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wmfchris
owo

[General]
Inconsistancy in tags
[Hard] : project diva extend Vocaloid2
[Normal] : Vocaloid project diva extend Vocaloid2
- try to have shorter breaks.

[Hard]
00:28:001 (3) - left 1 grid
00:44:098 (3) - ^
01:09:525 - the son indicates an 1/8 here, try: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/283828 (ref to the timeline only, not the note arrangement)
01:10:074 (1) - mute the slidertick
01:31:110 - instead of break, making some 1/4 streams may works well here
03:18:854 (5) - remove whistle at the end, whistle at next (3) beginning

I will try to point out some general problems rather than modding the rest:

Hitsound:
- whistles are often too loud for me, they may cover the music.
- Make some variation of sound according to music, people (especially taiko players) will fall asleep if you put them regularly for the whole song (making impression that the emotion of the song is the same all time which is not good)
- Sometimes the slidertick sounds nice with music, but you'll need some mute some of them like long vocals and they may not need that slidertick sound.

Pattern:
- Same as hitsound, make more variation (atm your diff has even less variation than the music ._.) like 1/8s as indicated, and take 00:47:391 - as example, instead of infinite streams, you may consider x xxx xxxxxxx x or some other variation. If you hear them carefully, there are soft and strong drum sounds, and they don't really fill up the 1/4 spaces. You can make up your own pattern referring to those music.

guess you'll need some remapping, but you've got some sense of mapping already, so good luck~
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

NoHitter wrote:

Just a quick glance through...

[General]
Your tags in the two diffs are inconsistent. fixed!~
That soft-hitclap sounds "delayed" since it had some intro time before the main sound. I tried cropping it to make it sound more on time. Here. thanks! fixed!~

[Normal]
00:35:318 (5,6) - I suggest you spread this out instead of stacking. IMO it'll look better if you do.fixed!~
00:40:805 (6) - IMO remove the clap and just place the finish. fixed!~
00:42:086 (1) - Add whistle on repeat. It already has :o
00:43:001 () - Add note here? Sounds empty. fixed!~
00:44:464 () - I suggest you add a spinner with a finish here, and make it end at 00:47:391. It fits the song, and makes the break start at a more appropriate time IMO. fixed!~
01:30:927 (4) - Make this into a slider which extends to 01:31:293? maybe not, to follow the vocals
01:49:586 (3,4) - Perhaps rearrange the pattern? It doesn't look as neat IMO. May I suggest this? fixed!~
03:56:903 -> 04:26:171 - Copy paste D: lolwhy D:

[Hard]
00:44:464 () - Add a spinner like the one I suggested in Normal? The break's short anyway. Alternatively, just move the break to 00:44:464 like this fixed!~ but they said I should get rid of these, but I prefer having it.
01:13:366 (1) - Might as well turn off grid snap and distance snap and blanket this correctly. fixed!~
01:31:293 () - Remove break? It's just short anyway. fixed!~
03:10:440 (1) - Same as 01:13:366 (1). fixed!~
03:29:830 () - Map this part like in Normal? I think it's okay as it is
03:56:903 -> 04:26:171 - Copy paste... lol...
Thanks for your mod NoHItter!~

wmfchris wrote:

owo

[General]
Inconsistancy in tags
[Hard] : project diva extend Vocaloid2
[Normal] : Vocaloid project diva extend Vocaloid2
fixed!~
- try to have shorter breaks. I'll see...

[Hard]
00:28:001 (3) - left 1 grid fixed!~
00:44:098 (3) - ^ fixed!~
01:09:525 - the son indicates an 1/8 here, try: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/283828 (ref to the timeline only, not the note arrangement) fixed!~
01:10:074 (1) - mute the slidertick fixed!~
01:31:110 - instead of break, making some 1/4 streams may works well here Good Idea~ fixed!~
03:18:854 (5) - remove whistle at the end, whistle at next (3) beginning fixed!~

I will try to point out some general problems rather than modding the rest:

Hitsound:
- whistles are often too loud for me, they may cover the music.
- Make some variation of sound according to music, people (especially taiko players) will fall asleep if you put them regularly for the whole song (making impression that the emotion of the song is the same all time which is not good)
- Sometimes the slidertick sounds nice with music, but you'll need some mute some of them like long vocals and they may not need that slidertick sound.

