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DavisWTG
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But this makes the decision on who to use as a main character even harder. Up until now, I thought I'd play either Chie or Naoto - but now that Elizabeth was announced, that decision gets only more complicated. Ah well. It's too bad that they had to add Shadow Labrys, though. Adachi could have been a nice addition, in my opinion at least.
Anyways, a part of the OST was also already leaked to Youtube and Nicovideo - I think the User mayonakaforums on Youtube already uploaded everything of the leaked OST so far.
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Naoto has the best theme and the coolest gimmick so I will main her assuredly. Looking forward to seeing how Elizabeth (and more importantly Thanatos) plays out. I'd honestly rather see Margaret than Elizabeth but whatev.

I'm actually really excited about what it means that Elizabeth is going in. Pretty much expands the horizons on what characters we might see in the future.
DavisWTG
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Ivalset wrote:

Naoto has the best theme and the coolest gimmick so I will main her assuredly. Looking forward to seeing how Elizabeth (and more importantly Thanatos) plays out. I'd honestly rather see Margaret than Elizabeth but whatev.

I'm actually really excited about what it means that Elizabeth is going in. Pretty much expands the horizons on what characters we might see in the future.
Well, maybe they'll add characters from P1 and P2 later, maybe as DLC (though I won't hope that it is like that). And I'd still vote for Adachi as a playable character, even though it'd mean that he'd basically be a combination of Naoto and Yu.
About the themes - well, Yosuke's and Aigis' theme are the ones I like the most so far, with Mitsuru's theme being a close third place. Still doesn't stop me from using either Chie or Naoto as main - maybe the other one as a secondary character, then.
Also, Chie seems to be considered top tier so far - though I'd still play her even if it wouldn't be like that.
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Tiers seem to be all over the place from the videos I've watched. I've seen a lot of stellar Aigis, Souji (fuck yu), Mitsuru and Kanji play. Honestly, I haven't seen many good Chie videos; seems like she has to work a lot to get her damage compared to other characters. I'd be interested in seeing what exactly makes her top tier.

We should start linking awesome matches and discussing them in here.
DavisWTG
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Or maybe I just mixed it up with another character. Ah well.
Though, if I remember right you can do enormous damage with her if the enemy is in a corner. There was a video somewhere on youtube, maybe I'll still find it.
Though I can't say that I can say much about matches - it's not that I've played too much Beat'em'Ups in the past.
Ivalset
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Enjoy, this kanji is fucking ludicrous.

Edit: Some Souji as well.
Remco32
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Fucking Meguro now I really want this game.
DavisWTG
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Ivalset, I think you've linked the same video twice, I just noticed that...
Edit: Never mind that, seems there was some mistake on my end.
Though, I looked at the beginning of the Kanji vs. Chie fight, and man... that player surely is brutal.
Ivalset
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Nah, you were right, I noticed it shortly after and fixed it.
DavisWTG
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Also, another thing I've been wondering about for the last few hours since Elizabeth was announced: Any predictions on what her theme will be? After all, all of the themes seem to be remix versions of older ones. For comparison:
Yu/Souji: Reach Out To The Truth
Yosuke: Like A Dream Come True
Chie: Kerorin Magic!
Yukiko: Someone's Husband
Kanji: Sauna
Teddie: Pursuing My True Self
Naoto: Speculation
Akihiko: Unavoidable Battle
Aigis: Heartful Cry
Mitsuru: Sun
Though, some of those are still speculations. I'm definitely certain about Souji, Chie, Akihiko and Aigis, though.
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I don't care for fighting games but props to Elizabeth
Remco32
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Will this game even be released in Yurup?
DavisWTG
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Remco32 wrote:

Will this game even be released in Yurup?
Well, since Arc System Works also develops the game, and their games are usually very likely to get a release in Europe, I'd say that we should be able to get it.
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oh man I never posted in here about the end of The Answer. Right after clearing the final door, and that thing happened, you know the one, and that event that followed? That blew my fucking mind. I was up until 5am playing P3FES because I just couldn't sleep.

Most of the time your decisions are like, Do I save the world, or do I say fuck it and sleep in? The "righteous" answer is clear-cut, the optimal answer is clear cut, the correct answer based on your own personal beliefs is generally right in front of you. This time around I just could not decide. I couldn't take a strictly logical approach. I couldn't take a strictly optimal approach. I was like, well, shit. The entire lack of a story for the first 20 hours has just been forgiven.

And then I slept until noon.
Ivalset
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I don't even strictly remember the choice in The Answer. I'm guessing it's about what to do with the keys after all?

