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Mafia in the Dark - Censor Win

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DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? ;) )
11. Nyquill - Leans town
12. akrolsimr - Leans Town/Neutral
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
I disagree, Rantai. The vote is the most powerful tool a town player has, indicating commitment and a desire to actually get someone lynched. Not using it indicates you don't believe enough in what you're saying, you're not willing to go on the record, you're avoiding blame for being wrong. Or you're to lazy to think about who actually could be mafia.

Perhaps if Jinxy had been making decent contributions throughout I'd be more forgiving of his lack of a voting history, but that isn't exactly the case here.

Anyways, scum: Rantai, Jinxy, and ... mara? kanye?
Mara
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Mara

Nyquill wrote:

you mean console.
It doesn't sound like a console.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
posting from work.

just read through all the recent pages and wanted to say a few things.

DxS commenting on my "activity" in any mafia game is laughable at best. you are like the nr1 lurker / dropout of every mafia game ever.

almost leads me to believe that you are mafia because maybe having a "fun" role would give you more incentive to actually take a game seriously.

also I'm getting a seriously scummy vibe from Rantai, but I already kind of mentioned that earlier. He is playing more aggressively than I remember him playing as a mafia, so who knows... I could be wrong here.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Uh, last time I was mafia, I basically blew up the entire mafia side of the game cause I instantly got lynched. If you do know me foulcoon you would know I play as a terrible mafia aligned player. But it seems that you won't think otherwise as always. If anything I've lately been tending to favor independent or Town power roles. Just throwing my thoughts out there again.
foulcoon
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foulcoon

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Uh, last time I was mafia, I basically blew up the entire mafia side of the game cause I instantly got lynched. If you do know me foulcoon you would know I play as a terrible mafia aligned player. But it seems that you won't think otherwise as always. If anything I've lately been tending to favor independent or Town power roles. Just throwing my thoughts out there again.

what do you even mean "as always" you don't know anything about how I think because you quit mafia games or just lurk in them.

and you don't favor any roles, that's why you quit or lurk in every mafia game.


You mean to tell me that a drastic change in the way you play shouldn't throw off any red flags to me? You're actually contributing for once.

Also: any game in which you get lynched that fast is not a good judge of meta.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami

foulcoon wrote:

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Uh, last time I was mafia, I basically blew up the entire mafia side of the game cause I instantly got lynched. If you do know me foulcoon you would know I play as a terrible mafia aligned player. But it seems that you won't think otherwise as always. If anything I've lately been tending to favor independent or Town power roles. Just throwing my thoughts out there again.

what do you even mean "as always" you don't know anything about how I think because you quit mafia games or just lurk in them.

and you don't favor any roles, that's why you quit or lurk in every mafia game.


You mean to tell me that a drastic change in the way you play shouldn't throw off any red flags to me? You're actually contributing for once.

Also: any game in which you get lynched that fast is not a good judge of meta.
First off, all the games are still here archived. I tend to go back at times and read the entire past mafia game threads so it gives me a general idea on how people are playing and such. Also it's giving you "red flags" that I'm suddenly choosing to be much more active in mafia games? Then tell me foulcoon, how should I play that satisfies you huh? This entire game you've been going after everyone based upon random feelings or by your gut trying to label them as mafia without clear examples. Seems to me you're just picking on me solely cause of my inactivity meta, disinterest and lurking.
Rantai
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Rantai

akrolsmir wrote:

I disagree, Rantai. (1) The vote is the most powerful tool a town player has, indicating commitment and a desire to actually get someone lynched. (2) Not using it indicates you don't believe enough in what you're saying, you're not willing to go on the record, you're avoiding blame for being wrong. (3) Or you're to lazy to think about who actually could be mafia.
1. Yes, you're right. But it's still a null tell.

2. So you're saying it's better to vote someone that you're not sure about/don't believe to be scum than not voting? Right.

