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Regou

nold_1702 wrote:

@:Regou

Not Bad Diff :D
Thanks nold :)

Oh ono here's my diff (OD+1)

Download: AU - Infinite of Nuclear Fusion (OnosakiHito) [Regou's Extra].osu
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Extra and Insane +1OD.
Updated.
Ulysses
AR10 IN EXTRA DOESN'T FIT AT ALL
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Still making changes on map.
Saten
The star rating got messed up on Extra ww
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
@^: Some how I guess...?
I think saying it's 5 is also okay.
Ulysses
Will she come back to re-bubble it?
Sakura

nold_1702 wrote:

Will she comes back to re-bubble it?
Sorry since there were some other red lines that were messed up i was doing a full recheck on all difficulties, everything is ok now so you can have your bubble back
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Thank you for rebubble!
Also thank's to you nold for your opinion.
Yuzeyun
6×6th star'd your map, y'deserve it.
actually I wanted so bad that 36th star thing hahahahahahahaha
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
6x6, nice.

Thank you really much for star, Gezo and Sakura Hana. o7
Ulysses
Where's the #2 bubble :<
Sakura

nold_1702 wrote:

Where's the #2 bubble :<
This mapset is going for ranking, it only needs 1 bubble and a heart
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
^@: Oh! Really? So the ,,[Rule] Maximum allowed number of difficulties in a mapset" has been changed again?
Sakura
You're reading the wrong thread: t/75882
Ulysses
No,you BAT is wrong.


This however will require some careful modding to eliminate all problems, so if a mapset has 8 or more total difficulties, the ranking of the mapset will be handled just like approval maps, meaning it will require atleast a MAT and a BAT bubble before ranking.
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
^@: Nold, Sakura Hana is right.
You and me quoted just the idea of this system, but the real agreedment is the link from Sakura Hana.
Shiro
So... Just to make things clear, 8 difficulties is perfectly rankable and doesn't need an extra bubble. The rules that are being enforced are the ones that are in this thread. This doesn't need any further discussion.

That said, because I promised to mod this:
*gulps*

General
  1. "caution" has nothing to do there in tags.
  2. 00:50:051 - Is the touhou fail sound in the song or in the SB ? If the SB, remove it - it completely covers the hitsounds put there.
Normal
  1. 00:00:851 (1) - This spinner is pretty short for a Normal, especially for the first object in the whole song. I'd suggest to remove it.
  2. 00:14:051 (5,1) - To be consistent in your comboing (like 00:11:651 (1,2) - ) exchange these new comboes.
  3. 00:16:451 (4,1) - Same.
  4. 00:18:851 (4,1) - Same.
  5. 00:21:251 (5,1) - Same.
  6. 00:23:651 (3,1) - Same.
  7. 00:26:051 (3,1) - Same.
  8. 00:28:451 (3,1) - Same.
  9. 00:30:851 (4,1) - Same.
  10. 00:53:051 (3,1) - Call me nitpicky but this really caught my eye... Stack (1) properly under (3)'s end - right now it looks really awful. 00:55:151 (2) - might need to be moved a bit to respect spacing.
  11. 01:18:851 - Drag the break here so that it matches the beginning of the "caution" signs ? =o
  12. 02:38:051 (1) - I'm not sure this new combo is needed. Stick to two-objects combo pattern for this part ?
  13. 02:53:051 (1,2,3) - Bad pattern placement. Because of the slider, you miss both a new combo and a finish (thus a hitsound, making that part feel like something is missing) on the white tick.
Saten's Hard
  • Is fine.
Insane
  1. 00:22:451 (6,7,8,9) - My only concern is this, but the sliders fade out in time, so it's fine. Pointing out that I DID see it in case people whine.
Regou's Extra
  1. 01:10:451 (1) - I'd prefer you turn this slider to the other side. It was a bit hard to see as is.
  2. 01:25:901 (6) - Very surprising note. I found it to have awful flow because of the robotic movement needed to play it. Remove it, be it only for consistency and timeline symmetry ?
  3. 01:35:501 (6) - Same.
Taiko Muzukashii
  • I thought SV was 1.6 o.o
Taiko Oni
  1. The speedups were pretty random to me =x
  2. 02:20:051 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,1) - This overlap made (19) absolutely unreadable.
  3. 02:39:251 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - Finish note at the end of a 1/4 stream, which is unrankable unless the finish is made a kat.
  4. 02:57:851 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - same
Taiko Inner Oni
  1. 00:48:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - These speedups are too much, really. Reduce the gradual speedup so this is more readable
Roko-Don's Taiko Ura Oni
  • This is sexy. I love what you did with the kats.
Popping for the issues in the Oni. Please don't ask me to recheck this D:
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

Odaril wrote:

So... Just to make things clear, 8 difficulties is perfectly rankable and doesn't need an extra bubble. The rules that are being enforced are the ones that are in this thread. This doesn't need any further discussion.

That said, because I promised to mod this:
*gulps*

General
  1. "caution" has nothing to do there in tags. true
  2. 00:50:051 - Is the touhou fail sound in the song or in the SB ? If the SB, remove it - it completely covers the hitsounds put there.that's the song it-self lol
Normal
  • used all mods
Insane
  1. 00:22:451 (6,7,8,9) - My only concern is this, but the sliders fade out in time, so it's fine. Pointing out that I DID see it in case people whine. Okay, I will keep it then like this.
Taiko Oni
  1. The speedups were pretty random to me =x
  2. 02:20:051 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,1) - This overlap made (19) absolutely unreadable. Sorry, I disagree. I talked with the taiko community about this and everyone is fine with it. Also it's not a rule break and fits to the song pretty good like that, so don't need to worry. Also, the [Taiko Oni] is a copy of a video, so it's one more reason why I don't want to make big changes.
  3. 02:39:251 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - Finish note at the end of a 1/4 stream, which is unrankable unless the finish is made a kat. I was hoping no one would say something agains it at least because I didn't have want to change it since it is not my diff. but I agree with it.
  4. 02:57:851 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - same same
Taiko Inner Oni
  1. 00:48:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - These speedups are too much, really. Reduce the gradual speedup so this is more readable Same as above, just this time it's not a copy from a youtube video.
Popping for the issues in the Oni. Please don't ask me to recheck this D:
^ Sorry, I need to. orz
Yeah, was a really good Mod, thank you Odaril and Sakura Hana.
I will wait now for Regou.
Regou

Odaril wrote:

Regou's Extra
  1. 01:10:451 (1) - I'd prefer you turn this slider to the other side. It was a bit hard to see as is.
  2. 01:25:901 (6) - Very surprising note. I found it to have awful flow because of the robotic movement needed to play it. Remove it, be it only for consistency and timeline symmetry ?
  3. 01:35:501 (6) - Same.
All done~

Download: AU - Infinite of Nuclear Fusion (OnosakiHito) [Regou's Extra].osu
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Thank you, everything updated!

