That's actually my thought here, I'm attributing his blatantly scum play with being new.

Problem being is that if he is scum then it's going to be extremely confusing as the player count gets smaller.

JInxyjem wrote:

Mod: Votecount Pls
papi we are going to blame you, because you voted kanye without giving a reason of your own

I'm saving my ass on this game! Since I got that second vote, I voted for kanye to make it equal..



I don't expect that this game can get hot! XD


I should be more careful in the next game then.. That is, if they let me.. Lynch me then.

Can I ask a question? What role did you get when you first play Mafia?

Hmm, for the first time ever (maybe 2nd) I'm going to need to ask for a replacement.

Vote: papi bear

for being obviously scum and one of the 3 I was originally suspicious of

One more vote and I'm a dead bear..

Before we lynch you, how about you claim?

Vote: akrolsmir

For good measure.

Roleclaim?

Ie; State what role you were given in your pm from the host.

I'm just a townie though..

Right, a vanilla townie claim.

Confirming, give me a couple hours to read through this game. Currently have a free day so I should be okay

*bzzt*

Malfunct- *crackle* replacement.
animask is now DeathxShinigami.

*bzzt*

Let's see if this works.

delete system32

And yes, you can send commands via radio.

LunaticMara wrote:

And yes, you can send commands via radio.

you mean console.

so DxS, do you have anything to add?

It looks like today's ending with a papi wagon. Kind of to be expected, and we won't miss the bad play I guess.

At any rate, I think I'll try something tonight. On the off chance I get killed tonight, here are my reads as of now:

1. JInxyjem - neutral
2. Lybydose - leaning town
3. foulcoon - town
4. Rantai - mafia
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - leaning town
8. LunaticMara - leaning mafia
9. kanye west - leaning mafia
10. animask DeathxShinigami - neutral
11. Nyquill - town

Huge post incoming. Don't try to get hurt!

Analysis of players

Jinxyjem

Seems very pro town aligned, Day 1 started RQS due to the newbie nature of the group of players this game which sparked good activity within everyone else. Props to him if he flips mafia though since he's played a very solid activity game.

Lybydose

MVP? Probably. Strong posts in general, Good at picking other user's posts in the game and has compiled a good meta in this game. Leaning Town.

foulcoon

Not sure what to think. Activity is rather random as always and I'm basing that on meta. Seems to stall for time and/or making meaningless points in his posts. Though at least play-wise is "okay"' considering the players in this game. Tossup.

Rantai

Experienced. Picks through posts, asks tough questions at basically everyone in the game and feels town to me. Probably Town. (The other runner for MVP imo)

Papi Bear ROCKS

Ugh no. Inconsistent posts. Not sure if cause you have no idea what you're doing cause you're a newbie or just dumb. Generally random and content in posts is just...terrible. If there's nothing to go on. I'm probably going to vote for Papi most likely. Unknown.

LunaticMara

The ultimate Jester. Has fun playing and contributes jokes into the game without giving much content. Doesn't seem too scummy but doesn't seem rather town aligned either. Not much of a read. Tossup

kanye west

Not very consistent either. Seems to not take time to think on what to post upon and generally sides with others in the game without contributing much at all. Could just be busy or scum trying not to slip. Leaning mafia.

animask

Terrible activity. Tried to join thinking he'd actually make more sense in mafia games but ended up dropping out Day 2 due to activity problems? Asks a couple of questions but they are largely ignored in discussions. I'm just the lowly replacement though but I'll try my best to play~

Nyquill

Strong beginner player. Hits people with a couple of good questions here and there while remaining neutral in general. Really enjoyed statements made overall. Leaning town.

akrolsimr

Poor guy, bottom of the sign ups and constantly hit by nearly everyone just like Papi and kanye, Strong activity and contributes very well. Calling akrolsimr as town however.


Based on my comments this is just a personal list rated as Town to Scum


Lybydose
JInxyjem
Rantai
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
LunaticMara
Nyquill
foulcoon
kanye west
Papi Bear ROCKS


Oh yeah, and seems a lot of the players atm think Papi is a good lynch target for the day and I agree with that so...

Vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

Oh yeah, gonna make my predictions for player alignment

1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? )
11. Nyquill - Leans town

MafiaVotecount v0.2b wrote:

History from page 7 (* denotes latest vote.):

• *kanye west - vote: papi bear rocks
  *akrolsmir - vote: rantai
  papi bear rocks - vote: akrolsmir
  *nyquill - vote: papi bear rocks
  *lybydose - vote: kanye west
  *papi bear rocks - unvote: akrolsmir vote: kanye west
  *lunaticmara - vote: papi
  *foulcoon - vote: papi bear
  *rantai - vote: akrolsmir
  *deathxshinigami - vote: papi bear rocks

Current Votes:

• kanye west - vote: papi bear rocks
  akrolsmir - vote: rantai
  nyquill - vote: papi bear rocks
  lybydose - vote: kanye west
  papi bear rocks - unvote: akrolsmir vote: kanye west
  lunaticmara - vote: papi
  foulcoon - vote: papi bear
  rantai - vote: akrolsmir
  deathxshinigami - vote: papi bear rocks

Edit to my reads: Jinxyjem- mafia

@DxS - I have no clue what you're talking about for Jinxy. The merits of his questions are questionable at best- to me it looks like it stifled half a day of discussion and ultimately it led to nothing. The rest of his "solid activity game" consists of throwing out some contradictory, half-hearted observations. And never voting even once.

akrolsmir wrote:

@DxS - I have no clue what you're talking about for Jinxy. The merits of his questions are questionable at best- to me it looks like it stifled half a day of discussion and ultimately it led to nothing. The rest of his "solid activity game" consists of throwing out some contradictory, half-hearted observations. And never voting even once.

I still disagree even though I took another read through of his posts. He started discussion which is a plus in the beginning of a mafia game. He led many players to make numerous slip ups which can help prove they are scum. Makes me wonder now...

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Oh yeah, gonna make my predictions for player alignment

1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? )
11. Nyquill - Leans town

You missed akro.

Also not voting is a null tell, akro. Trying to use the reasoning that not joining the bandwagon must be a method of scum trying to avoid lynching a town holds as much strength as scum joining a bandwagon for an easy lynch. Not sure where you're trying to go with that, cop out maybe?

1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? )
11. Nyquill - Leans town
12. akrolsimr - Leans Town/Neutral

I disagree, Rantai. The vote is the most powerful tool a town player has, indicating commitment and a desire to actually get someone lynched. Not using it indicates you don't believe enough in what you're saying, you're not willing to go on the record, you're avoiding blame for being wrong. Or you're to lazy to think about who actually could be mafia.

Perhaps if Jinxy had been making decent contributions throughout I'd be more forgiving of his lack of a voting history, but that isn't exactly the case here.

Anyways, scum: Rantai, Jinxy, and ... mara? kanye?

Nyquill wrote:

you mean console.

It doesn't sound like a console.

posting from work.

just read through all the recent pages and wanted to say a few things.

DxS commenting on my "activity" in any mafia game is laughable at best. you are like the nr1 lurker / dropout of every mafia game ever.

almost leads me to believe that you are mafia because maybe having a "fun" role would give you more incentive to actually take a game seriously.

also I'm getting a seriously scummy vibe from Rantai, but I already kind of mentioned that earlier. He is playing more aggressively than I remember him playing as a mafia, so who knows... I could be wrong here.

Uh, last time I was mafia, I basically blew up the entire mafia side of the game cause I instantly got lynched. If you do know me foulcoon you would know I play as a terrible mafia aligned player. But it seems that you won't think otherwise as always. If anything I've lately been tending to favor independent or Town power roles. Just throwing my thoughts out there again.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Uh, last time I was mafia, I basically blew up the entire mafia side of the game cause I instantly got lynched. If you do know me foulcoon you would know I play as a terrible mafia aligned player. But it seems that you won't think otherwise as always. If anything I've lately been tending to favor independent or Town power roles. Just throwing my thoughts out there again.

what do you even mean "as always" you don't know anything about how I think because you quit mafia games or just lurk in them.

and you don't favor any roles, that's why you quit or lurk in every mafia game.


You mean to tell me that a drastic change in the way you play shouldn't throw off any red flags to me? You're actually contributing for once.

Also: any game in which you get lynched that fast is not a good judge of meta.

foulcoon wrote:

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Uh, last time I was mafia, I basically blew up the entire mafia side of the game cause I instantly got lynched. If you do know me foulcoon you would know I play as a terrible mafia aligned player. But it seems that you won't think otherwise as always. If anything I've lately been tending to favor independent or Town power roles. Just throwing my thoughts out there again.

what do you even mean "as always" you don't know anything about how I think because you quit mafia games or just lurk in them.

and you don't favor any roles, that's why you quit or lurk in every mafia game.