3. Or one may not be willing to randomly vote without reason.

Also if we're going to talk votes, I like how your D1 vote was on Nyquil where you specifically stated that you'd like to have him copped/aux etc and Backfire/Kayne lynched. Your vote achieved the exact same thing as not voting, except you're swimming in a pool of backpedaling.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
So hi I just had a hell lot of proposals and projects to write for the past few days so inactivity

JInxyjem wrote:

foulcoon might have said the grammatical error thing without knowing Hitter edited in the sample PM, so I can't say I 100% agree that he was trying to softclaim vanilla town. I'm not confirming him, just saying your vote seems rushed, akro.

JInxyjem wrote:

Thinking about it, I feel that foulcoon's mafia. If he was an aux, then it would make more sense for him to keep quiet than talk about the error and risk attracting the attention of mafia if they do not believe he's really vanilla.
These two posts are probably the ones you're calling contradictory. My first post was in response to akrol voting foul because foul looked like he was softclaiming. That vote just felt wrong to me.
The second post was after akrol made speculation about how foul was aux, and my reply was thought in a way of what if foulcoon really softclaimed, and then I figured it was highly unlikely for him to be aux, and I'd think he was mafia if I had to choose between those two.

Also, I never vote unless I am very sure of someone.


Now, my own opinions. One thing I've noticed...

kanye west wrote:

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Unvote: akrolsmir


Vote: kanye west
Lybydose I understand your reasoning but this guy is such obvious scum that it's not even funny
kanye didn't even try to rebut Lybydose. He admits his post mimicking is scummy, and then tries to move the focus from him to papi.
Papi Bear
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Papi Bear
Uh.. Should I be lynched by now?

Anyway, Good Luck on this game. I had a good time playing. Thanks and bye. :D
NoHitter
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NoHitter
*bzzt*

"A lynch mob you say? Except we'll just steal the tag off them?"
"A brilliant idea in my opinion. No need for bloodshed and all - just an electrocuted corpse."

"Hey! Stop it guys! Damn it... Fine... I have no choice, but you will regret it!"
"Oh he stopped resisting? This is..."

*bzzt*

You have selected Papi Bear ROCKS.
Please scan. *crackle* Pulse detected!
Will eliminate tag bearer in three... two... one...

Displaying the results... Papi Bear ROCKS...
Error! Error! Tag is... INVALId---!@!#@ VIRUS! VIRUS! SYSTEM LOCKDO--

The system has closed off the... System has been damaged partially...
Papi Bear ROCKS - Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2

*bzzt*

"The system says he's a culprit..."
"But damn! Now the system is saying that the ground floor can't be accessed anymore."

"Aren't some people trapped down there?"
"We... don't..."

*bzzt*

THE UNKNOWN!
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
*bzzt*

"Ha! They can't get me here..."
"The roof? Kind of cliche if you ask me..."

"Who is it? You... you're the ones behind this. How did you ge-"
"That is none of your concern. You're only concern is how you'll look like splashed on the ground!"
"Enough talk, just use the stun gun already..."

*crackle*

"So everyone is here? Wait... Anyone seen akrolsmir?"
"He said he was going to check on something."

"Alone? Damn it. He should know better..."
"Yeah... there are people out to ki- What the hell!"

"Did you guys see..."
"See what?"

"I thought I saw a human figure fall down outside the window..."
"Huh?"

"I saw it too..."
"Me too..."

*bzzt*

akrolsmir's tag has been destroy--ed!
Activating auto-informat---ion. *bzzt* Sacnnnnni--ng
Data recovered tag... *bzzt*

Displaying the results... akrolsmir was an employ---ee
akrolsmir - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 2

*bzzt*

"That figure was..."
"Apparently akrolsmir."

"Wait... but everyone was in this room right?"
"Was it an accident?"

*bzzt*

IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!
WITH 8 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.
Rantai
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Rantai
Uh, ok then.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Soo...how was everyone's night?
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
Success!

gl guys.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
So judging by akrol's flip after he "tried something" last night, does anybody else think that these role flips are completely wrong? Starting to think we didn't actually hit a mafia roleblocker -_-
Rantai
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Rantai
I took it he was trying to bait mafia somehow from the previous day (not a clue how that works).

This setup is confusing .-.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
He was probably trying to draw the kill away from auxes.

