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Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Nyquill wrote:

... you were shot and you are still alive?
Bulletproof role. Blocks X amount of shots before it goes out. (X is usually 1)
Nyquill
I derped, I haven't been in a chat mafia game with a bulletproof role yet.

So how do we get this ball rolling.
Rantai
Well with our cop dead we basically are running blind. At this stage I'm already considering a mass claim, but at the risk of the doctor it might not be the best course of action.

Right now though I'd like to know what happened to everyone else, to see what we're dealing with.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Few ways we can get this started:

First, Mod: How long does the day last?

..Being serious now:

We could start a RVS and possibly get someone off of that, but many people find this more detrimental than what it's worth.

We could start a RQS, and pretty much get the same results as above

OR

Since we started on night 0 instead of day 1 like we usually do, we could actually use something from night 0... granted, it might not do anything for us, but it's better than starting off with RVS.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Rantai wrote:

Right now though I'd like to know what happened to everyone else, to see what we're dealing with.
Not shot, but I did something rather pointless night 0.
Makar
I guess we have to wait for everybody to post for a possibility of two cops?

If we do a mass claim can't the docter just lie about his/her role?

Nothing really to report here :/
Topic Starter
Lilac
Day lasts for however long you want it to last.

Nah. I'd say 48 hours. That would be good
Sync
RVS wouldn't be beneficial at this point.

If anything, we can ask people some questions. Honestly, considering the setup, I doubt it's beneficial at all.

I might have logs of the IRC version we played a week or two ago. I can at least see which roles were used and we can go off that.

... as long as it's ok with the mod

Mod: Can I use logs from the previous game to help figure out some possible roles?
Nyquill
Just ask some questions huh.

Sync, Are you scum?

;3
Topic Starter
Lilac
If it makes you feel better at night, Sync.
DeathxShinigami
Hmm, without adding fluff to anything while contributing I'm just going to say that my role can be motivated upon.

That is all.
NoHitter
The Inducer game we had in IRC had one Positive Inducer, and one Negative Inducer.
Your role switches depending on whether you are positively or negatively induced.

In the IRC game we had, the Negative Inducer was Mafia. Positive Inducer was town.
IDK if that's still the case here.

And yes Sync, do show those logs.
If not then tell the roles in them. I suppose we can get info from there.
Makar
So... if the role switches then what would be examples of a role switched because of positive/negative induce?
Rantai
I suspect it goes along the lines of;

Take Mashley for example - Positive = Cop, Negative = Vig
Mashley
why
Makar

Mashley wrote:

why
Sucks to be killed Night 0 :/ this is why I dont really agree with starting games at night lol
Sync
[04:03] <Hitter> Sync has a good scum sense
[04:03] <Hitter> :)
[04:04] <Copter> Pretty much sync was right the whole time.
[04:04] <@Lilac> Reisen - Mafia Negative Inducer. Plus factional kill.
[04:04] <@Lilac> Youmu - Town Positive Inducer. 1 Shot BP.
[04:04] <@Lilac> Yuyuko - Initially doctor. Will be CPR Doc if made negative.
[04:04] <@Lilac> Meiling - Initially Bodyguard. Will Juggernaut if negative.
[04:04] <@Lilac> Alice - Cop initially. Will vig if negative.
Nyquill

Makar8000 wrote:

Mashley wrote:

why
Sucks to be killed Night 0 :/ this is why I dont really agree with starting games at night lol
Having a game starting night 0 has something to go on for a mass claim if you have a power role.

Also,

Nyquill wrote:

Just ask some questions huh.

Sync, Are you scum?

;3
Sync
To answer your question truthfully: the answer is no.
Nyquill
No will forever mean yes to me now.

SO WE STILL HAVE NOTHING.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Oh WIFOM, how I love thee.

:U
Nyquill
Are both inducers forced to use their roles at night?
Sync
If I remember correctly, we weren't (I was a positive-inducer); however, this may have changed.
Makar
From my experience in IRC special roles like that were never forced o.o'
Nyquill

Makar8000 wrote:

From my experience in IRC special roles like that were never forced o.o'
You CAN be over-eager, which has your night ability used on a random person.
Sync
Mark: it was hosted manually
Topic Starter
Lilac
12-13 hours left.

This is pretty...bland.
Rantai
Well all that meta game is all nice and dandy but what do you plan to actually do with it?

