The subforum's really getting quiet...
This time I'll host a simple flavorless game.

Setup:
This game will use the F11 setup. One of these four setups will be picked randomly and used:
1 - Mafia Roleblocker, 1 - Mafia Goon, 1 - Cop, 1 - Doctor, 5 - Vanilla Townies
2 - Mafia Goons, 1 - Cop, 6 - Vanilla Townies
2 - Mafia Goons, 1 - Doctor, 6 - Vanilla Townies
1 - Mafia Roleblocker, 1 - Mafia Goon, 7 - Vanilla Townies

Alive:
1. JInxyjem
2. Rantai
3. bmin11
5. akrolsmir
7. Lincolm
8. Kanye West
9. Jayel

Dead:
6. Sync - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 1
4. Nyquill- Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2

Sample PM's:

General:
1) Do not quote your role PM or anything the mod gives to you.
2) Do not post screenshots or any sort of factual evidence of private communications, either with the mod or amongst yourselves.
3) Do not edit your posts.
4) Do not talk outside of the thread, unless your role PM allows so.
5) Mod has the final say on any issue. If the mod makes a mistake, feel free to PM him to sort it out.
6) If you need any help, or have questions, or just want to talk in general, feel free to PM the mod.
7) Dead people may not post in the thread.

Day:
1) Game starts at Day.
2) Deadlines will be 96 hours tentatively. Extensions may be placed depending on the activity.
3) You may vote someone by using this format: Vote : Player. You may also choose to not lynch anyone: Vote: No-Lynch
4) You may also remove your vote by using this format: Unvote
5) When a player receives more than half of the total votes at any point during the day, that player is automatically lynched.
6) Once a player is lynched, there shall be no posting in the thread even before the mod posts the lynch scene. Night will commence shortly.
7) If no one has been lynched, and the deadline has passed, the person with the most votes gets lynched. If there is a tie, the one who reached the tying amount of votes first, is lynched.
8) A player has to remain active, at least one post per 24 hours. If a player has not posted for 24 hours, one may request for them to be prodded.
9) If the player prodded doesn't respond, a he/she will be replaced.
10) If the player gets prodded three times already and still becomes inactive he/she will be automatically replaced.
11) If no replacement can be found. The player will be modkilled instead.

Night:
1) Night lasts 24 hours.
2) Any roles or factions with active night abilities may choose to use them by PM-ing the mod (see the Role PM for role-specific instructions).
3) Once the deadline for night has passed, all actions not received will count as a No Action.

/in

yeah fast

almost overtook the rules lol

Kay

/in

well fu- I mean in.

/in, though it would be nice if we could get some actual newbies to come.

in, I love flavorless games

I really waiting for new mafia games cause I want to try one.

I'm in.

Thanks for make newbie mafia place.

sure why not, in

why is there a need for a mafia roleblocker if there's 7 vanilla townies

Presumably to make scum think that there is a cop and doctor to watch out for.

Let me not be replaced this time. I couldn't join that time... , in.

Sent all the PMs.
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Confirmed~

The mafia seems to have invaded our peaceful little town!
We must stop them at once! Form a lynch mob, quickly!

IT IS NOW DAY 1. WITH 9 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN 104 HOURS.

(104 since 96 hours from now, I don't have internet access.)

Well, may we first know how many mafias, cops, and doctors are?

NoHitter wrote:

Setup:
This game will use the F11 setup. One of these four setups will be picked randomly and used:
1 - Mafia Roleblocker, 1 - Mafia Goon, 1 - Cop, 1 - Doctor, 5 - Vanilla Townies
2 - Mafia Goons, 1 - Cop, 6 - Vanilla Townies
2 - Mafia Goons, 1 - Doctor, 6 - Vanilla Townies
1 - Mafia Roleblocker, 1 - Mafia Goon, 7 - Vanilla Townies

It's one of the 4 here. No one truly knows which one right now, that's why it's a semi-open setup.

And we must find the those mafia with voting right?

OK, this is scary.

At the very least we know that there are 2 scum, regardless of the setup. Which means safe lynches D1 and 2.

Which isn't much if we're dealing with the 4th setup.

replacement in

So, anyone up for a massclaim?

