ZUN - Higan Retour ~ Riverside View [Osu|Taiko] · forum

BCI

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 19 ноября 2012 г. at 14:35:45

Artist: ZUN
Title: Higan Retour ~ Riverside View
Source: Touhou
Tags: BCI Leyko DarkDunskin wowshakhov Byakugan249 phantasmagoria of flower view komachi onozuka PoFV
BPM: 155
Filesize: 6871kb
Play Time: 02:42
Difficulties Available:

249's Easy (2,12 stars, 178 notes)
Dunskin's Taiko Oni (4,83 stars, 1020 notes)
Hard (4,81 stars, 359 notes)
Leyko's Lunatic (5 stars, 594 notes)
wow's Normal (3,72 stars, 235 notes)

Download: ZUN - Higan Retour ~ Riverside View
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
2nd beatmap :3/

moar ZUN maps!

Easy - done by Byakugan249
Normal - done by wowshakhov
Hard - done
Taiko Oni - done by DarkDunskin
Lunatic - done by Leyko

comboburst taken from this map | combobreak taken from Cyclone's Touhou skin | mp3 cropped by -Bakari- - thank you all

Last edited by BCI 12 years ago, edited 87 times in total.

jesse7419

405 posts

Joined March 2011

jesse7419 13 years ago

Hi

random mod WIP

Timing : offset fix to 1740 is better ~

nice map~
Good Luck

DarkDunskin

1,875 posts

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DarkDunskin 13 years ago

I'd map a Taiko for you if you need one~

Just don't understand why you say this is a Cut Ver. ?
This sounds very like the Full Version to me o.0

BCI

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BCI 13 years ago

DarkDunskin wrote:
I'd map a Taiko for you if you need one~ Go for it ^^

Just don't understand why you say this is a Cut Ver. ?
This sounds very like the Full Version to me o.0 I have full ver from Mikumiku97's beatmap but she delete it. Full ver over 5 min, and this track was cutted by -Bakari- If you don't believe me ask for him or I may give you a full ver. until 17 July lol

DarkDunskin

1,875 posts

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DarkDunskin 13 years ago

A bit late, but I finally finished my Guest diff for you:

Guest Diff + BG

I'm pretty sure this is the complete song. I know the 5 min Track you mean.
In the second half the song just starts again and repeats itself because it was looped.
That means you just mapped the complete song, so you can remove the "(Cut Ver.) from the Maps Title. ^^

BCI

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BCI 13 years ago

thanks for gust diff ^^ i will update this + new title later when i go home lol

palinus

133 posts

Joined December 2009

palinus 13 years ago

palinus mod queue

[Hard]

00:35:804 (1,2) - make 1 more round around 2
00:37:546 (4) - start point to x:144 y:120, end point to x:184 y:160
00:44:901 (9) - move slider 2 grid points to the right
01:02:901 (4) - ^ 1 point to the right
01:19:546 (3) - slider position x:136 y:252
01:30:385 (2,3,4) - make 2, 3 more symetric to 4? (rotate 2, 3 by 7 degrees)
01:32:901 (7,8,1) - move those 3 together to x:192 y:164 should look like this
01:48:191 (3,1) - I suggest you turn it into a slider instead
01:52:256 (5,6) - - what?
02:11:998 (1,2,3) - move 2 so it fits better between 1 and 3
02:30:191 (2) - move to x:364 y:244

[Leyko's Lunatic]

00:02:320 (2,3,4,5) - move them all 1 grid point to the left

EDIT: accidently typo'd a time setting now fixed

BCI

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BCI 13 years ago

all fixed by me, thanks~

Melan Blue

321 posts

Joined October 2009

Melan Blue 13 years ago

Fixed. Thanks~

[HitObjects]
256,56,1740,2,0,B|320:64|344:144|424:144,1,190,4|2
416,240,2320,1,0
380,328,2514,1,2
288,348,2707,1,0
272,348,2804,1,0

Roxas

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Roxas 13 years ago

Hi from Riki's and Roxas' queue

[Hard]

AR-1?
00:38:514 - I don't like this part empty, maybe add a circle..
01:23:223 (6) - Add whistle (only end slider)
01:44:320 - Here too, maybe add a circle..

[Leyko's Lunatic]

00:41:223 (3,4) - I think it's unrankable (repeat: I think..)

Good job with hitsounds and I like patterns, so starred!

Melan Blue

321 posts

Joined October 2009

Melan Blue 13 years ago

No change for now. I'll wait until someone else points it out.

wowshakhov

262 posts

Joined June 2010

wowshakhov 13 years ago

dekimashita!~
Нормал

YTYuyu

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YTYuyu 13 years ago

so yea here you go. also no kd for this post, but there's 2 osb files in the folder. delete 1 of them and do a full submission, and consider adding "PoFV" in the tags since that's what the game stands for in short. also can you use this BG for my diff only?

SPOILER

osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: Komachis Theme - Higan Retour ~ Riverside View.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 116020
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 76062
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Higan Retour ~ Riverside View
Artist:ZUN
Creator:Black_Cherry_Ita
Version:249's Easy
Source:Touhou
Tags:BCI Leyko DarkDunskin wowshakhov phantasmagoria of flower view komachi onozuka

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Onozuka.Komachi.full.69876.jpg"
//Break Periods
2,66972,74622
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
1740,387.096774193548,4,2,1,70,1,0
28352,-100,4,2,1,90,0,0
28498,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
29610,-100,4,2,1,70,0,1
29804,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
32901,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
33288,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
33675,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
41998,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1
42191,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
85352,-100,4,2,1,70,0,1
85546,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
116320,-100,4,2,1,40,0,1
116514,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
141094,-100,4,2,1,50,0,1
141288,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
163546,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
164320,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
165094,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0


[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,0,128
Combo2 : 254,104,48
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 0,128,255

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BCI

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Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

so perfect bg T^T i want to use them in all diffs D: but yeah, added and fixed the files! pending!

riffy

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riffy 13 years ago

~~россия для русских~~

[General]
киаи разные.
а еще некоторые анснапнуты
finishes in the start part sounds a bit too loud, imo

[249's Easy]
00:33:869 (4) - add reverse for this slider fits with music much better, imo
00:50:514 (2,1) - i think it's a bad idea to stack slider-ends. confusing for beginners.this is Easiest diff ;_;

[wow's Normal]
АР + 1 или +2 нормалы не для слоупоков! http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Normal лучше хотя бы 4
00:04:643 (2) - cпэйсинг
00:22:643 (3,1,2) - cложновать для нормала
00:59:030 (1,2) - ^
01:56:320 (1) - нет нк. это баг. (анранкбл)
01:56:320 (1,2) - оверлап с тем, что остается после спиннера :3
02:35:030 (1,2) - nazi: стак