It's all just filler at this stage. Also I'll take it no one else had anything happen to them that they know of.
Rantai
Right now we have 7 alive, 1:6 (1:5:1?). I'm going to assume 2 kills per night due to the anomalous 2nd shot (Unless Mashley was both negative induced and decided to 'cop' me and got shot)

Also, by this stage anyone with half a brain should know which role I am by now, if not... well ok then.

If we have a serial killer on our hands then we really have 1 mislynch. But that also opens up the possibility of them shooting each other.

If the Mashley situation played out then we have at least 2 mislynches.

Both ways we're going to have to completely guess on scum seeing as no one is really saying anything. No lynch is out of the question, it's lynch now or lose a lynch. With that said we need to come to a consensus on who should go.

Seeing as meta is our only option - I ask who would shoot Mashley? Or on a lesser note, who would shoot me?
Rantai
Actually I'll answer that too, derp.

I'd think DxS is most likely to have shot Mashley, just a feeling I get.

Absolutely no idea who would shoot me, I know you all equally love hate me.
NoHitter
Stream of consciousness post ahead:

Actually DxS is a town read for me. His slight "hinting" that his role can be motivated seems townie in a sense. I don't think mafia would do something like that. Also meta says that DxS is acting the usual way.

Sync is also a town read for me due to the his giving information that would benefit town - roles and information about the IRC game we played before.

That leaves, Rantai, Swift, Nyquill and Makar.

Right now, Rantai is pretty much a null read. Meta so far is consistent with his town and scum meta.

Swift is also a null read. Though he did try to spark discussion with the "methods", it doesn't necessarily mean he's town or scum.

So with both Nyquill and Makar, I notice that they have an interest with the inducer and it's effects.
Nyquill asking if inducing was forced, and Makar verifying that they weren't forced on IRC.
Why do they display an interest? Well I'd rather not say the reason I think so.

Among Nyquill and Makar, gut tells me that Nyquill is more suspicious.
The "Are you scum?" question was also pointless, didn't contribute at all, and is WIFOM.
Ergo, Vote: Nyquill
Makar
Im just curious about it because we could try to use that information to trace who the inducers are (positive to verify that person is town, and negative to verify that the person is mafia). So... If we knew who was negatively induced we could try to trace back on who did it, sorta like rantai is asking in the previous post.

Also, I have a feeling nyquill is just asking out of curiosity or thinking the same thing as me on this; I don't think its a good reason to accuse him though we have nothing to go on at the moment. We don't have much time left in the day so its probably best to go with him on this
Rantai
Here's some food for thought; Hitter became happier last night.
Rantai
Though going by what Mashley's pm says, I'm not sure he is even aware of it.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Makar8000 wrote:

Im just curious about it because we could try to use that information to trace who the inducers are (positive to verify that person is town, and negative to verify that the person is mafia). So... If we knew who was negatively induced we could try to trace back on who did it, sorta like rantai is asking in the previous post.
Yeah, but that's the thing. You can't really tell if you've been induced or not.
Makar

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Makar8000 wrote:

Im just curious about it because we could try to use that information to trace who the inducers are (positive to verify that person is town, and negative to verify that the person is mafia). So... If we knew who was negatively induced we could try to trace back on who did it, sorta like rantai is asking in the previous post.
Yeah, but that's the thing. You can't really tell if you've been induced or not.
I guess we would have to wait then... if somebody was induced then that person who was induced should notice their ability changing right?

In that case maybe we should just no lynch this round
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Actually, they can't tell if their ability changed unless they were an informative role like the cop.
Makar

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Actually, they can't tell if their ability changed unless they were an informative role like the cop.
If lets say you had a docter role, and the person you tried to protect ended up being shot, then that should spark up a clue that your role has changed lol.

Of course we don't exactly know how roles change even based on the IRC log Sync gave (they could be different?), and it may just be pointless to try to find scum through this method.

I think we should nolynch this round, or vote Nyquill due to reasons NoHitter gave though I think its insufficient info.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Makar8000 wrote:

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Actually, they can't tell if their ability changed unless they were an informative role like the cop.
If lets say you had a docter role, and the person you tried to protect ended up being shot, then that should spark up a clue that your role has changed lol.
It's possible that if there's two mafia, they could have a strongman in that situation.
Rantai
Going a no lynch here serves no purpose here. We've already had one night and we'll be throwing away what could be our only lynch, if not, half of our possible lynches. Well unless we have a doc that successfully blocks (or similar role).

Just to emphasise, in a set up this small we need every lynch we can get.
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