're following the drums straightly, so good job here.

Rei_Fan49 wrote:

- t e n n y a - wrote:

Rei's mod, not quoting it cus its too long lol XD
Knapa videonya private :cry::cry: gw perasaan unlisted bukan private orz... checking ok, gw ganti ke unlisted~
ok 98% saia ganti sesuai mod anda :3

hoshinya makasih TwT
Mod saia menyusul ya /die (napaaa yuyukoooo >.< *blushes*)

Waiting for Laurier's update hmmm for tags and SBs you can change it after Laurier send the update =w=

hibarirailwayz wrote:

from modding queues~
There are my opinions, so you need not follow.
[General]
clear!

[Easy]
01:14:541 (3) - move x=432(It's same x cordinate of 01:13:604 (1) - . This is for visual)
01:29:541 (2) - move x=276 y=100 for visual and It's easier for beginner to AIM.
01:45:713 (1) - I like Start=01:45:596 - all done

[Normal]
Clear! yay~

[Hard]
01:24:854 (2) - This slider is unvisual... Please put midpoint more beautifully. done :3

[Taiko]
00:33:291 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - ddk k d(from clap sound)
00:47:119 (2) - add NC
00:44:775 (1) - NC color is not correct. I suggest 4 kind of color(red,blue,red,blue) and after spinner's NC reset blue.

SPOILER

00:49:463 (1,1,1) - kkd(from drum sound)
01:39:619 (1) - k(voice is not low) all done ^o^

Good luck!!

Laurier wrote:

http://puu.sh/Q3Nh
thanks !!

shojimeguro wrote:

Easy
try to use distance snap to rearrange ur beats
00:43:604 - put spinner here done :3

Normal
00:04:229 - missing note
00:09:818 - this too
00:11:729 - same here
00:13:604 - and here
00:42:165 - here too
01:00:010 - this ==
^no change since I want the normal diff have a time to rest~
Hard&Insane
i'm suprised that it's perfect!

that's all i can say
good luck and i'm sure ur beatmap will be ranked for sure! thanks and I hope so too

1. kkk.png should be .jpg, less file size \:3/ (Taiko.png too)

1. 00:03:291 (4) - This should be like 00:07:041 (3) -
2. 00:15:010 - clap o.o?
3. 00:20:635 (3) - A little bit weird imo .-. try this? http://puu.sh/QGV2
4. 01:14:072 (2) - Spacing

1. 00:15:010 - clap?
2. 00:47:822 (3) - You should add clap at begin and end, then remove the clap at reserve.
3. 01:43:135 (5) - nc?

1. 00:15:479 (1) - Clap (end)
2. 00:29:072 (5,3,4) - clap? (nazi)

Flask wrote:

Hi :3! Request From CLANNAD Mod queue

[General]

1. kkk.png should be .jpg, less file size \:3/ (Taiko.png too)

[Easy]

1. 00:03:291 (4) - This should be like 00:07:041 (3) - donee
2. 00:15:010 - clap o.o? done :3
3. 00:20:635 (3) - A little bit weird imo .-. try this? http://puu.sh/QGV2 ok~~
4. 01:14:072 (2) - Spacing

changed into breakk~

[Normal]

1. 00:15:010 - clap? done
2. 00:47:822 (3) - You should add clap at begin and end, then remove the clap at reserve. donee
3. 01:43:135 (5) - nc?

donee

[Hard]
fine. yay~


Good job :3
GL~~

Elly-chan wrote:

omh i mapped this too \:DDD/ HOTARU IS THE BEST SINGER FOR HALOZY EVER

edit: you and me should both get our versions ranked together~ c: I'll ungrave mine.

jaehn215 wrote:

M4M~

Hard

00:10:322 (7) - 00:10:322 (7) > 00:10:322 (7,8) (7=slider, 8=circle) sorry no T w T
00:14:072 (1) - remove new combo done!


Good!!!

HanzeR wrote:

Wow!! Tiny mod, only because your map is great and I can tell you put alot of effort into it

[Hard]
00:01:885 (2) - this spacing is hugeee! maybe try this? http://puu.sh/R1Aj nope I want jump at here D:
00:43:604 - I would remove this note, and start the spinner here instead. It fits the music better that way imo. done~

[Normal]
00:53:916 (2) - move the endpoint to x48 y 52 done~

[Easy]
01:43:135 (1) - This shape is ugly i think changed~

Very well done, good luck in rankings!!

1. Folder: delete .osb file, then fullsubmit~ seems not necessary since you put all script in your .osu
2. Combo colour: blue colour in here is blind with bg imo o3o change into more light or other colour?
3. SB: replace all script with this? I just reduce some script orz-- not change anything :3
   