Edit: Anyway, so or so I will let it graveyard now, if some BAT mod it I have luck, if not nvm, tired of searching for bubble or something else.

Maybe I will be in some weeks before it get'äs graveyard in the mood to ask again...
Regou

OnosakiHito wrote:

Thank you, everything updated!

Edit: Anyway, so or so I will let it graveyard now, if some BAT mod it I have luck, if not nvm, tired of searching for bubble or something else.

Maybe I will be in some weeks before it get'äs graveyard in the mood to ask again...
Don't graveyard this please :(
Trust00
Muss das denn jetzt sein? Irgendein BAT musst doch wohl Zeit haben. Die map ist doch schon so gut wie komplet.
Zudem bist du im Moment der einzigste der zuverlässig genung ist diese Nuclear Fusion-Arranges gerankt zu bekommen.
Also schmeiß die Flinte nicht ins Korn.

Hey, BATs, I think this map-set has waited long enough. Don't you think so, too?
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
@Regou: Uuuuh... thank you for your stars but please don't waste them anymore. > <
I have much to do in real life and need to prepare my birthday, too. Also exams are begining so I can't waste much more time for this map.
As I said, I will get this ranked, but not now.

@Trust00: Was soll ich dazu sagen? Habe halt kaum noch Zeit und das weißt du.
Regou
Nah. Giving stars on this map is not kind of waste. @___@
btw good luck with your upcoming exam :P
Oh no please go find the BAT don't let this go to graveyard :(
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
We lost the game.
Saten
D:
Mercurial
dafuq in graveyard?
Saten

iMercurial wrote:

dafuq in graveyard?
p/1532611
DarkDunskin

OnosakiHito wrote:

We lost the game.
I'm sorry that happened -.-
Regou

OnosakiHito wrote:

We lost the game.
:cry:
Yuzeyun

Regou wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

We lost the game.
:cry:
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Project has been revive and baba's Insane has been deleted because it was more like a mess.
I will remap the Insane since I have more osu! experience now and the taiko diff's got some changed to fit the taiko rules.

Hope you guys support me.~
eikkaleyd
Ono go!!><
Mercurial
I'm glad to see this is happen again.
Saten
Hopefully things will go more smoothly this time :3
Yuugo
Ah man I'm so happy to see this map revived!
Aurele
Mhm. I just downloaded the Beatmap, and I only have two maps :


Can you full-submit again? o_o
ohand look @Insane : 16secs.
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

Yuugoh wrote:

Ah man I'm so happy to see this map revived!
You guys are making me really happy with your comments. ^^

@Gabe: I have fullsubmitted it once again. Insane is so short because I'm going to remap it.
Regou
Finally came back ;w;
EDIT: Have my stars once again :P
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
What the... Regou... this is awesome! lol
If this gets bubbled again, it will be 1# on the pending page.
Thank you really much for your support.

I will finish Insane when my next step in the exams is over.
eikkaleyd

OnosakiHito wrote:

What the... Regou... this is awesome! lol
If this gets bubbled again, it will be 1# on the pending page.
Thank you really much for your support.

I will finish Insane when my next step in the exams is over.
I'll come to mod osu!standard diffs if you need~ono
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

eikkaleyd wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

What the... Regou... this is awesome! lol
If this gets bubbled again, it will be 1# on the pending page.
Thank you really much for your support.

I will finish Insane when my next step in the exams is over.
I'll come to mod osu!standard diffs if you need~ono
This would be nice, thank you!
Unknownable_old
Inconsistency in AudioLeadIn:
- [Insane] : 1000 
- [Normal] : 1000
- [Extra] : 1000
- [Ura Oni] : 0
- [Hard] : 1000
- [Inner Oni] : 0
- [Muzukashii] : 0
- [Oni] : 0

Inconsistency in Tags:
- [Insane] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou 
- [Normal] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Extra] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu caution Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Ura Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Hard] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Inner Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Muzukashii] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
changed the tag. missed this totally.
But leedin is fine, since taiko dosen't need it.
(if it is unrankable, someone will tell me I guess)

Yeah, thank you.

Also I finished Insane now, so I will move it back to pending again! Please redownload it.
Shohei Ohtani
Swag

So anyways.

Insane:
00:13:151 (6) - Move this a bit to the right so there isn't an overlap
00:17:501 (6) - This slider looks really cramped
00:29:501 (6) - Space this out more?
01:40:601 (1) - Make this fade out to silence or add a finish?
02:49:151 (10) - Weird looking pattern ;~;
02:53:051 (5) - Make this curve more notable
02:58:751 (6) - nope

Extra:
00:31:151 - Unsnapped green section :>
02:03:851 (1) - Make this curve more notable

Hard:
Claps on 2 and 4! You do it well, but then you're like "LOL LET'S NOT PUT A CLAP HERE" and I'm like "nou!". Especially in the beginning
00:35:351 (7) - Add whistle
00:37:751 (7) - ^
02:45:401 (2) - Weird overlap o-o