How is that going to help? Maf and Doc will fakeclaim VT, and if we have a Cop and he claims, then the mafia would know if there's a Doc or not due to the setup while town still can't confirm the setup.

And if everyone claims VT we're back to square one.

It is sort of complicated.... since I'm a newbie here, though I've played Mafia games in many other places... :/

And we know each night we lost 2 man if we don't catch the mafia.

Lincolm wrote:

And we know each night we lost 2 man if we don't catch the mafia.

No, just 1.

let's get this party started

vote Sync im telling ya he's out to get us all!

vote : Kanye West

I feel like voting the voter.

Kayne is clearly distance voting his scum buddy.

Unvote: Kanye West

Sorry, I think I can't participate this game... (goodness...)
I need replacement.

Jayel wrote:

Unvote: Kanye West

Sorry, I think I can't participate this game... (goodness...)
I need replacement.

Somehow I read this as "someone's suspicious of distance votings and I distance voted gotta bail"

Umm.... ya, I think that's a record for fast replacement call if we have any.

I'm surprised someone actually suggested a massclaim already. Care to explain your thoughts, akro?

It has been 33 hours already since the start of the day, meaning we have around 70 hours left, and yet you start a random vote. Kayne, are you sure your vote is not going to impact the lynch result, or you simply don't care?

JInxyjem wrote:

Jayel wrote:

Unvote: Kanye West

Sorry, I think I can't participate this game... (goodness...)
I need replacement.

Somehow I read this as "someone's suspicious of distance votings and I distance voted gotta bail"

To say the least, he is either having real life issues, or hyper-paranoid.

D:

Kanye West wrote:

let's get this party started

I'm cool with this

vote: bmin11

Although I don't cooperate with Kanye, random told me to Vote : Sync

bmin11 wrote:

Umm.... ya, I think that's a record for fast replacement call if we have any.

I'm surprised someone actually suggested a massclaim already. Care to explain your thoughts, akro?

It has been 33 hours already since the start of the day, meaning we have around 70 hours left, and yet you start a random vote. Kayne, are you sure your vote is not going to impact the lynch result, or you simply don't care?

I thought akro was joking with the massclaim thing so i random voted, lol

I suggested the replacement because I cannot have internet access for two days.
No other reasons.

Kayne West wrote:

I thought akro was joking with the massclaim thing so i random voted, lol

What made you believe in that? I couldn't notice that at all :<

And are you guys really want a random-vote-fest while we only have 56 hours left? Remember, we are not in the same time zone (I'm in S.Korea for example) and this means we will be taking atleast a day or two to actually have some kind of a discussion. So please, hold you votes back.

I'm actually surprised you guys just disregarded my post

Thought I'd like to mention when kanye started the random vote it was not late at all, 70 hours to discuss and provide results. In fact, we had even less time for anime mafia and a random vote proved somewhat useful.

But seriously if we're doing a random vote we need everyone to follow through, if we started one at around the time bmin posted, it wouldn't have been too late

unvote

Nyquill got the point, but maybe discussion better.

Unvote

bmin11 wrote:

I'm surprised someone actually suggested a massclaim already. Care to explain your thoughts, akro?

JInxyjem wrote:

And if everyone claims VT we're back to square one.

thatsthejoke.jpg

Nyquill wrote:

But seriously if we're doing a random vote we need everyone to follow through, if we started one at around the time bmin posted, it wouldn't have been too late

I'm not sure your idea of a random vote squares with mine, but having everyone follow through is absolutely not necessary to create enough useful information to discuss which IMO is the point of rvs.

For instance, vote: bmin11 on a perceived unwillingness to have votes flying around lest he be lynched.

Jayel wrote:

I suggested the replacement because I cannot have internet access for two days.
No other reasons.

If it's only 2 days then you should be fine to get back into it, if you wanted to.

@Akro - Could just be overly cautious (which doesn't make much sense when I think about it, for the first day).

I wouldn't have been this cautious if the forum was only more active.

I'm worried of townies getting lynched from lurker's random vote. I'm skeptical that people will fully participate D1, after watching several games before this one.

