just ignore it, it's another noob tier "i-got-carried-by-a-smurf" style shitstomp
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>Not buying Hecarim just to do this.
Barely got above 1000 though.
I guess at the higher levels you will stop rushing Trinity because people will frown upon you, since they do not expect you to go for damage. Try out some more Aura items like Aegis, Randuins, Iron Solari etc.., and if you are having success with it just stick with it, but if you see your mates still fail after all your passive aid just go for whatever the fuck you want.
????
profit
Poppy apparently has a meh early game (dunno, haven't played her in a looooooong time) so all you have to do is farm and not feed. Then late game you god mode everyone on the enemy team... at the same time
that's what kill lanes are. blitz and alistar can do the same thing, although in different ways.
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?
PS Vayne isn't hard to play your clown ROFL. One button you have to click on an enemy for.
nice ELO yyy
proud of u son
I take that back
now am proud of u son
Oh and what is this, are we showing our ratings off?
whisper first item (for my dear Jarven IV
won every 1v1 with Kass lol
Da du Level 19 bist, sag ich mal nichts über dein Itembuild/Farm etc.
Ich bleib mal bei Kog generell Meiner Meinung nach ist Kog einer der besten AD Carrys derzeit, auch wenn er kein Escape hat.
Also spielen, lernen, meistern
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Due the fact that you are Level 19, I dont say something about your Itembuild/Farm etc
I'll just talk about Kog. In my opinion, kog is one of the best ad carrys at the moment, even if he has no escape.
So play, learn and master
BTW: Good English, Bad english, or a good-bad-english-thingy?
They need to be consistent..
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Ahaha oh wow~
LOL
>Not buying Hecarim just to do this.
I've played a few Dominion games just to do this.Shellghost wrote:
>Not buying Hecarim just to do this.
Barely got above 1000 though.
What kind of build should I do on Leona with a Kog/Leona lane when I got Heart of Gold and Philosopher's stone ?
I went Trinity -> Zeke last time and it went pretty well, but should I really go for trinity first
I went Trinity -> Zeke last time and it went pretty well, but should I really go for trinity first
kawaii_uguu
If you don't have a jungler like Alistar or Skarner who usually rush Shurelias you should build one asap as Leona after your second gp5. The MS boost from Shurelias and your ult will easily catch people off guard and let your team finish them. If you finish it midgame where fights are centered around Dragon pit you should be really fine.Odaril wrote:
What kind of build should I do on Leona with a Kog/Leona lane when I got Heart of Gold and Philosopher's stone ?
I went Trinity -> Zeke last time and it went pretty well, but should I really go for trinity first
I guess at the higher levels you will stop rushing Trinity because people will frown upon you, since they do not expect you to go for damage. Try out some more Aura items like Aegis, Randuins, Iron Solari etc.., and if you are having success with it just stick with it, but if you see your mates still fail after all your passive aid just go for whatever the fuck you want.
Leona's job isn't to do damage, and even with a trinity you're not going to do that much more damage because your kit and stats weren't meant for it.
Just concentrate on cooldown reduction, mana and defense. Frozen heart being a perfect example.
Leona supports by locking an enemy in place for approximately 5 years.
Leona supports by locking an enemy in place for approximately 5 years.
frozen heart is pretty much the perfect item
anyone that has mana can build it and benefit in major ways
anyone that has mana can build it and benefit in major ways
Just don't build frozen heart when someone else on your team has one/is building one since the aura doesn't stack. Basically if there is a Warwick or a Ryze on your team don't bother building it. A lot of bruisers get this item actually so you might want to ask your team if they plan on building it.
There has been a few games i've played where my team or the enemy team had multiple FH's. Now if a couple of those FH's where randuins during team fights things might have ended better for us/them.
There has been a few games i've played where my team or the enemy team had multiple FH's. Now if a couple of those FH's where randuins during team fights things might have ended better for us/them.
But a frozen heart isn't just the anti-Tryn aura. It's the second highest PhysDef item with cooldown reduction and decent mana. Just because one person has one doesn't mean that no one else is allowed to have one.
The aura's range also isn't that great iirc meaning it will only effect the enemies within the small range of the holder, not sure about that one though.
The aura's range also isn't that great iirc meaning it will only effect the enemies within the small range of the holder, not sure about that one though.
It's 1000 which is okay for stuff that is always in the middle of things. My point is that a randuins + a frozen heart is going to be much more beneficial and useful in a team fight as compared to double frozen heart. If you have enough gold left over after randuins+shurelyia's then by all means grab one if you want to help yourself over your team opposed to maybe picking up another aura item.