   SPOILER

   [Events]
   //Background and Video events
   0,0,"kkk.png"
   //Break Periods
   2,30678,42044
   2,74741,75794
   //Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
   Sprite,Background,Centre,"littlesb\lll.png",320,240
    S,0,77354,77588,1,1.1152
    F,0,77354,77822,0,1
    S,0,77588,77822,1.1152,0.9999999
    F,0,77822,107354,1
    F,0,107354,107822,1,0
   //Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
   //Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
   //Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
   Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\White.png",320,240
    F,0,15479,16416,1,0
    M,0,16365,,320,241
    F,0,30479,31416,1,0
    M,0,92354,,320,240
    F,0,92354,93921,1,0
   Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\pulse.png",320,240
    F,0,15479,16416,0.4,0
    S,0,15479,16416,1,1.2
    F,0,30479,31416,0.4,0
    S,0,30479,31416,1,1.2
   Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\lll.png",320,240
    F,0,92354,93921,0.4,0
    S,0,92354,93921,1,1.2
   Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\black.png",320,240
    F,0,-927,0,0,1
    M,0,0,13369,320,240,320,241
    F,0,0,15010,1,0
    F,0,75010,75479,0
    F,0,75479,77354,0,0.8
    F,0,77354,77822,0.8,0
   Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\thankyou.png",320,240
    F,0,107354,108760,0,1
    MY,0,107354,111104,400,250
    F,0,108760,110635,1
    F,0,110635,111104,1,0
   Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"littlesb\buble.png",320,240
    M,0,77354,79229,465,458,442,37
    F,0,77354,79229,1
    F,0,77588,79463,1
    M,0,77588,79697,88,456,94,154
    S,0,78525,,1.4352
    M,0,78525,80869,280,460,231,27
    F,0,78525,80869,1
    M,0,78760,81572,236,449,248,32
    F,0,78760,81572,1
    F,0,79463,79697,1,0.01440002
    S,0,80166,,1.1792
    M,0,80166,82979,526,442,364,37
    F,0,80166,82979,1
    S,0,82041,,1.1408
    M,0,82041,85791,284,451,395,32
    F,0,82041,85791,1
    M,0,82275,85322,204,449,227,37
    F,0,82275,85322,1
    M,0,82979,88604,247,449,364,27
    F,0,82979,88604,1
    S,0,84150,,1.4608
    M,0,84150,90479,465,451,459,26
    F,0,84150,90479,1
    M,0,85322,88604,311,448,309,28
    F,0,85322,88604,1
    M,0,86963,90010,232,452,316,27
    F,0,86963,90010,1
    M,0,89072,92822,165,447,142,24
    F,0,89072,92822,1
    M,0,90010,93291,69,447,152,23
    F,0,90010,93291,1
    M,0,91416,94229,284,446,298,37
    F,0,91416,94229,1
    M,0,91885,94697,394,453,390,28
    F,0,91885,94697,1
    S,0,93760,,1.2944
    M,0,93760,97979,198,464,165,17
    F,0,93760,97979,1
    M,0,96104,100791,476,448,446,27
    F,0,96104,100791,1
    M,0,98213,101260,337,453,289,31
    F,0,98213,101260,1
    S,0,98447,,1.3328
    M,0,98447,105947,303,470,293,9
    F,0,98447,105947,1
    M,0,98682,103604,177,439,140,33
    F,0,98682,103604,1
    M,0,100557,103604,384,446,380,31
    F,0,100557,103604,1
    M,0,102900,107354,195,449,193,35
    F,0,102900,107354,1
    M,0,104307,106885,268,449,418,32
    F,0,104307,106885,1
   //Storyboard Sound Samples
   //Background Colour Transformations
   3,100,163,162,255

1. 00:05:635 (2) - move this 1 grid left for make symmetry with (1)? don't forget to fix spacing for the next note
2. 00:19:229 (1,2,3,4) - I guess, if you following the vocal or instrumental (both is ok orz whatever), the rhythm more better if like this. the current rhythm seems not really fit orz-- beside that, for easy I'm not recommended circle stack in top slider 8'')
3. 00:26:729 (1) - want to fix this slider a bit? move 2nd point 1 grid up and right, then move 3rd point 1 grid up too~
4. 00:26:729 (1,2,3,4) - well, in here in slider (2) and (3) was really strange-- the long slider should in long white tick for following long vocal and before should one circle-- yap, my english is bad, try this instead lol
5. 00:43:604 (1) - this spinner too fast for the next note. for easy try to not make spinner too near with an note-- so newbie player can catch easier :''D my suggestion is like this rhythm. add finish sound in spinner-
6. 00:52:510 (3) - don't put this stack with (4) D''8
7. 00:58:604 (4) - this slider-- do you want do something like this?
   

   336,268,58604,2,0,B|288:320|228:256|184:312,1,160,0|2

8. 01:00:479 (1,2) - ... meow-- this pattern is a bit mess ;u; especially for slider (1) orz-- try this~?
   

   284,160,60479,6,0,B|244:180|196:160,1,80,4|0
   132,212,61416,2,0,B|184:268|288:268|352:212,1,240

9. 01:07:979 (1) - sorry nazi again-- try to move 2nd point into x:160 y:208? you will know the result~ imo this way is more symmetry
10. 01:31:885 (5) - would be better if add new combo in here and remove in the next note. you know the kiai part is epic if add new combo 8''D
11. 01:35:635 (4) - add new combo in here, the rhythm changed in here--
12. 01:37:041 (1) - from reason above, this combo should removed
13. 01:45:596 (1) - in blue tick too suddenly for easy-- try to move it into next red tick. more easier~
14. For hitsound, try to make consistent again... i don't want mention this because too much inconsistent orz-- don't hate me D''8

1. Difficulty Setting: Increase AR +1? normal diff usually using ar 4 =w=
2. 00:03:760 (6) - error spacing orz
3. 00:04:229 - add an note in here? seems not good without an note in here-- since this is downbeat imo. also, about guitar sound too.. add in some spot too: 00:09:854 00:11:729 00:13:604
4. 00:16:885 (3) - I know this is already have consistent spacing, but during gameplay this is touching slider (2), so I suggest move this 1 grid down~
5. 00:20:166 (2) - add clap in the reverse for consistent hitsounding
6. 00:31:416 (2) - move this 1 grid left for make moar symmetry with (1)~
7. 00:31:416 (2) - ngg- spacing? i guess that error- check with ds
8. 00:45:479 (1) - add finish in slider's beginning for cymbal sounder~
9. 01:06:572 (4) - don't add a huge jump in normal diff, use same spacing >A<
10. 01:21:104 (1) - would be better if remove this new combo, then add one in the next note-- because this circle in different pattern with the next
11. 01:27:197 (6) - add new combo in here, then remove in 01:28:604 (1) - for make same combo set with before~
12. 01:45:479 (1) - why not add note in here and move spinner into next red tick like you did in easy diff?
13. some spacing are inconsistent, i hope you can self-check with ds 8'''D in here hitsound already good, but still can be more improve~

1. Difficulty Setting: would be better if increase od +1, hp -1
2. 00:05:166 (3) - delete this note? seems the rhythm same with 00:00:479 (1,2,3) -
3. 00:13:838 - add an note in here-- seems too empty in here orz
4. 00:14:541 (1,1) - humm, not really symmetry in here-- try this one maybe?
   

