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Seibei4211 wrote:

Movie? No.

Yeah, I noticed that it was an "adventure" game.

I just feel that the trailer for it was useless because it left me with no impression of what sort of a game it was.

Dude, it's really hard to explain. It's like Nintendogs with a ton of physics engines and you control that kid and it's an adventure game and instead of a dog, it's a dog/cat/eagle thing called Trico. Or something.

Edit: The trailer had a lot of gameplay elements in it, but you might not have known that they were important, like throwing barrels into its mouth and stuff. I wanna see how you're supposed to keep Trico from running away when you want it to sit still...

are you kidding?
I've been looking forward to "The Last Guardian" ever since they said Team ICO was making a game for the PS3. It was said at last years "eee" or GDC, or maybe a couple months after the release of the system, idk.
The game looks awesome, I enjoyed Ico, and SotC was even cooler, haven't played it in a while though, I played through both twice.
anywayz, is there a release date, or did they just slap 2010 on it?

eeedit: it would probably be an action/adventure puzzle game like the previous ones, I don't see a reason they would make a different kind of game.

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GHOSTBUSTAAAAHS!

I got Prototype today. It's very, very fun. Excellent sandboxing. The free-roam is much more fun than it was in infamous imo.

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I'm not so into the whole melee thing. I liked inFamous for shooting and platforming. Also, FUCKING LIGHTNING. Still, it was good at best. Prototype is like...I can't get into it. I like the movement and how he can almost fly and shit, but...whatever. Melee. Seriously. He's got about 50 ways to hit something with his hand. I don't see the difference or why he can't just have one way to hit everything. At least the whip has some range. That's a sensible power. Oh, and you HAVE to be evil, which kinda sucks. I don't want to be evil most of the time. Well, he's not even evil. He's just a giant emo dick. The only fun I could see myself having with that is just...free roaming. Cause that does look really fun.

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I've seen the gunplay and it's pretty terrible. So basic. Probably cause they don't want you to use them, like in Mirror's Edge. It'd have been cool if you could just hold your hand out and shoot tiny shards of yourself at other people, then replenish your "ammo" by consuming. That sounds so cool just describing it that I don't know why they didn't put that in the game. That'd have been sweeeet. Instead they just put in claws and blades and a club. I don't like how they've got that whole "this power for that purpose" thing going on. Why can't you just unlock powers and do what you want with them? Sure, I unlocked this thing that would make fighting that easier, but what if I want to use my claws? Can you do that? You probably could, but it'd be stupid and take forever. So ok, how about the opposite way. I could use my club to crush those puny soldiers, right? Probably, but it'd just be faster to take out the whip/claws. At least in inFamous, when you unlocked a power, it wasn't for any one purpose. You got your powers, then you did what you wanted with them.

I do agree that inFamous is repetitive. The game wasn't as epic as I was hoping it'd be. Zipping around on the power lines and jumping from rooftop to rooftop was kinda cool. Standard movement isn't as fun as Prototype's since you're still mostly human in inFamous.

From what I understand about the plot of Prototype, isn't it Alex Mercer going around trying to find out what they did to him and "who he is" and get revenge for some...reason. And to complete this task, he must go around and kill thousands of innocent lives so he can, you know, be a dick. "Yeah, you guys gave me ridiculously awesome powers and made me super awesome and stuff, but I didn't ask you to, so I'm going to kill you and about half of Manhattan now." I mean, really? Really? Oh, and he has amnesia or whatever. So instead of cutting himself, he cuts other people. In half. Frequently.

If you want a good "karma" system, get Alpha Protocol. Also, it's a modern-day, 3rd person shooter spy RPG. Seriously, get that. They should've just called it "awp's Game". Oh, and those decisions aren't black and white and they actually affect the gameplay and story and your character development and everything. I can't wait for that one.

The only thing that you get in Penny Arcades is that you get to keep your character, sorta. I think they kinda messed him up when I started the 2nd episode, but he was close enough... So yeah, that's basically it.

ps3 fangirl alert! <3 I'm not a big fan of the Xbox but I don't mind it either way. Anyway my PSN ID is Valkyriie.. srsly don't ask what is up with me and my double i's but when it comes to writing names and your name is taken, well I don't like any other name, I'm thinking of getting another PSN ID but I'll let you know if I do. Anyway games I've played...