Normal:
Claps on 2 and 4 :>
00:44:651 (3) - Put this in line with (1)

omgogmogm Utsuho so moe >33<~
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Updated Insane, thank you~
But can't give kudosus... o.o
,,You have been denied too many kudosu in the last week!"
I didn't gaved even any. lol
Regou
SPOILER
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Artist:AU
Creator:OnosakiHito
Version:Regou's Extra
Source:Touhou
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//Storyboard Sound Samples
Sample,78851,0,"caution.mp3",45
Sample,147701,0,"caution.mp3",45
Sample,157451,0,"caution2.mp3",45
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
^ Updated, thank you!
Also thanks Sakura for kudosu.
Saten
Let's Meltdown!
Sakisan
Got loads of SB errors before playing the map. Had to keep enter pressed for 15 seconds. And every one in the multiplayer had the same thing, please fix it.
Regou
Can't play my diff as the SB error gone crazy ;___;
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Fix'd, thank you guys. lol
Niko-nyan
Normal and insane by Lincolm

Saten's Hard
AR8 so fast @.@ sure i cannot pass this
all note no problem

Extra
maybe try CS+1 *suggest
and this is my 1st time see Ono ask me to mod his map LOL good luck to be ranked >w<
Frizz

frans_niko wrote:

Extra
maybe try CS+1 *suggest
Dear god no
Lincolm
Normal :
I like the normal.

[size=150]Insane [/size]:
OK, this is really insane. But, I don't find anything need to be changed. I like it.
00:11:651 - 00:30:851 : This part of song almost cannot be heared. Lower hit sound please?
01:27:701 (4) - It's touching health bar, it is fine?

Did not find anything for. All of the map just perfect for me. Some many taiko maps. Hope it get ranked. :)

I'm really sorry I didn't not do much help.
Frizz
Also me likes the music, have a star
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

frans_niko wrote:

and this is my 1st time see Ono ask me to mod his map LOL good luck to be ranked >w<
Everything has a beginning. haha
I will wait for Saten and Regou.
@Lincolm: I will think about both points, thank you for now, both to you~

@Frizz925: Oh, wow. Thank's man. Also I like your words under Doraemon. lol
Saten
AR8 is fine imo

Edit: some minor self fixes~
http://puu.sh/EmLS
Saturnalize
Say, open for mod or not?
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
^@: I will updated today satens mod. After that it is read for mod!
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Talked to Kurai about the BG. Loctav has edit it a bit so the shadow under her cape seams like a shadow now. haha
Please redownload or take the BG from here: http://puu.sh/Jidh
Regou
Oops, I am so sorry that I just saw that mod ><
i won't change the circle size. You know, it's challenging enough

oh you, it's my 700th post
Mercurial
Quick Check before bubble.

Tags: Saten is missing.
Missing Files: http://puu.sh/LUjf
Maybe an Epilepsy Warning.


Extra:

00:31:126 - Unsnapped Green Line

Yeah :3
Regou
Alright, the old one is bad, let's have a new one
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Saten

Regou wrote:

Alright, the old one is bad, let's have a new one
SPOILER
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[Metadata]
Title:Infinite of Nuclear Fusion
Artist:AU
Creator:OnosakiHito
Version:Regou's Extra
Source:Touhou
Tags:utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou

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//Background Colour Transformations
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Fixed
Regou
few notes less than Insane diff, and 1 combo more compare with Insane diff.
Maybe just call it "Regou" o.o
OD9 is cool!!!!!

http://puu.sh/M4It
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Thank you Regou~ I have uploaded your diff.
Also I changed some combo colours in the [Insane].
Saten has been added into the tags. (I gaved you the kd @ Mercurial because this is something unrankable, thank you!)

I will try to find some more mods.

(LoL, 12th page.)

FULLSUBMITTED
Saten
"Saten" should've been added, not changed

Add "Saten-san" too please
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
I will do it in the next update,
Loctav
As requested.

[Regou]

In general, this diff has huge spacing issues. While you have consistent music, the spacing varies alot and feels random to me. You should try to find some consistence, especially when you use the same slider-hitsound-slider-slider timing (aka hitobject timing). Consider reworking most in-pattern spacings. I'll bring along various patterns, which's spacing are okay (and state why) and some patterns which should be fixed. While checking this mod, you should go through your whole patterns and rethink if you can reason the spacing changes enough on the music.

Which seems fine:

00:04:451 (1,2,3,4) - this one is okay, since it's pretty symmetrical shaped and calls the same movement from the outer to the inner field from the right first, and then from the left.
00:09:251 (1,2,3,4) - this one is okay, since the flow is kept, even if the jump appears. First you move from 1 to 2 with a right down movement, then the 2 points up and makes you move towards the beginning of 3, which makes you run to the beginning of 4 again. Also it's symmetry seems fitting to me.
01:17:651 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - here, you place manually stacked doubles on one kind of music movement, and place properly snapped ones on another part. This plays excellent and feels excellent.

Which doesn't seem fine:

00:02:501 (2,3) - I consider this spacing as being weird, since it varies a lot and in an inconsistent way.. Especially because I'd expect the (4) to be before (3). I'd suggest something like this: http://puu.sh/MbZd
00:07:301 (4,5) - This stacking feels weird. Since you didnt stack the same on 00:02:501 (2,3) -, I'd suggest you to unstack the (4) from (5). Also consider to overwork the spacing as in 00:04:451 -
00:11:801 (1,2,3,4,5) - well, this one probably plays weird because you couldn't find a consistent spacing value. Consider putting everything on 2,5x if you really want to make it that jumpy.
00:12:851 (1,2) - this jump is so different from the jumps you did before. Also the direction the slider wents makes it even more jumpier (regardless of the spacing); the rapid down movement feels stupid and shouldn't be done. Maybe you can keep the flow when trying something like this: http://puu.sh/Mc9L - keep the spacing consistent, here.
00:17:051 (1,2) - I don't agree with such kind of jumps (and if I see it right, you did them several times). The music stays way too constant to call for such a jump. Especially due to the SV, the jump feels even more unexpected and random. You should reduce the spacing on such kind of jump. Maybe a not-so-drastic spacing would be sufficient, too. (if you really want to stay with the longslider-jump-shortsliders stuff)

