IRC Modded the Taiko @ Fiya's Request
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14:52 Fiya: : Excuse me, do you got a little extra time? I was wondering if you would take a look at a taiko I made recently since
14:52 Fiya: : you seemed to like my older ones from what I've heard from Haruka and Nyquill
14:52 Makar: : lol sure you dont have to be formal about it
14:52 Fiya: : sorry
14:52 Fiya: : I'm nervous
14:52 Fiya: : xD
14:52 Makar: : multi
14:52 Makar: : line
14:52 Makar: : f
14:52 Makar: : t
14:52 Makar: : w
14:52 Makar: : :D
14:52 Fiya: : xD
14:53 Fiya: : I do that a lot
14:53 Fiya: : orz
14:53 Makar: : :<
14:53 : *Makar pats
14:53 : *Fiya is listening to (Ken Nakagawa - Tsuioku no Michishirube ~ Sono Ni)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/42158]
14:53 Fiya: : Haruka already sorta modded it yesterday
14:53 Makar: : downloading
14:53 Makar: : oh
14:53 Fiya: : thanks :D
14:53 Makar: : yeah I heard
14:53 Makar: : =w=
14:54 Fiya: : really?
14:54 Fiya: : lol
14:54 Makar: : yes
14:54 Makar: : downloading at slow internet so give me a sec
14:54 Fiya: : it's cool
14:54 Fiya: : I'm patient enough
14:54 Fiya: : xD
14:55 Makar: : going to play it first ofc
14:55 Fiya: : I would hope
14:55 Fiya: : orz
14:55 Makar: : no HD
14:55 Makar: : looool
14:55 Fiya: : lolz
14:55 Fiya: : too slow
14:55 Fiya: : xD
14:55 Makar: : yeah xD
14:58 Makar: : sorry for bad playing
14:58 Makar: : anyways
14:58 Makar: : overall tis cool
14:58 Fiya: : idk
14:58 Fiya: : seemed better than me
14:58 Fiya: : now
14:59 Fiya: : there are 3 things that I was going to ask for opinions on along with whatever you have to say
14:59 Makar: : go ahead
14:59 Fiya: : alright, first the speed up on the kiai
15:00 Fiya: : it's 1.4 times
15:00 Fiya: : I was wondering if you think it would look better as 1.2
15:00 Fiya: : since I like both but can't really decide
15:01 Fiya: : I think going from 1.0 to 1.4 at the beginning looks better than 1.4 to 1.2, but going from 1.4 to 0.8 at the end is a
15:01 Fiya: : little wierd
15:01 Fiya: : 1.0 to 1.2*
15:02 Makar: : I agree
15:02 Makar: : uhmmm
15:02 Makar: : you might hate me for suggesting this but what about using 1.2 at Kiai but changing overall SV to 1.6
15:03 Fiya: : why would I hate you for that
15:03 Fiya: : lol
15:03 Makar: : because a lot of people hate 1.6 suggestions
15:03 Makar: : xD
15:03 Makar: : I dont usually give them either
15:03 Fiya: : I generally don't change from 1.4 just because I like the way 1.4 looks but I never tried that yet
15:03 Makar: : and also the 0.8 wouldnt look so bad
15:03 Fiya: : so I'll try that now I guess
15:03 Makar: : 1.4 SV at 0.8 is like realllly slow and close together
15:03 Makar: : its already slow bpm
15:04 Fiya: : yea
15:04 Makar: : and it makes the blue tick patterns a bit harder to read when everything is closer
15:04 Fiya: : there's only 1 1/4th note though in the 0.8
15:04 Fiya: : so I figured it would be okay
15:04 Fiya: : but checking out 1.6 anyway
15:04 Makar: : true lol
15:05 Makar: : btw random but can you do me a favour
15:05 Fiya: : what's up
15:05 Makar: : nyquill asked me to do a taiko for him but I really cant do it anytime soon (its a TV size map)
15:05 Makar: : wanna collab or something
15:05 Fiya: : yes I can
15:06 Fiya: : tv size taiko takes me like 2 hours alone
15:06 Fiya: : so w/e
15:06 Makar: : lol
15:06 Makar: : k after looking at this map ill explain more
15:07 Fiya: : the 1.6 actually doesn't look that bad
15:07 Makar: : I like the thing you did with the SV at the end btw
15:08 Fiya: : what did I do
15:08 Makar: : really smooth o.ob
15:08 Fiya: : oh the speed ups?