- Assassins Creed.
- Heavenly Sword <3
- Little Big Planet
- Need for Speed Undercover
- Metal Gear Solid 4
- Sonic Unleashed
- Some random duck game that I don't remember the name of ==

and there's more but I really can't remember off the top of my head. I'm trying to get my hands on Infamous soon but I'm not sure what the gameplay is like, I'm hoping good.. I'm in dire need of an addicting and fun game. I can't wait forever for Final Fantasy XIII to be released == and I'm currently playing Last Remnant on the 360...

srsly, does anybody have any suggestions for games? Coz none seem to really be appealing to me atm Dx

Disgaea 3 ^_^

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I only heard about Cross Edge a few weeks ago but I will be buying a copy once I find it cheap.

Uncharted. Get Uncharted. Or Resident Evil 5. Or, you know, Ghostbusters...

Edit: Also, you're the first chick to get added to that list, huh? Wow.

Does that mean you didn't add Foulcoon to the list?

So there's possibly two chics in the list?! My gosh, we need more girl gamers! Dx

But I was looking at Ghostbusters.. and Resident Evil 5. Actually I've also played Silent Hill as well and I didn't really like it. I think SH is losing its touch.

But I can't wait for Cross Edge, I'm also waiting for a cheaper version, I just hope it's good. Also, I like the look of BlazBlue, I'm a big fan of Guilty Gear~<3

Repliica wrote:

So there's possibly two chics in the list?! My gosh, we need more girl gamers! Dx

But I was looking at Ghostbusters.. and Resident Evil 5. Actually I've also played Silent Hill as well and I didn't really like it. I think SH is losing its touch.

But I can't wait for Cross Edge, I'm also waiting for a cheaper version, I just hope it's good. Also, I like the look of BlazBlue, I'm a big fan of Guilty Gear~<3

2 chicks in the list, what about me, do I count

I can't recommend Ghostbusters, but get RE5, AND WHAT, Noooooooooo I Can't say it...... ok, no thanks to seibei convincing me to get the game, but hell I'm getting Uncharted, Uncharted 2 Kicked ass at E3! and I can't wait for that shit

p.s. Guilty Gear was pretty cool, well the last one I played at least. . . . i don't really know a couple of years back

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So I'm the only girl!? Dx okay then I'll take your word for it >-<

Uncharted.. well seeing as it seems to be a big deal (or so I think..) maybe I'll check that out too! yay! I have new gmes to play >D Time to bust out the ps3! so long Osu! x3

btw.. out of curiosity. What did everybody name their ps3s? or did people just leave it as it is?
My one is named Pandora.
(Aren't you surprised, it doesn't have a double 'i' in there XD)

Yes take seibei's word for it, Uncharted/Uncharted 2 is one of the best lookin games ever, except he does lie a bit
I am a 17 year old girl and I love seibei's IRL pics, so sexy[/size
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._. [size=85]i love so seibei, and I'm pretty sure he loves me too

Just picked myself up a copy of RE5 wat

foulcoon wrote:

Just picked myself up a copy of RE5 wat

wat !!!

Uncharted is fun. It's a pretty decent TPS/platformer. I'd own a copy if I could find it for under 40 bucks. RE5's also good...not as good as 4, but still good.

Regarding Prototype's power selection; only certain things are useless in certain situations. Claws and whip are useless against tanks...that's about it. The lickers hunters are tough but I've fought them bare-fisted before just to show them what little bitches they are compared to my fly elite skills, yo.

If I did name my PS3, I'm almost certain I named it awPS3.

If you're gonna get Disgaea 3, I highly recommend getting Disgaea 1 and 2 first. Disgaea 1's gameplay's a bit inferior, but it has the best cast of characters/voice acting (and to a somewhat lesser emphasis, story) I've ever witnessed.

Amazon sent me an e-flyer saying "pre-order Uncharted 2 now for only 69.99 it comes out September some time" 70 bucks are you kidding me? I paid 70+tax for RE5 because I was an idiot I'm not doin' that again.

Uncharted 2? I thought that was a November release, currently. *checks* Now it says October and I just checked it last night...

My PS3's name is PlaySeition 3, I think.

EEeee, I don't understand what you're trying to say cause your messed up code is hard to understand.