00:26:051 (1,2,3,4) - this gives a nice pattern, but an unjustified jump. Maybe you can do a similiar pattern with lower spacing. Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/Mcmb
00:36:851 (1,2) - the music hasn't changed, so I see no reason why the spacing gets so high suddenly. The previous spots were fine (with the slow sliders and a bit higher spacing, so sliders are braking you somewhat)
00:39:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - oww, this is hard. The spacing varies so much from all ever before done streams that this was like "oh, what? this was 1/4? eww". If you want to keep it as hitcircle stream, decrease the spacing significantly. From what the music tells me (upward-downward movement) I'd place a repeatslider instead here instead. But this is free of your choice. And wow, this (9) is REALLY LOUD. (maybe decrease volume here?)
00:42:251 (1,4,5) - same spacing stuff as in 00:39:251 Since this kind of streams seems to appear very more often now, I'll refrain from pointing them up, anymore from here.
00:43:901 (5,6) - here is another jump that is totally random to me. Consider reducing the spacing here.
00:45:551 (2,3) - ^

00:49:451 (1,2,3,4) - 1/4 jumps (even for sliders) are very hard to play. This alternating playing is hard to do. Maybe you can consider lowering the spacing between the sliders. I personally dislike sliderstreams, but okay.
00:51:326 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - oh. stream-spacing-change. I know, you want to underline the acceleration here. But changing the spacing within a stream is really hard and really bad to play. Maybe you can make a repeat slider out of 00:51:251 (4,5,6,7) - so this issue gets nuked and you can freely go put the hitcircles on the accelerated part.
00:58:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is a super good example for inconsistent spacing. The pattern would look less messy and would play way better if you do a star-shaped pattern with consistent spacing (or less variation)
01:06:401 (6,7,8) - why don't you place the (7) in the middle-way between (6) and (8)? This would be way better playable.
01:29:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern would play really good here, if the spacing wouldn't be too large. Try to put (2) (4) (6) (8) closer together (same for 1,3,4,7) and then it should be solved.

01:39:326 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - despite the fact that you changed the spacing within a stream again, refrain from using 1/4 jumps (like from 01:39:476 (4) - to 01:39:551 (1) - ). Especially because the noise of the music isn't really jumping here and is pretty consistent, I see no reason to place a jump here (and 1/4 jumps are always 'eww'). I'd suggest to do a constant spaced stream.
01:50:201 (2,3) - I already stated my suggestion among this kind of jumps a lot before here. I won't point them up anymore.
01:50:651 (1,2,3) - I think this unexpected movement was intended, but it plays so weird. I would place (2) where (3) is and place (3) there where (2) is. Should be sufficient.
02:17:351 (6) - move it more towards (7) so the nonrequired jump gets killed.

02:43:151 (3,4) - this is also totally random to me. Put (4) closer to (3).
02:48:551 (2) - I would not expect this to be a 1/4 due to spacing. Stack it more under the end of (1)
02:58:451 (1,2,3,4,5) - I would pick the same spacing as in 02:57:851 (1,2,3,4) - or vica versa.


Other stuff:

00:11:951 (2) - Due to the flow (and the map lacks of it on many spots), you should bow (2) towards (3), so your movement gets directed to the next hitcircle (like being done with (4) to (5))
00:14:501 (3,4) - I would reverse the selection here (would result in this: http://puu.sh/McaO). This keeps the movement from (1) to (2) into (3) and feel better played in this zigzag movement than before.
00:15:551 (4) - placing this more upwards results in a better introduction to the stream beginning on (5). Doing this could also work: http://puu.sh/MccJ
00:18:851 (1,2,3,4) - (1) and (2) makes you move zigzag and (3), (4) and following are straight. Maybe you can consider creating also a zigzag movement for (3), (4) and following or kill the zigzag that (1) and (2) call for.
00:22:901 (2,3,4) - the direction of (2) and (3) towards the stream is a different than the slider (4) direction. Moving the slider endpoint more to the right should work. Fix the direction for 00:23:351 (5) - then, too.

00:24:251 (3,4,5,6) - the beginning of this running-around should begin closer to the end of (2)
00:31:751 (3,4) and following (till 00:33:101) - the hitobject timing is weird, since you place a slider right before the actual "holding tone" that comes right afterwards. Maybe you can try this: http://puu.sh/Mcp0
00:47:801 (2) - bow this one towards (3) to keep a small circle-like movement from (2) to (3).
00:48:401 (4) - don't place it downwards of (3). This kills the flow you just created with (3). Put it upwards, please.
01:51:551 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - remove the NCs, it's one self-contained pattern and should have the same combo color (without the lifebar bonus you get from passing this).



All in all, I think, most of jumps are random and are just placed to increase the difficulty artificially (intended or unintended doesn't matter). I know this is supposed to be an Extra, but well, im my opinion it looks drafty and needs a lot of work. Especially within certain patterns, you accidently destroyed their shape by messing around with the spacing too much. Keep in mind what I said on the beginning of the diff and recheck all the self-contained combos and patterns about their spacing and this diff might turn into a respectable Extra without troll patterns and lolhard jumps, when it doesn't even fit
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Thank you for mod Loctav, I hope Regou will consider this.
You deserv this kudosu.
lolcubes
Before I mod this into details, I will leave some pointers for Regou's diff, since it needs some adjustments. Currently I am not really content with ranking such an extreme mapset. So lets go.

[Regou]
*OD8 please. OD9 is cool, and even with OD9 I could keep decent accuracy (97~98) but the overall map type is quite jumpy and focuses more on physical strength rather than finesse. So lower the OD to 8 please.
*00:33:851 (2,3) - Nonono. It's cool, but it's too easy to sliderbreak. I strongly suggest to do something else, because this is the only moment you mapped in 1/8 which is very inconsistent (except for 00:39:851 (9) but this one is fine), there were tons of other moments you could have done so and you didn't (and don't please). Should change this.
*00:49:451 (1,2,3,4) - This is cool but it could use lower spacing, it's too jumpy at the moment.
*01:06:401 (6,7) - This jump is just random and unfitting. Change this.
*01:24:851 (1,2,3,4) - Lower the spacing a little bit, it's unsightly while playing, they are too close to the edge of the screen.
*01:29:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just no. This is a bit too hard. This is not an approval mapset where you can just go all out because you can, think of the players. I could actually hit all of these on occasions but they feel really bad. Change this please and lower the spacing.
*01:34:451 (1,2,3,4) - Lower the spacing just like the above.
*01:59:651 (1) - It's really far away, lower the spacing a little.
*02:41:051 (1) - This slider is too long, shorten it.
*02:48:251 (1) - This slider is also weird, you should probably remove the circle after it and make this slider longer.
*02:55:301 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just way over the top. Make this easier, the spacing here is way too big.

