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anonymous_old
blissfulyoshi
strager:
00:21:56 (5) - make a horizontal reflection of 4
00:39:60 (2) - realign under the end of 1
00:48:62 (4,5,6,7) - move 1 grid left (3) to make the spacing consistent
00:55:28 (9) - make the spacing between 9 and 11 equal to the spacing between 6 and 8
01:13:46 (1) - align with 5

Nice diff.
anonymous_old
Thanks blissfulyoshi for your comments.

Took your suggestions and made another fix.

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - Professor Layton's Theme (Matma Rex) [strager's Puzzling].osu
EEeee
wow bubbled, go for rank, anyways, I see stager has been making a diff, why isn't it added so I can DL without the attachment, so I'm using his last post as his diff, if u understand?

Easy (maybe it can be switched to normal, ask around)
Fix all breaks, :D
01:13:46 (3) - just move this pattern somewhere else, it isn't spaced like 1 or 2, and I think it should be at 0.9x

Hard
Fix first break, its off by a bit :P
00:46:82 (9,10,11) - spacing is off here, fix it by snapping it to 8 at 0.9x

WyndII's mix
00:17:52 (9) - New combo, its goes to high for me
00:51:13 (1,1,1) - nazi right here, but take off the finishes at the endpoints
01:13:86 (1) - start this 1/6 forward, but end at the same place
Nice Claps :P

stager's puzzling
kk hope I get this right
00:13:51 (1,2,3) - new combo all of these
00:19:06 (2,3,4) - same to these, I think this should be new combo's cause I can't be to sure on where they are
snapped, so new combo should fix that ;)
00:23:78 (4) - this isn't snapped, so either try and fix the pattern, or just add a new combo to 4 and remove new
combo here 00:24:61 (10)
00:45:43 (8) - spacing changes, new combo plz
00:50:42 (8,9) - new combos on both of these, then remove this one 00:51:12 (1)
01:15:68 (5) - add note here, with a finish :D

Edit: Hey Guys, if u want to keep this bubbled, fix WnydII offset, its different
anonymous_old

EEeee wrote:

00:13:51 (1,2,3) - new combo all of these
00:19:06 (2,3,4) - same to these, I think this should be new combo's cause I can't be to sure on where they are
snapped, so new combo should fix that ;)
Sorry but I disagree. I've changed the spacing though so maybe it's a little better.

EEeee wrote:

00:23:78 (4) - this isn't snapped, so either try and fix the pattern, or just add a new combo to 4 and remove new
combo here 00:24:61 (10)
Fixed snapping and fixed combos. Thanks for mentioning! I can't belive I missed that.

EEeee wrote:

00:45:43 (8) - spacing changes, new combo plz
Nah. It matches the violin all the way though.

EEeee wrote:

00:50:42 (8,9) - new combos on both of these, then remove this one 00:51:12 (1)
Nah.

EEeee wrote:

01:15:68 (5) - add note here, with a finish :D
K.

Update attached.

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - Professor Layton's Theme (Matma Rex) [strager's Puzzling].osu
Metroid
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RemmyX25
Bubble Popping time :)

General Stuff:
Ok so maybe I havent played Professor Layton yet, but is there any signifigance to the Hat as the HP symbol AND the hitcircle? It doesnt change at all, and it's just... awkward?. I don't mind the hitcircle, its the HP symbol that looks confusing.

Theres also something about the spinner that I don't like, but maybe its just me not having game references or something. What im talking about is how... dull or gray the spinner looks. (this includes the bars on the side.)

Easy and Hard:
No Spinners? I'm not too comfortable letting this slide; this will lead to too many identical SSH'd scores.

WyndII's Mix:
This looks and sounds like a lot of fun, just one minor note:
01:06:13 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - the claps sound off here. Not sure if that was intentional or not.
Topic Starter
Matma Rex

EEeee wrote:

wow bubbled, go for rank, anyways, I see stager has been making a diff, why isn't it added so I can DL without the attachment, so I'm using his last post as his diff, if u understand? [/color]

Easy (maybe it can be switched to normal, ask around) I think it's easy enough to be Easy.
Fix all breaks, :D Fixed. I hope.
01:13:46 (3) - just move this pattern somewhere else, it isn't spaced like 1 or 2, and I think it should be at 0.9x Remade that part.

