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kawaii_uguu

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

This thread is so garbage, why the fuck do you guys just post endgame screens?
You can't expect serious talk about theories and gameplay here since:
-1. Half of the people here aren't even level 30
-2. The other 49% being somewhere <1900

So people just post their endgame SSs since they just wanna share a game where they had good fun/did well or a game where summoner 2-5 were retards.
And actually there is nothing wrong with it...
Nharox
-3. Playing the superior Dota 2 instead. :P
kawaii_uguu

Nharox wrote:

-3. Playing the superior Dota 2 instead. :P
Hmm, a lot of my friends did actually not switch even though they all praised it as it was announced. Not that many "good" players switched tbh.
Anyways, hf with Dota, I will prolly never get into all that crazy shit which happens in there, staying with simple League.
Nharox
I think a lot of people might switch, the only problem is that the game is still invite-only.

Hopefully Valve will have stable servers when the game goes public. :)
Shellghost

kawaii_uguu wrote:

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

This thread is so garbage, why the fuck do you guys just post endgame screens?
You can't expect serious talk about theories and gameplay here since:
-1. Half of the people here aren't even level 30
-2. The other 49% being somewhere <1900

So people just post their endgame SSs since they just wanna share a game where they had good fun/did well or a game where summoner 2-5 were retards.
And actually there is nothing wrong with it...

There's nothing wrong with a few end game SS's being posted every now and then, but there is something wrong with the SS's being the dominate factor of what this thread is being updated with.

Also, gameplay and theories should be discussed more by the people who aren't level 30, they're the ones who will learn more from such discussions, but I guess no one can know how the mechanics of LoL work unless they're 2k elo huh?
kawaii_uguu

Shellghost wrote:

kawaii_uguu wrote:

You can't expect serious talk about theories and gameplay here since:
-1. Half of the people here aren't even level 30
-2. The other 49% being somewhere <1900

So people just post their endgame SSs since they just wanna share a game where they had good fun/did well or a game where summoner 2-5 were retards.
And actually there is nothing wrong with it...

There's nothing wrong with a few end game SS's being posted every now and then, but there is something wrong with the SS's being the dominate factor of what this thread is being updated with.

Also, gameplay and theories should be discussed more by the people who aren't level 30, they're the ones who will learn more from such discussions, but I guess no one can know how the mechanics of LoL work unless they're 2k elo huh?
I disagree with the people pre 30 discussing about theories and unconventional builds since 95% of these people(including me back then), do not give a single fuck about that. The remaining 5% will probably read up a lot of guides or visit places like reddit.com/r/summonerschool or simply ask some friends for stuff they should build.
And, sorry, I am trying to not sound so cocky but I guess I failed at that again. Yes, there are some players below platin who know a shit ton about this game. But there are really only a few of them. Rather have a look at those platin players! Can you name me anyone who made it there in less than 100 ranked games who is not a smurfing? I would say that there are less than 1% of people climbing the ladder immediately after they hit thirty(mainly because they abused a sleeper op champ or just have ton of experience from other moba games)for example like chu8. The other 99 point anything % are the people who have played the shit out of the game. Simple. They are there because they have that much experience. And people with experience can easier come up with new things.
GeeNX

LaVolpe024 wrote:

Went to log in for the first time in months and I find this:

Yesterday EUW exploit at the evening xD
Wojjan

kawaii_uguu wrote:

I disagree with the people pre 30 discussing about theories and unconventional builds since 95% of these people(including me back then), do not give a single fuck about that. The remaining 5% will probably read up a lot of guides or visit places like reddit.com/r/summonerschool or simply ask some friends for stuff they should build.
And, sorry, I am trying to not sound so cocky but I guess I failed at that again. Yes, there are some players below platin who know a shit ton about this game. But there are really only a few of them. Rather have a look at those platin players! Can you name me anyone who made it there in less than 100 ranked games who is not a smurfing? I would say that there are less than 1% of people climbing the ladder immediately after they hit thirty(mainly because they abused a sleeper op champ or just have ton of experience from other moba games)for example like chu8. The other 99 point anything % are the people who have played the shit out of the game. Simple. They are there because they have that much experience. And people with experience can easier come up with new things.
:|
TKiller

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

This thread is so garbage, why the fuck do you guys just post endgame screens?
I only do that when I do silly builds and still succeed, so I'll take it I was not the target of the post. Though fuck you if I was.
Haseo_old

Nharox wrote:

Wanting to play the superior Dota 2 instead. :P
Angelique
;-; Sad.. I wonder when the server is coming back...
Vulf
Dota2 is a good game and i enjoy playing it time to time, but in the end I enjoy league more. ;)
Shellghost
Let's not start that shit. That's no way to improve this thread.