These are only gameplay issues I felt while playing the map a couple of times. Take these into consideration.
Don't kudosu this post.
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Thank you lolcubes as well, for now!
Saten
You know, "Saten-san" was enough. You'll still find find my maps by searching "Saten"
So that wasn't really an unrankable issue if you kds'ed for that Ono :P

It's up to you if you want more tags on the map~
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

Saten wrote:

You know, "Saten-san" was enough. You'll still find find my maps by searching "Saten"
So that wasn't really an unrankable issue if you kds'ed for that Ono :P

It's up to you if you want more tags on the map~
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO /o\
Regou

Loctav wrote:

As requested.

[Regou]

In general, this diff has huge spacing issues. While you have consistent music, the spacing varies alot and feels random to me. You should try to find some consistence, especially when you use the same slider-hitsound-slider-slider timing (aka hitobject timing). Consider reworking most in-pattern spacings. I'll bring along various patterns, which's spacing are okay (and state why) and some patterns which should be fixed. While checking this mod, you should go through your whole patterns and rethink if you can reason the spacing changes enough on the music.

Which doesn't seem fine:

00:02:501 (2,3) - I consider this spacing as being weird, since it varies a lot and in an inconsistent way.. Especially because I'd expect the (4) to be before (3). I'd suggest something like this: http://puu.sh/MbZd It's giving a oval flow, it's fine imo
00:07:301 (4,5) - This stacking feels weird. Since you didnt stack the same on 00:02:501 (2,3) -, I'd suggest you to unstack the (4) from (5). Also consider to overwork the spacing as in 00:04:451 - Somehow I felt so weird about this change (There's a jump before (4) and (5), so better keep this jump)
00:11:801 (1,2,3,4,5) - well, this one probably plays weird because you couldn't find a consistent spacing value. Consider putting everything on 2,5x if you really want to make it that jumpy. o.o...I have no idea, but but them in same spacing just look ugly
00:12:851 (1,2) - this jump is so different from the jumps you did before. Also the direction the slider wents makes it even more jumpier (regardless of the spacing); the rapid down movement feels stupid and shouldn't be done. Maybe you can keep the flow when trying something like this: http://puu.sh/Mc9L - keep the spacing consistent, here. Is this really difficult to play? I feel fine about this one.(And it can be play well while I test it)
00:17:051 (1,2) - I don't agree with such kind of jumps (and if I see it right, you did them several times). The music stays way too constant to call for such a jump. Especially due to the SV, the jump feels even more unexpected and random. You should reduce the spacing on such kind of jump. Maybe a not-so-drastic spacing would be sufficient, too. (if you really want to stay with the longslider-jump-shortsliders stuff) As I didn't change these kind of pattern in the previous one, I won't change this too

00:26:051 (1,2,3,4) - this gives a nice pattern, but an unjustified jump. Maybe you can do a similiar pattern with lower spacing. Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/Mcmb 00:25:751 (6) - is blanketing 00:26:051 (1) - , so just no
00:36:851 (1,2) - the music hasn't changed, so I see no reason why the spacing gets so high suddenly. The previous spots were fine (with the slow sliders and a bit higher spacing, so sliders are braking you somewhat) Ok, changed
00:39:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - oww, this is hard. The spacing varies so much from all ever before done streams that this was like "oh, what? this was 1/4? eww". If you want to keep it as hitcircle stream, decrease the spacing significantly. From what the music tells me (upward-downward movement) I'd place a repeatslider instead here instead. But this is free of your choice. And wow, this (9) is REALLY LOUD. (maybe decrease volume here?) Decreased the voloume for (9)
00:42:251 (1,4,5) - same spacing stuff as in 00:39:251 Since this kind of streams seems to appear very more often now, I'll refrain from pointing them up, anymore from here.
00:43:901 (5,6) - here is another jump that is totally random to me. Consider reducing the spacing here.
00:45:551 (2,3) - ^
I will keep this, in fact, they are not really a jump to me, it's just a enlarged-spacing stream pattern

00:49:451 (1,2,3,4) - 1/4 jumps (even for sliders) are very hard to play. This alternating playing is hard to do. Maybe you can consider lowering the spacing between the sliders. I personally dislike sliderstreams, but okay. Ctrl+R (2) and (4)
00:51:326 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - oh. stream-spacing-change. I know, you want to underline the acceleration here. But changing the spacing within a stream is really hard and really bad to play. Maybe you can make a repeat slider out of 00:51:251 (4,5,6,7) - so this issue gets nuked and you can freely go put the hitcircles on the accelerated part. [color}#FF0000]The voloume is getting louder there, so I think this is ok[/color]
00:58:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is a super good example for inconsistent spacing. The pattern would look less messy and would play way better if you do a star-shaped pattern with consistent spacing (or less variation)Ok, change them into normal spacing
01:06:401 (6,7,8) - why don't you place the (7) in the middle-way between (6) and (8)? This would be way better playable.
01:29:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern would play really good here, if the spacing wouldn't be too large. Try to put (2) (4) (6) (8) closer together (same for 1,3,4,7) and then it should be solved. 0.9x spacing here

01:39:326 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - despite the fact that you changed the spacing within a stream again, refrain from using 1/4 jumps (like from 01:39:476 (4) - to 01:39:551 (1) - ). Especially because the noise of the music isn't really jumping here and is pretty consistent, I see no reason to place a jump here (and 1/4 jumps are always 'eww'). I'd suggest to do a constant spaced stream. Errr ok then
01:50:201 (2,3) - I already stated my suggestion among this kind of jumps a lot before here. I won't point them up anymore. I won't change these pattern. Please, respect my mapping style. It actually can play well and easily readable, and I think it's fun to play.
01:50:651 (1,2,3) - I think this unexpected movement was intended, but it plays so weird. I would place (2) where (3) is and place (3) there where (2) is. Should be sufficient. ok
02:17:351 (6) - move it more towards (7) so the nonrequired jump gets killed. ok