   332,176,14541,6,0,B|280:208|280:292|332:328,1,168.750006437302
   436,320,15479,6,0,B|476:288|476:212|428:184,1,150,4|8

5. 00:24:854 (1) - this too orz try this code for more symmetry~
   

   72,24854,6,0,B|376:88|408:52|408:52|436:88|476:72,2,150,0|8|0

6. 00:27:666 (1) - I guess this new combo is unecessary orz.. remove it?
7. 00:45:479 (1) - honestly, this slider not comfortable to click when gameplay-- I don't think this is need end at blue tick (no really following the vocal or music bg) in red tick is more better imo. this is applied for other same sliders too-
8. 01:12:080 (2,3) - spacing---?

1. 00:14:775 - increase the volume into 40% ~ 50%? too low when I hear during gameplay ><
2. 00:30:244 (4) - uhh too hard for me to see this after stack with streams ;A; I guess more better if move this circle into (1)'s head~
3. 00:43:838 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - don't stack ;3; this is really hard to read ugu-- please..
4. 00:52:979 (1) - I think finish sound too suddenly in here. I suggest to change it into whistle~ more soft :''D
5. 00:58:604 (6) - ^
6. 00:59:541 (8) - I guess the sound similar with (6), so add whistle in beginning too?
7. 01:04:932 - I felt too empty in here-- maybe add an note?
8. 01:45:713 (1) - add finish
9. Good insane~

• ·Hi~mod for M4M -v- Sorry for my poor English
  ·Hitsounds before 00:15:479 - are bit loudly
  ·Why "-_t_e_n_n_y_a_-" is in the Tag ._.
  ·In skin of circle (hitcircle.png),the center of the circle and the center of the pic is not on the same point. You may move it 1 px right and 1 px up with Photoshop

• ·00:03:525 (6,7) - Too far
  ·00:09:854 - Add a circle?
  ·00:13:604 (2,3) - Too far
  ·00:24:385 - Add a circle
  ·00:42:666 (1) - Remove new combo?
  ·00:52:041 (5) - New combo
  ·00:52:979 (1) - Remove new combo
  ·01:05:166 (2) - This will be covered by "300" of 01:03:291 (4,5,6) -
  ·01:20:635 (4) - New combo
  ·01:21:572 (1) - Remove new combo
  ·01:35:635 (7) - New combo
  ·01:36:104 (1) - Remove new combo
  ·01:39:385 (4) - New combo
  ·01:39:854 (1) - Remove new combo

• ·AR-2
  ·00:15:479 (1) - Remove new combo
  ·00:41:729 (1) - Make a repeat and remove 00:42:432 (2) -
  ·00:49:697 (5,6) - Too far

• ·Sorry I don't know how to mod Taiko diff

• ·00:00:947 (3,6) - These notes aren't in a complete stack
  ·00:09:854 (1) - Remove clap
  ·00:11:729 (1,2,3) - This jump is confused
  ·00:22:275 (6,7,8) - This jump is confused
  ·00:42:080 (1) - Remove new combo
  ·00:43:838 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Oh too hard to read this, maybe unrankable
  ·00:57:432 (5,1) - This jump is confused
  ·01:16:416 (2) - New combo
  ·01:16:650 (3) - New combo
  ·01:35:166 (6,7,8,9) - Too close

SE_Soul wrote:

JUST SUGEST M4M

[General]
dont forget to ask the one who make that spin it was made by me D:
make the title with "short version"? ah I'm waiting for MAT/BAT's comment owo

[Normal]
00:03:291 same the spacing of circle done~
00:20:635 Clap of reserve slide? (slide yang berbaliknya yang panah itu kasih clap) done~

[Hard]
circle size large? no
approch rate 7? done
00:01:650 to far of spacing? no~

[Insane]
NOTHING

Foxxu wrote:

Awesome beatmap! I would really like it if it was approved =D

Matoryoshika wrote:

how could this map is still not bubbled yet
let's make it 70 lol

Leorda wrote:

Pie Kabare? lol baik~ koe?
A little information that Hotaru left Halozy...... WHATTTT OAO;;;

wantuole wrote:

00:22:041 (4) - I think use "ctrl+H" with 00:21:572 (3) is butter? isn't it? changed :3
01:44:072 (4) - song is last up sound,why use a down slider,a little large jump is butter well changed owo
[hard]
00:21:104 (6,7) - no good for looking, but I don't have idea to fix this changed :3

Leorda wrote:

Pie Kabare?

[Insane]
00:09:385 (5,6) - Stacking like this can confuse players while gameplay because sometimes it covered by hitbursts or something, you should unstack them to make it readable think it's ok. because this is Insane dff
00:18:057 (4,1) - ^ ^
00:43:838 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Don't make a pattern like this. It really covered by hitbursts and it's hard to read and follow the pattern for players. Consider to re-arrange the pattern for this part umm...I like this pattern and fit the song.

> tennya. If you dislike that pattern, I'll makes another pattern. this is your map. you can tell me bad thing.


A little information that Hotaru left Halozy......