In other news, I sure can't wait to play some LoL 3 hours from now.
Glass
the wait time is a lie, last night it said I had a 2 hour queue but in reality it was more like 3 hours and half
yeahyeahyeahhh
Lol typical riot
Haseo_old
been playing dota and hon for awhile now, when suddenly my boredom kicked in.
Kanye West

Glass wrote:

the wait time is a lie, last night it said I had a 2 hour queue but in reality it was more like 3 hours and half
this is why I stopped playing and got stuck with watching streams
mosluv

Haseo wrote:

been playing dota and hon for awhile now, when suddenly my boredom kicked in.
What are you trying to show here?
Haseo_old

Nexy wrote:

Haseo wrote:

been playing dota and hon for awhile now, when suddenly my boredom kicked in.
What are you trying to show here?
i posted earlier about the two doran blades thing for no reason (i don't have much knowledge about LoL) .
posting something RELATED TO THE TOPIC seems to clear that up for me, so that I can stalk/check this thread every once in awhile, without feeling very out of place.
Kanye West
just ignore it, it's another noob tier "i-got-carried-by-a-smurf" style shitstomp
Lostprophet
Ahaha oh wow~
JesusYamato
LOL
Shellghost


>Not buying Hecarim just to do this.
TKiller

Shellghost wrote:



>Not buying Hecarim just to do this.
I've played a few Dominion games just to do this.

Barely got above 1000 though.
Shiro
What kind of build should I do on Leona with a Kog/Leona lane when I got Heart of Gold and Philosopher's stone ?

I went Trinity -> Zeke last time and it went pretty well, but should I really go for trinity first
kawaii_uguu

Odaril wrote:

What kind of build should I do on Leona with a Kog/Leona lane when I got Heart of Gold and Philosopher's stone ?

I went Trinity -> Zeke last time and it went pretty well, but should I really go for trinity first
If you don't have a jungler like Alistar or Skarner who usually rush Shurelias you should build one asap as Leona after your second gp5. The MS boost from Shurelias and your ult will easily catch people off guard and let your team finish them. If you finish it midgame where fights are centered around Dragon pit you should be really fine.

I guess at the higher levels you will stop rushing Trinity because people will frown upon you, since they do not expect you to go for damage. Try out some more Aura items like Aegis, Randuins, Iron Solari etc.., and if you are having success with it just stick with it, but if you see your mates still fail after all your passive aid just go for whatever the fuck you want.
Kanye West
Leona's job isn't to do damage, and even with a trinity you're not going to do that much more damage because your kit and stats weren't meant for it.
Shellghost
Just concentrate on cooldown reduction, mana and defense. Frozen heart being a perfect example.

Leona supports by locking an enemy in place for approximately 5 years.
Shiirn
frozen heart is pretty much the perfect item

anyone that has mana can build it and benefit in major ways
Vulf
Just don't build frozen heart when someone else on your team has one/is building one since the aura doesn't stack. Basically if there is a Warwick or a Ryze on your team don't bother building it. A lot of bruisers get this item actually so you might want to ask your team if they plan on building it.

There has been a few games i've played where my team or the enemy team had multiple FH's. Now if a couple of those FH's where randuins during team fights things might have ended better for us/them.
Shellghost
But a frozen heart isn't just the anti-Tryn aura. It's the second highest PhysDef item with cooldown reduction and decent mana. Just because one person has one doesn't mean that no one else is allowed to have one.

The aura's range also isn't that great iirc meaning it will only effect the enemies within the small range of the holder, not sure about that one though.
Vulf
It's 1000 which is okay for stuff that is always in the middle of things. My point is that a randuins + a frozen heart is going to be much more beneficial and useful in a team fight as compared to double frozen heart. If you have enough gold left over after randuins+shurelyia's then by all means grab one if you want to help yourself over your team opposed to maybe picking up another aura item.