In any case, I enjoyed The Answer more than I enjoyed The Journey and it gave me a serious appreciation for Aigis, who I disliked/hated before playing it. Metis is still the best. And my hatred for Yukari rose exponentially!
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Ivalset wrote:

I don't even strictly remember the choice in The Answer. I'm guessing it's about what to do with the keys after all?
yeah

idk about you, I loved Aigis through and through since I met her. I actually didn't think The Answer added anything to her character, despite that entire game revolving around her and Metis. There was no character growth going on. Nothing substantial.
Ivalset
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Mm, I dunno. The gradual transformation from Aigis being pretty much just a robot to experiencing and having human emotions and the like is what I was referring to. A lot of that character growth is indeed done in The Journey, but the results of it were more readily evident in The Answer. I never really felt like Aigis was really exhibiting human-like behavior until playing through The Answer. She felt more like a true member of the team rather than just some robotic anti-shadow weapon.

Oh, I also hate silent protagonists, so that might have also had a somewhat mild effect. I can always appreciate a voiced protagonist.
Remco32
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Persona 5 confirmed: http://www.screwattack.com/news/music-t ... -persona-5

EDIT: Me and a buddy have been linking each other songs for a while now. The OST is really great. Note the Pink Floyd lyrics in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... AxAY#t=45s

I need a PS3.

Apparently it's fanmade.
Drakari_old
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Persona 5 has been confirmed for a while... If I recall correctly, it was announced simultaneously with Persona 4: The Golden for the Vita.
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To get my Megaten fix recently, I've been getting further into Digital Devil Saga. If you didn't mind the dungeon-crawly aspects of the Persona games, I'd say to check them out. Really digging the story/setting (post-apocalypse rooted in Hindu mythological tradition), and the battle system is fun to abuse.

Also, mantras are like Personas except slightly more annoying (if used to Persona 3 and 4), and like magatama (Nocturne) but much less annoying. So, good in-between with a lot of customization.

EDIT: Also, I just find something so grimly satisfying about the concept of you devouring other demons to survive.
Norbi
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I loved playing DDS1-2. I didn't like only one thing in the second game: one demon design. You'll see which one and why, because I don't really want to spoil anything.
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I want to pick up Overclocked for the 3DS, soon as I see it for 20bux-ish.
Dafydd
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I apologize for grave digging, but I'm planning to play Persona soon.
Sooo, should I start playing from the first Persona (are Persona 2,3,4 sequels?) or each game isn't related to one another?
I don't mind the graphics, I'm a lot interested on the story.
Ivalset
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They're not really related, except for Persona 2, where Eternal Punishment is a sequel to Innocent Sin.

I would probably start with Persona 4 or Persona 3: FES/Persona 3 Portable, and if you enjoy those, then work your way back. Persona 1 is a little shaky, and both Persona 2 games are awesome though a little bit more complex and slightly harder to break into.
Dafydd
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After researching and reading yer post, I''ll start on Persona 3 and then the rest will follow.
Thanks. :D
Remco32
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Protip, don't play P3 but go for P3:FES, it's the enhanced edition.
Dafydd
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Protip noted. Thank you. :D
awp
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I started with Persona 4, and it was the best RPG I've ever played, I think

P3 FES is still good, and does some things better than P4 though
DavisWTG
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So, I just checked some videos to P4A again, and noticed something - seems like the game will get two more characters, as recent screenshots show two more icons. And there are already plenty of guesses on Youtube about the new characters, especially since one of the character themes is confirmed to be I'll Face Myself. Well, I'm still hoping Adachi manages it to get in...

Also, there was an interesting announcement last week that I didn't notice up until now. Guess that we're getting another 3DS-remake of a SMT game, though this time, it's one that never reached the US or Europe. Also, it seems like Devil Survivor Overclocked and Devil Survivor 2 will finally reach Europe... I guess I finally have a reason to get a 3DS then. Too bad that I already imported Devil Survivor 2, though.
DavisWTG
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http://megaten4.jp/

Now doesn't this look awesome? I just came across this site a few hours ago. Hopefully, they'll update that page soon.
rust45
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So Persona 4 Arena came out today. Anyone else have it? It's pretty fun, though all I've done are some random battles with my brother.
Ekaru
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rust45 wrote:

So Persona 4 Arena came out today. Anyone else have it? It's pretty fun, though all I've done are some random battles with my brother.
My brother got it. I watched him go through the first two battles in Yu's chapter in story mode, though he's making me watch the anime before I can play it myself. :(
rust45
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What system do you have it on? Xbox or PS3? I got it on Xbox.
Ekaru
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rust45 wrote:

What system do you have it on? Xbox or PS3? I got it on Xbox.
PS3 because that's the system real men have.
rust45
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Hey, don't get me wrong, I really like the PS3 and I have one. But I get my multi-console games on Xbox because I'm paying for Xbox Live so I might as well use it. And I have more RL friends with Xboxs.
awp
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the X360's control pad is kind of shit though
rust45
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Yeah... but I don't really like use the control pad for fighters anyway, I know it's technically better, but I can't stand using either control pad for fighters. And since I use the analog stick, that doesn't even matter between systems.