You mean to tell me that a drastic change in the way you play shouldn't throw off any red flags to me? You're actually contributing for once.

Also: any game in which you get lynched that fast is not a good judge of meta.

First off, all the games are still here archived. I tend to go back at times and read the entire past mafia game threads so it gives me a general idea on how people are playing and such. Also it's giving you "red flags" that I'm suddenly choosing to be much more active in mafia games? Then tell me foulcoon, how should I play that satisfies you huh? This entire game you've been going after everyone based upon random feelings or by your gut trying to label them as mafia without clear examples. Seems to me you're just picking on me solely cause of my inactivity meta, disinterest and lurking.

akrolsmir wrote:

I disagree, Rantai. (1) The vote is the most powerful tool a town player has, indicating commitment and a desire to actually get someone lynched. (2) Not using it indicates you don't believe enough in what you're saying, you're not willing to go on the record, you're avoiding blame for being wrong. (3) Or you're to lazy to think about who actually could be mafia.

1. Yes, you're right. But it's still a null tell.

2. So you're saying it's better to vote someone that you're not sure about/don't believe to be scum than not voting? Right.

3. Or one may not be willing to randomly vote without reason.

Also if we're going to talk votes, I like how your D1 vote was on Nyquil where you specifically stated that you'd like to have him copped/aux etc and Backfire/Kayne lynched. Your vote achieved the exact same thing as not voting, except you're swimming in a pool of backpedaling.

So hi I just had a hell lot of proposals and projects to write for the past few days so inactivity

JInxyjem wrote:

foulcoon might have said the grammatical error thing without knowing Hitter edited in the sample PM, so I can't say I 100% agree that he was trying to softclaim vanilla town. I'm not confirming him, just saying your vote seems rushed, akro.

JInxyjem wrote:

Thinking about it, I feel that foulcoon's mafia. If he was an aux, then it would make more sense for him to keep quiet than talk about the error and risk attracting the attention of mafia if they do not believe he's really vanilla.

These two posts are probably the ones you're calling contradictory. My first post was in response to akrol voting foul because foul looked like he was softclaiming. That vote just felt wrong to me.
The second post was after akrol made speculation about how foul was aux, and my reply was thought in a way of what if foulcoon really softclaimed, and then I figured it was highly unlikely for him to be aux, and I'd think he was mafia if I had to choose between those two.

Also, I never vote unless I am very sure of someone.


Now, my own opinions. One thing I've noticed...

kanye west wrote:

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Unvote: akrolsmir


Vote: kanye west

Lybydose I understand your reasoning but this guy is such obvious scum that it's not even funny

kanye didn't even try to rebut Lybydose. He admits his post mimicking is scummy, and then tries to move the focus from him to papi.

Uh.. Should I be lynched by now?

Anyway, Good Luck on this game. I had a good time playing. Thanks and bye.

*bzzt*

"A lynch mob you say? Except we'll just steal the tag off them?"
"A brilliant idea in my opinion. No need for bloodshed and all - just an electrocuted corpse."

"Hey! Stop it guys! Damn it... Fine... I have no choice, but you will regret it!"
"Oh he stopped resisting? This is..."

*bzzt*

You have selected Papi Bear ROCKS.
Please scan. *crackle* Pulse detected!
Will eliminate tag bearer in three... two... one...

Displaying the results... Papi Bear ROCKS...
Error! Error! Tag is... INVALId---!@!#@ VIRUS! VIRUS! SYSTEM LOCKDO--

The system has closed off the... System has been damaged partially...
Papi Bear ROCKS - Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2

*bzzt*

"The system says he's a culprit..."
"But damn! Now the system is saying that the ground floor can't be accessed anymore."

"Aren't some people trapped down there?"
"We... don't..."

*bzzt*

THE UNKNOWN!
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.

*bzzt*

"Ha! They can't get me here..."
"The roof? Kind of cliche if you ask me..."

"Who is it? You... you're the ones behind this. How did you ge-"
"That is none of your concern. You're only concern is how you'll look like splashed on the ground!"
"Enough talk, just use the stun gun already..."

*crackle*

"So everyone is here? Wait... Anyone seen akrolsmir?"
"He said he was going to check on something."

"Alone? Damn it. He should know better..."
"Yeah... there are people out to ki- What the hell!"

"Did you guys see..."
"See what?"

