forum

Milky Bunny - I Wish (TV Size)

posted
Total Posts
103
show more
Topic Starter
Yasora
thanks all
updated
Star Stream
From my queue

[General]
  1. Offset -6~10
  2. reduce volume by 20% plz, it's pretty noisy especially with Miya's diff
[Easy]
  1. 00:09:884 - add a circle? compare with previous notes, feels too empty
  2. 00:12:847 - ^
  3. 00:15:810 - ^
  4. 00:25:810 (1) - remove NC, like these 00:18:773 (1,2,1,2,3) -
  5. 00:37:662 (1) - ^
  6. 00:45:440 (2) - the arrow is not fit with music at all, i'd use 2/1 slider and add a circle

[Normal]
  1. 00:04:699 (3) - NC to follow your combo rhythm
  2. 00:08:032 (4) - ^
  3. 00:15:069 (3,1) - switch NC, you put NC on downbeats
  4. 01:05:810 (3) - NC here, re-started lyrics
  5. 01:13:403 (5) - 1 grid left to be symmetry with 01:13:032 (4) - ?
[Hard]
  1. 01:06:736 (1) - remove NC
[Miya]
  1. 00:28:032 (4) - replace with 2 circles and NC at 00:28:217 - to emphasize this strong beats
  2. 01:12:662 (3) - NC to ^
  3. 01:24:514 (3) - ^
[Insane]
  1. 00:07:477 (1,4) - remove whistle from 00:07:662 - and add on 00:07:477 - and 00:08:773 -
  2. 00:10:440 (1,2,3) - remove whistle from 00:10:625 - and add on 00:10:440 - and 00:10:995 - and 00:11:736 -
  3. 00:13:403 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  4. 00:16:366 (1,2,3) - ^
  5. 00:24:329 (2) - move up to y:244 will be more soft jump
  6. 01:07:106 (5,7) - ctrl+r (don't drag) will be really fun
  7. 01:14:329 - ~ same whistle sounds suggestion with 00:07:477 (1,4) -
Good luck
Miya
I don't agree with your new combo pattern because i want to put new combo consistantly every 2 stanza.
So no change with my diff. Thank you :)
phonic
As your request from my queue


General

  1. BG not beautiful, Is better to use this or this

Easy

  1. 00:39:884 (1) - This suggestion
  2. 00:40:625 (x) - Add finish
  3. 01:24:884 (3) - Remove new combo?

Normal

  1. 00:35:254 (x) - Add note?
  2. 01:24:514 (3) - Add new combo
  3. 01:25:625 (1) - Remove new combo

That's all
Topic Starter
Yasora
@phonic: sorry I don't want to change the BG. I guess more cool my bg than yours :'>
then, thanks for mod
Sync
Hey, just thought I would poke in and say a few things.

I was looking over Insane and there are a lot of structural problems.

When constructing sliders, make sure that their start-points are on heavier beats than the end points. It's important to stress the beats. This happens quite a lot in and it really needed to be addressed. Take a look at what I said on a different post, it might help clear things up:

"... there is one huge structural problem that itched at me while playing and modding -- you're placing sliders incorrectly. When following the beat (this does not apply to standalone vocals/melody), slider ends need to be on lighter beats than the start point, as noted above most of the time. Not following this rule makes combo-placement hard and imprecise; combos detail a change in the music. Whether it be a new stanza/downbeat, transition, or a dramatic section of the music, ending sliders on them don't allow you to emphasize them accordingly."
This is a very common mistake mappers tend to make and it is a huge detriment to the intuitiveness of the map. I want you to through your difficulties and fix it whenever it happens. Doing this will make your map better. Plain and simple.

I'll point out a few instances. Remember, this is on Insane.

00:01:366 (1) - Your beat placement is incorrect. You should not be ending slider-ends on downbeats likes this because it does not stress the beat enough. Plain and simple, it's bad structure. Remove the repeat and add a hit circle at 00:01:736 (6) along with a new combo.

00:03:032 (1) - Again, you're ending sliders on a downbeat. I suggest deleting this slider, making 00:02:847 (8) into a 1/2-beat slider, and adding a hit circle at 00:03:217 (1) with a new combo. Timeline Reference

00:04:143 (6,1) - Ending sliders on heavier beats than what their start-points are on is bad beat-placement.