I'm not saying FH is bad on leona. Depending on who is on my team (initiator, Teams needs a tank) i'd probably build it regardless since the stats are so good for her.
I'm not saying FH is bad on leona. Depending on who is on my team (initiator, Teams needs a tank) i'd probably build it regardless since the stats are so good for her.
having 2 frozen hearts on a team isnt bad, but thats if both of them are on a tank/bruiser (or ryze), if someone has one already and you are a support there are better options.
Glacial Shroud is already one of the most amazing buys in the game - for 425g, you get 225 mana (note that 200 is what a 400g blue crystal gives you) meaning you're already paying under 20g for 15% CDR. This is before frozen heart, which is 630 for another 5% CDR, 75 mana, and 19 armor (Mana would cost ~150g, the armor costs ~300g, CDR is as always a hard cost to codify, but it makes it the second highest CDR item in the game along with morello's), before taking into account the 1000 range -20% dps-from-ad-carries aura.
Compare thornmail, which is 2000g for 100 armor and a 30% reflect passive (the armor itself would cost ~1500g, you're paying 500g for a passive, making it the most expensive passive in the game, discounting tiamat-minus-the-regen-stats) and is absurdly situational (Does the ad carry attack you? Is nobody else attacking you so the reflect doesn't get dispersed among their team? Am I able to force them to attack me despite my armor?) as well as Last Whisper cutting the armor down to 60ish, while FH still remains just as powerful with the aura.
t;dr frozen heart is the most cost-efficient physical defense item in the game if you have mana and don't hold a heart of gold for 30 minutes
i can go into a rant of frozen heart vs randuin's but i bet that'd bore people even more
Compare thornmail, which is 2000g for 100 armor and a 30% reflect passive (the armor itself would cost ~1500g, you're paying 500g for a passive, making it the most expensive passive in the game, discounting tiamat-minus-the-regen-stats) and is absurdly situational (Does the ad carry attack you? Is nobody else attacking you so the reflect doesn't get dispersed among their team? Am I able to force them to attack me despite my armor?) as well as Last Whisper cutting the armor down to 60ish, while FH still remains just as powerful with the aura.
t;dr frozen heart is the most cost-efficient physical defense item in the game if you have mana and don't hold a heart of gold for 30 minutes
i can go into a rant of frozen heart vs randuin's but i bet that'd bore people even more
I find both frozen heart and randuin useful. I used to get randuin as quick as possible, but nowadays when I play tank I get frozen heart first and there isn't any time to get omen. If 2 people have randuin's omen, is that of any use, or is one person wasting a slot having that equipment?
It's an active so it will never be a waste. Not only can randuins active be used offensively it can be used defensively as well (Longer duration AS/MS slows during team fights, really good MS slow for an escape).
Randuins + FH do stack with each other "Multiplicatively" which is why that combo is ridiculous late game.
Randuins + FH do stack with each other "Multiplicatively" which is why that combo is ridiculous late game.
Add to that a malphite E and you reduce jax/vayne's aspd to nearly 0.4
nasus W anybody?
wither becomes, for all intents and purposes, a 5 second slow that becomes a snare the last full second.
Randuin's is a bit strange.
The passive reduces attack speed and movement speed, but by bonus amounts - if you're a vayne and have 70% additional attack speed (greaves + PD) then hitting someone with a randuin will reduce your bonus attack speed by 35% - giving you essentially 35% bonus
Compared to the active, which calculates the orignal 100% speed, meaning 170% * 0.65 = 110.5%, compared to 135% from passive
They don't stack, i've found.
FH + randuin active = X attack speed * 0.8 * 0.65 = 0.52X
Halving dps. Yay!
It's more useful for a pure tank, but it has less utility for the person that has it - practically no CDR means that it doesn't help peel as well, less mana means you can't peel as much.
Randuin's is a bit strange.
The passive reduces attack speed and movement speed, but by bonus amounts - if you're a vayne and have 70% additional attack speed (greaves + PD) then hitting someone with a randuin will reduce your bonus attack speed by 35% - giving you essentially 35% bonus
Compared to the active, which calculates the orignal 100% speed, meaning 170% * 0.65 = 110.5%, compared to 135% from passive
They don't stack, i've found.
FH + randuin active = X attack speed * 0.8 * 0.65 = 0.52X
Halving dps. Yay!