15:08 Makar: : speedup yeah
15:08 Fiya: : well
15:08 Fiya: : when the map is slow
15:08 Fiya: : you have to be creative somehow
15:08 Fiya: : xD
15:08 Makar: : yeah xD
15:09 Fiya: : I think
15:09 Fiya: : before changing to 1.6 I would like a couple more opinions
15:09 Makar: : alright
15:09 Fiya: : cuz still I like both
15:09 Makar: : you could ask haruka about it later I guess
15:09 Fiya: : yea
15:09 Fiya: : we didn't really discuss 1.6
15:10 Fiya: : just
15:10 Fiya: : what do you think would look better without changing the main sv
15:10 Makar: : yeah
15:10 Makar: : 1.2 would be better eitherway imo btw
15:10 Makar: : at kiai
15:10 Fiya: : lolz
15:11 Fiya: : 1 for 1.4 and 1 for 1.2 so far
15:11 Fiya: : xD
15:11 Makar: : I kinda think of it like
15:11 Makar: : this map is going to be DT+HD'd
15:11 Fiya: : it is
15:11 Fiya: : a lot
15:11 Makar: : the big change in SV
15:11 Makar: : makes HD a pain
15:11 Makar: : no matter the BPM
15:11 Makar: : if its big like that its hard to adjust
15:12 Makar: : (im an HD only player btw)
15:12 Fiya: : I saw
15:12 Fiya: : xD
15:12 Makar: : so yeah its not just what looks better but playability as well xD
15:12 Fiya: : I don't want to like kick you or anything, but I don't really map for the mods orz
15:12 Makar: : not sure what their argument for 1.4 was
15:12 Makar: : well yeah ofc it shouldnt be the only reasoning
15:13 Makar: : I mean,
15:13 Makar: : if its harder to HD, that also means its harder to adjust to without mods for newer players
15:13 Fiya: : true
15:13 Makar: : just think of it like a handicap I guess
15:13 Fiya: : derp, you see why I asked
15:14 Fiya: : alright
15:14 Fiya: : for now I'll go with the sv change to 1.2
15:14 Fiya: : but keep 1.4 for main
15:14 Makar: : alright
15:14 Fiya: : since as you said lots of people don't like 1.6 for some reason
15:15 Makar: : most of the time its because they dont like non-authentic stuff
15:15 Makar: : idk
15:15 Fiya: : >non-authentic
15:15 Fiya: : >playing taiko on a keyboard
15:15 Makar: : exactly lol
15:15 Fiya: : I don't understand
15:15 Fiya: : lol
15:16 Fiya: : well anyway
15:16 Makar: : I hate it when people use authenticy as an excuse when there is no other reasoning behind it
15:16 Makar: : ex no breaks in taiko
15:16 Fiya: : nothing is authentic about taiko in this game
15:16 Fiya: : xD
15:16 Makar: : well there are things like
15:16 Makar: : finisher rules
15:16 Makar: : but they have other reasons
15:16 Makar: : besides authenticy
15:16 Makar: : xD
15:16 Fiya: : mainly
15:16 Fiya: : they are immpossible to play when you use them wrong
15:17 Makar: : yeah exactly
15:17 Makar: : anyways
15:17 Makar: : uh
15:17 Makar: : what else did you want opinions on
15:17 Fiya: : the other two things
15:17 Fiya: : uhm
15:17 Fiya: : the last note
15:17 Fiya: : K and D both fit to me
15:18 Fiya: : do you think D sounds better or K
15:18 Fiya: : Haruka said she liked D
15:18 Makar: : I like D
15:18 Fiya: : then I'll keep D
15:18 Fiya: : and you kind of answered the other one already
15:19 Fiya: : I was gonna ask if you liked the speed ups after kiai
15:19 Makar: : I already told you I liked those
15:19 Makar: : xD
15:19 Makar: : yeah
15:19 Fiya: : I know
15:19 Fiya: : xD
15:19 Makar: : alright uh ill go through it a bit more for pattern suggestions now I guess
15:20 Fiya: : mm
15:20 Makar: : oh uh
15:20 Makar: : soft hitsounds
15:21 Fiya: : what about them