Pattern:
- Same as hitsound, make more variation (atm your diff has even less variation than the music ._.) like 1/8s as indicated, and take 00:47:391 - as example, instead of infinite streams, you may consider x xxx xxxxxxx x or some other variation. If you hear them carefully, there are soft and strong drum sounds, and they don't really fill up the 1/4 spaces. You can make up your own pattern referring to those music.

guess you'll need some remapping, but you've got some sense of mapping already, so good luck~
Thanks for the mod and awesome tips wmfchris, I shall put them in mind. Now I shall remap parts, for it to be better.
Starry_old
WOO! I love this song, So here is my mod

[Normal]

00:39:708 (3,4,5,6) - I recommend you put a slider here instead. It fits more.
01:51:781 (1,2) - Remove note 2 and reverse 1, It'll make the next note easier to read and the flow will be better.
01:54:708 (1) - Make this slider face down? The direction of the slider is confusing
02:32:025 (7) - Finish? It feels like its missing.
02:36:781 (7) - Flip Horizontally ( Ctrl + H) The position of this slider is nasty.
03:51:781 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part really needs hit sounds. Consider putting them here.

[Hard]

00:32:757 (1) - New combo here instead
01:56:903 - 01:57:635 - Consider mapping this and putting this http://puu.sh/ouPO
02:22:147 (4) - Make this straight? I don't see any reason on putting the slider facing that direction
02:44:281 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - You can literally put a spinner on that whole thing, but that would be 1 long spinner.
03:52:147 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as on Normal, Consider putting hit sounds (Great Place for Them)

Your map has potential, Keep up the good work~
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

Starry wrote:

WOO! I love this song, So here is my mod

[Normal]

00:39:708 (3,4,5,6) - I recommend you put a slider here instead. It fits more. fixed!~
01:51:781 (1,2) - Remove note 2 and reverse 1, It'll make the next note easier to read and the flow will be better. fixed!~
01:54:708 (1) - Make this slider face down? The direction of the slider is confusing fixed!~
02:32:025 (7) - Finish? It feels like its missing. sure~ fixed!~
02:36:781 (7) - Flip Horizontally ( Ctrl + H) The position of this slider is nasty. made some changes~
03:51:781 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part really needs hit sounds. Consider putting them here. made some changes~

[Hard]

00:32:757 (1) - New combo here instead fixed!~
01:56:903 - 01:57:635 - Consider mapping this and putting this http://puu.sh/ouPO fixed!~
02:22:147 (4) - Make this straight? I don't see any reason on putting the slider facing that direction the reason why it's facing there is because it's part of the design. Sorry no change.
02:44:281 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - You can literally put a spinner on that whole thing, but that would be 1 long spinner. I think that's a good idea, fixed~
03:52:147 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as on Normal, Consider putting hit sounds (Great Place for Them) nope, it's good as it is. No change.

Your map has potential, Keep up the good work~ Thanks!
Thanks for modding Starry!~
abalee
[Normal]

00:44:464 (1) - a normal soft-finish also fine i think.

others' should be fine.
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

abalee wrote:

[Normal]

00:44:464 (1) - a normal soft-finish also fine i think. okay fixed!~

others' should be fine.
Thanks abalee!~ >w<
abalee
bubble.
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

abalee wrote:

bubble.
Thaaaaanks >w<
/me bows on the floor
oh man my first bubble ever ;_;
*tears of joy*
Sakura
Hello there
[General]
Wasn't this song also in Project Diva 2nd's DLC? if so maybe add that to tags as well.