It's more useful for a pure tank, but it has less utility for the person that has it - practically no CDR means that it doesn't help peel as well, less mana means you can't peel as much.
in a teamfight you're supposed to wither their AD carry.
inb4 but Teemo has enough skins already
He does, but you gotta admit it still looks adorable :<
Has Jayce's splash art been leaked already? I was searching for it before but eh, to no avail.
He does, but you gotta admit it still looks adorable :<
Has Jayce's splash art been leaked already? I was searching for it before but eh, to no avail.
Stupid post deleted, there's a whole video of him here http://www.millenium.org/lol/accueil/ac ... ends-70364
Dunno about splash art tho :/
Dunno about splash art tho :/
I tried to play some summoner's rift today, we won, but i failed hard for all the early parts of the game as poppy.
wut do?
wut do?
get carriedYodaSnipe wrote:
I tried to play some summoner's rift today, we won, but i failed hard for all the early parts of the game as poppy.
wut do?
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profit
Poppy apparently has a meh early game (dunno, haven't played her in a looooooong time) so all you have to do is farm and not feed. Then late game you god mode everyone on the enemy team... at the same time
yeah I looked at some guides and they all said I'd get pwned during laning, but make up for it once I got tri-force and some nice gear. I found this to be pretty true LOL! I need to learn how to not die early... think it might be useful XD
Always helps 
Wants to buy 4800 champ
Wants to buy 4800 champ
+38 armor rune apge for poppy if you go top and get W level1, u can farm at ease vs 90% of solo top
vs ranged harass/ap it's harder but still doable, u need a more MR oriented rune page
http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=16923
vs ranged harass/ap it's harder but still doable, u need a more MR oriented rune page
http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=16923
Having a 32 (or a full 40) armor page is fun overall. Works neat on Irelia against retarded physical harras lanes combined with a babysitting jungler.
I sometimes also do that for giggles on J4 against Riven or Renekton starting E and cloth 5. People just run into your nearly 80 armor lvl 1 and are all like "Nothing to do here".
I sometimes also do that for giggles on J4 against Riven or Renekton starting E and cloth 5. People just run into your nearly 80 armor lvl 1 and are all like "Nothing to do here".
Noone discussing RealMomGG CLG CEO appointment.
Sad.
Sad.
Out of all the Chinese art they could have brought over, they decided to take blood moon akali - one of the very few cases where I thought the western art was better. Riot pls :<
Kog'Maw / Leona lane is so deadly
May I ask everyone something? I'm trying to get a carry champ that is good and I thought that it would be between Vayne and Caitlyn... Who's better?
With Caitlyn you need to win your lane quite hard to be relevant later.
With Vayne you can build whatever the hell you want and still do damage.
With Vayne you can build whatever the hell you want and still do damage.
inb4 5 warmog vayneTKiller wrote:
With Caitlyn you need to win your lane quite hard to be relevant later.
With Vayne you can build whatever the hell you want and still do damage.
So far i know Vayne is one of the best carrys but one of the hardest to playAngelique448 wrote:
May I ask everyone something? I'm trying to get a carry champ that is good and I thought that it would be between Vayne and Caitlyn... Who's better?
Cait is much easier in lane because of her stupid range and she can trap brush etc, but late game vayne overpowers her hard because of her stupid steroid and her stupid true damage % of max health. So if u can hang in there as vayne and just farm (as with pretty much any ad carry) then she is the optimal choice for later
anything/leona lane is deadly if played rightOdaril wrote:
Kog'Maw / Leona lane is so deadly
that's what kill lanes are. blitz and alistar can do the same thing, although in different ways.
Vayne>Hard to play>ROFLCookie wrote:
So far i know Vayne is one of the best carrys but one of the hardest to playAngelique448 wrote:
May I ask everyone something? I'm trying to get a carry champ that is good and I thought that it would be between Vayne and Caitlyn... Who's better?
ya dude vayne is hard to play, almost as hard as ap sion
kawaii_uguu
Well, I guess at 1300 elo nothing is really hard to play. But try pulling off Vayne in a competetive game, or hence, even at 1900+ when the enemy hasn't picked their botlane yet.yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?
Wasn't vayne nerfed to oblivion in the sejuani patch?
If you know how to position yourself well then you might do well with Vayne. Caitlyn is pretty good choice especially if your still new to the AD role.
If you know how to position yourself well then you might do well with Vayne. Caitlyn is pretty good choice especially if your still new to the AD role.
I've probably played LoL longer than you and at a higher ELO. I randomly play solo que or duo with a friend when no one on Dota2.kawaii_uguu wrote:
Well, I guess at 1300 elo nothing is really hard to play. But try pulling off Vayne in a competetive game, or hence, even at 1900+ when the enemy hasn't picked their botlane yet.yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?