But still, we should be talking about the game. I'm really liking Naoto, but Akihiko interests me as well. I would be messing with both of them right now, but my brother is currently playing.
Ivalset
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Yup, picked it up today for ps3.

Already been bodied hard by Mafiamaster!
Norbi
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I think these kind of fighters are better played with the D-Pad. Also, I'd get the game for PS3 (I don't own a PS3 or a XBox360 yet. orz). Judging from some gameplay videos, mostly the tutorial and moveset ones Atlus shared, I'd porbably use Naoto and Elizabeth as my main characters. (Those One-Hit KO moves can be deadly! Even if you have to be lucky.)
rust45
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All my online games of Naoto have ended in failure. So I've decided to spend some time in training with her. I really like her fate counter system and it's great if I can manage to get the enemy to zero, because I have a pretty sure fire way of getting Mudoon off.

EDIT: Techno Remix of Aria of the Soul is badass.
Cyclone
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Got this for ps3. Been fun so far.

Fucking arksys though, I can't do these combos
xerxes_oli
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DavisWTG wrote:

http://megaten4.jp/

Now doesn't this look awesome? I just came across this site a few hours ago. Hopefully, they'll update that page soon.
AHH it's coming out on 3DS, AMAZING!
HakuNoKaemi
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A little Teaser of Persona 3 the Movie has been released
Ekaru
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Cyclone wrote:

Got this for ps3. Been fun so far.

Fucking arksys though, I can't do these combos
Oh, oh, I can do the auto combo! Does that count?
HakuNoKaemi
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Auto-combo have lowered damage

and in Blaz Blue with my characters I was better without the Beginner Mode that with, even by just knowing some short combos and failing to do Distortions
rust45
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I don't really mind the autocombos much (I first loathed the idea, but it's not so bad now) but I think Yu's autocombo was way too much damage for being an autocombo. Everytime one manages to hit me with it, I seem to lose close to a fourth of my health.
Cyclone
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Every time Elizabeth does her 60+ hit combo against me in story mode I just start busting out laughing, since nobody else usually gets much in on me.

Also holy shit this story mode.
Mafiamaster
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What? Cyclone has a PS3 and P4A?

What's your PSN? We could play together sometime!
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Uh, when I get home I'll see exactly how I made my psn. I think it's white-zephyr, including the hyphen, but I'll let you know for sure tonight.
Ivalset
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Cyclone wrote:

Uh, when I get home I'll see exactly how I made my psn. I think it's white-zephyr, including the hyphen, but I'll let you know for sure tonight.
I'm laughing so hard right now.
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you won't be laughing when he makes you swim in your own blood
Cyclone
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Yeah that's my PSN. Also, glad I can make you laugh Ival.
Ekaru
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Played through Labrys's story earlier. It's very sad.
rust45
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Ekaru wrote:

Played through Labrys's story earlier. It's very sad.
Tell me about it. I think the worst part was when she got the voice file of her mother.
Cyclone
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Mafia, we should play tonight. Also if anybody else wants in and has psn. I need to fail as labrys more.
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Sure, just shoot me a message on the PSN whenever you want.
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Cyclone wrote:

Mafia, we should play tonight. Also if anybody else wants in and has psn. I need to fail as labrys more.
I guarantee you that I fail as Chie more, since I haven't played fighting games much. ;P At least I know a few combos now, though. PSN: PreyingShark
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Well thanks to mafia and ival i've figured out some things with labrys. a fun night of p4a to be certain. Ekaru, you should have caught me on IRC to join in. I'll let you know when we're playing again though.
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I would complain about my losses, but I literally hate fighting against every single character in this game as Naoto for wildly different reasons. Which is dreadful because I really enjoy playing Naoto.
rust45
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What do you hate when fighting other characters? Really the only ones I can't stand as Naoto are Mitsuru (Massive range) and Yukiko (always seem to outzone me) Everyone else I'm fine with going against.
Cyclone
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Well, I was playing labrys, and labrys hurts. Take into account naoto only has 8000 health.... Also take into account her long range normal attacks.
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Oh, well let's see.