02:43:151 (3,4) - this is also totally random to me. Put (4) closer to (3). [color=##FF0000]The SV here is higher, so the spacing should be larger too[/color]
02:48:551 (2) - I would not expect this to be a 1/4 due to spacing. Stack it more under the end of (1) Deleted this note, as it sounds better
02:58:451 (1,2,3,4,5) - I would pick the same spacing as in 02:57:851 (1,2,3,4) - or vica versa. I think the anti-jump do fit here


Other stuff:

00:11:951 (2) - Due to the flow (and the map lacks of it on many spots), you should bow (2) towards (3), so your movement gets directed to the next hitcircle (like being done with (4) to (5)) ok
00:14:501 (3,4) - I would reverse the selection here (would result in this: http://puu.sh/McaO). This keeps the movement from (1) to (2) into (3) and feel better played in this zigzag movement than before. I really don't like this change, sorry
00:15:551 (4) - placing this more upwards results in a better introduction to the stream beginning on (5). Doing this could also work: http://puu.sh/MccJ ok
00:18:851 (1,2,3,4) - (1) and (2) makes you move zigzag and (3), (4) and following are straight. Maybe you can consider creating also a zigzag movement for (3), (4) and following or kill the zigzag that (1) and (2) call for. Hope I'm fixing this correct
00:22:901 (2,3,4) - the direction of (2) and (3) towards the stream is a different than the slider (4) direction. Moving the slider endpoint more to the right should work. Fix the direction for 00:23:351 (5) - then, too. Fixed

00:24:251 (3,4,5,6) - the beginning of this running-around should begin closer to the end of (2) They are blanketing the beginning of (2)
00:31:751 (3,4) and following (till 00:33:101) - the hitobject timing is weird, since you place a slider right before the actual "holding tone" that comes right afterwards. Maybe you can try this: http://puu.sh/Mcp0 o.o
00:47:801 (2) - bow this one towards (3) to keep a small circle-like movement from (2) to (3). I want to overlap the end of (2) on 00:46:751 (8) - , so no
00:48:401 (4) - don't place it downwards of (3). This kills the flow you just created with (3). Put it upwards, please. imo, put (4) upward just make the jump weird
01:51:551 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - remove the NCs, it's one self-contained pattern and should have the same combo color (without the lifebar bonus you get from passing this). ok



All in all, I think, most of jumps are random and are just placed to increase the difficulty artificially (intended or unintended doesn't matter). I know this is supposed to be an Extra, but well, im my opinion it looks drafty and needs a lot of work. Especially within certain patterns, you accidently destroyed their shape by messing around with the spacing too much. Keep in mind what I said on the beginning of the diff and recheck all the self-contained combos and patterns about their spacing and this diff might turn into a respectable Extra without troll patterns and lolhard jumps, when it doesn't even fit

lolcubes wrote:

Before I mod this into details, I will leave some pointers for Regou's diff, since it needs some adjustments. Currently I am not really content with ranking such an extreme mapset. So lets go.

[Regou]
*OD8 please. OD9 is cool, and even with OD9 I could keep decent accuracy (97~98) but the overall map type is quite jumpy and focuses more on physical strength rather than finesse. So lower the OD to 8 please. Diff spread. As ono use HD5 and OD8 in his diff, so I just +1 on each of them.
*00:33:851 (2,3) - Nonono. It's cool, but it's too easy to sliderbreak. I strongly suggest to do something else, because this is the only moment you mapped in 1/8 which is very inconsistent (except for 00:39:851 (9) but this one is fine), there were tons of other moments you could have done so and you didn't (and don't please). Should change this. ok then
*00:49:451 (1,2,3,4) - This is cool but it could use lower spacing, it's too jumpy at the moment. Changed this on the above mod
*01:06:401 (6,7) - This jump is just random and unfitting. Change this. Changed the pattern
*01:24:851 (1,2,3,4) - Lower the spacing a little bit, it's unsightly while playing, they are too close to the edge of the screen. So, it's still not offscreen \:D/
*01:29:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just no. This is a bit too hard. This is not an approval mapset where you can just go all out because you can, think of the players. I could actually hit all of these on occasions but they feel really bad. Change this please and lower the spacing.[color=8000FF]Changed this on the above mod[/color]
*01:34:451 (1,2,3,4) - Lower the spacing just like the above. Same.
*01:59:651 (1) - It's really far away, lower the spacing a little. Ok
*02:41:051 (1) - This slider is too long, shorten it. o.o ok
*02:48:251 (1) - This slider is also weird, you should probably remove the circle after it and make this slider longer.Changed this on the above mod
*02:55:301 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just way over the top. Make this easier, the spacing here is way too big. o.o That's why it's a Extra diff

These are only gameplay issues I felt while playing the map a couple of times. Take these into consideration.
Don't kudosu this post.
http://puu.sh/MrRm
Ulysses
I find someone is bitching the highest diff,
first of all may you define WHAT IS RANDOM SPACING

Do you want Regou to map with a shitty distance snap all the time or something like that?
lolcubes
Random spacing is when you just change your spacing when you want, when it doesn't really fit the music.
I thought this was obvious?

Regou wrote:

*02:55:301 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just way over the top. Make this easier, the spacing here is way too big. o.o That's why it's a Extra diff
It's extra diff even without this crazy thing. You can still keep it's shape but lower the spacing, and it will still be very hard. I am ok if you really want to keep the OD at 9 though.
Regou
Ok...but I have to sleep now, so Ono may you please help me to fix that pattern ;___;
Ulysses

lolcubes wrote:

Random spacing is when you just change your spacing when you want, when it doesn't really fit the music.
I thought this was obvious?