However, with akrolsmir gone, what does that leave us to work with.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
@ Nyquill: Possibly Kanye, who isn't really responding with much at all
Jinxy
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Jinxy

akrolsmir wrote:

Success!

gl guys.
I don't think he would say "success" if he was an aux and got his flip changed.

Unless Hitter forces all the killed people to write a last post as he dictates, but that's silly.
Kanye West
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Kanye West
We have no reason to believe the flips are wrong. Papi sounded scummy and it turned out that he was scum. No surprises there. But akrolsmir's death did succeed in making Rantai look really scummy, which could be another reason he posted what he did. Out of all the people akro believed to be mafia, I think he's the most likely candidate anyways

vote Rantai

for now
Rantai
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Rantai
I would have had nothing to gain from shooting Akro if I was scum. In fact, me being painted like no tomorrow would have happened (surprise surprise?)
foulcoon
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foulcoon

kanye west wrote:

We have no reason to believe the flips are wrong. Papi sounded scummy and it turned out that he was scum. No surprises there. But akrolsmir's death did succeed in making Rantai look really scummy, which could be another reason he posted what he did. Out of all the people akro believed to be mafia, I think he's the most likely candidate anyways

vote Rantai

for now
I have reason to believe the flips are wrong. Since this game has started I've received 2 "information" PMs from Hitter. In the beginning, the grammatical error thing, I truly didn't know that the role PM for vanilla townie was in the OP. That being said that is my exact role PM, I was told that I was a vanilla townie.

That being said, these 2 PMs told me:

pieguy was not a Lyncher, he was a Vanilla Townie (says that I checked his identity before)

Papi Bear was a Vanilla Townie (also goes as far to say he was innocent)

Now normally I would wait til the next day in hopes of getting some actual information, but I'm starting to believe I'm some kind of naive Coroner who thinks everybody is a vanilla townie. This of course would mean that my initial role PM was wrong anyway.

Any thoughts?
Rantai
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Rantai
That's really confusing. Why is it you only get 'coroner' info for those 2 particular deaths?

Only reason I can see is when they aren't flipped as Vanilla Townie which brings up the question as to why are there anomalous flips in the first place. It's too random for a host side effect leading me to believe either you have a similar role to what you stated (something like how LS was a janitor serial killer claiming coroner, for example) or someone else is screwing with the flips and you're picking up on them as they are screwed with.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
doesnt make any sense to me either... I asked hitter if i had any kind of night action and he said no
Mara
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Mara
I think I should start to read the thread soon.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
replace me, lots of work and exams soon
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Leaning towards a Kanye vote, myself. Really unsure on a good lynch target.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
Is it actually possible for you to have an invisible role?

Basically asking,:

Nyquill wrote:

Can I assume that at least our role PMs are accurate?
Rantai
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Rantai
.... hrm.

Ok what did everyone actually get as their pm?

I got Vanilla Townie.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
Mass claim?

Cop. I've got two innocents so far, Animask (DxS) (Night 1) and Foulcoon(Night 2). Starting to think I might be naive.
Rantai
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Rantai
I can at least throw out the idea that everyone got vanilla townie as their PM
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh yeah. I'm going to be lynched at deadline which happens to be rather soon.

So without further ado; Vote: Kayne
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Vote: Rantai
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Vote: kanye west
Kanye West
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Kanye West
I got vanilla townie in my role PM as well.

Why the votes for me? At least I'm trying to scumhunt. Lybydose hasn't even posted today, animask hasn't posted at all, and Mara hasn't said anything at all with what he posted.
Nyquill
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Nyquill

kanye west wrote:

animask hasn't posted at all
You're not following the thread well enough to notice that he has been replaced xD

Also, why didn't everyone follow through with the MC?
Mara
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Mara

kanye west wrote:

Mara hasn't said anything at all with what he posted.
ohboyherewego.jpg
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Day will now end 24 hours from now.
Rantai
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Rantai
Well. I'm dead.