[Hard]
01:30:772 (3,5) - стак

[Leyko's Lunatic]
clean ;_;

~~~~~~~~~

well mapped :3/

BCI

1,081 posts

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Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

@Leyko - одну секцию я снапнула у тебя
guest diss can have different kiai~ thank you, fixed for me!

riffy

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riffy 13 years ago

i mean unsnap-problems.

BCI

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Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

but 249's diff have only kiai-fontains :о

YTYuyu

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YTYuyu 13 years ago

-Bakari- wrote:
[249's Easy]
00:33:869 (4) - add reverse for this slider fits with music much better, imo no i feel that the repeat slider would surprise beginners for this.
00:50:514 (2,1) - i think it's a bad idea to stack slider-ends. confusing for beginners.this is Easiest diff ;_; it's fine. as long as beginners can hold this till the end and realize where the end of this slider is, then it's fine.

well mapped :3/

no changes made but ty for the mod.

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 13 years ago

Hereeeess a mod :3333

249's Easy
00:43:933 (2) - I think it sounds (somehow) better if you remove the circle here
02:42:385 (4) - How about stacking this under (3)? :3
I love the hitsounding in this diff~

wow's Normal
00:15:675 (1) - two grids up? c:
00:59:030 (1) - ugly slider, fix it
hmm, i dont like this diff alot because of the whistle variation between soft and normal :/

Hard
00:35:803 (1) - ugly slider :<
00:41:803 - this green line is kind of useless right?
01:42:578 (4,5,6) - maybe stack

Leyko's Lunatic
THIS DIFF IS AWESOME.

good luck o3o

Last edited by SkyDevil 13 years ago, edited 4 times in total.

YTYuyu

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YTYuyu 13 years ago

SkyDevil wrote:
Hereeeess a mod :3333

249's Easy
00:43:933 (2) - I think it sounds (somehow) better if you remove the circle here if i do that, the flow would be gone for this part.
02:42:385 (4) - How about stacking this under (3)? :3 no way. i don't like to stack when i map easy diffs. i'd consider it too hard for beginners to do.
I love the hitsounding in this diff~ why ty :3. i want to change up the way i use my hitsounds after all

no changes made but ty for the mod.

IchiGUN

778 posts

Joined July 2010

IchiGUN 13 years ago

А вот и я

General
● Вроде ок

===========================

249's Easy

>Settings

● Good

>Mapping

● 00:51:288 (1) - a little not smooth slider, just move this point as in picture 2 grid down and 1 grid left

>Hitsounds

● Good
___________________
Nice Easy diff's Good work

===========================

wow's Normal

>Settings

● Просто необходимо сделать кругляши поменьше CS + 1, сложности добавит 3 сотых, а эффект на миллион!

>Mapping

● 00:04:643 (2) - я конечно всё понимаю, красивости и тд...но скачущий дистанс в нормале не есть гуд = = да и во всем начале он от 0,8 до 1,4 прыгает, поэтому смотрится слегка сумбурно
● 00:22:643 (3) - стакни чтоб всё красиво попало под конец 00:23:417 (1) и начало 00:24:191 (2)
● 00:59:030 (1) - форму бы по удачнее ><
● 01:35:804 (2) - дистанция 0,74

>Hitsounds

● Good
___________________
Хммм...по прохождению проблем нет, ss со всякими модами не вопрос...но вот красивости не хватает

===========================

Hard

>Settings

● Good

>Mapping

● 00:42:191 (2,3) - можно сделать слайды более ровными и расположить по центру...по мне, так будет кашернее ^^
● 00:55:933 (4) - подними на y:281, или опусти 00:55:352 (3)...симметрия в общем :3
● 01:42:578 (6,7,8) - понравился этот триплет, может стоит добавить пару в первую часть мапы?
● 01:43:740 (3) - поднять на y:110, снова симметрия.
● 02:36:772 (1,2,3,4) - возможно также стоит разместить по центру.

● 00:50:320 (2) - ну если сильно придираться, по мапке есть такие места где спейсинг немного скачет...и смотрится не очень.
>Hitsounds

● Good
___________________
В целом всё понравилось.

===========================

Leykos's Lunatic

>Settings

● Good

>Mapping

● 00:41:610 (4) - ноту очень тяжело заметить, может стоит убрать вовсе?
● 01:55:933 (4) - ^
● 01:24:288 (4,5) - стак на x:256 y:152
● 02:14:901 (1,2) - может стоит изменить форму слайдера и сделать отображение 02:16:449 (1,2) ?

>Hitsounds

● Good
___________________
Эта дифка понравилась больше всех :3 вот так

Ну вот пожалуй и всё, коротко и немножко нази...

BCI

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Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

all fixed by me, i'll upload when finish my hitsounds D%

Melan Blue

321 posts

Joined October 2009

Melan Blue 13 years ago

IchiGUN wrote:
● 02:14:901 (1,2) - может стоит изменить форму слайдера и сделать отображение 02:16:449 (1,2) ? Не совсем поняла, что ты имеешь в виду, но все равно исправила

Остальное тоже исправлено. Большое спасибо за мод!

http://puu.sh/NX4p

YTYuyu

osu! Alumni

4,148 posts

Joined January 2011

YTYuyu 13 years ago

fixed that heart slider, and made a lot of self changes to the hitsounds. ty for the mod

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Creator:Black_Cherry_Ita
Version:249's Easy
Source:Touhou
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Leorda

4,416 posts

Joined June 2009

Leorda 13 years ago

Yo

[249's Easy]
00:29:610 (1) - Remove clap at tail slider and add whistle at tail slider?
00:31:159 (2) - ^
00:55:159 (2) - New combo for you combo pattern?
01:44:707 (1) - Remove clap and add whistle
01:47:030 (1) - ^
01:50:901 (2) - Remove clap at tail slider and add whistle at tail slider?
01:51:675 (3) - ^
02:09:481 (1) - Don't put the center of spinner. I'll overlapped by hitbursts and it's hidden for beginners

[wow's Normal]
* AR +1?

00:12:191 (2) - It is just me or this spacing is 0,80x and spacing different compare with others?
00:31:933 (5) - Add whistle
00:59:030 (1) - Add whistle at sliderbody?
02:21:094 (1) - Too far from spinner, it could be can't reach to this object while gameplay for beginners

[Hard]
00:28:256 (3,6) - Using custom clap for this is better....
01:23:804 (1,5) - ^
01:40:836 (5) - Move to X:364 and Y:196 for better flow? (Nazi)

[Leyko's Lunatic]
00:18:772 (3) - New combo?
00:40:449 (1,2,3) - These pattern will mess the visibility of gameplay while players are play this diff. I suggest you to unstack it
01:42:772 (6) - New combo?
01:54:772 (1,2,3,4) - Same issue as 00:40:449 (1,2,3)

Koma-chan~

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

about claps, i re-made the hitsounds and the claps are already here. fixed nazi stuff, thanks~
EDIT: @guest diff-makers, please reupload your diffs, changed the metronome ^ o ^

YTYuyu

osu! Alumni

4,148 posts

Joined January 2011

YTYuyu 13 years ago

Leorda wrote:
Yo

[249's Easy]
00:29:610 (1) - Remove clap at tail slider and add whistle at tail slider? no i feel that the whistle and the finish sound the same in hitsounding, so adding a whistle would sound weird for me since it's like a soft version of the finish.
00:31:159 (2) - ^ not here because the instrumental when it hits the repeat and the end sound the same here, so adding claps would fit here for me.
00:55:159 (2) - New combo for you combo pattern? already did on my self mod.
01:44:707 (1) - Remove clap and add whistle ^
01:47:030 (1) - ^ ^
01:50:901 (2) - Remove clap at tail slider and add whistle at tail slider? alright i guess it sounds bad...
01:51:675 (3) - ^ ^
02:09:481 (1) - Don't put the center of spinner. I'll overlapped by hitbursts and it's hidden for beginners moved it somewhere else.

Koma-chan~

Ty for the mod Leo-san

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304,88,88449,1,2
376,120,88836,2,0,B|412:152|396:200,2,80,8|2|2
312,172,89998,6,0,B|304:268|416:288,1,160,4|2
356,352,91159,1,8
284,320,91546,1,2
244,252,91933,1,2
212,180,92320,6,0,B|192:136|132:120,2,80,8|2|2
156,236,93481,2,0,B|80:204|60:104,1,160,8|2
116,56,94643,6,0,B|148:32|204:36,1,80,4|2
268,52,95417,1,2
288,128,95804,1,8
228,184,96191,2,0,B|196:208|140:204,1,80,2|2
136,284,96965,5,8
216,292,97352,1,2
284,248,97739,1,2
344,196,98127,2,0,B|380:172|380:116,2,80,8|2|2
300,128,99288,5,4
236,80,99675,1,2
156,80,100062,1,2
112,148,100449,2,0,B|80:184|100:232,2,80,8|2|2
256,192,101610,12,4,103933
304,256,104707,5,2
144,256,105481,2,8,B|96:240|64:196,2,80,2|8|8