Regou wrote:

*02:55:301 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just way over the top. Make this easier, the spacing here is way too big. o.o That's why it's a Extra diff
It's extra diff even without this crazy thing. You can still keep it's shape but lower the spacing, and it will still be very hard. I am ok if you really want to keep the OD at 9 though.
I'm not asking "your definite,I'm asking the huge mod modder.
I'm fine with your suggestions,but not hims.
He pointed out many "random spacing" that I don't think they're random.
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
For now I updated your recent changes Regou.
Loctav
This is only statement of my opinion. If you don't agree to it, it's fine. You are not forced to be the same opinion as mine. At least you should try out my suggestions and maybe see it from a different perspective. I see no reason to call that 'bitching'. Discussion about this is pointless.
Regou
Alright, I'm back to HK now :3
0.9x spacing for that pattern
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//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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384,96,176651,6,0,B|448:72|516:124,1,116.999994644165,0|0
408,276,176951,2,0,B|156:300,1,233.999989288331,8|4
12,328,177401,1,0
64,140,177551,1,8
228,116,177701,1,0
228,116,177776,1,0
228,116,177851,5,0
300,148,178001,1,0
368,180,178151,1,0
436,212,178301,1,0
320,360,178451,5,0
304,344,178601,1,0
296,324,178751,1,8
296,300,178901,1,0
304,280,179051,1,0
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
@Regou:

Haaaaa... I talked to some BAT's now for a really long time. 4 of 5 said something agains the diff.. three of the 4 BAT's are even the opinion to delete the diff..
Most problem here is the spacing and the lvl spread in the diff.. They also told me that they don't want to rank it in this way, just without it would work.

My problem here is, I can't consider that because, I have a way to small knowledge about osu!, and playing such stuff is impossible for me.
Also I have nearly no time anymore for this project if it keeps continue like that, because I will go soon to the university, there I will have not that much time in osu like before.

So what do you think we should do now?

My suggestion was to delete it as the BATs said and add it as external link.
For this free solt, I would add a Taiko Futsuu then.
Saten
The only thing that bothers me is that it has star rating: 4,90 which will not appear below Insane on the map selection (I would suggest that you used the typical settings HPD 7 & OD 7)
and the exact same combo as Insane (if you were to increase the tickrate by 1 you would get 1000x)
Regou
Sorry if my diff make this map unrankable.
Just delete my diff then.


Okay, my diff sucks
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
^@: I have talked to nold. He will mod it once again. I will also ask lolcubes to mod it if possible.
I have also asked wmfchris. He has similiar opinion like lolcubes. Better if you change the stuff they tell you?
Regou
It won't help anything as BATs not willing to rank this, even check this again. 3 BATs even suggest to remove my diff. Huh.
Remove my diff will help you with getting this 11 month old map ranked, perhaps.
To nold: ...uh thanks for your mod first but, you see. This won't make BATs change their mind.
Ulysses
Hi Regou,
talked with ono and something should be changed to make your diff more acceptable for someone.

[General]

AI BAT told me:

Inconsistency in Tags: - [Insane] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Normal] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Regou] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Roko-Don's Taiko Ura Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Saten's Hard] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Taiko Inner Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Taiko Muzukashii] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Taiko Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou



[Regou]

00:39:851 (9) - Unsnapped slider end.Hmm..it's not 1/8,use 1/8?
-Also,end on 00:40:151 ?

01:29:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think someone mentioned it b4,I have to doubt it again.
Reason: It's the biggest jump in this map.This jump makes the map sperad inconsistant.
Try to fix it's spacing lower.
Like this.

It makes the feeling you want too.


01:39:251 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think this 1/4 stream jump makes no sense.Since really no other sound on 01:39:551. Do it like this.

01:59:501 (8,1) - As lolcubes said,too far.I misses this 2 times in test mode.Put it on x256,y300 looks better for me.Or x460,y284.

02:55:301 (5) - 2 notes plz can't stop missing this

02:55:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Died here.lolcubes mentioned it b4,your reply was"that's why it's a extra."I think it's not a reason to put a huge spacing like this one.Comparing to other jumps/parts,this jump is too huge.[url]=http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/396041]0.8x[/url] it .

02:57:851 (1,2,3,4) - I read it as a 1/4 in my first play since you used this spacing as 1/4 before on 02:43:301 (4,5,1) -
02:45:701 (1,2,3) -
02:48:101 (7,8,1) -
etc and etc.

So try this

18:52 nold_1702: : 00:15:851 (9,10,11,12) - 
18:52 nold_1702: : hope no slider stream in your insane
18:53 nold_1702: : 00:48:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - and this stream looks bad.
18:53 nold_1702: : is ugly
18:54 nold_1702: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/396048
18:54 nold_1702: : I suppose you will fix them like this
18:56 OnosakiHito: : oh
18:56 OnosakiHito: : this one is better
18:57 OnosakiHito: : god damn it
18:57 OnosakiHito: : I can't do it so round as you did
18:57 nold_1702: : let me give you code
18:58 OnosakiHito: : please
18:58 OnosakiHito: : lol
18:58 OnosakiHito: : make sure
18:58 OnosakiHito: : you have the latest update
18:58 OnosakiHito: : lol
18:58 nold_1702: : opp fuck I update it xp
18:58 OnosakiHito: : XD
18:59 OnosakiHito: : wait
18:59 OnosakiHito: : I DID IT
18:59 OnosakiHito: : WUHUUUUUUUUU
18:59 nold_1702: : lol
18:59 OnosakiHito: : loool
18:59 nold_1702: : ww
18:59 OnosakiHito: : xD
19:00 OnosakiHito: : What should I do with
19:00 OnosakiHito: : 00:15:851 (9,10,11,12) -
19:00 OnosakiHito: : ?
19:00 nold_1702: : note stream
19:00 OnosakiHito: : No sliders?
19:00 OnosakiHito: : ah
19:00 OnosakiHito: : ok
19:00 nold_1702: : it's not fit here
19:00 OnosakiHito: : Please add this in your post as well
19:00 OnosakiHito: : so people see what I changed.
19:00 OnosakiHito: : :)
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

Regou wrote:

It won't help anything as BATs not willing to rank this, even check this again. 3 BATs even suggest to remove my diff. Huh.
Remove my diff will help youbwith getting this 11 month old map ranked, perhaps.
Well, lolcubes has there another view. I think it would be not bad if we talk together in a multi about this?
If lolcubes has time, he could tell you the problems.
Regou
Let's try this again.

nold_1702 wrote:

Hi Regou,
talked with ono and something should be changed to make your diff more acceptable for someone.