Laurier wrote:

> tennya. If you dislike that pattern, I'll makes another pattern. this is your map. you can tell me bad thing.


thanks Leo ^-^
http://puu.sh/16SGC

1. Looks fine

1. I think "Lunatic" is better than "Insane"
   and add "Laurier's"
2. 01:00:713 - add note
   01:01:416 (4,5,6) - こことリズムが同じなので、特に理由がないようでしたらリズムを同じにしてみてはいかがでしょうか？
3. 01:42:197 (3) - 01:44:072 (3) - 細かいですがここのスタックのずれが気になりました

1. DR-1
2. 01:01:650 - add note
3. 00:49:932 (6) - move to x:398 y:128 (Distance 1.50)
4. 00:52:979 (1) - ^ x:463 y:256 (Distance 1.40)
5. 01:01:650 (4) - stack on 01:01:768 (5) -
   if you accept this suggestion, 01:01:182 (3) - move to x:344 y:172 (Distance 1.50)
6. 01:16:650 (4,5,6) - stack is better...? i think not so good this distance
7. 01:46:182 - add note or 01:45:947 (4) - change to 1/2 slider
   
   [Normal]
   1. OD+1
   2. 01:25:791 (2) - move to x:29 y:187 (Distance 0.80)
   3. 01:26:260 (3) - ^ x:105 y:129 (^)
   4. 01:26:494 (4) - ^ x:145 y:104 (^)
   5. 01:41:260 (4) - ~01:45:010 (3) - how about this?
      

      436,200,101260,1,8
      436,200,101494,1,0
      436,200,101729,2,0,B|388:176|340:200|340:200|188:200,1,240,0|0
      104,200,103135,6,0,B|40:200,2,60,8|0|0
      200,200,104072,2,0,B|320:200,1,120,8|0
      416,200,105010,1,8

      
      that's all
      good luck

Wreath wrote:

from my queue
hi, - t e n n y a - and Laurier
thx for request and sorry for late... hellooo :3

[General]

1. Looks fine

[Insane]

1. I think "Lunatic" is better than "Insane"
   and add "Laurier's" I do agree with this >w<

[Hard]

1. DR-1
2. 01:01:650 - add note
3. 00:49:932 (6) - move to x:398 y:128 (Distance 1.50)
4. 00:52:979 (1) - ^ x:463 y:256 (Distance 1.40)
5. 01:01:650 (4) - stack on 01:01:768 (5) -
   if you accept this suggestion, 01:01:182 (3) - move to x:344 y:172 (Distance 1.50)
6. 01:16:650 (4,5,6) - stack is better...? i think not so good this distance
7. 01:46:182 - add note or 01:45:947 (4) - change to 1/2 slider
   all done :3
   
   [Normal]
   1. OD+1
   2. 01:25:791 (2) - move to x:29 y:187 (Distance 0.80)
   3. 01:26:260 (3) - ^ x:105 y:129 (^)
   4. 01:26:494 (4) - ^ x:145 y:104 (^)
   5. 01:41:260 (4) - ~01:45:010 (3) - how about this?
      

      436,200,101260,1,8
      436,200,101494,1,0
      436,200,101729,2,0,B|388:176|340:200|340:200|188:200,1,240,0|0
      104,200,103135,6,0,B|40:200,2,60,8|0|0
      200,200,104072,2,0,B|320:200,1,120,8|0
      416,200,105010,1,8

      great I can't read codes / understand them T,T but done for above statement :3
      that's all
      good luck

1. Rename the insane in "Laurier's Insane"?

1. 00:01:899 (3,4,5,6) - What about to edit this patter in this way? It'd be more flowing but especially easier and more enjoyable to play for beginners. You could blanket the slider (3) with (2) after which to place these elements: 00:02:836 (4,5,6) making a triangle and deleting the actual (6) circle because in my opinion it's totally overmapped for the easiest diff. Even if you can hear a clap in the song you can anyways avoid to make a circle there.
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   
   
   

   172,112,12211,6,0,B|152:176|92:184|92:184|132:236|72:316,1,240,8|8

2. 00:12:211 (1) - You can see this slider is asymmetric in test mode. You could improve its shape using this code:
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   

   284,332,1899,2,0,B|252:276|280:208,1,120,8|0
   244,124,2836,1,8
   220,32,3305,1,0
   124,52,3774,2,0,B|120:112|60:156,1,120,8|0
   124,232,4711,6,8,B|156:292|308:292|340:228,1,240

3. 00:08:461 (2) - What an ugly slider here ç_ç I hate this type of slider's curve. Mh, this one would be much better IMO:
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   (I have also fixed the position of the next slider)
   

   256,212,8461,2,0,B|192:260|228:352|304:380|356:344,1,240,8|8
   356,156,10336,2,0,B|404:108|484:116,2,120,8|0|8

4. 00:18:305 (5,6) - We can try to make this diff easier. I'd delete the (6) circle moving the (5) to x:425 y:323 making a triangle: http://puu.sh/17sUU
   
5. 00:22:993 (1,3) - Was it your intention to use these 2 shapes? Mh.. These sliders would be much better without that red sliders' points.
6. 00:26:039 (4,5) - Maybe you already know xD Delete the (4) moving the actual (5) circle to x:376 y:300
7. 00:26:743 (1) - CTRL + left mouse click on the 2nd waypoint to make it a red point. It would be symmetric: http://puu.sh/17sWA
8. 00:27:680 (2) - You could center the 2nd slider point to make this slider more flowing with a more enjoyable curve to play: http://puu.sh/17sX0
9. 00:27:680 (2) - Still here. You should remove the clap from the slider's tail to keep consistency with the head. Or, at least, if you want to keep it you should add clap on the slider's head too, but I prefer you delete the clap from the tail.
10. 00:37:993 (1) - Make this slider symmetric and more flowing to play:
    