"I thought I saw a human figure fall down outside the window..."
"Huh?"

"I saw it too..."
"Me too..."

*bzzt*

akrolsmir's tag has been destroy--ed!
Activating auto-informat---ion. *bzzt* Sacnnnnni--ng
Data recovered tag... *bzzt*

Displaying the results... akrolsmir was an employ---ee
akrolsmir - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 2

*bzzt*

"That figure was..."
"Apparently akrolsmir."

"Wait... but everyone was in this room right?"
"Was it an accident?"

*bzzt*

IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!
WITH 8 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.

Uh, ok then.

Soo...how was everyone's night?

Success!

gl guys.

So judging by akrol's flip after he "tried something" last night, does anybody else think that these role flips are completely wrong? Starting to think we didn't actually hit a mafia roleblocker -_-

I took it he was trying to bait mafia somehow from the previous day (not a clue how that works).

This setup is confusing .-.

He was probably trying to draw the kill away from auxes.

However, with akrolsmir gone, what does that leave us to work with.

@ Nyquill: Possibly Kanye, who isn't really responding with much at all

akrolsmir wrote:

Success!

gl guys.

I don't think he would say "success" if he was an aux and got his flip changed.

Unless Hitter forces all the killed people to write a last post as he dictates, but that's silly.

We have no reason to believe the flips are wrong. Papi sounded scummy and it turned out that he was scum. No surprises there. But akrolsmir's death did succeed in making Rantai look really scummy, which could be another reason he posted what he did. Out of all the people akro believed to be mafia, I think he's the most likely candidate anyways

vote Rantai

for now

I would have had nothing to gain from shooting Akro if I was scum. In fact, me being painted like no tomorrow would have happened (surprise surprise?)

kanye west wrote:

We have no reason to believe the flips are wrong. Papi sounded scummy and it turned out that he was scum. No surprises there. But akrolsmir's death did succeed in making Rantai look really scummy, which could be another reason he posted what he did. Out of all the people akro believed to be mafia, I think he's the most likely candidate anyways

vote Rantai

for now

I have reason to believe the flips are wrong. Since this game has started I've received 2 "information" PMs from Hitter. In the beginning, the grammatical error thing, I truly didn't know that the role PM for vanilla townie was in the OP. That being said that is my exact role PM, I was told that I was a vanilla townie.

That being said, these 2 PMs told me:

pieguy was not a Lyncher, he was a Vanilla Townie (says that I checked his identity before)

Papi Bear was a Vanilla Townie (also goes as far to say he was innocent)

Now normally I would wait til the next day in hopes of getting some actual information, but I'm starting to believe I'm some kind of naive Coroner who thinks everybody is a vanilla townie. This of course would mean that my initial role PM was wrong anyway.

Any thoughts?

That's really confusing. Why is it you only get 'coroner' info for those 2 particular deaths?

Only reason I can see is when they aren't flipped as Vanilla Townie which brings up the question as to why are there anomalous flips in the first place. It's too random for a host side effect leading me to believe either you have a similar role to what you stated (something like how LS was a janitor serial killer claiming coroner, for example) or someone else is screwing with the flips and you're picking up on them as they are screwed with.

doesnt make any sense to me either... I asked hitter if i had any kind of night action and he said no

I think I should start to read the thread soon.

replace me, lots of work and exams soon

Leaning towards a Kanye vote, myself. Really unsure on a good lynch target.

Is it actually possible for you to have an invisible role?

Basically asking,:

Nyquill wrote:

Can I assume that at least our role PMs are accurate?

.... hrm.

Ok what did everyone actually get as their pm?

I got Vanilla Townie.

Mass claim?

Cop. I've got two innocents so far, Animask (DxS) (Night 1) and Foulcoon(Night 2). Starting to think I might be naive.

I can at least throw out the idea that everyone got vanilla townie as their PM

Oh yeah. I'm going to be lynched at deadline which happens to be rather soon.

So without further ado; Vote: Kayne

I got vanilla townie in my role PM as well.

Why the votes for me? At least I'm trying to scumhunt. Lybydose hasn't even posted today, animask hasn't posted at all, and Mara hasn't said anything at all with what he posted.

kanye west wrote:

animask hasn't posted at all

You're not following the thread well enough to notice that he has been replaced xD

Also, why didn't everyone follow through with the MC?

kanye west wrote:

Mara hasn't said anything at all with what he posted.

ohboyherewego.jpg

Well. I'm dead.