212,112,107029,5,2
284,76,107417,1,8
356,112,107804,1,8
388,184,108191,2,0,B|388:256,1,40,2|2
284,284,108965,2,0,B|248:308|200:304,1,80,2|2
96,192,110127,5,4
228,100,110901,2,0,B|272:88|324:120,1,80,2|2
360,168,111675,2,0,B|400:220|376:288,1,120,2|2
264,320,112836,1,8
184,320,113223,6,0,B|136:312|108:272,2,80,2|2|2
184,240,114385,1,2
256,192,114578,12,4,116320
336,236,117094,5,2
176,236,117869,1,8
256,96,118643,2,0,B|256:188,1,80,2|8
256,256,119417,6,0,B|268:356|420:356|420:240,1,240,2|2
380,184,120965,1,2
340,116,121352,1,8
268,80,121739,1,2
188,80,122127,1,8
124,132,122514,6,0,B|76:208|144:296,2,160,4|8|2
268,200,124836,2,0,B|156:200,1,80,8|2
256,192,125610,12,4,128707
336,232,129481,5,2
176,232,130256,1,8
260,96,131030,1,2
340,96,131417,1,8
420,112,131804,6,0,B|464:136|456:192,2,80,2|8|2
376,180,132965,1,8
416,248,133352,2,0,B|360:320|280:252|280:252|200:176|120:284,1,320,2|4
272,352,135675,5,8
432,352,136449,2,0,B|496:292|476:192,1,160,2|8
456,128,137610,1,2
256,192,137998,12,4,141094
176,248,141869,6,0,B|256:284|352:240,1,160,2|2
256,108,143417,2,0,B|256:204,1,80,2|2
180,168,144191,2,0,B|92:168|40:72,2,160,2|2|2
256,148,146127,5,8
336,152,146514,1,2
384,216,146901,1,8
336,280,147288,6,0,B|256:324|176:296,2,160,4|2|2
376,124,149610,1,2
312,76,149998,1,2
256,192,150385,12,4,153481
176,268,154256,6,0,B|256:236|348:268,1,160,2|2
256,124,155804,2,0,B|256:24,1,80,2|2
176,48,156578,6,0,B|144:80|156:132,2,80,2|8|2
256,44,157739,1,8
336,40,158127,2,0,B|428:80|368:168|368:168|312:256|424:320,1,320,2|4
252,248,160449,5,2
100,200,161223,1,2
192,68,161998,1,2
268,96,162385,1,2
256,192,162772,12,0,165869

Melan Blue

321 posts

Joined October 2009

Melan Blue 13 years ago

All fixed, thanks Leorda

http://puu.sh/Oet6

Кстати, osb надо удалить (если он еще не удален).

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

у меня его в папке нет

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

3,471 posts

Joined July 2011

Flask 13 years ago

Request from forum-PM

[General]

Why add "249" in tags? I search it but can't find any 249's rank GD so remove.
Inconsistency Combo Colors
Inconsistency Kiai Time
Maybe Audio Lead-In 2000? (just saying)

[249]

00:04:062 (1) - The last tick move up 1 gird? Better imo.
00:51:288 (1,1) - this should be like this. what you make is so near.
01:25:352 (1) - why nc ?
02:21:869 (1) - Maybe the second tick move down 2 girds?
Awesome :O

[wow]

00:14:127 (2) - Ctrl+J then move back?
01:48:191 (4) - Why here's a N whistle?
02:35:804 (2) - The end not stack with (1) end. Stack them
wow

[BCI]

CS5?COOOOOOOL

00:35:803 (1) - try this. http://puu.sh/OkX8

268,280,35803,6,0,B|228:304|188:300|148:276|132:236,1,140

00:42:578 (3) - move left 1 gird
01:21:869 (3) - finish?
01:23:804 (1) - ^ (end)
O:

[Leyko]

00:24:578 (12) - A little bit touch HP Bar, it's okay anyway.
00:42:772 (3,4,5,6) - Check the spacing.
O:

Hope my mod gonna be useful x_x
So cool this map <3 very-very-very good :3!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck you~Star~

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

Flask wrote:
[General]
Why add "249" in tags? I search it but can't find any 249's rank GD so remove. when i want to search any gd with byakugan i'll remember only 249 and try to search. i don't find anything, so i think keep it
Inconsistency Combo Colors because BGs is different
Inconsistency Kiai Time guest diffs may have different kiai
Maybe Audio Lead-In 2000? (just saying) mm, good idea~ changed in all diffs, @GD-makers, before you start to fix, please reupload and sorry D:

other fixed by me, thanks for star ^ o ^~

WVS

547 posts

Joined May 2012

WVS 13 years ago

^^~

Just a Suggestion
Recommended
Unrankable issues/must fix.

[249's Easy]

Clear.

[wow's Normal]

Too quiet, try increase the hitsound's volume by 10%?

00:56:707 (2) - Whistle
00:59:030 (1) - Add whistle on the head + the body so it follows the trumpet sound
01:02:901 (1) - Whistle
02:04:836 (2) - Whistle
02:23:417 (2) - add Whistle on the Head

[Hard]

AR -1?
Other than that, pretty cool.

Leyko's Lunatic

Move the green Line of 41222 to 4835 and add a new green line with 60% volume on 41222.
01:54:771 (1) - same like ^, just different placing of green line.
Other than that, awesome!

Goodluck, BCI~ (:

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

WVS wrote:
4835

40835*

fixed lol, thanks~

Ra-s

1,289 posts

Joined May 2009

Ra-s 13 years ago

Higan Retour <3

[General]
nothing

[249]
00:40:255 (1) - start at 00:40:448?
01:54:578 (1) - ^
00:45:094 (1) - how about this slider?

SPOILER

272,24,45094,6,0,B|216:20|176:84|204:140,1,160,8|2

00:55:159 (1) - ^

SPOILER

232,260,55159,6,0,B|152:216|140:132,1,160,2|8

01:28:062 (2) - 2 grid up? (lv4)

[wow]
00:21:481 (2) - how about move to x:20 y:144?
00:44:320 (2) - whistle?
00:50:514 (2) - ^ and 00:56:707 (2) - too...If you accepted this suggestion, you should add whistle other similar parts.
01:45:869 (2,3) - move to x:404 y:256 / x:424 y:364
02:35:804 (2) - stack with 02:35:030 (1) -

[Duskin]

SPOILER

my replay data

http://puu.sh/OpOL
good!!

[Black Cherry Ita]
nice blanket!
00:07:352 (5) - move to x:308 y:228?
00:25:159 (1,3) - move to x:288 y:72 / x:220 y:200?
00:25:546 (2,1) - move to x:256 y:136?
02:12:772 (3) - move to x:360 y:48?

[Leyko]
I'm not good at modding symmetry patterns beacause this diff has a perfect symmetry so I think faultless

GL

Kokatsu

504 posts

Joined August 2011

Kokatsu 13 years ago

Okay, as requested via forum-PM.

There will be spoilerboxes for each difficulty, including my first try results when playing the current map, along with the replay for you to check out my mistakes and a comment on how i felt while/after playing the map. Please make sure to check those boxes so you can understand what I am trying to focus on in my mod! I used the "osu!-default" Skin in all maps, make sure to use that skin aswell when watching the replay!

General

If you use Byakugan249 and 249 as tags, why not Byakugan aswell?
Decrease the difficultygap between Normal and Hard (See: Hard-mod)
00:01:740 - 01:06:771 - These parts seem to be 4/4 to me, since the drums go for a straight 2/4 snare, which would be against a 3/4 rhythm. Maybe the beginning till drums start (untill 00:11:030) could be 3/4, but the rest is clearly 4/4.

249's Easy

Firsttry results, replay and a short comment

Playsyle: Mouse only

Download the Replay here!

Yea, it was a nice diff. I thought the note-density was a bit high for an Easy and there were some blankets I mentioned but nothing really bad.

AR-1, the map is so slow that the "relatively" high AR just feels weird. It's also nice if new players can see more of the notes "awaiting" them.
00:04:062 (1,2) - I would drag (1)'s 2cnd waypoint 1grid up and right to create a better blanket with the previous (3). Since (2) is a mirror, fix that corrospondingly
00:11:030 (1,2) - This blanket could look nicer.
00:14:514 (3,1) - ^
00:19:159 (3,1) - ^
00:28:449 (4) - the whistle here sounds just a bit weak. try a finish or clap here, both sound nice IMO.
00:37:739 (4,5,1) - the spacing from (5) to (1) looks awkward if compared to the one from (4,5)
00:40:448 (1) - I like the spinner one tick later, you won't catch the music's note on 00:40:255 then however. :/
00:50:514 (2,1) - this might be a bit confusing to new players. I suggest you to create a neat overlap between (2) and (1)'s ending to get this clear. Something like this would be fine

00:55:159 (1) - 2cnd waypoint at 144|204 creates a more-fitting gap to the prev. slider IMO
00:59:030 (3) - Since you only use 1-reverse sliders on the map, this is very irritating for new players which might not have that good reactions to keep the slider that last tick. Remove one reverse and add a note instead?
01:53:223 (1,2) - Blanket could be better

01:54:578 (1) - again, I prefer that spinner one tick later.
02:37:739 (2) - under prev. (2)'s hitburst, consider moving it.

wow's Normal

Firsttry results, replay and a short comment

Playstyle: Mouse only

Download the Replay here!

Again, nice diff. Also not much to say. ><

00:20:320 (1) - Move the whole slider 1-2grids down to create some distance to the following one?
00:37:352 (3,4,5) - This stack is a bit hard to read for new players IMO
00:42:772 (2) - more or less IN the hitburst of the spinner. D:
00:47:030 (2) - under prev. (2)'s hitburst.
01:25:352 (1,2) - I dislike the fact that (2)'s head is barely under (1)'s slidertail, would be nice if you can fix that. :3
01:38:514 (3,4) - under prev. hitbursts, but I guess they are fine
01:48:578 (1,2,3) - under prev. (1)'s hitburst. I also dislike the stack
02:00:578 (4) - under pre-prev. (2)'s hitburst
02:38:514 (2) - under pre-prev. (1)'s hitburst

Hard

Firsttry results, replay and a short comment

Playstyle: Mouse + Keyboard

Download the Replay here!

Uh, I was kinda shocked of the epic difficultygap between normal and hard, mostly because of the small circles . The diff itself is fine, however, there are some patterns which are more or less hard to read.

CS-1 !! This is crucial to get the gap between Normal and Hard and aswell because Hard would have smaller hitcircles than Lunatic, which would be..weird..
I also find OD-1 more fitting.
00:19:352 (4) - I found that note very hard to read, since the purple sliders around with the same colour as the approachcircle and the fact that it is hidden under the prev. (2)'s hitburst made it almost invisible.
00:21:675 (4) - ^
00:57:288 (7) - also hard to read. mostly because of hitburst
01:21:869 (3) - is there a whistle missing on the slider's head? It feeld quiet empty without that.
01:42:385 (5,6,7,8) - much better with an additional note between (5,6). Stack them all on one spot then. Was quiet hard to read too.
01:56:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - that was just a pain in the ass. Try to find a better solution with less hitburst-covers.
02:41:804 (6,8) - you know what. :3

Leyko's Lunatic

Firsttry results, replay and a short comment

Playstyle: Tablet + Keyboard

Download the Replay here!

If you watch the replay with the defaultskin, you will mention that there are some patterns which are really just too hard to read for the overall difficulty of this diff, which bugged me, since the map itself was really nice.

00:18:772 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I really thought that the second stream would be 1/2 later. Highly recommend you to decrease the distance between those streams by a bit, to get the idea of the small jump.
00:57:869 (2,3,4,5,6) - Found that kinda hard to play, compared to the rest of the map.
01:43:933 (1) - you also spaced the object following the streams that use this style like they would be part of it (in other words: the object after this kind of stream was on a slightly higher spacing). I would like you to add this here 2
02:21:094 (1) - ^
02:30:385 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - since (5) is 1/1 from (4), the continue of the combo is very irritating. I'd like to see ND on 5 and remove NC from following (1)

Dunskin's Taiko Oni

Firsttry results, replay and a short comment

Playstyle: kkdd Taikosettings

Download the Replay here!

I LOVE DUNSKIN Q__Q Bit too tired for FC, sorry for that q__q However, nice and simple Taiko, one part bugged me while playing but you'll see that in the mod itself. :3

00:29:610 - remove that kiaiflash pls <__< bad Dunski!
01:26:126 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - I found that really unfitting. kdd ddk kdd ddk or kdd kdk kdd kdk or anything close to that fits more.
02:42:965 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44) - replace by spinner? If not, atleast remove (43,44), I hate them

God, not much to find here. Or I'm just too tired. ><

Nice map, take my star and good luck with ranking. ;3

Kanari

1,311 posts

Joined June 2011

Kanari 13 years ago

Haii ~
You requested via forum-pm ~

[249's Easy]
* Nazi stuff * ;w;
00:06:385 (1) - Place in the middle of 00:04:062 (1,2) ?
00:12:191 (2) - Move it a bit to the left.
00:20:320 (1) - Move a bit to the right ~
00:50:514 (2) - This moves a bit, stack properly ~
00:55:159 (1) - Middle point move left a bit.
01:29:998 (1) - Move down a bit.

[wow's Normal]
02:35:804 (2) - Stack slider end.

[Hard]
- Circle Size 4 instead ? owo ~

[Leyko's Lunatic]
- HP Drain Rate +1
- Overall Difficulty +1

All you mappers so pro! ><
Sorry for my poor mod. ;w;
Good luck and star!

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

@Ra-s fixed all by me, thanks~
@Kokatsu:

Kokatsu wrote:
General

If you use Byakugan249 and 249 as tags, why not Byakugan aswell? meh i delete 249, Flask was right \:D/
Decrease the difficultygap between Normal and Hard (See: Hard-mod) gonna discuss it with wowshakhov
00:01:740 - 01:06:771 - These parts seem to be 4/4 to me, since the drums go for a straight 2/4 snare, which would be against a 3/4 rhythm. Maybe the beginning till drums start (untill 00:11:030) could be 3/4, but the rest is clearly 4/4. I'll ask for a timing check, but I guess 3/4 is fine

Hard
lol, you're so pro V

Firsttry results, replay and a short comment
Playstyle: Mouse + Keyboard

Download the Replay here!

Uh, I was kinda shocked of the epic difficultygap between normal and hard, mostly because of the small circles . The diff itself is fine, however, there are some patterns which are more or less hard to read.

CS-1 !! This is crucial to get the gap between Normal and Hard and aswell because Hard would have smaller hitcircles than Lunatic, which would be..weird..
I also find OD-1 more fitting. Od fixed, but not CS. if i change CS i'm gonna remap ALL so not. also idk atm what accept a Lunatic diff \:D/
00:19:352 (4) - I found that note very hard to read, since the purple sliders around with the same colour as the approachcircle and the fact that it is hidden under the prev. (2)'s hitburst made it almost invisible. moved somewhere else
00:21:675 (4) - ^ ^
00:57:288 (7) - also hard to read. mostly because of hitburst ^
01:21:869 (3) - is there a whistle missing on the slider's head? It feeld quiet empty without that. added
01:42:385 (5,6,7,8) - much better with an additional note between (5,6). Stack them all on one spot then. Was quiet hard to read too. fixed in another way (a bit misunderstood about your suggest ;^;)
01:56:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - that was just a pain in the ass. Try to find a better solution with less hitburst-covers. remapped
02:41:804 (6,8) - you know what. :3 you too

@xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx:

Me wrote:
if i change CS i'm gonna remap ALL so not.

lol reupload diffs again @GD-makers, delete the tag sorry-ssorry ;_;

YTYuyu

osu! Alumni

4,148 posts

Joined January 2011

YTYuyu 13 years ago

Ra-s wrote:
Higan Retour <3

[249]
00:40:255 (1) - start at 00:40:448? no this is supposed to follow up from the previous circle which was following the trumpet, and then the drumroll.
01:54:578 (1) - ^ ^
00:45:094 (1) - how about this slider?
SPOILER
272,24,45094,6,0,B|216:20|176:84|204:140,1,160,8|2
00:55:159 (1) - ^
SPOILER
232,260,55159,6,0,B|152:216|140:132,1,160,2|8
fixed both.
01:28:062 (2) - 2 grid up? (lv4) no i don't see a difference in this at all.

GL

Kokatsu wrote:
Okay, as requested via forum-PM.

249's Easy

AR-1, the map is so slow that the "relatively" high AR just feels weird. It's also nice if new players can see more of the notes "awaiting" them. if i do that, then the flow would be completely gone for this song. i made this AR3 mainly because of the flow.
00:04:062 (1,2) - I would drag (1)'s 2cnd waypoint 1grid up and right to create a better blanket with the previous (3). Since (2) is a mirror, fix that corrospondingly actually i did that because although both sliders are supposed to look the same, the piano changes at this partwhic explains why the 2 sliders aren't the same.
00:11:030 (1,2) - This blanket could look nicer. fixed...i guess...
00:14:514 (3,1) - ^ ^
00:19:159 (3,1) - ^ ^
00:28:449 (4) - the whistle here sounds just a bit weak. try a finish or clap here, both sound nice IMO. no the finish would sound too loud and the clap would ruin the consistency in my hitsound pattern.
00:37:739 (4,5,1) - the spacing from (5) to (1) looks awkward if compared to the one from (4,5) fixed...
00:40:448 (1) - I like the spinner one tick later, you won't catch the music's note on 00:40:255 then however. :/ actually you can. i feel that beginners have a lot of time to get ready to spin if it's at the 1/2 tick. if i move it to the blue tick, then i'd feel i'd be playing this too hard for beginners.
