those wrote:

I feel real bad for posting here, but it really irks me how my suggestions that are purely based on musical knowledge and understanding were ignored without reason. You're probably going to rage at me and be like, "why did you mod a bubbled map" and all that, but I feel it's worth it since you may have a chance of learning something here. Therefore, I'll tell it to you again, and hopefully you'll learn to accept it this time because I'm explaining the reasoning a whole lot more.

those wrote:

I feel real bad for posting here, but it really irks me how my suggestions that are purely based on musical knowledge and understanding were ignored without reason. You're probably going to rage at me and be like, "why did you mod a bubbled map" and all that, but I feel it's worth it since you may have a chance of learning something here. Therefore, I'll tell it to you again, and hopefully you'll learn to accept it this time because I'm explaining the reasoning a whole lot more.

[Insane]
If you notice how 00:33:899 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/qJyU and 00:35:225 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/qJzd are, and you listen to the music, it's obvious that 00:36:543 (1,2) - should follow the mapping pattern of having been rotated 180 degrees. But right now it does not: http://puu.sh/qJzJ. In addition, 00:39:195 (1,2), 00:40:521 (1,2), and 00:41:846 (1,2) don't follow the pattern of being rotated 180 degrees, until you get to 00:43:172 (1,2), which is done pretty well.

In the next phrase, 00:44:498 (1,2) and 00:47:150 (1,2) don't follow the pattern, but 00:45:824 (1,2) - does. This makes the patterning in your map harder to follow and may cause confusion for players with a better musical sense.

However, the next time the prechorus comes in, it appears you tried to follow the pattern of rotating 180 degrees and reversing the slider, as seen here: 01:40:189 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/qJBq. Therefore, you should replace 01:42:012 (2) - with a rotated and reversed version of (1), maybe like this? http://puu.sh/qJBY. This applies for 01:42:841 (1,2) as well, but you only need to Reverse (2) in this scenario.

The rest of the rotation patterns make sense since they're all just rotated 180 degrees and not put through any other transformations like how you did near the beginning. It also pleases me that you did follow some of my suggestions that would have made gameplay better, such as reversing 00:01:073 (2) (even though you didn't choose to reverse it based on my mod, I don't think).

I've told you I looked up to you yo. I just can't stand to have your mapping that have patterns that don't follow "musical reasoning". Maybe this is the effect of over twelve years of musical experience, but I am more than certain that this will make your map much better. Unless you have explicit reasons why the patterns aren't being followed, these suggestions should definitely be taken into consideration. It's true that these won't unrank your map if it ever got ranked, but it's not really about that; it's better I had posted this now rather than a week later.

afk; doctor's appt.

xcherry wrote:

those wrote:

I feel real bad for posting here, but it really irks me how my suggestions that are purely based on musical knowledge and understanding were ignored without reason. You're probably going to rage at me and be like, "why did you mod a bubbled map" and all that, but I feel it's worth it since you may have a chance of learning something here. Therefore, I'll tell it to you again, and hopefully you'll learn to accept it this time because I'm explaining the reasoning a whole lot more.

well now that someone else decided to mod, I think I might try my hand at it... I see some things that can use some fixing. Mythol, if you still want my mod, can you tell me? Because I think you could benefit from it and it would make your map a whole lot better.

Lybydose wrote:

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ask someone else to "recheck" the map, not me, since I the only thing I even looked at was the timing.

1. Since hoLysoup has done this difficulty, you should rename it "hoLysoup's Normal".
2. 00:10:047 (1) - Since there is a "drum stream" 1/1 earlier you should end this spinner here (00:12:368). Otherwise its end sounds too late. You should also start the break at 00:10:047 like this :
   
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3. 01:00:765 (1) - I'd not do a 2/1 slider here. Like what you did for other patterns, you should follow the vocals and use a 1/1 slider (or circles, depending on what you want to do). Like this :
   
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4. 01:16:428 (1) - For the same reason as before, I would end this spinner 1/1 earlier. (and start the break at the spot where the spinner ended before).
   
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5. 03:04:080 (1) - Same as 01:00:765 (1).

1. 00:10:047 (1) - Since there is a "drum stream" 1/1 earlier you should end this spinner here (00:12:368). Otherwise its end sounds too late. You should also start the break at 00:10:047 like this :
   
   SPOILER

   
2. 01:16:346 (1) - ^
3. 01:57:285 (5) - I see why you put its end on a blue tick, but it actually plays and sounds quite awkward. You should end it at 01:57:616. ( 1/4 earlier ). It fits really better.

1. In my opinion, AR9 doesn't fit for this song so I'd use AR8.
2. 00:09:716 (6) - There is nothing that need to be mapped at 00:09:882. So I don't see why you have done a slider here, just remove it and put a circle at 0:09:716.
3. 01:16:346 (1) - As in Normal and Hard, reduce this spinner by 1/1 and start the break at 01:18:998.

Kurai wrote:

Hello ~ !

[Hard]

1. 00:10:047 (1) - Since there is a "drum stream" 1/1 earlier you should end this spinner here (00:12:368). Otherwise its end sounds too late. You should also start the break at 00:10:047 like this : sorry.. but I really think it sounds better ending where it does now..
   
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2. 01:16:346 (1) - ^ ^
3. 01:57:285 (5) - I see why you put its end on a blue tick, but it actually plays and sounds quite awkward. You should end it at 01:57:616. ( 1/4 earlier ). It fits really better. ok changed~

[Insane]

1. In my opinion, AR9 doesn't fit for this song so I'd use AR8. I want to keep AR 9
2. 00:09:716 (6) - There is nothing that need to be mapped at 00:09:882. So I don't see why you have done a slider here, just remove it and put a circle at 0:09:716. im mapping the vocal "na" here..
3. 01:16:346 (1) - As in Normal and Hard, reduce this spinner by 1/1 and start the break at 01:18:998. :(

Kurai wrote:

Hello ~ !

[Normal]
Since hoLysoup has done this difficulty, you should rename it "hoLysoup's Normal". I don't really mind. If Mythol wants to change the diff name he's free to do it. I have other Guest Diffs that just say 'hoLysoup'
00:10:047 (1) - Since there is a "drum stream" 1/1 earlier you should end this spinner here (00:12:368). Otherwise its end sounds too late. You should also start the break at 00:10:047 like this :

SPOILER

ok no that makes the spinner very awkward when it doesn't end on the downbeat.
01:00:765 (1) - I'd not do a 2/1 slider here. Like what you did for other patterns, you should follow the vocals and use a 1/1 slider (or circles, depending on what you want to do). Like this :

SPOILER

This is true. However, if I wanted to follow the vocals here it would break the beautiful symmetrical slider that comes after AND I would have to use 4 circles instead of 3 because the vocals stretches out to 4 syllables. so no change here. Plus, it's much easier to play this simple diff when simply tracing sliders.
01:16:428 (1) - For the same reason as before, I would end this spinner 1/1 earlier. (and start the break at the spot where the spinner ended before). same reason as above

SPOILER

03:04:080 (1) - Same as 01:00:765 (1). same reason as above
sorry, no changes made.