Edit: Oh, and what am I lying about? Who's a 17 year old girl? What?

awp wrote:

If I did name my PS3, I'm almost certain I named it awPS3.

I lol'd, is there a reason, did somebody say it earlier and I missed it, or was it just plain random.

awp wrote:

Uncharted is fun. I'd own a copy if I could find it for under 30 bucks

^ I would totally get it for under $30 USD

Seibei4211 wrote:

EEeee, I don't understand what you're trying to say cause your messed up code is hard to understand.

Edit: Oh, and what am I lying about? Who's a 17 year old girl? What?

don't worry, I don't get it either.

awp wrote:

If you're gonna get Disgaea 3, I highly recommend getting Disgaea 1 and 2 first. Disgaea 1's gameplay's a bit inferior, but it has the best cast of characters/voice acting (and to a somewhat lesser emphasis, story) I've ever witnessed.

I'll take your word for it then ^_^ I've always wanted to get into this series because I've heard many good things about it, plus the characters look fun, I really think that it's a game that I could get into.

Seibei4211 wrote:

My PS3's name is PlaySeition 3, I think.

Man I really like that! xD

Uncharted is so horrible that my free one is still unopened. Going to ebay it.

Just got RE5, Armored Core: For Answer and Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

I'm looking forward to Ninja Gaiden II that will be released on the ps3.. but why so many remakes of the damn game? Dx

Bought MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, and Uncharted today.

Little Big Planet FTW.

And I also got Uncharted and Prototype ~ <3

Need...More...Mech games~
So I'm enjoying RE5 apart from the fact that the AI doesn't seem to know how to use any other weapon apart from the pistol.
Amored Core is Amored Core...not a lot to say about it besides pew pew~
I have yet to play Ninja Gaiden Sigma but assuming it's the same as Ninja Gaiden Black (which I owned...twice) it should be fine.

Repliica wrote:

Little Big Planet FTW.

And I also got Uncharted and Prototype ~ <3

Tell me if Prototype is good. Maybe if enough people tell me it is, I can get it. I'm still on the fence with that one.

Gamestop is selling a used copy of Uncharted for $40 (USD) and a New for $50 D:

Is it THAT worth using up ALL of my money on a game that was sold on(around) the release of the PS3 & imo should be a greatest hit (w/e they call them) by now. Maybe I can just wait.

My brother recently got a PS3 and Killzone 2, but I'm not into the FPS games, so I ignored him and got Enchanted Arms and Disgaea 3 (hey, Gamestop's Buy 2 used games Get 1 free sale got me Enchanted Arms for free, and I'm having more fun with it than I thought). I don't regret the PS3 now.

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eee wrote:

Gamestop is selling a used copy of Uncharted for $40 (USD) and a New for $50 D:

Is it THAT worth using up ALL of my money on a game that was sold on(around) the release of the PS3 & imo should be a greatest hit (w/e they call them) by now. Maybe I can just wait.

It's not a Greatest Hit because of people like you who didn't buy such an awesome game for the PS3. BUY IT, DAMMIT! Then get Uncharted 2.

Seibei4211 wrote:

Tell me if Prototype is good. Maybe if enough people tell me it is, I can get it. I'm still on the fence with that one.

Prototype is an okay game. My younger brother who's 12 and my older friend who's 19 and 21 enjoy the game a lot. I see it as a game that crosses over with Grand Theft Auto and Spiderman... well more Grand Theft Auto but instead of stealing cars you're stealing looks. I don't really like the game myself and the story is semi okay.. but you might think differently, it's just a bit to repetitive for my liking. I'll try to add more to this later on when I've played the game a bit more. I guess it's worth checking out, but buying.. I'm not sure.

Good enough for me!

I never thought Ghostbusters would be so hard. Man. Not the single player mode so much, but online, man. Survival is really hard to...survive, and Protection is really hard to...protect in and Containment? Seriously? Is that BEATABLE? I mean, you don't HAVE to "beat" the job, but you have to for some of the trophies. Ugh.

I'm also playing Folklore now, I thought the game would be a drag but it's quite addicting 8D

I saw Folklore for 20 bux but had no idea what it was. Is there anything you can compare it to?

awp wrote:

I saw Folklore for 20 bux but had no idea what it was. Is there anything you can compare it to?