Hard
Fix first break, its off by a bit :P Fixed. I hope.
00:46:82 (9,10,11) - spacing is off here, fix it by snapping it to 8 at 0.9x Fixed.
Topic Starter
Matma Rex

Metroid wrote:

Pre-Rankage Modding

Easy - Please add a spinner somewhere. Added at 01:31:23 (1).
00:13:51 (1) - Make this part of the next combo.
00:17:11 (1) - Make this part of the combo beforehand.
00:37:10 (1,2) - Same as ^.
00:49:04 (1) - Make this part of the next combo.
00:52:51 (1) - Same as ^.
01:31:23 (1) - Same as ^. It became a spinner.
All fixed.

Normal - Please add a spinner somewhere. Added at 01:31:23 (1).
00:37:10 (1,2) - Make this part of the combo beforehand. It's better that way IMO.
01:31:23 (5) - Make this part of the next combo. It became a spinner.
Topic Starter
Matma Rex

RemmyX25 wrote:

Bubble Popping time :) I hate you :(

General Stuff:
Ok so maybe I havent played Professor Layton yet, but is there any signifigance to the Hat as the HP symbol AND the hitcircle? It doesnt change at all, and it's just... awkward?. I don't mind the hitcircle, its the HP symbol that looks confusing. Hat is the main symbol of Professor, I think (I actually hadnt played it too, be he has hat everywhere). But removed as health symbol.

Theres also something about the spinner that I don't like, but maybe its just me not having game references or something. What im talking about is how... dull or gray the spinner looks. (this includes the bars on the side.) Ask Wynd about it, he made the skin. I tweaked it, but hadnt touched spinner.

Easy and Hard:
No Spinners? I'm not too comfortable letting this slide; this will lead to too many identical SSH'd scores. Added one in both diffs.

Also, updated Wynd's diff and added starger's one. I hope I used right attachments, there are some many out there.
Andrea
[Timing]

Offset and BPM ok.

[Overall]

On easy final part, you can add whistles on slider end, like hard.

[Easy]

00:46:75 (2) - 1/4 forward and fix spacing.

[Hard]

00:30:44 (1) - Too close from 00:29:05 (7)

[strager's puzzling]

Slidertick rate 4 sounds bad to me. Change to 2.

00:45:43 (8) - New combo.
01:07:77 (5) - Too close from 01:07:49 (4)

[WyndII's Mix]

Fine.
anonymous_old

osuplayer111 wrote:

Slidertick rate 4 sounds bad to me. Change to 2.
Agreed, it does sound nicer at 2.

osuplayer111 wrote:

00:45:43 (8) - New combo.
EEeee asked for this too, but I declined. I'll consider if it comes up a third time. The entire combo matches the music not the spacing.

osuplayer111 wrote:

01:07:77 (5) - Too close from 01:07:49 (4)
Fixed, thanks.

Also fixed something Metroid mentioned in IRC: remove new combo to last note.

Hopefully final version attached. =]

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - Professor Layton's Theme (Matma Rex) [strager's Puzzling].osu
Topic Starter
Matma Rex
Fixed and updated.

Damn, when it's gonna be over?
Real1
[Easy]
My flow really got interrupted by the following spacing problems.
01:35:67 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing
01:37:89 (1) - Too close to 4. Spacing
01:40:11 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing
01:44:55 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing
01:46:77 (1) - Too close to 4. Spacing
01:48:99 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing.

[Hard]
Ummmh... The stacks... Personal opinion: too many.


Star, nonetheless.
Topic Starter
Matma Rex

Real1 wrote:

[Easy]
My flow really got interrupted by the following spacing problems.
01:35:67 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing
01:37:89 (1) - Too close to 4. Spacing
01:40:11 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing
01:44:55 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing
01:46:77 (1) - Too close to 4. Spacing
01:48:99 (3) - Too close to 2. Spacing.
Nope. They're all rather too far. This part is spaced at 0.5 spacing.

Real1 wrote:

[Hard]
Ummmh... The stacks... Personal opinion: too many.
Blah. I'll try to fix it, maybe.
Ryuukun
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Topic Starter
Matma Rex
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Alace
<Strager`s>
00:37:93 (4) - arrow is blocked

other diffs are good
Real1
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Topic Starter
Matma Rex

Real1 wrote:

That's confusing then! Especially for Easy, IMO.
IMHO there's nothing confusing. There a slider, silence, beat, and it starts again. Nobody except you noticed anything wrong there.
Ryuukun
i meant every map needs a bpm change only WyndII's doesn't
Real1

Matma Rex wrote:

Real1 wrote:

That's confusing then! Especially for Easy, IMO.
IMHO there's nothing confusing. There a slider, silence, beat, and it starts again. Nobody except you noticed anything wrong there.
Inconsistent spacing is confusing in my book... At least for Easy. Oh well. I guess I'm too picky.
anonymous_old

Alace wrote:

<Strager`s>
00:37:93 (4) - arrow is blocked
Yes, that was intentional. I doubt it would mess anyone up and prevent it from being ranked. (Then again, you're a BAT... =X)

Ryuukun wrote:

[strager's Puzzling]
00:56:39() - useless short break
No it's not. About 1/5 of the HP is lost without it.
Topic Starter
Matma Rex

Ryuukun wrote:

i meant every map needs a bpm change only WyndII's doesn't
Emm. But Wynd uses old BPM, and the rest uses new one, better, I think.

Real1 wrote:

Inconsistent spacing is confusing in my book... At least for Easy. Oh well. I guess I'm too picky.
It's not inconsistent. That part of song is slower, so player has to move his cursor slower too.
Eddycted
Emm. But Wynd uses old BPM, and the rest uses new one, better, I think.
After messing around with it for a bit in the editor, I think the newer one is better too (180.08). After changing WyndII's difficulty to that BPM, it fit perfectly as well.
tieff
[Timing]
I don't have problems with BPM and offset.

[Overall]
Easy don't fit the music, and you use too many whistles, but map look very nice.

You don't need to do this.
[Easy]
00:13:51 (1) - Remove whistle.
00:18:23 (6) - New combo.
00:37:93 (6) - Add finish on start of slider.
00:55:70 (5) - Same as above, please.
01:06:80 (1,2,3,4) - Too many whistles. Leave whistle only on 3.
01:37:89 (1) ~ 01:48:99 (3) - Need hitsounds. You can add finish on start/end of all sliders.

[Hard]
00:09:34 (5,6,7) - Remove whistles.
00:13:51 (6) - Add finish on start of slider. =3
00:17:53 (x) - Add note.
00:17:81 (x) - Add note.
00:17:95 (x) Add slider, whick end here 00:19:062.
00:37:93 (2) - Add finish on start of slider. Becouse it's emotional part of song.
01:07:08 (x) - Add note.
01:07:22 (x) - Add note.
01:07:63 (x) - Add slider, which end here 01:07:77.
01:08:19 (x) - Add note.
01:08:33 (x) - Add note.
01:12:91 (3) - Add finish on end of slider.
01:13:88 (4) - Finish. It's emotional part.
01:14:29 (5) - Remove note, becouse I don't see music there. (see music? lol, it's all my bad english, sorry)
01:25:12 (x) - Add note.
01:25:40 (x) - Add note.
01:26:23 (x) - Add note.
01:26:51 (x) - Add note.
01:27:34 (x) - Add note.
01:27:62 (x) - Add note.
01:28:45 (x) - Add note.
01:28:73 (x) - Add note.
01:29:56 (x) - Add note.
01:29:84 (x) - Add note.
01:30:67 (x) - Add note.
01:30:95 (x) - Add note.
01:37:06 (4) - New combo.
01:37:75 (x) - Add note.

[strager's Puzzling]
Awesome. Hitsounds, spacing, and all fit the music.

[WyndII's MiX]
00:37:93 (3) - Finish. Emotional part.
All good to.

Kudosu star.
qlum
here star

BTW I think hard is a bit easy to be called hard
KIA
[Easy]
00:54:59 (3) - Spacing, shift remain notes.
01:27:06 (2,3,4) - Spacing.
01:37:33 (4) - New combo?
01:46:22 (4) - ^.
[Hard]
00:04:62 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why they is placed without grid snap? It looks a bit careless. I advise
00:08:23 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same. Make it straight line. IAE, You can manage slider (7) TO....
...00:11:01 (7) - ....to stack its' end with following notes.
00:55:14 (6,7) - move 1 down.
01:15:13 (1,2) - Stack (1) with end of (2).
[strager's puzzling]
00:53:20 (6,7) - move by 1 right.
and some unessential things, such
00:59:44 (7,8) - space that without grid snap
01:00:55 (3) - ^
01:01:66 (8,10) - ^
So you can disregard this.


Star!
Topic Starter
Matma Rex
Added some tieff's and KIA's minor fixes.
Larto
Wynd:
Different BPM. Use the one you also use in the other diffs.

strager:
00:37:93 (4) - Invisible repeat.

Yes, that was intentional. I doubt it would mess anyone up and prevent it from being ranked. (Then again, you're a BAT... =X)
Yes it would mess people up. Yes it does prevent it from being ranked. Yes Alace and me are BATs ^_^
anonymous_old

Larto wrote:

00:37:93 (4) - Invisible repeat.