And no, you did not hit mafia.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
HOLD IT!

day isn't over yet

Unvote

Vote: kanye west
NoHitter
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*bzzt*

"The jig is up kanye! We know you're a culprit!"
"Hey no! I'm not! Stop accusing me of crap!."

"If you won't give it willingly, we'll take it from you forceful. Give us your tag."
"Like hell I will, I'll die!"

*punch*

UUuuu habbbvve seelect... kanye west.
Ple... sca... *bzzt* Pulsssse detecctttcted!
VVIll el...ate taaaaa *crackle* in tres... er... five...

Shwoing??? D resultzs... kanye west...
TAGGGGG ISSSS NOTTT INNN SYSTEMMMM DATABASEEEEEE

Error error error...
Papi Bear ROCKS - Mafia Flavor Cop - Lynched Day 3

*bzzt*

"..."
"Is there something wrong with the system?"

"Hmm... we can try to fix it? Is there anyone here who knows how too..."
"I guess I could..."

*bzzt*

operation is now normal
please do not worry about the system.
it is now fixed.

*bzzt*

CONCEALMENT!
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
*bzzt*

"Crap. This device is... Ahh I see..."
"Hello there, foulcoon."

"You must be the ones..."
"Tsk tsk tsk. I didn't imagine that someone like you was here."

"Why did you do this!"
"Quiet! It doesn't matter anymore."

*bang*

"Bad news everyone. We found foulcoon's body in one of the third floor restrooms."
"What? Where were his partners? I thought we were going in groups of three?"

"Errm... You see he ran off all of a sudden."
"That idiot... There are six of us left..."

"Here. Take the tag and scan it."
"But that computer system is..."

"Might as well see if it works. "
"I suppose so..."

*bzzt*

scanning foulcoon tag.
data is being displayed.

displaying. displaying. screen. foulcoon was a fired employee.
foulcoon - Town Naive Coroner - Killed Night 3

*bzzt*

!?!
WITH 6 ALIVE, IT TAKES 4 TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE IS IN 72 HOURS.
Rantai
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Rantai
Alright guys it seems I was foulcoon's enabler (or something similar to that) upon his death. Apparently he left a note saying that all his coroner information was inaccurate and that he left revised records in a toilet. That toilet smelled like crap

The results came out to be:

Guests:

Backfire (Revealed Vanilla, lynch D1)
pieguy1372 (Revealed Lyncher, shot N1)
kanye west (Revealed Mafia Flavour Cop, lynched D3)

Employees:

Papi Bear ROCKS (Revealed Mafia Roleblocker, lynched D2)
akrolsmir (Revealed Vanilla, shot N2)
foulcoon (Revealed Town Naive Coroner, shot N3)

Anything in brackets is what I added for convenience. It also seems that fouldcoon was originally a vanilla. There must be some sort of pattern (or this is random and Hitter is screwing with me with useless info).
Nyquill
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I scanned Jinxy and got a positive, at this point I can't tell if I am random or I am correct.
At any rate, we should wait for his replacement to see what he has to say.

Rantai: I can't tell what the difference between a guest and an employee is. Did your PM say anything about that?
Rantai
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Rantai
Nope my pm was about as cryptic as all of Hitter's posts so far, ie it doesn't explain anything.

I should mention that the information was found on a "tag checker device"
Mara
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Mara
I did nothing. I am a horrible person, am I?
Rantai
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Rantai
Hi guise.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Vote: LunaticMara

Ssshhhhhh
Mara
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Mara
SSSHHHH
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Extending deadline by one day.
Rantai
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Rantai
Well I'm ok with this lynch I guess. Still... so quiet.
Mara
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Mara
Actually I just noticed that there isn't so much talk at all.
Mara
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Mara
Oh wait, I just noticed I am getting lynched. WHOOPIES!

I also noticed that there aren't so many players alive anymore. According to OP, there are

1. JInxyjem
2. Lybydose
4. Rantai
8. LunaticMara
10. DeathxShinigami
11. Nyquill

I am not sure if I should trust on DxS's vote, it feels like "easy lynch is easy since nobody is posting" but that's my perspective.

Too lazy to read the thread, confirmed people? Roles?