PS Vayne isn't hard to play your clown ROFL. One button you have to click on an enemy for.
kawaii_uguu wrote:
Well, I guess at 1300 elo nothing is really hard to play. But try pulling off Vayne in a competetive game, or hence, even at 1900+ when the enemy hasn't picked their botlane yet.yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?
proud of u son
I take that back
now am proud of u son
elo es 1
wtf yyy hecker ban pls
kawaii_uguu
If I get to play top or mid I will crush any Vayne by just counterpicking her with picks that also do great in lane. (Olaf, Malph, Lee, Kennen, Ahri, Kass). You need some sick positioning to not get raped by me in teamfights. And her laning phase is fuckin horrible, she only wins vs Graves.yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
I've probably played LoL longer than you and at a higher ELO. I randomly play solo que or duo with a friend when no one on Dota2.
PS Vayne isn't hard to play your clown ROFL. One button you have to click on an enemy for.
Oh and what is this, are we showing our ratings off?
ROFL not even showing off. You said I was 1300, I was showing you I'm not. Stop being so any clown LMAO.
Words can't describe how much I laughed.Glass wrote:
ya dude vayne is hard to play, almost as hard as ap sion
Topic Starter
Hi guys I'm 374 ELO and Sona is hardest to play.
This thread is SO BAD it makes me sad.
I'm 1400 and I'm proud of myself not.
Well, actually, I lost around 200 because of client crashes during champ select and my ISP being a dick, but that's no excuse.
Well, actually, I lost around 200 because of client crashes during champ select and my ISP being a dick, but that's no excuse.
Vayne is just the best AD carry. no argue on that
Janna. <33
eveCookie wrote:
Vayne is just the best AD carry. no argue on that
Huehuehue morde number uno ?Kazuo wrote:
eveCookie wrote:
Vayne is just the best AD carry. no argue on that
1440 makes morde nothing (I heard it's been more expensive? ok
f e a r wrote:
Vayne for president
No more jokes and videos about garen's DEMACIAAAAAAA, now just Darius
Dariussia? ._.GeeNX wrote:
No more jokes and videos about garen's DEMACIAAAAAAA, now just Darius
Ahri <3
I'll definetly buy this skin when I'll resume playing that game.
I'll definetly buy this skin when I'll resume playing that game.
whisper first item (for my dear Jarven IV
won every 1v1 with Kass lol
Lol I just bought this morning Jayce, so op man! XD 
Morde will last-hit or throw his ghost into an insta-gib-in-progress. A morde that relies on his ult tick (plus maybe ignite) isn't in a teamfight, he's in lane. Buying a QSS never makes a champion useless or even particularly weaker, it's a retard-magnet that should be counterplayed by someone who knows how to do so. It's a hundred times more effective as a deterrent due to people like you than what its actual purpose is.Colin Hou wrote:
1440 makes morde nothing (I heard it's been more expensive? ok
when it comes to laning, as morde pushes too fast, he would be the first target of junglers, that's not a good idea for a champion with no escape skill.
btw QSS can also disable ignite. all the damage is about 20% percent of target health (not including the magic resist
morde is still a strong champion, but that's when it comes middle-solo farming and group fight.
ignite -> deathfire -> E -> R boom!! (when mistake happened on oppo-team ad carrier, people with brains won't get too close to you when your E is ready even they've got a QSS
btw QSS can also disable ignite. all the damage is about 20% percent of target health (not including the magic resist
morde is still a strong champion, but that's when it comes middle-solo farming and group fight.
ignite -> deathfire -> E -> R boom!! (when mistake happened on oppo-team ad carrier, people with brains won't get too close to you when your E is ready even they've got a QSS
>Xin remake
YES
YES
Keksi wrote:
First time Kog'maw. I love this champ
Da du Level 19 bist, sag ich mal nichts über dein Itembuild/Farm etc.
Ich bleib mal bei Kog generell
Meiner Meinung nach ist Kog einer der besten AD Carrys derzeit, auch wenn er kein Escape hat.Also spielen, lernen, meistern
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Due the fact that you are Level 19, I dont say something about your Itembuild/Farm etc
I'll just talk about Kog.