    SPOILER

    
    
    

    52,212,37993,6,2,B|48:180|28:156|28:156|44:124|44:84,1,120,2|0

11. 00:40:805 (5) - Why you guys are used to make sliders without love ç_ç
    
    
    SPOILER

    344,116,40805,2,0,B|348:36|264:4,1,120,2|0

12. 00:43:618 (1) - This spinner sounds so bad. I highly suggest you to end this spinner without finish and using 20% volume.
13. 00:45:493 (1) - Use finish on this slider's head instead of the previos spinner. It sounds much better
14. 00:49:243 (4) - New combo here according the long white line and the new vocal sound
15. 00:58:618 (4) - ^
16. 01:00:493 (1) - Remove whistle from this slider's head since you didn't use it on next elements
17. 01:02:368 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This part is breakin' the flow of the map. You could make the 01:02:368 (3) more curved, place the triplet 01:03:305 (4,5,6) making a blanket with (3)'s end, move the 01:04:243 (1) symmetrically with 01:03:774 (6) making it more curved to create a blanket with 01:03:539 (5) and lastly make the same curve on 01:05:649 (3) of the previous (1) slider. To simplify your life:
    
    SPOILER

    
    
    
    
    

    240,308,62368,2,0,B|176:332|112:304,1,120,0|8
    80,220,63305,1,0
    120,196,63539,1,0
    164,212,63774,1,8
    164,116,64243,6,0,B|100:88|28:144,1,120,0|8
    16,220,65180,1,0
    92,284,65649,2,0,B|156:308|228:256,1,120,8|0
    304,280,66586,1,8
    304,184,67055,1,0
    208,188,67524,1,8
    140,120,67993,6,0,B|76:72|20:72,1,120,0|8

18. 01:11:743 (1) - Clap here sounds much better than finish
19. 01:20:649 (1,2,3) - Instead to make a triplet here you could make a 1/2 slider with 1 repeat. It'd be easier to play for novice players and also to avoid this long combo
20. These suggestions would improve your map a lot IMO. I hope you will follow them.

1. 00:02:836 (1) - I'm going to say this just a time for this diff and I hope you will make the same for next sliders. To improve the flow move the 2nd waypoint to the slider's centre, in this way the curve would be more enjoyable to play.
2. 00:21:118 (6) - New combo
3. 00:24:868 (7) - New combo
4. 00:26:274 (1,2) - Remove new combo from (1) adding it on (2) instead
5. 00:27:680 (4) - Same of normal
6. 00:28:500 (1) - Start this spinner 1/4 later
7. 00:32:368 (6) - New combo
8. 00:36:118 (4) - ^
9. 00:39:868 (5) - ^
10. 00:41:743 (1) - You need to center the 2nd waypoint here to keep consistency with 00:42:680 (2): http://puu.sh/17ten
11. 00:43:618 (1) - I don't like how this finish sounds. Remove it?
12. 00:54:868 (7) - New combo
13. 00:58:618 (5) - ^
14. 01:33:071 (3) - Remove clap
15. 01:43:618 (6) - Forgot clap on this slider's end
16. 01:44:555 (1) - Clap on this slider's end too?
17. 01:45:961 (4) - Clap

1. 00:07:055 (1,2) - Add clap on (1) removing it from (2) instead, it's better IMO
2. 00:14:789 (4) - According the new hitsound pattern new combo here would be nice
   Nice diff, good job ;3

1. 00:50:414 (2,1,1) - kkd
2. 00:52:289 (2,3,1) - kdd
3. 01:06:352 (2) - k
4. 01:20:883 (2,1) - k d

Chewin wrote:

Hi owo/ Mod requested via MP :3

[General]

1. Rename the insane in "Laurier's Insane"?

my ranked guest diff names is not add "Laurier"

[Insane]

1. 00:07:055 (1,2) - Add clap on (1) removing it from (2) instead, it's better IMO um...This clap is follow BGM . no change ><
2. 00:14:789 (4) - According the new hitsound pattern new combo here would be nice ok!
   Nice diff, good job ;3

That's all.
You can call me back for a recheck, I'll be glad to help you with your first map.

Chewin wrote:

Hi owo/ Mod requested via MP :3 doumo chewin-san >w<

[General]

1. Rename the insane in "Laurier's Insane"?

[Normal]

1. 00:01:899 (3,4,5,6) - What about to edit this patter in this way? It'd be more flowing but especially easier and more enjoyable to play for beginners. You could blanket the slider (3) with (2) after which to place these elements: 00:02:836 (4,5,6) making a triangle and deleting the actual (6) circle because in my opinion it's totally overmapped for the easiest diff. Even if you can hear a clap in the song you can anyways avoid to make a circle there.
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   
   
   

   172,112,12211,6,0,B|152:176|92:184|92:184|132:236|72:316,1,240,8|8

   Sorry I don't understand code at all ><; but changed like this:
   
   SPOILER

   
2. 00:12:211 (1) - You can see this slider is asymmetric in test mode. You could improve its shape using this code:
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   

   284,332,1899,2,0,B|252:276|280:208,1,120,8|0
   244,124,2836,1,8
   220,32,3305,1,0
   124,52,3774,2,0,B|120:112|60:156,1,120,8|0
   124,232,4711,6,8,B|156:292|308:292|340:228,1,240

   changed like this owo
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 00:08:461 (2) - What an ugly slider here ç_ç I hate this type of slider's curve. Mh, this one would be much better IMO:
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   
   (I have also fixed the position of the next slider)
   