I know this went well for Themeless Mafia, but the chance of this happening is 2/9 + mafia lurking, which I think it's quite slim.

akro wrote:

thatsthejoke.jpg

Please don't make this kinds of joke in Newbie Mafia. Anywhere, but not in Newbie Mafia.

akrolsmir wrote:

For instance, vote: bmin11 on a perceived unwillingness to have votes flying around lest he be lynched.

I see subtle scumpainting of bmin here. bmin was unwilling because he felt there wasn't enough time and a townie could end up being lynched, not himself.

However, that entire sentiment (for lack of better words) still includes himself.

I don't see the point of this argument at all. Are you suggesting that disagreeing with risking possible town lynches leads to being over-cautious of it's own life?

Anyway, the day ends in 40 hours. I'm thinking of prodding Sync, since he hasn't posted a single post, while having two votes on him. If anyone agrees, do the prodding for me.

Heading to bed. Good night.

Unless you're outright claiming mafia right now, yes.

Especially with a lynch that is based purely on words and no actions. The thing that got me raising an eyebrow was this is coming straight off a player with a vote on him. Not much but it's curious.

@bmin We're always going to be risking town lynches, unless we have a claimed cop. Our chances with a lynch (2/9) are much better than our chances of waiting for the nk (0/9).

Also, what is up with explicitly pointing out Sync's lurking and NOT prodding him? (prod:Sync)

Thus far I have not been dissuaded of lynching bmin.

Rantai wrote:

Unless you're outright claiming mafia right now, yes.

Especially with a lynch that is based purely on words and no actions. The thing that got me raising an eyebrow was this is coming straight off a player with a vote on him. Not much but it's curious.

It's uncharacteristic of you that you have gotten your facts wrong. Sync was the one that got the first vote and was the only vote when I started rambling about "it's too late and dangerous to start a RVS"

I guess it could be taken that way if we look at Nyquill's vote (which came after my post) and my second post following that, but why should I suddenly change my thoughts just from that single vote?

Prodded Sync

VOTE COUNT:
Sync (1) - Kanye West
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir

Not Voting (7) - JInxyjem, Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Sync, Lincolm, Jayel

DEADLINE IS IN AROUND 24 HOURS.

Edit: Fixed the incorrect votes.

Well ok point taken, but you still continue to urge us to be cautious but present no other alternatives at this moment.

Until I see something else your over-cautiousness is still unwarranted.

fff, I was expecting a PM at the start of D1

Anyways, there's nothing wrong with random voting D1 -- even at the very start. As long as someone doesn't hammer in without town's consensus (aka scum or stupid newbtown) then we're fine.

... prod: everyone not named Rantai, bmin or Sync

What do you all think about lynching one of the many lurkers day 1?

Can we have another 24 or 48 hours? I'm going to be gone for a day.

Even though I don't know how this is related to me being cautious of single vote lynch, but I'll try to think of one. Actually, everyone else should as well for the better good of town.

12 Hours left?

I don't have any idea to vote whom. The best idea still random vote in first day.

Well, maybe bmin really like to analyze every single kind of vote (and post) that coming trough which make him cautious. A good player, isn't he?

Lincolm wrote:

I don't have any idea to vote whom. The best idea still random vote in first day.

Not really an option anymore, as a reactionary guage will no longer work at this point.

Kanye where the hell are you we haven't seen you in 2 pages along with Jayel (but he has internet problems?).

And my point still stands that bmin called off kanye's random vote way too early. Being "cautious" has its limits.

Sorry for the inactivity, guys.

Well, I do not have any idea whom I should vote, either.
Maybe Sync is the only one I have doubt on.

I'm extending the deadline by 24 hours.
This will be your only extension for this day.

Cool, thanks for the extension; I was out of town yesterday. Sure we could lynch lurkers, but no one's really lurking anymore, are they? I guess my RV still stands for now anyway. I don't really want to vote bmin unless town reaches a solid consensus. Being cautious =/= mafia.

Vote : No-Lynch

Sorry, just don't want pick anyone without reason even I like using random.