00:50:514 (2,1) - this might be a bit confusing to new players. I suggest you to create a neat overlap between (2) and (1)'s ending to get this clear. Something like this would be fine
no because i find overlaps like that ugly and it makes the map look bad during gameplay. i don't do overlaps like this on easy diffs at all.
00:55:159 (1) - 2cnd waypoint at 144|204 creates a more-fitting gap to the prev. slider IMO i fixed that slider on the previous mod.
00:59:030 (3) - Since you only use 1-reverse sliders on the map, this is very irritating for new players which might not have that good reactions to keep the slider that last tick. Remove one reverse and add a note instead? no if i just add one repeat, it'd feel as if the map is boring. there would be no challenges for beginners at all. if i do what you say, then it'll go back to a straightforward and easy map and i don't want that.
01:53:223 (1,2) - Blanket could be better nope it looks fine here so i'm not changing.
01:54:578 (1) - again, I prefer that spinner one tick later. and read my reply at 00:40:448.
02:37:739 (2) - under prev. (2)'s hitburst, consider moving it. if they mess up, it's their fault. i did this because it's near the end and i don't want to give beginners an easy pass. i also feel that this would be good practice to hitting notes under the hitburst.

God, not much to find here. Or I'm just too tired. ><

Nice map, take my star and good luck with ranking. ;3

ty for the mods and sorry Crystal no changes have been made because i don't like nazi modding and it won't make a difference during gameplay.

SPOILER

osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: Komachis Theme - Higan Retour ~ Riverside View.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 116020
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 76062
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Higan Retour ~ Riverside View
Artist:ZUN
Creator:Black_Cherry_Ita
Version:249's Easy
Source:Touhou
Tags:BCI Leyko DarkDunskin wowshakhov Byakugan249 phantasmagoria of flower view komachi onozuka PoFV

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"249's BG.jpg"
//Break Periods
2,66972,74622
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
1740,387.096774193548,3,2,1,70,1,0
28352,-100,3,2,1,90,0,0
28498,-100,3,2,1,70,0,0
29610,387.096774193548,4,2,1,70,1,1
29804,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
32901,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
33288,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
33675,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
41998,-100,4,2,1,70,0,1
42191,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
66772,387.096774193548,3,2,1,70,1,0
85352,-100,3,2,1,70,0,1
85546,-100,3,2,1,70,0,0
103933,387.096774193548,4,2,1,70,1,0
116320,-100,4,2,1,40,0,1
116514,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
141094,-100,4,2,1,50,0,1
141288,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
163546,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
164320,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
165094,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0


[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,0,128
Combo2 : 254,104,48
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 0,128,255

[HitObjects]
96,96,1740,2,0,B|88:228|216:304,1,240,4|4
284,296,3288,1,2
352,252,3675,1,2
428,232,4062,6,0,B|412:188|360:172,2,80,4|2|2
428,312,5223,2,0,B|416:350|372:366,2,80,4|2|2
360,268,6385,6,0,B|244:260|136:156,2,240,4|4|4
412,208,9094,1,2
448,136,9481,1,4
412,64,9869,1,2
336,92,10256,2,0,B|304:120|252:112,1,80,4|2
180,104,11030,6,0,B|132:112|116:164,2,80,4|8|8
204,180,12191,1,2
176,256,12578,1,8
96,256,12965,1,8
96,336,13352,6,0,B|136:352|204:328,1,80,2|8
248,304,14127,1,8
316,260,14514,2,0,B|360:240|356:184,2,80,2|8|8
276,192,15675,5,4
196,188,16062,2,0,B|196:140|240:120,1,80,8|8
308,96,16836,1,2
388,104,17223,2,0,B|388:152|344:172,1,80,8|8
276,192,17998,6,0,B|276:296,1,80,2|8
240,344,18772,1,8
160,332,19159,2,0,B|116:328|88:272,2,80,2|8|8
172,252,20320,5,4
112,200,20707,1,8
112,120,21094,1,8
184,84,21481,2,0,B|232:84|264:136,2,80,2|8|8
184,164,22643,5,2
256,204,23030,2,0,B|300:196|332:152,1,80,8|8
396,128,23804,2,0,B|436:152|440:204,2,80,2|8|8
344,68,24965,5,4
272,36,25352,2,0,B|228:32|192:64,1,80,8|8
160,128,26127,1,2
200,196,26514,2,0,B|236:224|292:212,1,80,8|8
356,228,27288,5,2
372,308,27675,1,8
304,352,28062,1,8
236,312,28449,1,2
148,88,29610,6,0,B|232:76|316:136,1,160,4|8
152,192,31159,2,0,B|108:192|68:160,2,80,2|8|8
312,184,32707,5,2
280,256,33094,1,8
208,296,33481,1,8
128,300,33869,2,0,B|64:300,1,40,2|2
32,192,34643,2,0,B|32:144|72:100,1,80,8|8
196,36,35804,6,0,B|276:36|364:96,1,160,4|2
396,148,36965,1,8
380,228,37352,1,2
336,296,37739,2,0,B|304:328|236:320,1,80,8|2
196,280,38514,1,8
148,216,38901,6,0,B|112:184|120:124,2,80,2|8|2
200,156,40062,1,8
256,192,40256,12,4,41998
180,256,42772,6,0,B|252:276|352:252,1,160,2|8
392,196,43933,1,0
356,124,44320,1,2
280,104,44707,1,0
268,24,45094,6,0,B|208:16|212:64|168:80|204:152,1,160,8|2
164,208,46256,2,0,B|204:228|256:200,1,80,0|8
304,160,47030,1,2
352,224,47417,1,0
304,288,47804,1,2
228,312,48191,6,0,B|140:312|52:252,2,160,4|2|8
388,296,50514,2,0,B|388:208,1,80,2|0
312,253,51288,6,0,B|316:161|204:217|160:97|248:-7|344:77|344:77|440:-7|520:101|480:217|376:161|388:229,1,640,4|4
232,260,55159,6,0,B|152:216|140:120,1,160,2|8
280,48,56707,2,0,B|300:88|284:128,1,80,2|0
272,204,57481,6,0,B|200:256|116:256,1,160,4|8
56,216,58643,1,2
48,136,59030,2,0,B|88:136|124:168,3,80,8|2|8|2
152,240,60578,6,0,B|205:298|297:294,2,160,4|2|2
116,84,62901,2,0,B|150:71|194:87,1,80,2|2
256,192,63675,12,4,66772
124,176,76062,6,0,B|112:264|192:328,1,160,4|2
260,316,77223,1,8
312,256,77610,1,2
312,176,77998,1,2
256,120,78385,6,0,B|284:88|328:96,1,80,8|2
396,136,79159,1,2
436,204,79546,1,8
436,284,79933,1,2
396,352,80320,1,2
316,352,80707,6,0,B|232:352|180:252,1,160,4|2
172,188,81869,2,0,B|156:148|112:128,2,80,8|2|2
252,188,83030,1,8
332,188,83417,2,0,B|380:188|408:244,2,80,2|2|2
192,268,84965,5,2
116,248,85352,6,0,B|72:224|64:176,2,80,4|2|2
192,268,86514,2,0,B|240:280|280:244,2,80,8|2|2
188,188,87675,5,8
228,120,88062,1,2
304,88,88449,1,2
376,120,88836,2,0,B|412:152|396:200,2,80,8|2|2
312,172,89998,6,0,B|304:268|416:288,1,160,4|2
356,352,91159,1,8
284,320,91546,1,2
244,252,91933,1,2
212,180,92320,6,0,B|192:136|132:120,2,80,8|2|2
156,236,93481,2,0,B|80:204|60:104,1,160,8|2
116,56,94643,6,0,B|148:32|204:36,1,80,4|2
268,52,95417,1,2
288,128,95804,1,8
228,184,96191,2,0,B|196:208|140:204,1,80,2|2
136,284,96965,5,8
216,292,97352,1,2
284,248,97739,1,2
344,196,98127,2,0,B|380:172|380:116,2,80,8|2|2
300,128,99288,5,4
236,80,99675,1,2
156,80,100062,1,2
112,148,100449,2,0,B|80:184|100:232,2,80,8|2|2
256,192,101610,12,4,103933
304,256,104707,5,2
144,256,105481,2,8,B|96:240|64:196,2,80,2|8|8
212,112,107029,5,2
284,76,107417,1,8
356,112,107804,1,8
388,184,108191,2,0,B|388:256,1,40,2|2
284,284,108965,2,0,B|248:308|200:304,1,80,2|2
96,192,110127,5,4
228,100,110901,2,0,B|272:88|324:120,1,80,2|2
360,168,111675,2,0,B|400:220|376:288,1,120,2|2
264,320,112836,1,8
184,320,113223,6,0,B|136:312|108:272,2,80,2|2|2
184,240,114385,1,2
256,192,114578,12,4,116320
336,236,117094,5,2
176,236,117869,1,8
256,96,118643,2,0,B|256:188,1,80,2|8
256,256,119417,6,0,B|268:356|420:356|420:240,1,240,2|2
380,184,120965,1,2
340,116,121352,1,8
268,80,121739,1,2
188,80,122127,1,8
124,132,122514,6,0,B|76:208|144:296,2,160,4|8|2
268,200,124836,2,0,B|156:200,1,80,8|2
256,192,125610,12,4,128707
336,232,129481,5,2
176,232,130256,1,8
260,96,131030,1,2
340,96,131417,1,8
420,112,131804,6,0,B|464:136|456:192,2,80,2|8|2
376,180,132965,1,8
416,248,133352,2,0,B|360:320|280:252|280:252|200:176|120:284,1,320,2|4
272,352,135675,5,8
432,352,136449,2,0,B|496:292|476:192,1,160,2|8
456,128,137610,1,2
256,192,137998,12,4,141094
176,248,141869,6,0,B|256:284|352:240,1,160,2|2
256,108,143417,2,0,B|256:204,1,80,2|2
180,168,144191,2,0,B|92:168|40:72,2,160,2|2|2
256,148,146127,5,8
336,152,146514,1,2
384,216,146901,1,8
336,280,147288,6,0,B|256:324|176:296,2,160,4|2|2
376,124,149610,1,2
312,76,149998,1,2
256,192,150385,12,4,153481
176,268,154256,6,0,B|256:236|348:268,1,160,2|2
256,124,155804,2,0,B|256:24,1,80,2|2
176,48,156578,6,0,B|144:80|156:132,2,80,2|8|2
256,44,157739,1,8
336,40,158127,2,0,B|428:80|368:168|368:168|312:256|424:320,1,320,2|4
252,248,160449,5,2