In my opinion, kog is one of the best ad carrys at the moment, even if he has no escape.So play, learn and master
BTW: Good English, Bad english, or a good-bad-english-thingy?
good enough english 
So my first time AD Sona (first time AD anything)
I think she's my new favourite champion (and she's getting buff in the next patch)
I think she's my new favourite champion (and she's getting buff in the next patch)
I didn't know which items i should use. I used many AD items and GA which is probably wrong ? I don't know.. we could talk in osu! and discuss how to build right.Kaitokaiser wrote:
Da du Level 19 bist, sag ich mal nichts über dein Itembuild/Farm etc.
Ich bleib mal bei Kog generell
Also spielen, lernen, meistern
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English:
Due the fact that you are Level 19, I dont say something about your Itembuild/Farm etc
I'll just talk about Kog.
So play, learn and master
BTW: Good English, Bad english, or a good-bad-english-thingy?
Yes keksi, we can talk, but Im sure you're better playing than me just for you avatar :3 xD
Old.
Actually all of his videos are like this. X happens in 5 seconds then 50 more of ridiculous laughs.
Actually all of his videos are like this. X happens in 5 seconds then 50 more of ridiculous laughs.
What's old for you? This happaned 3 weeks ago on his stream.TKiller wrote:
Old.
Actually all of his videos are like this. X happens in 5 seconds then 50 more of ridiculous laughs.
Server - EU WEST
Nick - Noble Shirou
I will be happy to play with you guys : ).
My main characters - Shen and Ez.
Nick - Noble Shirou
I will be happy to play with you guys : ).
My main characters - Shen and Ez.
dafuq why black cleaverKeksi wrote:
too easy but my team was full of french douchebags.
lilypichu for president <3
uhhhh... it doesn't actually look like she does too much damage and she's a quirky champ, so it might take a while for people to get used to her. My first thought was zyra = plant heimer
uhhhh... it doesn't actually look like she does too much damage and she's a quirky champ, so it might take a while for people to get used to her. My first thought was zyra = plant heimer
Zyra is what I like to call a "Burst DPS" champion - she has high dps for a few short seconds. She does very well against assassin comps (time spent killing her plants is time wasted, and leaving the plants alive gives her great DPS) but very poorly against aoe comps (plants die anyway).
Her passive seems completely stupid and out of place, but oh well.
She can waveclear very well with a bit of AP, and her ganks are nice, so she'll see some good play in solo queue once people figure her out. Won't be that good in tourney 5s though, too squishy and too easy to single out.
Her passive seems completely stupid and out of place, but oh well.
She can waveclear very well with a bit of AP, and her ganks are nice, so she'll see some good play in solo queue once people figure her out. Won't be that good in tourney 5s though, too squishy and too easy to single out.
Stupidly high burst even when going tanky ap
Passives like this are dumb.
Woo, I totally hope I die a lot in teamfights.
Woo, I totally hope I die a lot in teamfights.
I'm hoping to play with some of you guys again, returned to playing yesterday and was reminded of how bad I am at the game.
Not too impressed by the new champions.
Not too impressed by the new champions.
Technically, you can only die once in a teamfight.TKiller wrote:
Passives like this are dumb.
Woo, I totally hope I die a lot in teamfights.
But that's not even my point.
Well there is a lot more than the passive that's dumb.
It's funny because that's why they nerfed Ahri. Tanky but did a shitload of damageOuariasse wrote:
Stupidly high burst even when going tanky ap
They need to be consistent..
Ahri's problem wasn't that she hit for a shitload of damage, it's that her "skillshots" pretty much always landed if you could get a charm, as well as the "orb clipping" that you can do if you have low ping (Hit someone at the very very edge of the Q range, it hits them for the magic and true damage at the same time, derp)
Low cooldowns meant that her base damages allow pretty high DPS, and her scaling is rather bad so it's best to go tanky just to spam QW some more.
I'd be far more scared of a roa+Athene's ahri than a deathcap dfg ahri.
Her burst isn't the problem, it's the consistent DPS of her W and clipping of her Q.
Low cooldowns meant that her base damages allow pretty high DPS, and her scaling is rather bad so it's best to go tanky just to spam QW some more.
I'd be far more scared of a roa+Athene's ahri than a deathcap dfg ahri.
Her burst isn't the problem, it's the consistent DPS of her W and clipping of her Q.
AP jungler wow
Wow!
noShiirn wrote:
roa+Athene's ahri
I wish they'd stop with all these SHOOT SLOW JUMP champs.
I'm quite sure we got enough.
I still prefer LoL over DotA but this is getting on my nerves.
I'm quite sure we got enough.
I still prefer LoL over DotA but this is getting on my nerves.
Best commentary. Ever. I just fucking fell in love with this guy. Hilarious.