Imma faggottownie
Rantai
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Rantai
Nyquill is a cop and I'm the coroner's enabler (or something like that). Outside that everything else is a blur.
Mara
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Mara
The hell is coroner's enabler? Nyquill's investigations?
Rantai
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Rantai
I'm using 'enabler' tentatively. Basically when foulcoon died my (hidden) role activated such that the coroner results that I received were the true coroner results.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
*bzzt*

lunaticmara was a guest.
LunaticMara - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 4

rantai was an employee.
Rantai - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 4

*bzzt*

"But that was pretty obvious wasn't it? I mean everyone was either a guest or an employee."
"Except for the Skye guy. Though I didn't expect someone to actually have their own tag scanning machine."

"Nevertheless, we did it didn't we? Hacked the tag scanning system - albeit not perfect."
"We still were able to fool them didn't we? I was worried they were going to start to doubt the 'information' that the system gave them."

"So, now. The last two are employees, yes? Well, the last two 'employees' will end up in an untimely accident."
"I've set up the bombs already. The ground floor should still be locked down. We'll escape from the roof."

JInxyjem - Vanilla Townie - Endgamed
DeathxShinigami - Vanilla Townie - Endgamed

*boom*

Authorities are still investigating the bombing incident that occurred in the government-owned Hotel Chaff.
The hotel boasted an automatic identification and security system that would keep all guests safe.
The terrorists who were suspected to have bombed the building are believed to have died in the ex...

*bzzt*

"Can we at least listen to some music? It's not like we didn't know about what happened in that hotel."
"What a reckless plan... Jumping across the street to the next building's roof just as the hotel was about to topple over?"

"Well you can't argue that it didn't work."
"Right..."

Lybydose - Mafia Censor - Survived
Nyquill - Mafia Censor - Survived

INFORMATION IS NOTHING.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Setup:
2 - Mafia Censors - Have the ability to control what role a person will flip as.
10 - Vanilla Townies - One of which will get the real flip of a person via PM's. When that person dies, he will be replaced with another.

Quicktopics:
Mafia Chat
Dead Chat

Role PM's:
Mafia Censor
There are only two of you.
Your mission is to eliminate everyone else.

Though outnumbered, you have the advantage.
You both can weave deceptions and lies. Information is nothing.
Everyone else is also weak. They all cannot do anything at night.

At the end of each day, you may decide what a person will flip as when they are lynched.
Each night, you may submit a kill and a role and alignment which the person will flip as.
Be wary though, some can see through the lies that you may put out.

You both are Mafia Censors.
You have one factional kill each night. You may also choose to decide what the person you kill will flip as.

Everyone else is a Vanilla Townie.
There may be however, someone who will know the real role of the person who got killed.

You win when you control half the votes.

Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/AeR9rC5bCF8i
Vanilla Townie
Having no knowledge of anything?
It is the worse situation to be in.
Lies and deception all around.

You cannot do anything, nor have anything to give out.
What must you do to ensure survival when you do not even know your allies?

You are a Vanilla Townie.
You cannot do anything at night.
You win when all threats to you are gone.
Rantai
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Rantai
God that was incredibly confusing.

I don't even.
Papi Bear
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Papi Bear
Nyquill is a big liar! XD
Papi Bear
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Papi Bear
And the scanner killed me twice too! ~_~
foulcoon
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foulcoon
yeah i figured out nyquill was scum the night i was killed lmfao.

Also DICK MOVE HITTER on what you told Rantai. Really gave him no chance to figure it out.
NoHitter
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FTR, I realized it and told Rantai that they were all just Vanilla Townies, and it was just flavor.
I even extended Day by one day in the hope that he would get it.
*shrugs*
Mara
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Mara
fak juu gaiz
Nyquill
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But all in all that didn't really turn out to be an active enough of a game. I'm sure you guys could have figured out that I made 2-3 obvious mistakes and then that I was scum lol.

(I should have just kept quiet and claim townie)
akrolsmir
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Good (though inactive) game, I guess.

If they had actually followed through with the massclaim they would have easily caught you, Nyquill.

Was drawing the kill N2 the right move?
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