100,200,161223,1,2
192,68,161998,1,2
268,96,162385,1,2
256,192,162772,12,0,165869

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

lol Byaku are you checked Flask's mod? о,о

YTYuyu

osu! Alumni

4,148 posts

Joined January 2011

YTYuyu 13 years ago

oh whoops let me see...

Flask wrote:
Request from forum-PM

[249]
00:04:062 (1) - The last tick move up 1 gird? Better imo. won't make a difference during gameplay so no.
00:51:288 (1,1) - this should be like this. what you make is so near. fixed on 1 of the other mods.
01:25:352 (1) - why nc ? because the instrumental's volume is starting to rise in this part of the song.
02:21:869 (1) - Maybe the second tick move down 2 girds? again it won't make a difference during gameplay.
Awesome :O

Hope my mod gonna be useful x_x
So cool this map <3 very-very-very good :3!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck you~Star~

yea i checked but no changes have been made. ty for the mod.

NewRulerNA

1,301 posts

Joined December 2010

NewRulerNA 13 years ago

hi

[General]

fine~

[249's Easy]

00:10:256 (5,1,2) - I did not like this flow.
I think this will flow better.
00:14:514 (3,1,2) - relationship of position of (2) is different from (a) and relationship (1) and (3).
00:15:675 (1,2) - move to x:280 y:188
00:55:159 (1) - I do not think this so beautiful.
move to the position of the section x:144 y:208
00:59:030 (3) - Number of different reverse slider may confuse the beginners.

[wow's Normal]

01:32:127 - This inherited section is unnecessary.
01:39:288 (1) - This slider is not symmetric

[Hard]

00:17:610 (6,1) - I do not think this so beautiful.

260,151,17610,2,0,B|239:114|264:72,1,70,8|0
324,116,17998,6,0,B|177:116,1,140,4|8

Try this code

00:41:804 - This inherited section is unnecessary.
02:15:675 (1,2,3) - I feel that this is a mistake.
02:16:062 (3) - 1 grid left (Tiny)

[Leyko's Lunatic]

00:10:643 (3,4,5,6,1) - Does not become a complete linear.
00:11:030 (1) - Move to x:332 y:160 at the end of the slider.
00:31:933 (7,8) - Distance
00:31:933 (7) - 1 grid right (Tiny)
00:41:804 - This inherited section is unnecessary.

gl

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

nyan, fixed all by me, thanks~

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,061 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 13 years ago

/le -Bakari- appears

Leyko wrote:
Кстати, osb надо удалить (если он еще не удален).

Ignore empty .osb files.

If there's 2 .osb kill 'em all. Ignore it if there's ony one. Ok, thanks, bye.

lepidopodus

3,548 posts

Joined November 2009

lepidopodus 13 years ago

[Dunskin's Taiko Oni]
- Seems good, generally.

00:11:804 (5,6,7,8,9) / 00:16:449 (5,6,7,8,9) - I think you can use 5-note-long or 7-note-long pattern, if you want to express piano sounds there. (But I also guess you might don't want to add more notes here, huh?)
00:21:288 / 00:23:610 / 00:25:933 - To be honest I don't think 'oo oo' pattern is quite suit here, especially due to leaving the first beat of the measure empty. (Usually strong beat exist there.)
00:29:610 - Kiai flash like this isn't allowed under current Taiko Ranking Criteria. (Also personally I don't think that is quite right for this part too.)
00:37:739 (34,35,36) - Try 'dkd' here?
00:54:384 / 01:00:577 - How about 'd k ddk dkdkd k /d kdd k ddk d k'?
01:17:030 / 01:19:352 / 01:21:675 - Same with 00:21:288 / 00:23:610 / 00:25:933.
01:26:126 / 01:30:772 / 01:35:417 / 01:40:062 - Try 'kdk'?
01:48:578 (28) - Delete this if you want to give some 'points' to 27 and 29.
01:48:771 (29) - If you fixed above, consider chaining this to kat.
01:52:062 (48,49,50) - Try 'dkd'?
02:08:707 / 02:14:900 - Same with 00:54:384 / 01:00:577.
02:33:674 (2,3,4,5) / 02:39:868 (2,3,4,5) - 'k ddk'?

Not many things to be touched, I guess? Good job.

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

-Bakari- wrote:
/le -Bakari- appears

okay, thx for the link of the rule

@lepidon - thank you for mod, i'll call Dunskin in this thread so that he could see the mods
lol new page D:

[CSGA]Ar3sgice

4,298 posts

Joined July 2011

[CSGA]Ar3sgice 13 years ago

hi 2UN wwwwww

Leyko

00:36:965 (4,5) - should be 2 circles + 1 slider here..? I think in the music there's another sound
00:46:643 (1,3) - I think arranging like this is better flow http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/391989
01:25:740 (2) - i suggest putting it here ww http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/391993
02:33:094 (4,5,6,7) - move up 1 grid?
02:42:772 (6) - I think y:144 is better~
really great map!

Dunskin's Taiko Oni

Dunskin really loves ZUN wwwwww all ZUN taiko maps

Hard

00:12:191 (4) - move last sliderpoint 1 grid left >.>
00:14:514 (4) - make the slider ends on the same line, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/391998
00:21:869 (5) - blanket this better >.> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392001
00:31:739 (4) - ^ this stacked looks not good o.o
00:48:578 (2) - a little bit outside (1) slider end
01:20:707 (1) - like this.? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392006
01:29:417 (4) - up1grid>.>
01:46:836 (3) - o.o
01:49:159 (6) - move left as (5) is stacked..?
02:27:094 (1) - imo,, this part slider at 02:27:287 is better to fit the music http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392006
02:37:933 (4) - repeat slider ..? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392016
quite unusual to have CS5 > lunatic, I like it >.>

Normal

00:15:675 (1) - blanket http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392026
02:33:094 (4) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392035 flow better imo..
... why normal whistle, try some custom sound? normal whistle is really weird on this song

249's Easy

00:45:094 (1) - move last point inside o.o
00:55:159 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392038
02:04:836 (2) - here ..?? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392040

good map☆

Good luck~

popner

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2,407 posts

Joined March 2011

popner 13 years ago

[Timing]

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

02:37:933 (4) - repeat slider ..? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392016

this is not fixed because repeate slider looks a bit messy D: thx for mod and star

@popner: nya i almost right did the timing thank you very much ^ o ^ reupload again - new timing D:

kajiyatta

1,421 posts

Joined April 2011

kajiyatta 13 years ago

Hi from #PM
General
almost suggestions
Easy
try to set same KIAI TIME with other diffs?
Placement
02:24:206(3) I think y:188 or below is better.
Hit Sonud
01:52:851(4) remove clap? it doesn't sound back music.
good diff

Normal
Placement
00:11:046(1,2) would it be this placement?

SPOILER

00:23:433(1) I think using distant snap is better.
01:19:174(2,3,4,5,1) would it be star placement?

SPOILER

02:23:431(2) Ctrl+J?
Rythem
00:14:143(2) I think this rythem is more clearly.

SPOILER

Hit Sonud

Hard
Placement
01:29:625(5) make beautiful blanket

SPOILER

Hit Sonud
02:08:722(1) add whistle at the beginning of the slider

Lunatic
Placement
01:30:786(5) y:256?
awesome :3

this map has already good potential,so probably my modding isn't useless

Wonderful map. Good Luck with Rank and star~☆~

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

fixed by me :з thank you for star and mod~

Melan Blue

321 posts

Joined October 2009

Melan Blue 13 years ago

http://puu.sh/OxsL
Everything by others that I didn't mention was fixed.

Kokatsu

Kokatsu wrote:
Leyko's Lunatic
Couldn't watch the reply, since I uploaded the map before it Sorry.

00:57:869 (2,3,4,5,6) - Found that kinda hard to play, compared to the rest of the map.It follows the music.
01:43:933 (1) - you also spaced the object following the streams that use this style like they would be part of it (in other words: the object after this kind of stream was on a slightly higher spacing). I would like you to add this here 2 No, I think it would be too much
02:21:094 (1) - ^

xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx

xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx wrote:
[Leyko's Lunatic]
- HP Drain Rate +1 No.
- Overall Difficulty +1 Yes.

NewRulerNA

NewRulerNA wrote:
[Leyko's Lunatic]