I believe I can =]
The way I see it is it's like Kingdom Hearts but a lot more fun. The storyline seems to be a bit weird seeing as you're kinda thrown into a situation but I really enjoy it because the game isn't clear cut. You have the choice of playing as the Heroine - Ellen or the Hero - Keats. Either one follows different paths but are searching for the same thing. Whilst I was playing it I thought Ellen was following the good side and so was Keats but I'm about half way through and it seems one of them is being used. I'm not exactly sure.. in fact I can't really predict anything in this damn game Dx but that might just be me.

Anyway the fighting system I find to be rather fun, you fight Folks which are monsters pretty much and then you can absorb them. Once absorbed you can reuse the monsters to fight for you. Rest assured they can't die and you can use them a numerous amount of times in battle. I think the battle that I enjoyed the most was in the second world when you get to Warcadia. You absorb all these mechanical folks, i went to fight the Folklore whom is the boss and it was like a warzone! i was calling in like air bombers, setting up landmines, giant tanks shooting shells at the boss and land troops charging forward. It's a really fun game and like I told my friend.. no games so far have been able to hook me, yet this one has.

So it's worth a try I think :]

Stopped being interested after the second sentence. That's a terrible thing to say.

awp wrote:

I saw Folklore for 20 bux but had no idea what it was. Is there anything you can compare it to?

Just get the Demo, people have different tastes in games, ya know

I had some fun with the Folklore playable demo, $20 is good (what is that, like $10 USD?), but I suggest waiting for it, get it when you have nothing else to buy, I know, it may be bought before that, so yeah, download the demo, it's 10 minutes including installation with a decent connection, and the demo lasts about 5-15 minutes depending on how fast you plan on completing it. after that, you should be able to choose

PS. IGN review says it's a recommendation for all PS3 owners, but I'm not gonna get it :P

Well, I'm a huge KH fan, and I might as well download the demo to give it a spin.

EDIT: Played the first half of the first demo and it was kind of interesting. If I do see that 20 dollar copy I'll likely be picking it up.

eee wrote:

Just get the Demo, people have different tastes in games, ya know

Agreed. :]

awp wrote:

Well, I'm a huge KH fan, and I might as well download the demo to give it a spin.

EDIT: Played the first half of the first demo and it was kind of interesting. If I do see that 20 dollar copy I'll likely be picking it up.

Yay! let me know how it goes for you ^^

My PSN is joesushi.

PS3 Games:
NCAA Football 09
Madden 09
FIFA 09
Resident Evil 5
Rock Band 2
MLB 09: The Show
Virtual Fighter 5

PSN Games:
Pixel Junk Eden
Street Fighter Turbo HD Renix
Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection
Rag Doll Kung Fu

Do you like sportz? Do you care who knows?

So I tried Folklore. Better than KHII my ass!

I'm seriously considering getting Prototype soon. Maybe. How hard are the trophies, awp? I noticed you have, like, almost all of them. You have most of the ones I was worried about, too, like beating the game without dying, less than 10 consumes or whatever, 50 kills in 5 seconds, Plat in all events, stuff like that.

Well, you'll have an easier time than me if you use this map when getting the collectibles. The only time I didn't enjoy playing Prototype was finding the last Landmark, which took me around two hours to find, because I didn't know which one I didn't have. So use that map. Everything else's not too bad. The game autosaves so when going for the no-dying one, beat the game on Normal first, then go for it on Easy+ and create a backup or something I guess. I didn't have any trouble with any of them, but fuuuuuuck that last landmark was time consuming.

Also the kill 53k infected was not nearly that time consuming.

Some people found the Plat in all events one tricky, but idk apart from a couple running ones and that one whipfist kill they were pretty easy. This'll be the first plat trophy I get, since the one trophy I need for RE5's plat is beat the game on Professional, and with AI it's a biiiiiiiiitch.

Yeah, Pro is impossible with AI. Although it's probably better to do 2-3 with AI. Ridiculous aim. Is there an in-game way to see where the landmarks are at all? In inFamous, there were 350 blast shards I had to find, but you could press R3 and see if any were in the immediate area. It took me 2-3 days to finally scour the entire map, and even then I still didn't have all of them. There were 2 that wouldn't show up on your in-game radar cause they were too far out in the water/too high up.