Also, take note of what I said about combos. All of your combos should make sense. Take a close look at your combo patterns and fix them accordingly.

Now, with that being said, when you believe that your map is the best it can possibly be and that every note, combo, hitsound, and anchor node are there for a reason, PM me and I'll take another look.
Miya
Many mapper has do the same thing like this. So it will not be a problem. Besides this is not in guidelines and rule. So this not supposed to be to taking it seriously.
Topic Starter
Yasora
just fixed what you said in insane >< (the 3 mods)
I don't feel that wrong if ended the slider in the downbeat. I just following the vocal and really feel the rhythm.
I'm very support what miya said.
about hitsounding I following the drum sound and some rhythm to make the hitsound isn't boring.
and about comboing, the others modder and some MATs aren't too much notice that. so, I think that has no problem.
thank you Sync (:
Sync
It's bad beat placement and does not represent the music properly. As this is a rhythm game, I believe that beat-placement is one of the most important factors. I will only bubble a map if it is up to my standards. I'm willing to go and point every single instance of it out via IRC if you're willing to work with me, Yasora. It will take a lot of work. I will not go out of my way to unbubble this if a different map doesn't see this as a problem (though they should).

Thanks for understanding.
Miya
just search for other MAT, yasora >.>
other MAT will not look this as a problem.
Topic Starter
Yasora
orz ;_;
so sad
those
Hi. After a month of not looking at this map and gaining more modding experience, I'm giving you a little bit of my insight.

13:36 <those> : The idea that non-downbeat sliders are prominent is a problem.
13:36 <those> : It's okay to have them, but a lot of these sliders are misplaced in time.
13:37 <those> : In addition, current orientation and positioning of these sliders creates a very untidy feel.
13:37 <those> : It's partially AR9's fault, as well.

To summarize, your Insane needs a bit of work and improvement. The placement of the objects in space and time are a little awkward to play.
Topic Starter
Yasora
:|
oh well..
I will remap my insane


done just 1 hour owo)b
Miya
Little suggestion in irc :3

Sumarry :
  1. Fixing the stream when approach kiai time.
  2. Adding more jump due to inconsistencies.
  3. Adding last note in before last spinner.
log
10:49 <Yasora> : tolong play test dong
10:49 *Yasora is listening to (Milky Bunny - I Wish (TV Size))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/48449]
10:50 <Miya> : hmm, ok
10:50 <Miya> : bntr ya
10:50 <Yasora> : oke
10:52 <Miya> : wah
10:52 <Miya> : terakhirnya ada anti jumpnya ya?
10:52 <Yasora> : pas miss pas nge-lag @_@
10:52 <Yasora> : iyah
10:52 <Miya> : pantesan kurang enak terakhir ngejumpnya >.<
10:53 <Yasora> : variasi trap
10:53 <Yasora> : lol
10:53 <Yasora> : anyway
10:53 <Yasora> : itu stream pas mau kiai nya enak ga?
10:53 <Yasora> : kurang meyakinkan
10:53 <Miya> : enak aja
10:53 <Miya> : coba sih play test lagi
10:55 <Miya> : mmm
10:55 <Yasora> : wogh
10:55 <Yasora> : ak baru nyadar agnes jadi bat
10:55 <Miya> : :o
10:56 <Miya> : uda dari kemaren
10:56 <Miya> : lol
10:56 <Miya> : btw
10:56 <Miya> : mending dijadiin satu deh
10:56 <Yasora> : ya?
10:56 <Yasora> : yang mn?
10:56 <Miya> : 00:53:125- tambah circle disini
10:56 <Miya> : terus jadiin satu stream
10:56 <Yasora> : oh oke
10:56 <Miya> : lebih enak dimaenin :3
10:57 <Yasora> : ncip owo)b
10:57 <Yasora> : ada lagi?
10:57 <Miya> : ada
10:57 <Miya> : kt miya jump terakhirnya mending di tinggin spacingnya
10:58 <Yasora> : owo
10:58 <Yasora> : ?
10:58 <Yasora> : ho ic :o
10:58 <Miya> : 01:14:699 (2,3,4,5,6) -
10:58 <Yasora> : loh itukan pake ds
10:58 <Yasora> : @_@
10:58 <Miya> : di scalenya 1.365 x
10:59 <Miya> : ya gpp kalo mau di jump
10:59 <Miya> : asal lainnya jg ikut di jump
10:59 <Yasora> : @_@
10:59 <Miya> : 01:17:292 (1,2,3,4,5) -
10:59 <Miya> : itu juga bisa ctrl+shift+s
10:59 <Miya> : ini jg
11:00 <Miya> : soalnya yasora ngejump dsni >.<
11:00 <Miya> : 01:23:217 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
11:00 <Yasora> : owo
11:00 <Miya> : oh ya
11:00 <Yasora> : ?
11:00 <Miya> : terakhirnya mending spinnernya dipendikin 1/4
11:01 <Miya> : trus dikasih note dengan finish disini 01:26:180
11:01 <Miya> : 01:26:180-
11:01 <Yasora> : ho ic
11:01 <Yasora> : dah
11:02 <Miya> : dah, itu aja mungkin yang g enaknya :3
11:02 <Yasora> : sip owo)b
11:02 <Yasora> : masukkin trit aja
11:02 <Miya> : hmm ok >.<
Topic Starter
Yasora
arigatou /w\
updated~
DJPop
Patterns are fine for me, mostly are hitsound & timing mods.