   256,212,8461,2,0,B|192:260|228:352|304:380|356:344,1,240,8|8
   356,156,10336,2,0,B|404:108|484:116,2,120,8|0|8

   changed like this shape
   
   SPOILER

   
4. 00:18:305 (5,6) - We can try to make this diff easier. I'd delete the (6) circle moving the (5) to x:425 y:323 making a triangle: http://puu.sh/17sUU removed all circle on red line in this diff ^o^
   
5. 00:22:993 (1,3) - Was it your intention to use these 2 shapes? Mh.. These sliders would be much better without that red sliders' points. deleted owob
6. 00:26:039 (4,5) - Maybe you already know xD Delete the (4) moving the actual (5) circle to x:376 y:300 ~
7. 00:26:743 (1) - CTRL + left mouse click on the 2nd waypoint to make it a red point. It would be symmetric: http://puu.sh/17sWA
   changed like this :3:
   
   SPOILER

   
8. 00:27:680 (2) - You could center the 2nd slider point to make this slider more flowing with a more enjoyable curve to play: http://puu.sh/17sX0 done
9. 00:27:680 (2) - Still here. You should remove the clap from the slider's tail to keep consistency with the head. Or, at least, if you want to keep it you should add clap on the slider's head too, but I prefer you delete the clap from the tail. done owo
10. 00:37:993 (1) - Make this slider symmetric and more flowing to play:
    
    SPOILER

    
    
    

    52,212,37993,6,2,B|48:180|28:156|28:156|44:124|44:84,1,120,2|0

    done owob
    
11. 00:40:805 (5) - Why you guys are used to make sliders without love ç_ç
    
    
    SPOILER

    344,116,40805,2,0,B|348:36|264:4,1,120,2|0

    done .w.
    
12. 00:43:618 (1) - This spinner sounds so bad. I highly suggest you to end this spinner without finish and using 20% volume. reduced
13. 00:45:493 (1) - Use finish on this slider's head instead of the previos spinner. It sounds much better done
14. 00:49:243 (4) - New combo here according the long white line and the new vocal sound nc-ed:3
15. 00:58:618 (4) - ^ ^
16. 01:00:493 (1) - Remove whistle from this slider's head since you didn't use it on next elements removed whistle on the slider tail owo
17. 01:02:368 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This part is breakin' the flow of the map. You could make the 01:02:368 (3) more curved, place the triplet 01:03:305 (4,5,6) making a blanket with (3)'s end, move the 01:04:243 (1) symmetrically with 01:03:774 (6) making it more curved to create a blanket with 01:03:539 (5) and lastly make the same curve on 01:05:649 (3) of the previous (1) slider. To simplify your life:
    
    SPOILER

    
    
    
    
    

    240,308,62368,2,0,B|176:332|112:304,1,120,0|8
    80,220,63305,1,0
    120,196,63539,1,0
    164,212,63774,1,8
    164,116,64243,6,0,B|100:88|28:144,1,120,0|8
    16,220,65180,1,0
    92,284,65649,2,0,B|156:308|228:256,1,120,8|0
    304,280,66586,1,8
    304,184,67055,1,0
    208,188,67524,1,8
    140,120,67993,6,0,B|76:72|20:72,1,120,0|8

    done >.<
    
18. 01:11:743 (1) - Clap here sounds much better than finish done :3
19. 01:20:649 (1,2,3) - Instead to make a triplet here you could make a 1/2 slider with 1 repeat. It'd be easier to play for novice players and also to avoid this long combo done~ all circle on red line removed and fixed slider on 01:39:868 and 01:41:743 :3
20. These suggestions would improve your map a lot IMO. I hope you will follow them. done >u<

[Hard]

1. 00:02:836 (1) - I'm going to say this just a time for this diff and I hope you will make the same for next sliders. To improve the flow move the 2nd waypoint to the slider's centre, in this way the curve would be more enjoyable to play. all done ><
2. 00:21:118 (6) - New combo done :3
3. 00:24:868 (7) - New combo ^
4. 00:26:274 (1,2) - Remove new combo from (1) adding it on (2) instead done ><
5. 00:27:680 (4) - Same of normal removed clap on the tail o7
6. 00:28:500 (1) - Start this spinner 1/4 later done o7
7. 00:32:368 (6) - New combo done
8. 00:36:118 (4) - ^ ^
9. 00:39:868 (5) - ^ ^
10. 00:41:743 (1) - You need to center the 2nd waypoint here to keep consistency with 00:42:680 (2): http://puu.sh/17ten changed :3
11. 00:43:618 (1) - I don't like how this finish sounds. Remove it? same as normal, removed finish and reduce the vol into 20%
12. 00:54:868 (7) - New combo done
13. 00:58:618 (5) - ^ done
14. 01:33:071 (3) - Remove clap done ><
15. 01:43:618 (6) - Forgot clap on this slider's end done ><
16. 01:44:555 (1) - Clap on this slider's end too? added clap on the tail end removed clap on the head, sounds fine? owo
17. 01:45:961 (4) - Clap done ><

[Taiko]

1. 00:50:414 (2,1,1) - kkd
2. 00:52:289 (2,3,1) - kdd
3. 01:06:352 (2) - k
4. 01:20:883 (2,1) - k d
   all done :3

That's all.
You can call me back for a recheck, I'll be glad to help you with your first map.

dragonxcz wrote:

Ok. Since you changed offset how I said, here is my star~

Chewin wrote:

changed the code at 00:01:899 (3,4,5,6) , 01:02:368 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) , 00:40:805 (5) ><
thanks for the tutorial hehehe \:D/

- M i K u - wrote:

all difficult looks good
i hope this will be ranked :33

BeatofIke wrote:

RANK IT!