I didn't think Prototype would have so many collectibles. I like collectibles. Once I get the Ghostbusters Plat, I'll need something to play until August.

Edit: Not that Prototype will last THAT long, but still. I'll need something. I'm low on dough though, so I can't let Prototype suck me dry before Arkham comes out cause I want that. I still need to get the RE5/GTA online trophies, too...

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Seibei4211 wrote:

So I tried Folklore. Better than KHII my ass!

I didn't say it was better than KH II Just KH. 83
Nothing beats the final battle in KH II all those lasers and all that button mashing. WIN!
8D

KH2FM+ was even better than KH2, I think. The post-final boss was tough as hell for me the first 5 or so times. Luck, luck, luck.

Oh. Well, KH is still ridiculously awesome.

Platinum get.

When playing on Hard I had to use the whipfist (tentacle rape) for almost every boss fight because shit does so much damage to you in close-quarters combat. Alas, victory, and a good 40+ hours spent easily. All that's left to do is fuck around for the sheer enjoyment of it. I really wish it was possible to set someone down after picking them up though so I could field goal some poor schmuck off a skyscraper. Ah well, there's always a faceplant from four hundred feet in the air.

i got uncharted ^_____^ . . . . . that is all

About time.

Ghostbusters needs a patch. Seriously. It's impossible to get a Plat. Fucking Atariiii.

I beat RE5 on Professional today. Alone. With the dumb as paint "shoot the enemy rather than revive the ally and survive" AI.

Ohhhhhh yeah, I'm good.

Holy fucking shit. That must've taken a while. Did you use infinite Rock?

Seibei4211 wrote:

Holy fucking shit. That must've taken a while. Did you use infinite Rock?

Well Alone might be tough and need infinite ammo, but . . . I beat RE5 on professional about 2 weeks ago ^o^ with my
brother/ no infinite ammo/ not Alone


and I doubt awp would have to use infinite rockets, since "Ohhhhhh yeah, I'm good".

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I don't care if I don't have a PS3 like you guys but get BlazBlue mmk

aw, it's just a 2D fighter

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Beating Professional alone isn't that hard at all. It's a bit frustrating but not because of the AI. XD

Anyway, I only took me about 24 Hours to get Platinum.

It's not the reload times that are annoying, it's just the whole ammo management thing. Fuck that, I need to kill these dudes.

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Seibei4211 wrote:

I don't really believe that you and eee did Pro without infinite ammo, EEeee.

excuse me, EEeee said with his "brother," that does NOT mean me -_-
I've only beaten the game on Vet and I don't have a brother, I can do that alone, sure.
Pro is very tough alone and I don't have most of the infinite ammo, I had a friend over to play pro for some time, haven't completed it yet.

I think it's more of a challenge to keep infinite ammo off, unlike John, he turns it on and checks GameFAQs. I found a printed copy of the locations of the targets, that punk. He's always trying to get my trophies (btw, my username/PSN account is closed and private, only for irl friends)

Also, I believe EEeee can beat Proffesional, it is very possible that if he stocks up ammo from other difficulties and/or upgrade the very best of weapons (which I am very lazy to do), it should be like having infinite ammo. But that's just for people who have nothing else to play and replay the levels 0_0

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You are both (eee and awp) under the assumption that I was talking about ammo amounts. That's not even a problem. I have more ammo than I know what to do with. It's just the whole "having ammo in my inventory at all times for each gun" thing that sucks. For every gun, I have to dedicate a slot to the ammo, then another slot is for my vest, which kinda isn't that necessary in Pro since you die in one hit anyway, but still. So it's like, yeah, I could waste slots on ammo and do it the right way, but I'd rather not. It was more fun without the ammo.

I used body armour for a little bit. You don't die in one hit from standard arrows/some melee attacks, but after a certain point (stage 4-1+ or so) it's just dead weight.

Yeah. Not useless, but not necessary. Bulletproof vest was worthwhile though. Guns weren't that harmful at all (and it's actually kinda stupid that getting hit with a glass bottle hurts more than a burst of bullets to the chest).

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PSN = eeeman77 . . . . . FINALLY!!!

You guys playin BlazBlue yet?

Yeah I got it, My favorite so far: Ragna, Jin and Haku-men. Story mode could take a while to get 100%.
About Folklore, I beat it, it was good, but it is hardly got RPG elements, I don't think you can compare it to KH.