00:10:643 (3,4,5,6,1) - Does not become a complete linear. These kinds of suggestions irritate me a bit... Does it really matter?
00:11:030 (1) - Move to x:332 y:160 at the end of the slider.

CSGA Ar3sgice

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:
00:36:965 (4,5) - should be 2 circles + 1 slider here..? I think in the music there's another sound Um.. Not sure, so no change for now.
01:25:740 (2) - i suggest putting it here ww http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/391993 I really like this idea

Whew, that's all.
Thank you all so much for modding and stars!

А у меня почему то до сих пор 2 osb'шки в папке: http://puu.sh/Oxrn о_О Причем одна со старым названием.

Last edited by Melan Blue 13 years ago, edited 1 time in total.

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

Leyko wrote:
А у меня почему то до сих пор 2 osb'шки в папке: http://puu.sh/Oxrn о_О Причем одна со старым названием.

что-то с тобой, удали мапу нафиг тогда и перезакачай, т.к алин-бакари перезакачивал и http://puu.sh/OxDV
gonna upload diff later~

Kokatsu

504 posts

Joined August 2011

Kokatsu 13 years ago

Black_Cherry_Ita wrote:
CS-1 !! This is crucial to get the gap between Normal and Hard and aswell because Hard would have smaller hitcircles than Lunatic, which would be..weird..
I also find OD-1 more fitting. Od fixed, but not CS. if i change CS i'm gonna remap ALL so not. also idk atm what accept a Lunatic diff \:D/

I looked thru the song with CS 4 and it seems fine to me. There is no need for a full remap, the gaps between notes are a bit smaller but that's fine, there are just some slidershapes that should be fixed. Also, MAT/BAT's will mention that anyways later on, because that gap between the diffs is really big.

You cannot use CS +2 between two diffs. ><

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

mm meh i'll check this anyway but later D:
EDIT: yeah you was right, sorry~ :с

YTYuyu

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YTYuyu 13 years ago

NewRulerNA wrote:
hi

[249's Easy]
00:10:256 (5,1,2) - I did not like this flow.
I think this will flow better. no i will not ruin the triangle formed for (5,1,2) for that purpose.
00:14:514 (3,1,2) - relationship of position of (2) is different from (a) and relationship (1) and (3). because it should emphasize the instrumental change in this part of the song. also if you notice you'll see a triangle from (3) at the previous combo, and (2,3) at the current combo, and another one at (2,3) at the previous combo and (2) at the current combo.
00:15:675 (1,2) - move to x:280 y:188
00:55:159 (1) - I do not think this so beautiful.
move to the position of the section x:144 y:208
adjusted myself.
00:59:030 (3) - Number of different reverse slider may confuse the beginners.
so? i wanna give a challenge for beginners whether if they can hold in long enough or not.
gl

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:
hi 2UN wwwwww

249's Easy

00:45:094 (1) - move last point inside o.o fixed it myself.
00:55:159 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392038 ^
02:04:836 (2) - here ..?? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/392040 the blanket would be gone so no.

good map☆

Good luck~

kajiyatta wrote:
Hi from #PM

Easy
try to set same KIAI TIME with other diffs? no because i'd prefer kiai bursts over kiai times since i want to have off a "bang" to the song.
Placement
02:24:206(3) I think y:188 or below is better. it won't make that much of a difference during gameplay so no.
Hit Sonud
01:52:851(4) remove clap? it doesn't sound back music. no this clap is supposed to match the drums in the drumroll.
good diff

this map has already good potential,so probably my modding isn't useless
Wonderful map. Good Luck with Rank and star~☆~

ty for the mods but i made no changes. i only made minor adjustments to the diff from what some of you people said.

SPOILER

osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: Komachis Theme - Higan Retour ~ Riverside View.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 116020
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 76062
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Higan Retour ~ Riverside View
Artist:ZUN
Creator:Black_Cherry_Ita
Version:249's Easy
Source:Touhou
Tags:BCI Leyko DarkDunskin wowshakhov Byakugan249 phantasmagoria of flower view komachi onozuka PoFV

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"249's BG.jpg"
//Break Periods
2,66987,74622
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DarkDunskin

1,875 posts

Joined April 2009

DarkDunskin 13 years ago

Give Lepi and Kokatsu kudosu already, they got some usefull tipps~
I'll apply these mods when I get to visit OnosakiHito, or at least at next thursday.
I just can't right now sorry -.-

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

don't worry I'll wait for you ^^

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

grumd 13 years ago

Hi.

Lunatic

— Overall
That's just my taste, but sliders like this 00:04:659 (3) don't look pretty in my opinion. You used just straight sliders like here 01:31:174 (6) and it was better. Just saying, keep them if you like them.

— Mapping

00:11:433 (2,3,4) - This rhythm is wrong, the triple must start at the red tick. Delete these notes and listen to this part at 25%, you'll see that piano notes form a triple from the rede tick.
SPOILER
As I could see, you use grid snap for every stream in this map. Imo, this is a wrong way. If you want the spacing in your streams to be consistent, you must not use the grid snap but use distance snap. In that way your streams will become much more solid and neat.
00:28:465 (5,1) - Consider making this spacing 1.0x, I don't think you need a jump here.
Probably add finishes at 00:32:722 - 00:35:819 and 00:38:916 ?
00:37:948 (4,5,6) - Ok, rework these hitsounds please: 00:38:335 add a whistle, 00:38:529 remove it, 00:38:722 add a whistle. Sounds much better and fits that sound in the music (lol dunno how that sound is called)
00:46:271 (7,8,9) - Probably extend this stream too, as you did for that doubles?
SPOILER

I have also moved 00:46:271 (7) - to x:48 y:188 to make the spacing between (7) and (5) right the same as between (6) and (4);
00:52:658 (9) - If you move it to x:200 y:192, it will form a nice rhomb:
SPOILER
00:54:206 (8) - It will flow much better if you position this circle like that, so difference between jumps will be not so big. Cursor will move softly and smoothly in this way, but not speed-upping and then stopping very abruptly.
SPOILER
00:58:174 (3) - I wish you could make this smoother. Moving (1,2) will help also:
SPOILER
01:23:819 (3,4,5) - The way how this stacks ruing the flow (screenshot). Cursor was moving up and up, but then baka-stack ruins the fly. Try to make this:
SPOILER
01:47:044 - Add a whistle here.
01:48:786 - Add a whistle here, 01:48:980 - remove here, 01:49:173 - add here.
01:51:302 (4,5) - This must be a triple. Delete 01:51:593 and add new note at 01:51:496. If you listen at 25%, you'll see that you have a drum sound at 01:51:496
02:21:109 (1) - To make everything symmetrical and pretty, move this slider to 02:19:851 (4) position and Ctrl+H it! This will be far better imo
SPOILER

Hard

— Overall
00:04:659 (5) - что хочется сказать.. Неправильно ты делаешь, когда выводишь точки, управляющие формой слайдера, за его конец. Ты делаешь так постоянно, а это сказывается на его форме, при чём сильно сказывается. Намного красивее получаются слайдеры не такие, а такие, пускай это и малозаметно. Зато аккуратно. Просто возьми на заметку.

— Mapping

00:01:756 (1,2,3) - Выдели всё это и подвинь на координаты 260;58, чтобы сделать треугольник (2)-(3)-(1)
SPOILER
00:04:659 (5) - Ну вот обводит он плохо..
00:03:691 (3) - 00:07:368 (5) - 00:08:530 (2) - старайся не ставить финиши и даунбиты на концы слайдеров. Если быть точнее, не ставь конец слайдера на такие места. Даунбит (этот большой белый тик) — это же начало такта и самая сильная нота в такте. Её нужно подчеркнуть нажатием клавиши, а когда она стоит на конце слайдера — мы просто клавишу отпускаем. Совершенно не чувствуется ритм таким образом. Было бы неплохо переделать так, чтобы сильные доли были в начале слайдеров.
00:06:401 (1,2,3,4,5) - Например так:
SPOILER