[Hard]
01:09:525 (1,2,1) - Not sure about this, kinda looks a bit clustered to me, a triple stack with the next circle and slider decently spaced would work way better imo
03:29:555 - Isn't this break kinda short, you could map some notes to the instruments imo.
04:03:122 (7,2) - 2 sliders almost in a row with different ammount of repeats can be really unintuitive, if anything just make the 1st slider intro a triplet.

[Normal]
01:10:805 (1) - Remove this clap, finish itself is enough.
03:50:318 (X) - Add a note?
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

Sakura Hana wrote:

Hello there hello :3
[General]
Wasn't this song also in Project Diva 2nd's DLC? if so maybe add that to tags as well. I'm really sorry but I don't know, this isn't highly necessary right? So maybe we don't need. :3

[Hard]
01:09:525 (1,2,1) - Not sure about this, kinda looks a bit clustered to me, a triple stack with the next circle and slider decently spaced would work way better imo I agree.XD Made some changes~
03:29:555 - Isn't this break kinda short, you could map some notes to the instruments imo. Mapped this part~
04:03:122 (7,2) - 2 sliders almost in a row with different ammount of repeats can be really unintuitive, if anything just make the 1st slider intro a triplet. I'm really not sure on what to do here now ma'am. No changes for now.

[Normal]
01:10:805 (1) - Remove this clap, finish itself is enough. Fixed!~
03:50:318 (X) - Add a note? Good idea, fixed!~
Thanks for modding Sakura Hana!~
my bubble got popped... ._.
Sakura
All fine now, wish i could do more for you but this is all i can do for now
Rebubbled~
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

Sakura Hana wrote:

All fine now, wish i could do more for you but this is all i can do for now
Rebubbled~
Thaaaaanks Sakura Hana!~ >w<
1st rebubble. XD
blissfulyoshi
I told you I will mod it, so here is the mod.

Source: JimmyThumb-P (From what I see online, a space is rarely used for any producer. -P seems to be the most popular, so I suggest you use that. Also: http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/JimmyThumb-P (I don't really like using vocaloid wiki as a source though, since I don't like trusting such small places))

Normal:
01:20:318 (2,4) - these sliders should have a more defined cuve imo
02:45:196 (2,4) - T_T, more sliders I dislike. The shape currently looks like an imbalanced rotated S (don't like 90 degree toations of S shapes like this because it looks similar to a boring linear line
04:13:366 (7) - would probably look cleaner if it bent toward the outside like:

Hard:
AR seems a bit high for the song. I prefer 7 rather than 8
01:29:830 (3,1) - minor overlap, but it annoys me a bit that 1 is below 3
04:37:879 (5) - Overlap with 4 T_T. You can always try an arc shape (not perfect but you get the idea)
04:40:440 (1,2,3) - Just so people don't rage about combobreaking here, I would lower the spacing slightly here because I don't hear anything to suggest that spacing.

====================================
For the most part the map is fine and okay for ranking. I do have a bunch of small things I would like to have done, but I'll leave that up to you. PM me when you finish.
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka
Hello sir!~ Thanks for your modding~
Sorry I still can't fix my map due to some circumstances...
But I will be of course, after some time...
(More info about what's happening in my user page)
Kotaro
Onii-sama~ star for you owo"!!
Kotaro
imb4 my 1st kudo from cool cool =A=d
modding is fun ;w;d
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka
Thanks!~ But still, I can't fix my map >< I'll have it fixed when I get home on friday~ I'll mod maps again like mad OAO
blissfulyoshi
ztrot told me to pop the map till you fix it, so hurry and come back xD
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

blissfulyoshi wrote:

ztrot told me to pop the map till you fix it, so hurry and come back xD
yes sir~ I will~ just wait till Friday or saturday, I'll be home by that time :D
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

blissfulyoshi wrote:

I told you I will mod it, so here is the mod. Thanks again sir!~

Source: JimmyThumb-P (From what I see online, a space is rarely used for any producer. -P seems to be the most popular, so I suggest you use that. Also: http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/JimmyThumb-P (I don't really like using vocaloid wiki as a source though, since I don't like trusting such small places)) I see, fixed!~