15:21 Makar: : they dont really sound good when using the non-taiko theme imo
15:21 Makar: : lol
15:21 Fiya: : neither do the normal ones
15:21 Fiya: : orz
15:21 Makar: : lemme compare actually one sec
15:22 Fiya: : unless I don't remember them right
15:22 Fiya: : and they actually do sound good
15:23 Makar: : yeah I like the normal ones better
15:23 Makar: : just my opinion though I guess
15:23 Fiya: : I never map taiko without taiko hitsounds so I tend to forget that they're different
15:23 Makar: : same
15:23 Makar: : I use the taiko hitsounds too xD
15:24 Fiya: : but yea I can change that
15:24 Fiya: : it's just switch to normal set and find a lower volume
15:24 Fiya: : lolz
15:24 Makar: : yup
15:25 Makar: : 00:21:190 (7,8,9,10,11) -
15:25 Makar: : what about following piano here like you did everywhere else o.o
15:25 Makar: : dk dk d
15:25 Fiya: : I did before
15:25 Fiya: : what it ended up as though
15:26 Fiya: : was a 5 in the middle of a bunch of 4's
15:26 Fiya: : which played wierd
15:26 Fiya: : cuz it was originally dkddk dk d K starting 00:20:740 -
15:27 Makar: : yeah
15:27 Fiya: : the 5 kind of throw's of the quad flow of that section
15:27 Makar: : I see
15:28 Fiya: : so I tried following the violin like haruka suggested instead of the piano there to keep the flow better
15:28 Makar: : mhm
15:29 Makar: : okay um
15:29 Makar: : while test playing
15:30 Makar: : 00:40:090 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - this area/section/whatever felt weird to play and I assume
15:30 Makar: : its because you stop following the drums for a bit and follow the cello or whatever the hell it is
15:31 Makar: : ex
15:31 Makar: : 00:40:390 - d here
15:31 Makar: : 00:40:840 - remove
15:31 Makar: : 00:41:440 - note here
15:32 Makar: : 00:42:040 - remove
15:32 Makar: : etc
15:32 Fiya: : actually it was less me not following the drums and more just trying not to repeat the same patterns too much
15:32 Makar: : and then you start following the drums again here 00:41:890 -
15:33 Makar: : I see what you mean but I dont think the drum is constantly doing the same pattern
15:33 Fiya: : it isn't
15:33 Makar: : so to me it would be okay to follow the drums in this section to be consistent withen the kiai
15:34 Makar: : just my opinion though xD
15:34 Fiya: : lol
15:34 Fiya: : that's what a mod is though
15:34 Fiya: : is an opnion
15:34 Fiya: : I am
15:34 Fiya: : taking it into account
15:34 Fiya: : and trying things
15:35 Makar: : thats all for me to point out btw
15:35 Fiya: : so if I did that there though
15:35 Fiya: : 00:35:290 - shouldn't I change this too
15:36 Fiya: : since it is essentially the same thing
15:36 Makar: : it is
15:36 Makar: : but eh
15:36 Makar: : I didnt find it awkward to play
15:36 Fiya: : 00:44:890 - here too
15:36 Fiya: : lol
15:36 Makar: : I only pointed it out in the kiai because it actually felt wierd
15:36 Fiya: : well
15:36 Fiya: : lolz
15:38 Fiya: : hmm
15:38 Fiya: : if I change the one time you pointed out
15:39 Fiya: : it is consistent with the kiai then
15:39 Makar: : mhm o.o
15:39 Fiya: : then I'll just change that one
15:39 Fiya: : xD
15:39 Makar: : lol
15:39 Fiya: : I don't know
15:39 Fiya: : I was thinking too hard
15:39 Makar: : you can also just get more opinions too if they think th eothers should be changed too
15:40 Makar: : but the others are fine imo xD
15:40 Fiya: : yea
15:40 Fiya: : I guess I'll just add that into what I ask first
15:40 Fiya: : lol
15:40 Makar: : alright o.o