I'm not saying FH is bad on leona. Depending on who is on my team (initiator, Teams needs a tank) i'd probably build it regardless since the stats are so good for her.
silmarilen
having 2 frozen hearts on a team isnt bad, but thats if both of them are on a tank/bruiser (or ryze), if someone has one already and you are a support there are better options.
Shiirn
Glacial Shroud is already one of the most amazing buys in the game - for 425g, you get 225 mana (note that 200 is what a 400g blue crystal gives you) meaning you're already paying under 20g for 15% CDR. This is before frozen heart, which is 630 for another 5% CDR, 75 mana, and 19 armor (Mana would cost ~150g, the armor costs ~300g, CDR is as always a hard cost to codify, but it makes it the second highest CDR item in the game along with morello's), before taking into account the 1000 range -20% dps-from-ad-carries aura.

Compare thornmail, which is 2000g for 100 armor and a 30% reflect passive (the armor itself would cost ~1500g, you're paying 500g for a passive, making it the most expensive passive in the game, discounting tiamat-minus-the-regen-stats) and is absurdly situational (Does the ad carry attack you? Is nobody else attacking you so the reflect doesn't get dispersed among their team? Am I able to force them to attack me despite my armor?) as well as Last Whisper cutting the armor down to 60ish, while FH still remains just as powerful with the aura.


t;dr frozen heart is the most cost-efficient physical defense item in the game if you have mana and don't hold a heart of gold for 30 minutes


i can go into a rant of frozen heart vs randuin's but i bet that'd bore people even more
neonat
I find both frozen heart and randuin useful. I used to get randuin as quick as possible, but nowadays when I play tank I get frozen heart first and there isn't any time to get omen. If 2 people have randuin's omen, is that of any use, or is one person wasting a slot having that equipment?
Vulf
It's an active so it will never be a waste. Not only can randuins active be used offensively it can be used defensively as well (Longer duration AS/MS slows during team fights, really good MS slow for an escape).

Randuins + FH do stack with each other "Multiplicatively" which is why that combo is ridiculous late game.
JesusYamato
Add to that a malphite E and you reduce jax/vayne's aspd to nearly 0.4
silmarilen
nasus W anybody?
Shiirn
wither becomes, for all intents and purposes, a 5 second slow that becomes a snare the last full second.


Randuin's is a bit strange.

The passive reduces attack speed and movement speed, but by bonus amounts - if you're a vayne and have 70% additional attack speed (greaves + PD) then hitting someone with a randuin will reduce your bonus attack speed by 35% - giving you essentially 35% bonus

Compared to the active, which calculates the orignal 100% speed, meaning 170% * 0.65 = 110.5%, compared to 135% from passive

They don't stack, i've found.

FH + randuin active = X attack speed * 0.8 * 0.65 = 0.52X

Halving dps. Yay!


It's more useful for a pure tank, but it has less utility for the person that has it - practically no CDR means that it doesn't help peel as well, less mana means you can't peel as much.
silmarilen
in a teamfight you're supposed to wither their AD carry.
Breeze
It's Dragon Boat Festival in China few days ago, and there's a skin for teemo


yay panda teemo and its mushrooms become "traditional Chinese rice-pudding"

Cefienna
inb4 but Teemo has enough skins already

He does, but you gotta admit it still looks adorable :<

Has Jayce's splash art been leaked already? I was searching for it before but eh, to no avail.
tyrael6192
Stupid post deleted, there's a whole video of him here http://www.millenium.org/lol/accueil/ac ... ends-70364

Dunno about splash art tho :/
YodaSnipe
I tried to play some summoner's rift today, we won, but i failed hard for all the early parts of the game as poppy.

wut do?
tyrael6192

YodaSnipe wrote:

I tried to play some summoner's rift today, we won, but i failed hard for all the early parts of the game as poppy.

wut do?
get carried
????
profit

Poppy apparently has a meh early game (dunno, haven't played her in a looooooong time) so all you have to do is farm and not feed. Then late game you god mode everyone on the enemy team... at the same time
YodaSnipe
yeah I looked at some guides and they all said I'd get pwned during laning, but make up for it once I got tri-force and some nice gear. I found this to be pretty true LOL! I need to learn how to not die early... think it might be useful XD
tyrael6192
Always helps ;)

Wants to buy 4800 champ


JesusYamato
+38 armor rune apge for poppy if you go top and get W level1, u can farm at ease vs 90% of solo top
vs ranged harass/ap it's harder but still doable, u need a more MR oriented rune page

http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=16923
TKiller
Having a 32 (or a full 40) armor page is fun overall. Works neat on Irelia against retarded physical harras lanes combined with a babysitting jungler.