На заметку: Длинный белый тик сильнее белого, белый тик сильнее красного, красный сильнее синих и т.д. Это уже мелочи маппинга, но очень часто помогают они делать легкоиграемую и удобную карту.
00:12:981 (5) - Добавь точку посреди слайдера, чтобы не перекрывать следующий:
SPOILER
При этом было бы неплохо попробовать лучше обвести его (6)-м слайдером. (скриншот)
00:16:465 (3,4) - Глянь на этот спейсинг. А теперь на этот 00:17:626 (6,1). Подвинь (1) на клетку влево, чтобы сделать всё одинаковым.
00:17:433 (5) - На клетку вправо..
00:18:788 (3) - Немного отодвинув вторую точку, можно добиться лучшей обводки
SPOILER
00:18:788 (3,4) - Почему спейсинг не такой, как везде? Сдвинь (4) ближе.
00:31:755 (4) - На клетку влево
00:34:271 (4) - На клетку вниз
00:38:916 (1) - Влево на одну
00:48:593 (2) - Третью точку можно на пару клеток вверх, будет лучше обводить
SPOILER
00:54:593 (1) - Обведи получше пжл..
00:56:722 (6) - Примерно на клетку вверх.. Что-то у тебя много таких мелких проблемок
00:57:496 (1) - И тут можно лучше обвести. В общем, тебе надо не полениться и пересмотреть ВСЕ слайдеры и ВСЁ переделать аккуратнее.
01:01:367 (3) - На клетку вверх с влево
01:21:883 - Добавь финиш, а тут 01:22:270 вместо него поставь вистл
01:29:625 (5) - Ближе подвинь к кружку
01:34:851 (1,2) - Ну смотри, здесь так близко, а тут 01:36:012 (3,4) - так далеко. Ну куда это годится. Хоть бы скопировать можно было. Одинаковые же паттерны.
01:49:560 (7,8,1) - Сделай треугольник
SPOILER
02:06:206 (2,3) - Не пытайся делать слайдеры симметричными собственноручно, просто скопируй (1) и вставь вместо (2) и (3)
02:17:625 (4,5) - Впервые такой ритм на карте, сделай из этих двук шариков один слайдер, будет проще ритм сыграть
02:35:431 (2) - Совсем не параллельно
Окей. Во второй половине карты я уже почти не обращал внимания на мелочи.. Делай аккуратнее в следующий раз, пожалуйста. Но в целом хорошо. Если ты сделаешь всё точно по спейсингу, будет вообще отличнейший хард

Normal

— Mapping

00:04:078 (1,2) - Beginners may be a bit confused by this rhythm. To make it more readable, use a circle and a short slider with repeat please.
SPOILER
00:16:852 (2,1,2) - Make a triangle here? may look nice.
SPOILER
00:21:497 (2) - Move it a bit higher so they don't touch.
00:28:465 (3) - Make this symmetrical to 00:26:530 (3). Just Ctrl+H it, move to circle's position and Ctrl+H back.
SPOILER
It could be also nice if you stacked 00:28:465 (3)'s end with 00:26:143 (2) while making it symmetrical. This will look neater and will avoid overlapping 00:28:465 (3) and 00:29:626 (1).
SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER
00:36:980 - Add a note here?
00:37:367 (4,5,6) - Replace them with a slider with repeat?
00:40:464 (1,1) - Too short spinner, too fast appearing note after it, placed too far from the center after it...
01:39:303 (1,3) - I don't like the way they are barely touching.
01:50:915 (2,3,4,5) - The same as for 00:36:980 and 00:37:367 (4,5,6)
02:11:044 (2) - Swap whistle here. I mean, place it on the start of the slider, not on the end.

Easy

— Mapping

00:04:078 (1) - Encircle it better please.
SPOILER
^ that was last time I suggest minor isuue in this map. I know how stubborn are you, so yea.
00:45:109 (1) - Remake this shape. It is bad. Try like that. Of course, you will have to move some notes after this slider after fix.
SPOILER

Last edited by grumd 13 years ago, edited 2 times in total.

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

BCI 13 years ago

как бы и лейка, и вов русские, ну да не суть, огромное спасибо за столь огромный мод, ~~посмотрю позже~~
EDIT:

ofc all fixed

grumd wrote:
Hi.

Hard

— Overall
00:04:659 (5) - что хочется сказать.. Неправильно ты делаешь, когда выводишь точки, управляющие формой слайдера, за его конец. Ты делаешь так постоянно, а это сказывается на его форме, при чём сильно сказывается. Намного красивее получаются слайдеры не такие, а такие, пускай это и малозаметно. Зато аккуратно. Просто возьми на заметку.
ммм, намного лучше, my fault, всегда люблю так делать D: спасибо, следить за собой буду

— Mapping
00:01:756 (1,2,3) - Выдели всё это и подвинь на координаты 260;58, чтобы сделать треугольник (2)-(3)-(1)
SPOILER
00:04:659 (5) - Ну вот обводит он плохо..
00:03:691 (3) - 00:07:368 (5) - 00:08:530 (2) - старайся не ставить финиши и даунбиты на концы слайдеров. Если быть точнее, не ставь конец слайдера на такие места. Даунбит (этот большой белый тик) — это же начало такта и самая сильная нота в такте. Её нужно подчеркнуть нажатием клавиши, а когда она стоит на конце слайдера — мы просто клавишу отпускаем. Совершенно не чувствуется ритм таким образом. Было бы неплохо переделать так, чтобы сильные доли были в начале слайдеров.
00:06:401 (1,2,3,4,5) - Например так:
SPOILER
На заметку: Длинный белый тик сильнее белого, белый тик сильнее красного, красный сильнее синих и т.д. Это уже мелочи маппинга, но очень часто помогают они делать легкоиграемую и удобную карту. хард не должен быть легкоиграем имо, но да, я учту. all above fixed
00:12:981 (5) - Добавь точку посреди слайдера, чтобы не перекрывать следующий:
SPOILER
При этом было бы неплохо попробовать лучше обвести его (6)-м слайдером. (скриншот) не нашла такого слайдера лол но попыталась обвести покрасивее ;w;
00:16:465 (3,4) - Глянь на этот спейсинг. А теперь на этот 00:17:626 (6,1). Подвинь (1) на клетку влево, чтобы сделать всё одинаковым.
00:17:433 (5) - На клетку вправо..
00:18:788 (3) - Немного отодвинув вторую точку, можно добиться лучшей обводки
SPOILER
00:18:788 (3,4) - Почему спейсинг не такой, как везде? Сдвинь (4) ближе.
00:31:755 (4) - На клетку влево
00:34:271 (4) - На клетку вниз
00:38:916 (1) - Влево на одну
00:48:593 (2) - Третью точку можно на пару клеток вверх, будет лучше обводить
SPOILER
00:54:593 (1) - Обведи получше пжл..
00:56:722 (6) - Примерно на клетку вверх.. Что-то у тебя много таких мелких проблемок
00:57:496 (1) - И тут можно лучше обвести. В общем, тебе надо не полениться и пересмотреть ВСЕ слайдеры и ВСЁ переделать аккуратнее. yes my lord ;_;
01:01:367 (3) - На клетку вверх с влево
01:21:883 - Добавь финиш, а тут 01:22:270 вместо него поставь вистл да емана, третий раз мне это говорят и третий раз это не апдейтится
01:29:625 (5) - Ближе подвинь к кружку
01:34:851 (1,2) - Ну смотри, здесь так близко, а тут 01:36:012 (3,4) - так далеко. Ну куда это годится. Хоть бы скопировать можно было. Одинаковые же паттерны. да я копировала D:
01:49:560 (7,8,1) - Сделай треугольник
SPOILER
02:06:206 (2,3) - Не пытайся делать слайдеры симметричными собственноручно, просто скопируй (1) и вставь вместо (2) и (3)
02:17:625 (4,5) - Впервые такой ритм на карте, сделай из этих двук шариков один слайдер, будет проще ритм сыграть
02:35:431 (2) - Совсем не параллельно
Окей. Во второй половине карты я уже почти не обращал внимания на мелочи.. Делай аккуратнее в следующий раз, пожалуйста. Но в целом хорошо. спасибо, это приятно слышать \о\ Если ты сделаешь всё точно по спейсингу, будет вообще отличнейший хард уж нельзя по спейсингу, дело в том что я изменяла размер кружков (+1) и спейсинг весь сбился, а перемапать все не вариант, оттого и перебои

grumd

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grumd 13 years ago

Вишенка, у меня ничего не апдейтится о/
Сабмитни, м?

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BCI 13 years ago

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Melan Blue

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Melan Blue 13 years ago

grumd wrote:
Hi.

Lunatic

— Overall
That's just my taste, but sliders like this 00:04:659 (3) don't look pretty in my opinion. You used just straight sliders like here 01:31:174 (6) and it was better. Just saying, keep them if you like them. Мне они симпатичны, так что no change.

— Mapping
00:28:465 (5,1) - Consider making this spacing 1.0x, I don't think you need a jump here. Нет
Probably add finishes at 00:32:722 - 00:35:819 and 00:38:916 ? ^
00:37:948 (4,5,6) - Ok, rework these hitsounds please: 00:38:335 add a whistle, 00:38:529 remove it, 00:38:722 add a whistle. Sounds much better and fits that sound in the music (lol dunno how that sound is called) Хмм, нет. Не нравится как звучит, да и играется странно...
01:47:044 - Add a whistle here. Нет
01:48:786 - Add a whistle here, 01:48:980 - remove here, 01:49:173 - add here. ^

Все, что не было упомянуто исправлено. Спасибо за мод!

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