@Lincolm - Well, if we go no-lynch, that gives us a 0% chance of hitting mafia while they have 100% chance of hitting town tonight. And when we start up tomorrow, we'll be in the same place as today not knowing who to lynch, and be down one person. Meanwhile, if we do lynch someone, even if it's town we'll have a record of who was willing to lynch that person and who abstained, which is useful information as we move on. For that reason, no-lynch day 1 is usually a bad idea.

@Kanye- Are you really comfortable lynching Sync with your 1 random vote? Because that's the way things are looking so far.

Jayel wrote:

Sorry for the inactivity, guys.

Well, I do not have any idea whom I should vote, either.
Maybe Sync is the only one I have doubt on.

Don't point your finger without telling us why.

vote: Jayel

Basically parroting, added nothing with his post and simply posted so he wouldn't be deemed as a lurker in aims that the spotlight wouldn't be on him. Unless you guys want to lynch a lurker or somebody random, Jayel is probably the best bet in terms of a D1 lynch.

What do you guys think?

I was attributing that to being new (mainly because I haven't seen him play enough to know better).

Sorry for slight inactivity, schoolwork and stuff the past few days

Rantai wrote:

I was attributing that to being new (mainly because I haven't seen him play enough to know better).

Jayel wrote:

It is sort of complicated.... since I'm a newbie here, though I've played Mafia games in many other places... :/

Honestly, I wouldn't dismiss him that easily, considering he claims to have played before.

I was thinking of no-lynch, but the chance of having no pro-town roles has just made the plan to sound even worse then it was.

Well... I hate how scummy this is going to sound like, but if akro doesn't unvote me (even though I have made a post how his reasoning does not make sense), I'll be voting someone else just to save myself. I know lynching me is going to be a town lynch with a chance of 100%, so I would rathershoot for the 1/4 chance now.

The reason I doubted Sync was sort of simple: he was silently waiting while others are talking -- (it was solely based on my prejudice, but)
Now I've got to have my decision.

Vote: Sync

I think he is being aggressive on me after I said I have doubt on him.

@akro : Thought of that also. I just thinking for the save search also. Maybe with more people we get more informations. Although I agree with yours also. I will thinking of that but I still on my option.

4 hours left

Are you calling my "aggressiveness" unjustified?

Again, you're not explaining anything -- you're typing a load of crap which is why I'm voting for you in the first place.

Sync wrote:

Are you calling my "aggressiveness" unjustified?

Man, I have never said that your aggressiveness is unjustifiable.

The word I just said before I voted you was that "I had doubt on you" but, you know, I was not going to absolutely vote you at that time.

What I call unjustifiable is, so to speak, that you became sensitive right after the moment I said "I had doubt on you"
and shortly put a vote on me. This one finally motivated me to decide to vote you.

On the light of your thesis, I think the reason of yours of voting me does not make sense, either.

VOTE COUNT:
Sync (2) - Kanye West, Jayel
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
Jayel (1) - Sync
No Lynch (1) - Lincolm

Not Voting (4) - JInxyjem, Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill

You all decide to lynch Sync.
After doing so, you find a gun in his pocket and some a paper containing orders from the Mafia.
Sync - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 1

IT IS NOW NIGHT 1.
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.

It was a peaceful night. No one died at all.

IT IS NOW DAY 2. WITH 8 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.

... If it weren't a semi-open setup I would have screamed cult like anime mafia

There's no decent motive I can imagine for mafia to not kill, so I'm assuming the guy was inactive or inattentive.

Doctor?

Not sure why you would rule that out...

...OH.

derp, the fact how much the lynch/kill events were so close to anime just made me forget

JInxyjem wrote:

...OH.

derp, the fact how much the lynch/kill events were so close to anime just made me forget

this game is flavorless though...

Assuming mafia is actually playing to win and that the doctor got the right person, we can also confirm the existance of a cop.
Like always, in case its one of the new people, claim only if you got mafia.

Nyquill wrote:

Assuming mafia is actually playing to win and that the doctor got the right person, we can also confirm the existance of a cop.

I don't think I'm getting this. There is also a setup that only has a doctor.