Labrys: Has ridiculous reach on j.b meaning I can't really approach safely, easily outranges my melee normals.
Mitsuru: Same ridiculous reach, just a lot more combo heavy
Aigis: Orgia Mode is disgusting. Thankfully I don't fight many Aigises.
Yukiko: Dia is projectile immune so forced to stay within double fangs range. j. D doesn't even work against Dia. Also, maragi combos and unblockable fire. Traps are of limited use vs zoners.
Narukami: Still 100% free to raging lion and swift strike. Also the whole persona mixup shit is frightening still. Easily maneuvers around gunshot angles.
Elizabeth: Thanatos combos. Magarudyne is projectile immune. Traps aren't much use here either.
Yosuke: EX run and moonsault->crescent slash. Sukukaja is just bad news.
Chie: Rushdown too strong for my trivial defense fundamentals.
Kanji: Probably the least troublesome but takes forever and 2 mistakes is generally enough to lose.
Teddie: I haven't actually fought many teddies, but I know what they're capable of. Stack of tv's, range on baseball bat, item drops, teleporting DP, rage effects, etc
Akihiko: j. C
Shadow Labrys: Can't zone due to persona's guard so forced to rushdown without the life lead. Also has some really nasty setups and still has j. b.

At the end of the day, it's mostly the fault of my poor defense but I don't exactly have a lot of health to afford making mistakes.
Ekaru
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Cyclone wrote:

Well thanks to mafia and ival i've figured out some things with labrys. a fun night of p4a to be certain. Ekaru, you should have caught me on IRC to join in. I'll let you know when we're playing again though.
Okay! I guess I'll have an IRC client logged into #videogames at all times, then.

@Ivalset: Your list is pretty accurate for me, even though we play entirely different characters. <_<;
xerxes_oli
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OMG OMG Have you seen the preorder gift with persona 4 golden?!?! ITS A SUPER AWESOME SKIN FOR THE VITA!
Drakari_old
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xerxes_oli wrote:

OMG OMG Have you seen the preorder gift with persona 4 golden?!?! ITS A SUPER AWESOME SKIN FOR THE VITA!
Seriously? At what stores?
bmin11
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Bumping this because Persona 5. See you guys again next year.
Derekku
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That's only one of the FOUR game announcements!





Ivalset
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P4D is surprisingly hype, PQ is a little disappointing due to artstyle/lack of FeMC but still exciting, Arena update is going to be cool, and P5 is kind of whatever since everyone already knew work was being done on it and we still haven't seen a goddamn thing yet.
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Ivalset wrote:

P4D is surprisingly hype, PQ is a little disappointing due to artstyle/lack of FeMC but still exciting, Arena update is going to be cool, and P5 is kind of whatever since everyone already knew work was being done on it and we still haven't seen a goddamn thing yet.
I for one am very hype about PQ, due to it being done by the Etrian Odyssey team. (that's where the artstyle comes from)
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Cyclone wrote:

being done by the Etrian Odyssey team.
ooooooh

I'm also super hyped about PQ (especially since it'll be on the 3DS)
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Yeah, PQ is just the thing to look forward to after my first playthrough of 4/Golden. I'm late to the party, but yeah. I always am.
Norbi
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Persona 5 is hype. I guess it's time to get myself a PS3...
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What's P4D? Didn't read anything about that.
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Remco32 wrote:

What's P4D? Didn't read anything about that.
Project Diva with Persona songs
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P4D is ridiculous. I both want to destroy and want to own it.

Despite the lack of actual info on 5, though, that trailer has got me hyped. Pretty eerie.
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NoHitter wrote:

Remco32 wrote:

What's P4D? Didn't read anything about that.
Project Diva with Persona songs
I really really like Meguro's music, but I'm not sure if I could stomach such a game.
bmin11
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P4Ds story is part of the main story like P4A, so that by itself means something.

Gah, I really need to get my 3DS.
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bmin11 wrote:

P4Ds story is part of the main story like P4A, so that by itself means something.

Gah, I really need to get my 3DS.
P4A tied into the Persona 4 story?

Aw, dammit
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I'm guiltily looking forward to P4D mostly because I own a Vita and enjoy Rhythm games.

awp wrote:

P4A tied into the Persona 4 story?

Aw, dammit
Apparently takes place a few months after Persona 4.
And possibly the fighting game with the biggest story mode.
It has a shit ton of dialogue, not to mention they're all voiced too.
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