~All diffs~
01:26:273 (1) - (nazi) end at 01:28:526 (1/6 snap)
I accidentally noticed it was ended earlier than bass drum sound...


~Easy~
00:29:329 (3) - use normal hitsound on the end of slider
00:41:736 - use normal hitsound
00:42:106 - remove this timing
00:53:588 - use normal hitsound
00:53:958 - remove this timing
01:12:106 (1) - add finish at middle
01:12:662 - use soft hitsound
01:13:032 - remove this timing
01:13:958 - use normal hitsound
01:14:329 - ^
01:14:699 - remove this timing
01:24:329 (2) - add finish at the end
01:24:514 - use soft hitsound
01:24:884 (3) - add finish at start and middle
01:25:625 - use normal hitsound

~Normal~
00:05:440 (4) - add clap at the end
00:18:403 - move this timing to 00:18:217
00:53:588 - use normal hitsound
00:53:958 - remove this timing
01:12:662 - use soft hitsound
01:13:032 - remove this timing
01:13:958 - use normal hitsound
01:14:329 - ^
01:14:699 - remove this timing

~Hard~
00:05:254 (6) - remove clap
00:19:143 (4) - remove clap at the middle
00:20:625 (4) - ^
00:41:736 - use normal hitsound
00:42:106 - remove this timing
00:42:106 (2) - remove finish, extend its repeat by 1, add clap at middle
00:42:662 (3) - remove this note
00:42:847 (1) - move to 00:43:032, add clap at the end
00:43:403 (2) - remove this note
00:50:625 (6) - add finish at start
00:53:588 - use normal hitsound
00:53:958 - remove this timing
01:10:810 (6) - remove clap
01:12:662 - use soft hitsound
01:13:032 - remove this timing
01:13:958 - use normal hitsound
01:14:329 - ^
01:14:699 - remove this timing

~Miya~
00:53:588 - use normal hitsound
01:05:440 - ^

~Insane~
00:53:588 - use normal hitsound
00:53:773 - remove this timing
01:12:662 - use soft hitsound
01:14:329 (1) - use normal hitsound
01:20:810 (1) - remove new combo
01:20:995 (2) - add new combo
Miya
Sorry DJPop, i don't think normal finish sound isn't good when mixed with the soft one. :(
Topic Starter
Yasora
thanks djpop
updated ~
Mercurial
General
Going for bubbling /o/

Normal
00:04:699 (3) NC for consistency with previous combos.
00:07:292 (3) Vocal Rhythm Changes needs a NC.
00:16:180 (2) For symmetry, 1 grid down, 1 grid left.
00:24:329 (3) NC
00:37:292 (3) ^
01:06:551 (4,5) If you swap the place of the Circle and the Kickback slider, you'll get a better rhythm imo... anyway, if you make this change, remove the clap at the finish of the slider and put it in the start of the slider. And make this symmetry http://puu.sh/wxl3
01:08:403 (1) Remove NC.
01:09:143 (2) 1 grid up for consistency with the next slider.