I think we are pretty safe to assume we have a doctor with us, who was able to save last night (I guess it's still possible that we might be having another Themeless Mafia >_> <_< >_> <_<)

Oh and I'm having my FoS (finger of suspicion) towards Lincolm for his/her vote. Akro made a decent enough post for why no lynch was a bad idea, and a bit of add ups from myself as well. I'm going to take this as a possible attempt to save Sync from getting lynched. I'll be expecting a post from you about this.

The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.

At least we know that we have a doctor.

It almost not possible the last mafia got inactive in the first night with akrolsmir already asked to proded all of us before the end time.

bmin11 wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

Assuming mafia is actually playing to win and that the doctor got the right person, we can also confirm the existance of a cop.

I don't think I'm getting this. There is also a setup that only has a doctor.

Looks like a scum slip- Nyquill's the remaining roleblocker and thus knows that the existence of a doctor confirms a cop. Vote: Nyquill

Say what you like in denial, I'm not changing my vote for today.

Lincolm wrote:

At least we know that we have a doctor.

It almost not possible the last mafia got inactive in the first night with akrolsmir already asked to proded all of us before the end time.

bmin11 wrote:

Oh and I'm having my FoS (finger of suspicion) towards Lincolm for his/her vote. Akro made a decent enough post for why no lynch was a bad idea, and a bit of add ups from myself as well. I'm going to take this as a possible attempt to save Sync from getting lynched. I'll be expecting a post from you about this.

The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.

And I'll also be waiting for Nyquill's post.

WELL MASSIVE DERP I was remembering the two setups mentioned of having either 2 or none because of that discussion earlier and I completely forgot about the existance of the other two.

Third time I'll be slapping myself here.

Haha, no. Try harder.

Actually, don't, and let us lynch you .

Why are you pushing so hard for his lynch? he derped.

Kanye West wrote:

Why are you pushing so hard for his lynch? he derped.

This probably sounds hypocritical coming from a guy who derped posts earlier, but akro's push is completely valid, and Nyquill's reason for his derp doesn't make any sense to me, because I didn't see any discussion that fit what Nyquill was talking about. In fact, I even quoted all 4 setups at the start of D1.
Another thing why he might be fixed on the all or nothing is because these are the only setups with a roleblocker too, just saying

Vote: Nyquill

Well, I don't get anything. I'll hold my vote for a while this time ...

I'm either happy for Nyquil or Lincolm lynch for today

JInxyjem wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

because I didn't see any discussion that fit what Nyquill was talking about.

Kanye West wrote:

why is there a need for a mafia roleblocker if there's 7 vanilla townies

akrolsmir wrote:

Presumably to make scum think that there is a cop and doctor to watch out for.

First page signups.

JInxyjem wrote:

Another thing why he might be fixed on the all or nothing is because these are the only setups with a roleblocker too, just saying

Actually, that's a good point.

Though the focus was on roleblockers earlier (as shown) so he could be genuinely be mixing it up. But right now I'm more inclined to believe the former.

Nyquill wrote:

JInxyjem wrote:

because I didn't see any discussion that fit what Nyquill was talking about.

Kanye West wrote:

why is there a need for a mafia roleblocker if there's 7 vanilla townies

akrolsmir wrote:

Presumably to make scum think that there is a cop and doctor to watch out for.

First page signups.

JInxyjem wrote:

In fact, I even quoted all 4 setups at the start of D1.

Which was after signups.

bmin11 wrote:

Oh and I'm having my FoS (finger of suspicion) towards Lincolm for his/her vote. Akro made a decent enough post for why no lynch was a bad idea, and a bit of add ups from myself as well. I'm going to take this as a possible attempt to save Sync from getting lynched. I'll be expecting a post from you about this.

The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.

I'm just giving my analyze. I said almost because there is a change that the mafia inactive. Surely I'm not explain that, but I mention it. That just an analyze, but you can also analyze my post too, so I know how should make better word next time.

Well, maybe Nyquill derped maybe not. I want to see more (probably).

I think bmin have a suspicious think. Because of random vote to Sync (also Kanye but unvote) made him overcautious. Maybe he want to save Sync from the vote because he know Sync is his friend. Just another analyze. Hey, this is not a revenge, I'm just giving my opinion, because I don't see anything suspicious in the other, sorry for that.