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I appreciate the post quite a bit, Shellghost. You raise some very fine points that have been indeed pointed out both to the BAT as a whole and peppy himself about the hiccups and roadbumps that the BAT system has. I would like to point out, however, that being a BAT is not purely about mapping and modding, although to become one you essentially have to be a mapper or modder due to how promotions work. Being promoted to BAT also implies the maturity to be able to moderate your fellow person, and while it's not the most integral part of being a BAT, it's a requirement. It's quite possible to argue that whatever mystical screening process judges this is sometimes faulty, but at the core, that's the concept.
But you're also right on another point - because moderating as a BAT is not a requirement, nay, it isn't even really encouraged outside of "answer reports kekeke", there are no "dedicated" moderators for the forums, especially certain sublanguages (I'll talk about the sublanguages in a bit). While I approve of the forum moderation ideas, putting them into actual practice is more difficult.
In regards to sublanguage moderators, due to how Bancho is coded, it's not possible for a person to be granted rights only for one channel, so any moderators for a language must A) Be able to speak the language in question very fluently, B) Be able to speak English to communicate with other moderators fluently, and B) Be trusted enough in both their language's community AND the 'core' english community. Basically, sublanguage moderators in-game such as La Cataline, senaya, and Dragvon are there because they're trusted enough to be moderators anyway, with the added specific purpose of moderating their respective languages. These kinds of people are very hard to come by in this community, so can generally be counted on one hand.
On the other hand, shellghost, with the way the system works, you will also end up with BATs that are more into the moderation aspect of it as well as the modding. As a shameless plug, I'd like to think I'm one of them - I certainly don't actually play this game =p. The general populace can't really tell these "moderator BATs" from "modding BATs", so that's an unclear distinction. I for one welome any PMs (in-game is fastest~) regarding something you have questions about / want to report quickly. I also notice that the "report post" function isn't often used. Try spreading the word around about that - it highlights threads with a huge-ass, annoying exclamation point to moderators.
[un-official]
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I appreciate the post quite a bit, Shellghost. You raise some very fine points that have been indeed pointed out both to the BAT as a whole and peppy himself about the hiccups and roadbumps that the BAT system has. I would like to point out, however, that being a BAT is not purely about mapping and modding, although to become one you essentially have to be a mapper or modder due to how promotions work. Being promoted to BAT also implies the maturity to be able to moderate your fellow person, and while it's not the most integral part of being a BAT, it's a requirement. It's quite possible to argue that whatever mystical screening process judges this is sometimes faulty, but at the core, that's the concept.
But you're also right on another point - because moderating as a BAT is not a requirement, nay, it isn't even really encouraged outside of "answer reports kekeke", there are no "dedicated" moderators for the forums, especially certain sublanguages (I'll talk about the sublanguages in a bit). While I approve of the forum moderation ideas, putting them into actual practice is more difficult.
In regards to sublanguage moderators, due to how Bancho is coded, it's not possible for a person to be granted rights only for one channel, so any moderators for a language must A) Be able to speak the language in question very fluently, B) Be able to speak English to communicate with other moderators fluently, and B) Be trusted enough in both their language's community AND the 'core' english community. Basically, sublanguage moderators in-game such as La Cataline, senaya, and Dragvon are there because they're trusted enough to be moderators anyway, with the added specific purpose of moderating their respective languages. These kinds of people are very hard to come by in this community, so can generally be counted on one hand.
On the other hand, shellghost, with the way the system works, you will also end up with BATs that are more into the moderation aspect of it as well as the modding. As a shameless plug, I'd like to think I'm one of them - I certainly don't actually play this game =p. The general populace can't really tell these "moderator BATs" from "modding BATs", so that's an unclear distinction. I for one welome any PMs (in-game is fastest~) regarding something you have questions about / want to report quickly. I also notice that the "report post" function isn't often used. Try spreading the word around about that - it highlights threads with a huge-ass, annoying exclamation point to moderators.
[un-official]
non-shitpost ilu shelly!!!1 naer valhalla post if thread has good content!