Chewin wrote:

Recheck to repair the bubble. >w<;

[Normal]

01:00:493 (2) - I see you edited this part, add new combo. done o7

[Hard]

00:35:180 (3) - Reduce this slider by 1/4 removing whistle from the reverse arrow and adding a circle on 00:35:883:

SPOILER

done, also added whistle on 00:35:883- circle owo
01:28:618 (1) - Remove whistle
done o7
01:29:555 (2) - Remove this slider and follow this rhythm, it fits much better. You can use whistle on (3) if you like it:

SPOILER

done, added whistle on 01:30:024- and 01:30:258- , seems fine? oAo;;;a

Chewin wrote:

Nice, rebubbled

Katty Pie wrote:

Go go moe :3 good luck with rank

1. I see you're using a clap on a custom slidertick. You're using a raw hitclap right from the template skin right?
   In osu! hitsounds, a xxx-hitclap, xxx-hitwhistle, and xxx-hitfinish are always combined with xxx-hitnormal. Without hitnormal, those claps, whistles and finishes sounds awkward and rather harsh. And... you're using just a raw hitclap. My opinion is, you should combine the clap with the hitnormal manually from a sound editor (e.g. Audacity) so it fits with the hitsounds and doesn't sounds harsh. ~This is just an opinion, you're free to apply or not to apply this
2. BG 800x600 looks blurry here >< why don't you get a bigger resolution for this? 1024x768 maybe?

1. AR +2? Current AR is too low and doesn't matched up with the SV.
2. 00:09:868 - Add note here?
3. 00:11:743 - ^
4. 00:24:868 (3) - nazi - Rotate this 55 degree with selection centre origin?
5. 00:27:680 (2) - Feels awkward. How about this?
6. 00:32:368 (3) - If you're going to consist the hitsounds from beforesliders, could you please remove the whistle from the slider reverse?
7. 00:33:774 (4) - Yep, to consist hitsounds, could you remove the whistle here?
8. 00:37:055 (4) - Split into two hitcircle?
9. 00:40:805 (5) - awkward flow... how about this? http://puu.sh/18LAW
10. 00:52:993 (2) - Bad flow, ctrl+r please? *Don't forget to readjust the notes after these
11. 01:07:289 - Add note here?
12. 01:11:039 - ^
13. 01:15:493 (1,2,3,4) - please, pleeeease clear these and make this section as a break (01:14:555 - 01:16:899)
14. 01:28:149 (1,2) - Unstack please?
15. 01:32:368 (1) - nazi - move this circle to x:104 y:280 ? This will make a better flow, unblocked note (by spinner hitburst) and unconfusing movement (if you were playing FL here you might confused where's the slider head, left or right, youknowwhatimeanright)
16. 01:35:649 (1,2) - Unstack please?
17. 01:37:055 (3) - How about this? http://puu.sh/18LD2

1. 00:15:493 (1) - Players might get confused to slide here since the shape was same as the before slider but with a different SV, another slider shape maybe?
2. 00:27:211 (2,3) - How about this? http://puu.sh/18LDE
3. 00:38:930 (3) - Remove finish from slider start?
4. 00:39:868 (1) - ^
5. 00:40:805 (2) - Replace this with http://puu.sh/18LEw ? With whistle on those slider ends.
6. 01:11:743 (1,2,3) - Bad polarity (there's a note on blue tick without any switches), how about replacing this into slider with one reverse?
7. 01:15:493 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like Normal, could you pleeease clear this section and make it a break?
8. 01:25:571 (3) - bad flow, this note is confusing since there was 01:24:633 (1) - and next after the slider there was 01:25:805 (4) - . I afraid players wil hit 01:25:805 (4) - first instead of this note, especially if they're playing with FL.
9. 01:24:868 (2) - Whistl'd this slider? Just click the slider and click whistle. (you don't need to set the whistle on the start or the end, just allover the slider, youknowwhatimeanhere)
10. 01:28:149 (3,4) - How about these? http://puu.sh/18LGr
11. 01:30:493 (4,5) - Merge these into one slider?
12. 01:34:946 (3) - Remove clap?
13. 01:42:211 (2) - Bad flow, how about this? http://puu.sh/18LGW
14. 01:43:383 (5) - bad flow too, how about this? http://puu.sh/18LHj
15. 01:44:321 (2) - Split into two circle?
16. 01:46:664 (2,4) - ctrl+r? Better flow if like this imo

inverness wrote:

[General]

1. I see you're using a clap on a custom slidertick. You're using a raw hitclap right from the template skin right?
   In osu! hitsounds, a xxx-hitclap, xxx-hitwhistle, and xxx-hitfinish are always combined with xxx-hitnormal. Without hitnormal, those claps, whistles and finishes sounds awkward and rather harsh. And... you're using just a raw hitclap. My opinion is, you should combine the clap with the hitnormal manually from a sound editor (e.g. Audacity) so it fits with the hitsounds and doesn't sounds harsh. ~This is just an opinion, you're free to apply or not to apply this

lolcubes wrote:

I see you gave a kudo to this post. Do you intend to change anything? If yes this needs to be popped.