And no, you did not hit mafia.

HOLD IT!

day isn't over yet

Unvote

Vote: kanye west

*bzzt*

"The jig is up kanye! We know you're a culprit!"
"Hey no! I'm not! Stop accusing me of crap!."

"If you won't give it willingly, we'll take it from you forceful. Give us your tag."
"Like hell I will, I'll die!"

*punch*

UUuuu habbbvve seelect... kanye west.
Ple... sca... *bzzt* Pulsssse detecctttcted!
VVIll el...ate taaaaa *crackle* in tres... er... five...

Shwoing??? D resultzs... kanye west...
TAGGGGG ISSSS NOTTT INNN SYSTEMMMM DATABASEEEEEE

Error error error...
Papi Bear ROCKS - Mafia Flavor Cop - Lynched Day 3

*bzzt*

"..."
"Is there something wrong with the system?"

"Hmm... we can try to fix it? Is there anyone here who knows how too..."
"I guess I could..."

*bzzt*

operation is now normal
please do not worry about the system.
it is now fixed.

*bzzt*

CONCEALMENT!
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.

Alright guys it seems I was foulcoon's enabler (or something similar to that) upon his death. Apparently he left a note saying that all his coroner information was inaccurate and that he left revised records in a toilet. That toilet smelled like crap

The results came out to be:

Guests:

Backfire (Revealed Vanilla, lynch D1)
pieguy1372 (Revealed Lyncher, shot N1)
kanye west (Revealed Mafia Flavour Cop, lynched D3)

Employees:

Papi Bear ROCKS (Revealed Mafia Roleblocker, lynched D2)
akrolsmir (Revealed Vanilla, shot N2)
foulcoon (Revealed Town Naive Coroner, shot N3)

Anything in brackets is what I added for convenience. It also seems that fouldcoon was originally a vanilla. There must be some sort of pattern (or this is random and Hitter is screwing with me with useless info).

I scanned Jinxy and got a positive, at this point I can't tell if I am random or I am correct.
At any rate, we should wait for his replacement to see what he has to say.

Rantai: I can't tell what the difference between a guest and an employee is. Did your PM say anything about that?

Nope my pm was about as cryptic as all of Hitter's posts so far, ie it doesn't explain anything.

I should mention that the information was found on a "tag checker device"

I did nothing. I am a horrible person, am I?

Hi guise.

Vote: LunaticMara

Ssshhhhhh

SSSHHHH

Well I'm ok with this lynch I guess. Still... so quiet.

Actually I just noticed that there isn't so much talk at all.

Oh wait, I just noticed I am getting lynched. WHOOPIES!

I also noticed that there aren't so many players alive anymore. According to OP, there are

1. JInxyjem
2. Lybydose
4. Rantai
8. LunaticMara
10. DeathxShinigami
11. Nyquill

I am not sure if I should trust on DxS's vote, it feels like "easy lynch is easy since nobody is posting" but that's my perspective.

Too lazy to read the thread, confirmed people? Roles?

Imma faggottownie

Nyquill is a cop and I'm the coroner's enabler (or something like that). Outside that everything else is a blur.

The hell is coroner's enabler? Nyquill's investigations?

I'm using 'enabler' tentatively. Basically when foulcoon died my (hidden) role activated such that the coroner results that I received were the true coroner results.

Setup:
2 - Mafia Censors - Have the ability to control what role a person will flip as.
10 - Vanilla Townies - One of which will get the real flip of a person via PM's. When that person dies, he will be replaced with another.

Quicktopics:
Mafia Chat
Dead Chat

Role PM's:

God that was incredibly confusing.

I don't even.

Nyquill is a big liar! XD

And the scanner killed me twice too! ~_~

yeah i figured out nyquill was scum the night i was killed lmfao.

Also DICK MOVE HITTER on what you told Rantai. Really gave him no chance to figure it out.

FTR, I realized it and told Rantai that they were all just Vanilla Townies, and it was just flavor.
I even extended Day by one day in the hope that he would get it.
*shrugs*

fak juu gaiz

But all in all that didn't really turn out to be an active enough of a game. I'm sure you guys could have figured out that I made 2-3 obvious mistakes and then that I was scum lol.

(I should have just kept quiet and claim townie)

Good (though inactive) game, I guess.

If they had actually followed through with the massclaim they would have easily caught you, Nyquill.

Was drawing the kill N2 the right move?