Hard
00:05:810 (1) Remove NC
00:42:106 (2) NC for vocals.
00:42:847 (4) Remove NC and put NC in 00:43:588.
00:50:625 (6) NC
00:51:736 (1) Remove NC
00:53:217 (1) Revove NC Again, this combo MUST follow the previous combo. The Kiai must start with a NC.
00:56:551 (1) Remove NC
01:00:069 (3) NC

Miya
I was expecting a "ZOMG SUPER INSANE AND GOD (Yeah, GOD) PATTERNS MAP", but I expected too much I think, I can't find anything, but this mapping is very basic, annoying and bored to play.

Insane
00:10:440 (7) NC
00:13:403 (7) ^ Watch out, the vocals/rhythm changes deserves a NC, ALWAYS.
00:16:366 (7) ^
00:56:551 (1) Remove NC
01:08:403 (1) ^

Good Luck on Rank it.
Topic Starter
Yasora
thank you
updated again ~
Miya
Yasora is not asking me to make super insane diff. But she ask me to make a second hard diff ._.
Mercurial
So just name it "Miya's Hard", and everybody will be happy.
Miya
hmm, ok. Yasora please renane my diff,
Topic Starter
Yasora
renamed
you happy now?
Mercurial
Yes.
DJPop
Some additional mods.


~Normal~
00:05:995 (1) - no NC
00:06:551 (2) - NC
00:07:292 (1) - no NC
00:08:032 (2) - NC

~Hard~
00:50:625 (6) - NC
00:51:736 (1) - no NC
00:53:217 (1) - ^
00:53:958 (2) - NC
00:58:773 (1) - no NC
00:59:699 (2) - NC
01:02:106 (1) - no NC
01:02:847 (2) - NC
01:06:736 (1) - no NC


no kds
Topic Starter
Yasora
ok fixed all =w= thank you
updated ~
DJPop
Bubble
Topic Starter
Yasora
arigatou ><///
Miya
Yay :D
Aleks719
Video
Video contains noiseless audio and it (audio) takes free space. Remove it from videofile, please
Insane
01:09:051 - add note
01:09:236 (4) - remove note (wrong 1/4 placement, relisten music)
01:13:032 (1,2) - add finishes here? there are not sound in music, but imo, they fit.
01:12:662 (5) - put nc to here from previous note, fits more
01:26:273 (1) - idk why end of spinner snapped on 1/3. Especially with 5%. Better to snap on 1/1. this suggestion for all diffs

Miya's Hard
Well, diff seems made-on-knee-for-one-hour, repetitive patterns and rhythms. It's rankable, but to be honest, i waited more :(

Easy
AR -1? not sure, but imo, ar3 seems fast
Miya
The song itself is repetitive Aleks :<
It's not unrankable too.
Aleks719

Miya wrote:

The song itself is repetitive Aleks :<
It's not unrankable too.
where did i say it's unrankable?
Well, Yasora's diffs looks more interesting orz
Miya
It's just an aditional diff. And i've just back from long afk when i map this diff. >.<
Don't expect it too high.
Topic Starter
Yasora

Aleks719 wrote:

Video
Video contains noiseless audio and it (audio) takes free space. Remove it from videofile, please will fix tomorrow, because my net is bad now T_T
Insane
01:09:051 - add note ok
01:09:236 (4) - remove note (wrong 1/4 placement, relisten music) ok
01:13:032 (1,2) - add finishes here? there are not sound in music, but imo, they fit. nope, that's weird to me.. really :(
01:12:662 (5) - put nc to here from previous note, fits more ok
01:26:273 (1) - idk why end of spinner snapped on 1/3. Especially with 5%. Better to snap on 1/1. this suggestion for all diffs ok..

Easy
AR -1? not sure, but imo, ar3 seems fast nope, too low if ar2.. since the bpm is a bit high, that's ok using ar3 imo
thanks aleks ^^;
Miya
Audio removed from video. Download here > http://puu.sh/zL60
Topic Starter
Yasora
makasih ya...

tomorrow I will upload it in another place TvT~

done~
Aleks719
All fixed, so.. Ranked!
Miya
Wow, o.o
Congratz Yasora :3
Akemi_Homura
Congratzzz~! :3
show more
Please sign in to reply.

New reply