Not touching BlazBlue. Or anything, really. I don't know when I'll be able to play PS3 again.

awp, Disgaea 3 is getting trophies.

that's an awesome site you got there

Seibei4211 wrote:

awp, Disgaea 3 is getting trophies.

I bet he's already done all of it anyway.

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What, that doesn't mean in all? The damage thing?

This game is more confusing than ever now.

Yeah, it's probably in 1 attack.

Well, I got Midboss, Mao and Flonne caught up with Adell. I've been power-training Flonne's healing capabilities and atm she can dish out about 55 million damage in one cast, but her equipment is severely under-quality. Since item duping was made much more difficult, I'll have to resort to giving her a fist weapon to boost her base stats by around 3000% (for Adell, other aptitudes considered, this increased his attack power stat from 200,000 to 4,500,000; with a little persistence I can achieve a similar or better result with Flonne's RES stat).

Unfortunately, Healing Magic's gimped for isolated damage and it's going to be tough to get Flonne into the billions.

I finally got Resident Evil 5. After debating this for some time as to whether to play it or not I thought what the heck, I wana pwn some mother fockers. >D

It's pretty fun, I'm just at the beginning ~ Chris and Sheva are sexay ;D I love a chic that can handle a gun and if you take that the wrong way shame on you. But srsly. Chics that can handle weapons, total win!


I have yet to get my hands on Blazblue </3 I'm not happy. I love Guilty Gear so I need this game! ~also I need to get my ps3 hooked up again, so I haven't been on PSN probably won't be for a good few days.

Hurry up Thursday I want to play through D3 again

Repliica wrote:

IChics that can handle weapons, total win!

Get Bayonetta.

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Bayonetta was made by the team who made DMC 1-3, if I'm not mistaken? I was playing DMC4 today, and while it was apparently made by different people, the feel's the exact same. I quite enjoy it, but while Bayonetta looks like more action-y goodness, something about the look of it fails to draw me in. Maybe I'm just expecting the plot to be too boring or the characters to be too uninteresting.

Also, played Ghostbusters demo. Quite interesting, though I can tell it's one of those games you'll only run through enough times to unlock everything.

awp wrote:

something about the look of it fails to draw me in. Maybe I'm just expecting the plot to be too boring or the characters to be too uninteresting.

That's how I first saw it to be honest and the fact that she goes naked in some attacks made me believe it was like one of those bad animes that need boobs to sell it off. Anyhow ~ I'll have to wait and see what it's like hopefully I can get some good stuff outta it.

But right now, I'm in dire need of an FPS ~

Ahhhh Gunstar Heroes for 5 bucks on PSN with online scoreboards and multiplayer sweeeet everyone should download a rom of this game (Genesis emulator) to give it a try and then buy it on PSN so we can play online it is a good game (one of Genesis' finest).

Trophies are horribly unimaginative though (beat the game == 95% of the trophies earned).

Still, this game rules.

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Repliica wrote:

awp wrote:

something about the look of it fails to draw me in. Maybe I'm just expecting the plot to be too boring or the characters to be too uninteresting.

That's how I first saw it to be honest and the fact that she goes naked in some attacks made me believe it was like one of those bad animes that need boobs to sell it off. Anyhow ~ I'll have to wait and see what it's like hopefully I can get some good stuff outta it.

But right now, I'm in dire need of an FPS ~

The creator dude said something like "the sexier she gets, the more dangerous she is" or something. Her clothing is made of hair. The summons are made of her hair. Thus, she needs to shed the clothes to summon the giant fucking dragon head. Also, she fucking flipped a giant dragon over her head. And she fought a chick who was riding a motorcycle while the were on the wing of a gunship. WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU WANT?! I mean, holy shit. Talk about high standards.

As for an FPS, do you already have Resistance 2? Pretty much all you need.

Seibei4211 wrote:

WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU WANT?! I mean, holy shit. Talk about high standards.

lolling at the irony of the Prototype debate

for FPSs, the Half Life series (or go straight into HL2 and Orange Box if you're not into the "retro" feel) is great. Barring that, BioShock was really good. In fact, BioShock is probably the only FPS I've really enjoyed since HL2. Painkiller is good for senseless fun, but it doesn't draw me in like BioShock did.