[General]

AI BAT told me:

Inconsistency in Tags: - [Insane] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Normal] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Regou] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten-san Regou
- [Roko-Don's Taiko Ura Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Saten's Hard] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Taiko Inner Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Taiko Muzukashii] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
- [Taiko Oni] : utsuho reiuji nuclear fusion okuu Rokodo Saten Regou
fixed


[Regou]

00:39:851 (9) - Unsnapped slider end.Hmm..it's not 1/8,use 1/8? fixed
-Also,end on 00:40:151 ? fixed

01:29:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think someone mentioned it b4,I have to doubt it again.
Reason: It's the biggest jump in this map.This jump makes the map sperad inconsistant.
Try to fix it's spacing lower.
Like this.

It makes the feeling you want too.
Changed that pattern

01:39:251 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think this 1/4 stream jump makes no sense.Since really no other sound on 01:39:551. Do it like this. fixed

01:59:501 (8,1) - As lolcubes said,too far.I misses this 2 times in test mode.Put it on x256,y300 looks better for me.Or x460,y284. x460 y316.

02:55:301 (5) - 2 notes plz can't stop missing this

02:55:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Died here.lolcubes mentioned it b4,your reply was"that's why it's a extra."I think it's not a reason to put a huge spacing like this one.Comparing to other jumps/parts,this jump is too huge.[url]=http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/396041]0.8x[/url] it .

02:57:851 (1,2,3,4) - I read it as a 1/4 in my first play since you used this spacing as 1/4 before on 02:43:301 (4,5,1) -
02:45:701 (1,2,3) -
02:48:101 (7,8,1) -
etc and etc.

So try this
ok
And fixed everything lolcubes said.(except OD9)

For diff star rating....
When I use HP6+OD8 -> My diff shows below ono's diff, while the score is lower then ono's diff(which makes no sense)
When I use HP6+OD9 -> My diff shows above ono's diff, but the score is higher
When I use HP7+OD9 -> ^(Although it's already star rated 5.00)
I believe HP6+OD9 is the best one.
http://puu.sh/PXEr
Saten
That's why you should increase the slider tickrate :P (You'll get 17mil as max score)
Plus it sounds better overall imo~ and good for the slowdown parts etc
Regou
Ulysses
Yeah,self-confident Regou is back!
Regou
lol
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
[Regou's Extra]

01:39:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Are you sure about this jump there? Could confuse players. Maybe having a whole stream without a gap would be better.
02:57:851 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Similiar here.
Regou

OnosakiHito wrote:

[Regou's Extra]

01:39:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Are you sure about this jump there? Could confuse players. Maybe having a whole stream without a gap would be better.
02:57:851 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Similiar here.
Sorry that I just saw this...
I change the first one while I didn't fix the second one. The second one is just a 1/2 anti-jump, players should properly have enough time to notice this and it gives the feeling of "ending"...
http://puu.sh/WGv8
Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
updated. Thank you~
Chewin
Hi Ono, mod requested via MP o.o

[General]

  1. You must add a sliderborder because you are using a custom hitcircle set
  2. Add an "approachcircle.png" to complete the hitcircle skin set
  3. Remove nuclear fusion from the tags, it's already in the song's title
  4. Add "Saten-San" and not only Saten to Reogou's tags
  5. Remove AudioLeadIns from standard diff
  6. I don't agree about the huge jump that there is from normal diff to the hard one. The hard one is really too hard to be just the 2nd diff of your mapset. It'd be perfect if you decided to make an easy diff.
  7. Rename the "Regou" diff in "Regou's Insane".
[Normal]

  1. Since this is the easiest diff of your mapset you should decrease the AR by 1.
  2. 00:05:651 (1) - Remove new combo
  3. 00:07:451 (3) - Add new combo
  4. 00:08:651 (1) - Remove new combo
  5. 00:20:351 (3) - We should try to make it easier. Remove this circle, it's useless and overmapped IMO for the easiest diff
  6. 00:21:851 (2) - So much repeats for the easiest diff, novice players don't know when they have to stop to click it. It'd be much better to remove a repeat from here, and doing the same thing for next sliders: 00:24:251 (2) / 00:26:651 (2) etc.
  7. 01:06:551 (5) - Remove circle
  8. 01:23:651 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Too huge spacing to play for the easiest diff. Use distance snap here
  9. 01:33:851 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^
  10. 01:38:051 (4) - New combo
[Regou]

  1. 00:11:351 (4) - What about to use New Combo here to advice player about the SV and spacing changes?
  2. 00:43:901 (5) - This slider touches the HP bar. You should move it somewhere else
  3. 00:52:451 (1) - ^
  4. 01:06:851 (1) - ^
  5. 01:17:651 (3) - I'd use new combo here
  6. Nice diff, I liked it
[Insane]

  1. 00:10:451 (4) - New combo even to advice player about the reduced spacing between 00:10:451 (4,5,6)
  2. 00:28:451 (1) - Move this slider to x:244 y:276 and the 2nd waypoint on x:304 y:328 to have a "straight" trajectory starting from that stream
  3. 00:34:076 (6) - This circle is overmapped, you can remove it
  4. 00:49:451 (1) - New combo
  5. 01:10:451 (9) - ^
  6. 01:14:051 (7,1) - Remove new combo from (7) and add it on (1)
  7. 01:16:751 (6) - New combo
  8. 01:22:151 (4) - Unrankable slider because totally overlapped with the previous 01:21:551 (2) and then unreadable
  9. 01:27:701 (4) - This circle touches the HP bar. Move it.
  10. 01:38:201 (5) - Reduce this slider by 1/2 and add a circle on the next empty white line. Use new combo on this slider btw.
  11. 01:38:801 - Add circle here too following my suggestion above
  12. 01:59:651 (1) - New combo? It'd be awesome
  13. 02:16:901 (5) - New combo
  14. 02:34:001 (7) - ^
That's it :)
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