I sometimes also do that for giggles on J4 against Riven or Renekton starting E and cloth 5. People just run into your nearly 80 armor lvl 1 and are all like "Nothing to do here".
Lostprophet
Everyday i'm supportin'

awwwww~ dat Riven
TKiller
Noone discussing RealMomGG CLG CEO appointment.

Sad.
tyrael6192
Out of all the Chinese art they could have brought over, they decided to take blood moon akali - one of the very few cases where I thought the western art was better. Riot pls :<
Shiro
Kog'Maw / Leona lane is so deadly
Angelique
May I ask everyone something? I'm trying to get a carry champ that is good and I thought that it would be between Vayne and Caitlyn... Who's better?
TKiller
With Caitlyn you need to win your lane quite hard to be relevant later.

With Vayne you can build whatever the hell you want and still do damage.
f e a r
Vayne for president
Kanye West

TKiller wrote:

With Caitlyn you need to win your lane quite hard to be relevant later.

With Vayne you can build whatever the hell you want and still do damage.
inb4 5 warmog vayne
Uni

Angelique448 wrote:

May I ask everyone something? I'm trying to get a carry champ that is good and I thought that it would be between Vayne and Caitlyn... Who's better?
So far i know Vayne is one of the best carrys but one of the hardest to play
tyrael6192
Cait is much easier in lane because of her stupid range and she can trap brush etc, but late game vayne overpowers her hard because of her stupid steroid and her stupid true damage % of max health. So if u can hang in there as vayne and just farm (as with pretty much any ad carry) then she is the optimal choice for later
Shiirn

Odaril wrote:

Kog'Maw / Leona lane is so deadly
anything/leona lane is deadly if played right


that's what kill lanes are. blitz and alistar can do the same thing, although in different ways.
yeahyeahyeahhh

Cookie wrote:

Angelique448 wrote:

May I ask everyone something? I'm trying to get a carry champ that is good and I thought that it would be between Vayne and Caitlyn... Who's better?
So far i know Vayne is one of the best carrys but one of the hardest to play
Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
Glass
ya dude vayne is hard to play, almost as hard as ap sion
kawaii_uguu

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
Well, I guess at 1300 elo nothing is really hard to play. But try pulling off Vayne in a competetive game, or hence, even at 1900+ when the enemy hasn't picked their botlane yet.
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?
Vulf
Wasn't vayne nerfed to oblivion in the sejuani patch?

If you know how to position yourself well then you might do well with Vayne. Caitlyn is pretty good choice especially if your still new to the AD role.
yeahyeahyeahhh

kawaii_uguu wrote:

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
Well, I guess at 1300 elo nothing is really hard to play. But try pulling off Vayne in a competetive game, or hence, even at 1900+ when the enemy hasn't picked their botlane yet.
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?
I've probably played LoL longer than you and at a higher ELO. I randomly play solo que or duo with a friend when no one on Dota2.

PS Vayne isn't hard to play your clown ROFL. One button you have to click on an enemy for.
dkun

kawaii_uguu wrote:

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Vayne>Hard to play>ROFL
Well, I guess at 1300 elo nothing is really hard to play. But try pulling off Vayne in a competetive game, or hence, even at 1900+ when the enemy hasn't picked their botlane yet.
But excuse me, I see your name always on the DotA2 thread, have you even played League recently?

nice ELO yyy
proud of u son


I take that back


now am proud of u son
Glass
elo es 1
Kanye West
wtf yyy hecker ban pls
kawaii_uguu

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

I've probably played LoL longer than you and at a higher ELO. I randomly play solo que or duo with a friend when no one on Dota2.

PS Vayne isn't hard to play your clown ROFL. One button you have to click on an enemy for.
If I get to play top or mid I will crush any Vayne by just counterpicking her with picks that also do great in lane. (Olaf, Malph, Lee, Kennen, Ahri, Kass). You need some sick positioning to not get raped by me in teamfights. And her laning phase is fuckin horrible, she only wins vs Graves.

Oh and what is this, are we showing our ratings off?
yeahyeahyeahhh
ROFL not even showing off. You said I was 1300, I was showing you I'm not. Stop being so any clown LMAO.
Shiro

Glass wrote:

ya dude vayne is hard to play, almost as hard as ap sion
Words can't describe how much I laughed.
Topic Starter
Lybydose
Hi guys I'm 374 ELO and Sona is hardest to play.
Gabi
This thread is SO BAD it makes me sad.
TKiller
I'm 1400 and I'm proud of myself not.



Well, actually, I lost around 200 because of client crashes during champ select and my ISP being a dick, but that's no excuse.
Uni
Vayne is just the best AD carry. no argue on that
JeSsYkA_old
Janna. <33
Kazuo

Cookie wrote:

Vayne is just the best AD carry. no argue on that
eve
Uni

Kazuo wrote:

Cookie wrote:

Vayne is just the best AD carry. no argue on that
eve
Huehuehue morde number uno ?
Colin Hou
1440 makes morde nothing (I heard it's been more expensive? ok
Kogure

f e a r wrote:

Vayne for president
GeeNX
No more jokes and videos about garen's DEMACIAAAAAAA, now just Darius
[ Kaito ]

GeeNX wrote:

No more jokes and videos about garen's DEMACIAAAAAAA, now just Darius
Dariussia? ._.
nomen
Ahri <3

I'll definetly buy this skin when I'll resume playing that game.
Colin Hou


whisper first item (for my dear Jarven IV

won every 1v1 with Kass lol
Keksi
First time Kog'maw. I love this champ
GeeNX
Lol I just bought this morning Jayce, so op man! XD
Shiirn

Colin Hou wrote:

1440 makes morde nothing (I heard it's been more expensive? ok
Morde will last-hit or throw his ghost into an insta-gib-in-progress. A morde that relies on his ult tick (plus maybe ignite) isn't in a teamfight, he's in lane. Buying a QSS never makes a champion useless or even particularly weaker, it's a retard-magnet that should be counterplayed by someone who knows how to do so. It's a hundred times more effective as a deterrent due to people like you than what its actual purpose is.
Colin Hou
when it comes to laning, as morde pushes too fast, he would be the first target of junglers, that's not a good idea for a champion with no escape skill.

btw QSS can also disable ignite. all the damage is about 20% percent of target health (not including the magic resist

morde is still a strong champion, but that's when it comes middle-solo farming and group fight.

ignite -> deathfire -> E -> R boom!! (when mistake happened on oppo-team ad carrier, people with brains won't get too close to you when your E is ready even they've got a QSS
Synchrostar
>Xin remake

YES
[ Kaito ]

Keksi wrote:

First time Kog'maw. I love this champ

Da du Level 19 bist, sag ich mal nichts über dein Itembuild/Farm etc. :)
Ich bleib mal bei Kog generell :) Meiner Meinung nach ist Kog einer der besten AD Carrys derzeit, auch wenn er kein Escape hat.
Also spielen, lernen, meistern :)

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English:

Due the fact that you are Level 19, I dont say something about your Itembuild/Farm etc
I'll just talk about Kog. :) In my opinion, kog is one of the best ad carrys at the moment, even if he has no escape.
So play, learn and master :)

BTW: Good English, Bad english, or a good-bad-english-thingy?
silmarilen
good enough english :P
those
So my first time AD Sona (first time AD anything)



I think she's my new favourite champion (and she's getting buff in the next patch)
Keksi

Kaitokaiser wrote:

Da du Level 19 bist, sag ich mal nichts über dein Itembuild/Farm etc. :)
Ich bleib mal bei Kog generell :) Meiner Meinung nach ist Kog einer der besten AD Carrys derzeit, auch wenn er kein Escape hat.
Also spielen, lernen, meistern :)

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English:

Due the fact that you are Level 19, I dont say something about your Itembuild/Farm etc
I'll just talk about Kog. :) In my opinion, kog is one of the best ad carrys at the moment, even if he has no escape.
So play, learn and master :)

BTW: Good English, Bad english, or a good-bad-english-thingy?
I didn't know which items i should use. I used many AD items and GA which is probably wrong ? I don't know.. we could talk in osu! and discuss how to build right.
GeeNX
Yes keksi, we can talk, but Im sure you're better playing than me just for you avatar :3 xD
Keksi
too easy but my team was full of french douchebags.
nomen
I should post this in this thread too.

LMAO
TKiller
Old.

Actually all of his videos are like this. X happens in 5 seconds then 50 more of ridiculous laughs.
nomen

TKiller wrote:

Old.

Actually all of his videos are like this. X happens in 5 seconds then 50 more of ridiculous laughs.
What's old for you? This happaned 3 weeks ago on his stream.
Noble Shirou
Server - EU WEST
Nick - Noble Shirou

I will be happy to play with you guys : ).
My main characters - Shen and Ez.
Kanye West

Keksi wrote:

too easy but my team was full of french douchebags.
dafuq why black cleaver
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