Yes, that was intentional. I doubt it would mess anyone up and prevent it from being ranked. (Then again, you're a BAT... =X)
Yes it would mess people up. Yes it does prevent it from being ranked. Yes Alace and me are BATs ^_^
fu!

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - Professor Layton's Theme (Matma Rex) [strager's Puzzling].osu
WyndII
I was thinking if I put a SB for fun, uhm like a puzzle but >.< all i can think of are spinners D=
So is this confusing SB ok? =) please ^-^?
Download: WyndII's Mix, .OSB and Approach Circle.rar


EDIT: june 29, 2009.
Hi again! Sfg can the Spacing stay? =S oh and please redownload my .osu file coz i forgot that using.OSB will SB the whole beatmaps. So please redownload for this specific map only. TY.
uhm wahts wrong with the KIAI o.O?
Download: Tomohito Nishiura - Professor Layton's Theme (Matma Rex) [WyndII's MiX].osu

Larto
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Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
01:31:23 (1) - try a finish
the ending is so...indefinite...and kinda boring...


[Hard]
01:31:23 (1) - try a finish
again, lacks a definitive ending, and is closer to Normal than Hard ...and kinda boring...


[Wynd]
this is not resnapped
00:37:41 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
wtf@kiai
make sure inherit sections for volume change only are a tick before the note they intend to affect


[strager]
00:09:07 (1,2,3) - finishes go on white, not blue ticks
00:13:51 (1) - unintuitive bpm change
00:37:93 (4) - maybe whistle the first two hits
00:45:43 (8) - either remove the whistle from the track or add it to an end
01:03:47 (3,4,5) - hard to read
01:15:13 (4) - what a terrible place to stack


^_^ POP! goes the bubble
anonymous_old
Update.

Extract and dump the hitsound in the song folder and resubmit kthxplz.

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - Professor Layton's Theme (Matma Rex) [strager's Puzzling].osu

Download: soft-hitfinish.zip
WyndII
Topic Starter
Matma Rex
Fixed and updated.
Yuukari-Banteki
[WyndII]
00:38:32 (4) - spacing


sry cant rebubble til you fix that
Swistak
I don't know isn't it intentional, but my spinners don't spin :/.
Topic Starter
Matma Rex
Saturos-fangirl, fixed. I think. Bubble now? :)

Swistak, changed graphics a bit. Spinning should be visible now.
Yuukari-Banteki
[WyndII]
00:38:32 (4) - look at the timeline: it was an equal distance from the other notes and a longer time. now it is CLOSER distance wise and FARTHER time-wise.

*headdesk*
WyndII
Yuukari-Banteki
rechecked, rebubbled
Lilac
Dang, a changed from really bad custom skins. Like the spinner too. This is a map I would play over and over again. Though it is a little disappointing that you don't have custom combo burst sounds for the character burst. It would be so much better. The BPM can be a straight 108 and you can still land the notes.

[Easy]
I think you should make it normal hitsounds after 00:38:77. It sounds better. No placing problems here.

The rest of the difficulties seem to be fine... My digging came across no SFX. :( Sorry I couldn't help further.
kingcobra52
Offset: 190?

strager's puzzling

This is the only difficulty with a countdown. I'd say get rid of it.

wyndii's mix

This difficulty doesn't need a lead-in since easy and hard map from an earlier point in the song.

00:04:04 (1) - Might be better off without this beat.

After a few times playing each difficulty, I didn't find anything major. Just had to learn the song first I guess. :P

Starred. Since these are only minor issues, I'll rank as soon as you fix. :)
Topic Starter
Matma Rex

MarioBros777 wrote:

[Easy]I think you should make it normal hitsounds after 00:38:77. It sounds better. No placing problems here.
Nope. I meant this map to have soft hitsounds.


kingcobra52 wrote:

Offset: 190? Oh hell, does that 2 miliseconds really make difference?

strager's puzzling

This is the only difficulty with a countdown. I'd say get rid of it.

wyndii's mix

This difficulty doesn't need a lead-in since easy and hard map from an earlier point in the song.

00:04:04 (1) - Might be better off without this beat.
Fixed.
m980
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Topic Starter
Matma Rex

m980 wrote:

Wynd's Difficulty has different timing to the rest of the difficulties.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF again. Fixed.

Offset = 190 now.
m980
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Pasonia
No apparent problems. Have a heart.
theowest
Awesome beatmap, awesome game! :)
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