Normal:
01:20:318 (2,4) - these sliders should have a more defined cuve imo what should I do sir? change it? XD no changes for now with this one
02:45:196 (2,4) - T_T, more sliders I dislike. The shape currently looks like an imbalanced rotated S (don't like 90 degree toations of S shapes like this because it looks similar to a boring linear line changed to something else!~
04:13:366 (7) - would probably look cleaner if it bent toward the outside like: okay fixed!~
did some little changes with the diff, just little. XD

Hard:
AR seems a bit high for the song. I prefer 7 rather than 8 this is one of the common issues here in this diff XD but originally, I used AR 7 when I first submitted it, and maybe it is its final AR. XD fixed~
01:29:830 (3,1) - minor overlap, but it annoys me a bit that 1 is below 3 overlap removed~ fixed~ XD
04:37:879 (5) - Overlap with 4 T_T. You can always try an arc shape (not perfect but you get the idea) somehow, fixed~
04:40:440 (1,2,3) - Just so people don't rage about combobreaking here, I would lower the spacing slightly here because I don't hear anything to suggest that spacing. fixed!~

====================================
For the most part the map is fine and okay for ranking. I do have a bunch of small things I would like to have done, but I'll leave that up to you. PM me when you finish. yay >w<
Done with the changes and I'm very sorry again for being late in fixing...
blissfulyoshi
WIP

Normal:
02:26:171 (3) - make this slider a horizontal reflection of 02:24:708 (1)
04:02:757 (3) - make this slider a horizontal reflection of 04:01:293 (1)

Hard:
168,64,277879,2,0,B|192:32|240:0|344:24|352:64|350:98,1,200


All fixed, Ranked!!!
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

blissfulyoshi wrote:

WIP

Normal:
02:26:171 (3) - make this slider a horizontal reflection of 02:24:708 (1)
04:02:757 (3) - make this slider a horizontal reflection of 04:01:293 (1)

Hard:
168,64,277879,2,0,B|192:32|240:0|344:24|352:64|350:98,1,200


All fixed, Ranked!!!
Thaaaaaaanks sir TT^TT my first ranked map TT^TT
/me raves
Starry_old
GRATZZZ

:D
ertyukjh010
04:19:220 (3) - Is it a distance bug?
Sakura
Oh my! congrats on your first ranked map Kirino!
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

Starry wrote:

GRATZZZ

:D
Thanks Starry!~ :D

ertyukjh010 wrote:

04:19:220 (3) - Is it a distance bug?
What? :o

Sakura wrote:

Oh my! congrats on your first ranked map Kirino!
Thanks Sakura!~ >w<
ertyukjh010

Kirino Kousaka wrote:

ertyukjh010 wrote:

04:19:220 (3) - Is it a distance bug?
What? :o
Why make a half distance there?
Darksonic
Gratz on your first ranked! nice song and map >w</
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka

ertyukjh010 wrote:

Why make a half distance there?
I don't quite get it, :o but you're talking about [Normal] right?

Darksonic wrote:

Gratz on your first ranked! nice song and map >w</
Thaaanks >w<
ertyukjh010
"Hard" diff
YTYuyu
well well congratz on your 1st ranked map ;)
Nymph
wow grats on your first map! (I remember this map.... oh I modded this months ago >_>
IkkiMinami
Good I Like It
SStttaaaarrrr
Meowcenaries
GReat job Kirino! Awesome map! Congratulations!
thOnz
congrats kirino~ its RANKED
Frostmourne
oh I like it , (Played in project diva extend)

Congratz for the first map ranked !
eikkaleyd
Finally. XD
Aleks719
i have come too late :(

btw letterboxes and sb looks wrong together :(
Topic Starter
Kirino Kousaka
Thanks again everyone >w<

Aleks719 wrote:

i have come too late :(

btw letterboxes and sb looks wrong together :(
aww ><
Genkishi
Nooo!! xD
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