1. 00:28:852 (4) - k
2. 00:29:203 (2) - d
3. 00:29:555 (1,1,1,1,1) - ddkdk (or ddkkk) - the kats should be better now with these k placement (:
4. 00:43:852 (1) - End spinner 1/4 after? Quoting from NatsumeRin here here
   

   you don't need to finish it at the blue line (because it doesn't matter to a sound), finish it somewhere more "common"

5. 00:52:758 (3,4,5) - Personally I'd change (3) to k, and delete (4)~

1. 00:02:836 (4,5,6) - Why inconsistent spacing here o.o
2. 00:11:743 (x) - Add note with new combo here? Feels quite weird if the rhythm is discontinued...
3. 00:12:211 (1) - If you changed above, you could just simply adjust 00:11:743 and the following slider and by this code:
   

   315,118,11743,5,0,0:0
   221,140,12211,2,0,B|186:188|118:187|118:187|80:243|112:303,1,240,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0

   ...the following two notes shouldn't be hard to adjust (:
4. 00:41:743 (1,2,3) - ...it's very visible that you're forcing these three in the center orz, it'll be MUCH better if you put (1) in ~x:204 y:37 and the following (2,3) in ~x:93 y:192 - this way, you can still get (2,3) centered but in much less forcing angle~
5. 00:47:836 (3) - Rotate around ~40-45° selection centre to get a slider fan with previous (2)?
6. 01:15:522 - Drag break manually here

1. 00:00:961 (2,3) - - Uhm, personally I disliked their current placement, the spacing from (3) to (4) could be very deceiving imo... A jump like you did on 00:04:243 (1,2) is MUCH more intuitive, really (:
2. 00:14:086 (7,1) - Although (1) is a slowdown slider, use a normal spacing for these two (just stack it to 00:13:149 (5)'s end) - again, for intuitivity...
3. 00:24:868 (1) - Move the red waypoint to ~x:409 y:59
4. 00:42:680 (2) - ...I wonder why don't you just create a symmetrical jump here? Plays better imo (just CTRL+H and CTRL+J this slider from its current position)
5. 00:50:649 (8) - I highly suggest to CTRL+G this slider, the circular movement here will play MUCH more natural for players~
6. 01:05:649 (4,5,6) - Uhm, spacing issue again here (5,6)... Try this though:
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 01:28:618 (1) - Err, what are you aiming from this slider's shape? It can be made much tidier at least (I played around with this and got this shape, it's much neater though xD)
   

   384,240,88618,6,0,B|421:225|458:239|458:239|421:200|436:134|496:126,1,225,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0

1. 00:28:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Once more I recommend to use gradual volume increase here~
2. 00:45:258 (4) - Whistle?

1. 1.Making a 1/4 beats at the begining of the song, that's better for player to catch the rhythm.
2. 2.Making a triple beats at the begining of the red line, and 5 beats from the white line are usually nice tempo.

1. 00:01:196 (1,2,3,4) - I feel better if it's only three beats here like 00:01:196 - d, 00:01:430 - d, 00:01:664 - d
2. 00:03:188 (2) - remove
3. 00:04:594 (4) - ^
4. 00:04:946 (1,2,3,4) - same as the first one
5. 00:10:688 (2) - remove
6. 00:11:625 (1) - remove
7. 00:12:797 (4) - ^
8. 00:13:032 (5) - ^
9. 00:29:321 (3,4,1,1,1,1,1) - ddkdkdk
10. 00:37:407 - k
11. 00:37:641 (1) - remove
12. 00:43:149 (1,2,1) - kkd

inverness wrote:

[SB Optimization]
I have to know whether you want to get my detailed explanations on this or you just want me to optimize the SB by myself.
Detailed explanations might require some little scripting skills though, but if you're curious about SB and want to fix anything by your own I'll explain you thoroughly and completely about this, don't worry

inverness wrote:

inverness wrote:

[SB Optimization]
I have to know whether you want to get my detailed explanations on this or you just want me to optimize the SB by myself.
Detailed explanations might require some little scripting skills though, but if you're curious about SB and want to fix anything by your own I'll explain you thoroughly and completely about this, don't worry

you haven't reply this umm i'm curious .w.

- t e n n y a - wrote:

sorry uhum I was on my mid term exam D: so how when we can discuss it? owo

1. 00:03:657 (1) - delete this and put d on 00:07:407 - , maybe better for difficulty
2. 00:30:727 (1) - the color and sound is odd, this is a k now
3. 00:28:032 - add d? it fits the vocal more
4. 00:41:743 (1) - remove finish?
5. 00:59:907 - add d? the pattern from 00:45:493 - to here is made of mostly triplet, this addition will make change and sound more interesting IMO

- t e n n y a - wrote:

added SB by inverness on 13 Oct 2012 please re download! ^^

Matoryoshika wrote:

- t e n n y a - wrote:

added SB by inverness on 13 Oct 2012 please re download! ^^

truly godlike SB-er

1. The Taiko SB orz... it has parts like this:
   
   Just scale it smaller though, to prevent overlap with pippi's graphic (:
   

    S,0,-3257,-210,0.8,0.8

2. 'laurier.png' and 'tennya.png' has unnecessary transparency, please remove it (There must not be any unnecessary transparency around storyboarded images)
3. ...err, I'll just quote this:
   

   The maximum dimensions for tall or wide scrolling images are 640x1440 and 1920x480 respectively. This is for the sake of gameplay performance, image loading time, and filesize.

   ...just resize BG2,3,5,6 to 640x480 and BG1,4 to 480x640, so you don't need the scale code anymore (:
4. To tennya : Remove the countdown, it's not needed anymore because of the SB code :3

1. 00:27:680 (3) - ...isn't there supposed to be clap on slider's end? o.o
2. 01:29:555 (2) - I see you changed (1)... Don't forget to adjust (2) by placing it in ~x:429 y:47 as well :3

Niva wrote:

...uhm...
(don't kd this)

[Hard]

1. 00:27:680 (3) - ...isn't there supposed to be clap on slider's end? o.o done owob
2. 01:29:555 (2) - I see you changed (1)... Don't forget to adjust (2) by placing it in ~x:429 y:47 as well :3 done owobb

...*stres*

Itu title text-nya udah dipindahin, kalau mau recolor bilang aja nanti diurus (: terima kasih QAQ
...beneran ini bikin stres orz >_<

Niva wrote:

*stress*

Itu 'thank you for playing'-nya masih ada unnecessary transparency (udah dites di Photoshop) orz ._.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa