I don't see the error, tbh.

NoHitter wrote:

Having no knowledge of anything?
It is the worse situation to be in.
Lies and deception all around.

I assume the error is "worse", but I think it works if it means "having lies around is worse than knowing nothing"

I don't think so, it has nothing to compare against.

I'm expecting some false information from the aux roles (if there are any). I don't really get the "in the dark" theme of this, but we'll discover it as we go along.

I wonder if the mafia know each other?

Can I assume that at least our role PMs are accurate?

Oh god, let's try not to break the game based off role PMs and instead try to do it right >.>

vote: LunaticMara

Get the ISOs here: p/1440893. (NoHitter, want to put it in the OP?)

RQS seems not to have generated anything whatsoever, and the day's already half done. pieguy, is that vote random?

Rather sure he was voting because of Mara's fjshffjfh post.

Nyquill wrote:

Can I assume that at least our role PMs are accurate?

Well at least we figured out one aux/mafia today.

foulcoon might have said the grammatical error thing without knowing Hitter edited in the sample PM, so I can't say I 100% agree that he was trying to softclaim vanilla town. I'm not confirming him, just saying your vote seems rushed, akro.

Cool. unvote, vote Nyquill. If he's not vanilla town he's more likely to be mafia than anyone else so far.

(the same can also be said for foulcoon, but I'm betting on aux in his case)

Edit in response to JIinxy: It was.

For the sake of argument, I'll just go with that.

But for the record, I was saying that because the PM could say that I am something that I'm not (Including all roles, mafia/aux/vanilla).

That vote was mostly random >_<

vote: JInxyjem, basically gut feeling

Gut feeling is just the greatest thing ever.

Nyquill wrote:

For the sake of argument, I'll just go with that.

But for the record, I was saying that because the PM could say that I am something that I'm not (Including all roles, mafia/aux/vanilla).

Bit of a stretch to compare a whole pm to a single grammatical error.

Noted, I will make myself clear next time.

Nothing I can do about that now though.

I always forget how boring day 1 is. Can we just lynch a random lurker and be done with it?

Want to roll a die and see who gets the axe?

In seriousness I see nothing to work on minus Nyquill being a possible non-vanilla. I'm not willing to lynch a possible aux just yet, if we have a cop I'd rather have them scan him.

I was thinking of kanye/backfire for a lynch.

So how about we get cop, watcher, tracker, doctor, and busdriver all on Nyquill?

vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

seriously?

@akrolsmir: I agree with auxes on Nyquill, but I'd say the bus driver should hold off. Would cause unnecessary confusion if a cop, watcher, or tracker were redirected.

Yeah, they didn't post after answering the RQS and all this grammatical error shit.

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Yeah, they didn't post after answering the RQS and all this grammatical error shit.

Who the hell are you referring to
Why did you vote akrolsmir

lol. Guys, I think he's trying to say that he's unvoting me. And referring to kanye/backfire, whom I did specifically pick for inactivity...

I voted for akro for being offensive to foulcool (that I just unvote it just then). Well, after all this conversation, Backfire and kayne didn't even responed..

Im not even paying attention fyi.

I didn't know it would be this boring :3

Lols I nearly read that as a vote too. I'm happy with everything on Nyquill, but in addition to busdriver, if we have a motivator, don't motivate him. Last thing we need is a motivated anti-town.

Well seeing as we have nothing to work on;

Vote: Kayne

He's said the least this whole game.

Backfire wrote:

I didn't know it would be this boring :3

It's just day 1 anyway..

Vote: kayne west

I don't even think Backfire would need to answer those.

Kanye's probably not even scum but whatever. He still has the rest of the time to persuade us of his (dubious) worth.

Ahhhhhhh I have like 90000 midterms today

will post in a few hours, k bye

Just went through the whole thread. Few things I noticed: we can pretty much make nothing out of foulcoon's "soft claim", and if we have a cop, it would probably be advisable for you to investigate Nyquil tonight.

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Vote: kayne west

If you're going to vote for me, at least spell my name right hfgsdbngiubfiadslhfds.

I'm going to vote: Backfire

because he obviously gives zero fucks about anything.

I cannot unsee "Kayne". You will forever be known as "Kayne" to me.

Just a heads up.

Unvote: Kayne

Rantai wrote:

Unvote: Kayne

I hate you guys. So much.

*bzzt*

"Are you sure it's safe to scan the tag when the person is still alive?"
"What makes you say that?"

"The system has a mechanism to protect living people from being analyzed."
"Nothing will happen if we don't try?"

*bzzt*

You have selected Backfire.
Please scan. *crackle* Pulse detected!
Will nullify tag bearer in three... two... one...

Displaying the results... Backfire is...
Backfire - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1

*bzzt*

"The hell! The system kills the person whose tag we scan?"
"Modifications?? I don't recall the system doing that."

"No way am I going to risk getting electrocuted!"
"We have no other option then..."

*bzzt*

NIGHTMARES WILL START!
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.

*bzzt*

"Pant... pant... pant... Get away from me!"
"Pant... pant... pant... Help! Anyone!"
"It's too late, isn't it?"

*bang*

You have selected pieguy1372.
Please scan. *crackle* Pulse absent!
Scanning tag... *bzzt*

Displaying the results... pieguy1372 was an assassin sent to kill *crackle*
pieguy1372 - Lyncher - Killed Night 1

*bzzt*

"An assassin out to kill someone was inside this place?"
"He must have been the one who killed Igor! We're safe now, aren't we?"
"Tch. I doubt it... Who the hell killed him then?"

*bzzt*

ACCURACY IS A MYSTERY!
WITH 10 ALIVE, IT TAKES 6 TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.

So, The lyncher died..

I have some opinion about who are the Mafias...

foulcoon and akrolsrir:

They've made the scene to malipulate us to vote for somebody important.

kanye west:

Minuets before the lynch scene, he insist to a cop to investigate Nyquill to save his ass.

Lunatic Mara:

Well, not really suspecting him. But I say that he's posting crap so he'll not be noticed to be lynch.

Just my opinion anyway.

Lyncher, oh god.

Cop, if you got a guilty, bring it forward. If you got innocent, stay quiet. Though this course of action goes under the assumption we even have a cop.

papi bear, rantai, kanye best mafia team.

who do we lynch first

We lynch foulcoon, obviously.

On a serious note;

akrolsmir wrote:

Kanye's probably not even scum but whatever. He still has the rest of the time to persuade us of his (dubious) worth.

Anyone else rubbed wrong by that? I get the feeling he knew his alignment beforehand.

Rantai wrote:

We lynch foulcoon, obviously.

On a serious note;

akrolsmir wrote:

Kanye's probably not even scum but whatever. He still has the rest of the time to persuade us of his (dubious) worth.

Anyone else rubbed wrong by that? I get the feeling he knew his alignment beforehand.

Reminds me.

akrolsmir wrote:

(the same can also be said for foulcoon, but I'm betting on aux in his case)

Mind telling us why you believe foulcoon is an aux? (I might have missed something from before, but in that case then please point out where.)

Typing on phone is painful so I'll be terse.

@foulcoon: probably rantai

@rantai - in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.

@nyquill - did you not get the whole thing with foulcoon's pm's grammar error thing?

Also I'm thinking that nyquill ought to be making his claim today...thoughts?

akrolsmir wrote:

@nyquill - did you not get the whole thing with foulcoon's pm's grammar error thing?

I was merely wondering why you thought he was aux and not mafia. You said that you were betting that he's aux. Is there something that supports your bet?

Again, if there is something to understand that I haven't yet, point it out so I can stop wondering (I couldn't find it reading the thread).

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

So, The lyncher died..

I have some opinion about who are the Mafias...

foulcoon and akrolsrir:

They've made the scene to malipulate us to vote for somebody important.

kanye west:

Minuets before the lynch scene, he insist to a cop to investigate Nyquill to save his ass.

Lunatic Mara:

Well, not really suspecting him. But I say that he's posting crap so he'll not be noticed to be lynch.

Just my opinion anyway.

I still have my doubts about foulcoon as to whether he's mafia or aux. But not worth lynching him today imo. I don't think akrolsmir is trying to manipulate anyone; he could just be doing his job as town and scumhunting. I advised investigating Nyquill because it was blatantly obvious that he held some kind of aux role at some previous point in the thread. As for Mara, he has been kind of quiet and unhelpful for hunting scum, but that just tells me that he may be an uninterested town, rather than mafia.

What's more shocking to me is that you claim I tried to save my ass by calling investigation to Nyquill, but YOU were the one to jump on my bandwagon.

vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

Thinking about it, I feel that foulcoon's mafia. If he was an aux, then it would make more sense for him to keep quiet than talk about the error and risk attracting the attention of mafia if they do not believe he's really vanilla.

@ Nyquill- let's call it speculation for now. I'm not sure I want to reveal my somewhat shaky reasoning in case it turns out to have been correct and we could have used it more effectively. Just know that it's more of a guess than proof.

vote: Rantai, though I'd probably be down for Papi or Lyby too.

You wish it were that easy.

But the question is, are you basing that suspicion off something in game or weak meta?

You really think I'd tell you? I'm not voting you just for giggles you know.

@Everyone- Trust me on the foulcoon thing. Or don't. It wasn't ever much more than an offhand comment to begin with.

So your whole argument is basically: I think this person is suspicious because of reasons I won't explain/don't have. I might as well vote someone and use the same argument because it'll be just as convincing.

akrolsmir wrote:

@rantai - in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.

Oh yeah, in my experience, lurkers can be anything. Just take last game (Deus Ex) Sync lurked and eventually got replaced and happened to be mafia.

Oh, wait, you were asking about why I was suspicious of you? I thought you were asking about my reasoning on foulcoon...

Let's see. Your unvoting at the end of day 1 to exactly zero effect and not voting Backfire either is probably my main cause of suspicion- I saw that as trying to avoid being on a wagon that you knew to be town. I was also "rubbed wrong" by your speech to the cop - it seemed to me to be anti-town at the very least. I know that if I were the cop with a guilty on nyquill I wouldn't immediately go and post my result; I'd wait to see if nyquill would do something to reveal possible scumbuddies.

If you're not mafia, Rantai, tell me: who are you considering to be scum?

You, for aforementioned reasons.

I'm more or less seeing Nyquill and Jinxy as not mafia for now (no guilty/lyncher 'gut' vote). Everyone else is null to me for the moment =.=

So why are you guys fighting again?

Lady Mara isn't here to soothe our restless souls.

lol'd

Vote: akrolsmir

arguing since day 1..

Oh, yeah..

akrolsmir wrote:

in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.

plus, why would a mod give good role for newbies?

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

plus, why would a mod give good role for newbies?

I've been holding my votes up till now, but this is just too much.

Vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

Also, "Arguing since day 1" is hardly a reason to lynch, how do you find scum without questioning the town?

is it just me or is kanye is just copying what everyone else says?

Yesterday:


Today:


In addition, I'd like to hear the reasoning behind foulcoon being a likely town aux. He's most likely anything OTHER than aux. That is, he's vanilla or mafia. The way he tried to "self confirm" suggests either vanilla townie or mafia trying to pose as one.

also, prod animask, he hasn't posted in 5 days

You didn't consider the possibility that there actually could have been a typo in his role PM.

foulcoon wrote:

ok i just realized that the grammatical error is in the sample role PM

now i get why akrol seemed like a douchebag

He said "the", so he's softclaiming vanilla.

Don't blame me if the town loses XD

Can we just all do "Unvote" instead of "Unvote: Person"?

Also I really want to lynch Papi now, for being bad/scummy.

Mod: Votecount Pls
papi we are going to blame you, because you voted kanye without giving a reason of your own

Papi bear, if you need reasons why you're being scummy atm:
1. Bandwagoning every lynch vote started that is not yourself.
2. Stating that the mod won't give power roles to new players, while you are a new player yourself.
3. Voting someone who already has a vote on him (Without stating a reason for yourself a.k.a. bandwagon) because you have 2 votes on yourself.
4.:

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Don't blame me if the town loses XD

Seriously?

Can I call for a hammer? Please? If he isn't scum at the very least he isn't going to benefit in scum hunting later.

blah why do I always get hit when grammarditing

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Unvote: akrolsmir


Vote: kanye west

Lybydose I understand your reasoning but this guy is such obvious scum that it's not even funny

MafiaVotecount v0.2b wrote:

History (* denotes latest vote):

• *kanye west - vote: papi bear rocks
  *akrolsmir - vote: rantai
  papi bear rocks - vote: akrolsmir
  *nyquill - vote: papi bear rocks
  *lybydose - vote: kanye west
  *papi bear rocks - unvote: akrolsmir vote: kanye west

Current Votes:

• kanye west - vote: papi bear rocks
  akrolsmir - vote: rantai
  nyquill - vote: papi bear rocks
  lybydose - vote: kanye west
  papi bear rocks - unvote: akrolsmir vote: kanye west

So it looks like:
kanye (2) - lyby, papi
papi (2) - kanye, nyquill
rantai (1) - akrolsmir

Nyquill wrote:

Papi bear, if you need reasons why you're being scummy atm:
1. Bandwagoning every lynch vote started that is not yourself.
2. Stating that the mod won't give power roles to new players, while you are a new player yourself.
3. Voting someone who already has a vote on him (Without stating a reason for yourself a.k.a. bandwagon) because you have 2 votes on yourself.
4.:

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Don't blame me if the town loses XD

Seriously?

Can I call for a hammer? Please? If he isn't scum at the very least he isn't going to benefit in scum hunting later.

This sounds about right.

Vote: Papi

Alright, it's abundantly clear that Papi is rather anti-town in his actions thus far. The easy thing to do would be to lynch him, but the question is, is he actually mafia? I don't know if he's played before but he could well just be a bumbling townie rather than scum.

FoS Mara, btw.

That's actually my thought here, I'm attributing his blatantly scum play with being new.

Problem being is that if he is scum then it's going to be extremely confusing as the player count gets smaller.

JInxyjem wrote:

Mod: Votecount Pls
papi we are going to blame you, because you voted kanye without giving a reason of your own

I'm saving my ass on this game! Since I got that second vote, I voted for kanye to make it equal..



I don't expect that this game can get hot! XD


I should be more careful in the next game then.. That is, if they let me.. Lynch me then.

Can I ask a question? What role did you get when you first play Mafia?

Hmm, for the first time ever (maybe 2nd) I'm going to need to ask for a replacement.

Vote: papi bear

for being obviously scum and one of the 3 I was originally suspicious of

One more vote and I'm a dead bear..

Before we lynch you, how about you claim?

Vote: akrolsmir

For good measure.

Roleclaim?

Ie; State what role you were given in your pm from the host.

I'm just a townie though..

Right, a vanilla townie claim.

Confirming, give me a couple hours to read through this game. Currently have a free day so I should be okay

*bzzt*

Malfunct- *crackle* replacement.
animask is now DeathxShinigami.

*bzzt*

Let's see if this works.

delete system32

And yes, you can send commands via radio.

LunaticMara wrote:

And yes, you can send commands via radio.

you mean console.

so DxS, do you have anything to add?

It looks like today's ending with a papi wagon. Kind of to be expected, and we won't miss the bad play I guess.

At any rate, I think I'll try something tonight. On the off chance I get killed tonight, here are my reads as of now:

1. JInxyjem - neutral
2. Lybydose - leaning town
3. foulcoon - town
4. Rantai - mafia
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - leaning town
8. LunaticMara - leaning mafia
9. kanye west - leaning mafia
10. animask DeathxShinigami - neutral
11. Nyquill - town

Huge post incoming. Don't try to get hurt!

Analysis of players

Jinxyjem

Seems very pro town aligned, Day 1 started RQS due to the newbie nature of the group of players this game which sparked good activity within everyone else. Props to him if he flips mafia though since he's played a very solid activity game.

Lybydose

MVP? Probably. Strong posts in general, Good at picking other user's posts in the game and has compiled a good meta in this game. Leaning Town.

foulcoon

Not sure what to think. Activity is rather random as always and I'm basing that on meta. Seems to stall for time and/or making meaningless points in his posts. Though at least play-wise is "okay"' considering the players in this game. Tossup.

Rantai

Experienced. Picks through posts, asks tough questions at basically everyone in the game and feels town to me. Probably Town. (The other runner for MVP imo)

Papi Bear ROCKS

Ugh no. Inconsistent posts. Not sure if cause you have no idea what you're doing cause you're a newbie or just dumb. Generally random and content in posts is just...terrible. If there's nothing to go on. I'm probably going to vote for Papi most likely. Unknown.

LunaticMara

The ultimate Jester. Has fun playing and contributes jokes into the game without giving much content. Doesn't seem too scummy but doesn't seem rather town aligned either. Not much of a read. Tossup

kanye west

Not very consistent either. Seems to not take time to think on what to post upon and generally sides with others in the game without contributing much at all. Could just be busy or scum trying not to slip. Leaning mafia.

animask

Terrible activity. Tried to join thinking he'd actually make more sense in mafia games but ended up dropping out Day 2 due to activity problems? Asks a couple of questions but they are largely ignored in discussions. I'm just the lowly replacement though but I'll try my best to play~

Nyquill

Strong beginner player. Hits people with a couple of good questions here and there while remaining neutral in general. Really enjoyed statements made overall. Leaning town.

akrolsimr

Poor guy, bottom of the sign ups and constantly hit by nearly everyone just like Papi and kanye, Strong activity and contributes very well. Calling akrolsimr as town however.


Based on my comments this is just a personal list rated as Town to Scum


Lybydose
JInxyjem
Rantai
DeathxShinigami
akrolsmir
LunaticMara
Nyquill
foulcoon
kanye west
Papi Bear ROCKS


Oh yeah, and seems a lot of the players atm think Papi is a good lynch target for the day and I agree with that so...

Vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

Oh yeah, gonna make my predictions for player alignment

1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? )
11. Nyquill - Leans town

MafiaVotecount v0.2b wrote:

History from page 7 (* denotes latest vote.):

• *kanye west - vote: papi bear rocks
  *akrolsmir - vote: rantai
  papi bear rocks - vote: akrolsmir
  *nyquill - vote: papi bear rocks
  *lybydose - vote: kanye west
  *papi bear rocks - unvote: akrolsmir vote: kanye west
  *lunaticmara - vote: papi
  *foulcoon - vote: papi bear
  *rantai - vote: akrolsmir
  *deathxshinigami - vote: papi bear rocks

Current Votes:

• kanye west - vote: papi bear rocks
  akrolsmir - vote: rantai
  nyquill - vote: papi bear rocks
  lybydose - vote: kanye west
  papi bear rocks - unvote: akrolsmir vote: kanye west
  lunaticmara - vote: papi
  foulcoon - vote: papi bear
  rantai - vote: akrolsmir
  deathxshinigami - vote: papi bear rocks

Edit to my reads: Jinxyjem- mafia

@DxS - I have no clue what you're talking about for Jinxy. The merits of his questions are questionable at best- to me it looks like it stifled half a day of discussion and ultimately it led to nothing. The rest of his "solid activity game" consists of throwing out some contradictory, half-hearted observations. And never voting even once.

akrolsmir wrote:

@DxS - I have no clue what you're talking about for Jinxy. The merits of his questions are questionable at best- to me it looks like it stifled half a day of discussion and ultimately it led to nothing. The rest of his "solid activity game" consists of throwing out some contradictory, half-hearted observations. And never voting even once.

I still disagree even though I took another read through of his posts. He started discussion which is a plus in the beginning of a mafia game. He led many players to make numerous slip ups which can help prove they are scum. Makes me wonder now...

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Oh yeah, gonna make my predictions for player alignment

1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? )
11. Nyquill - Leans town

You missed akro.

Also not voting is a null tell, akro. Trying to use the reasoning that not joining the bandwagon must be a method of scum trying to avoid lynching a town holds as much strength as scum joining a bandwagon for an easy lynch. Not sure where you're trying to go with that, cop out maybe?

1. JInxyjem - Strong town
2. Lybydose - Leans town
3. foulcoon - Tossup/Neutral
4. Rantai - Leans town/Neutral
7. Papi Bear ROCKS - Solid Mafia or bad town.
8. LunaticMara - Neutral
9. kanye west - Leans Mafia
10. DeathxShinigami - neutral (Remember my meta? )
11. Nyquill - Leans town
12. akrolsimr - Leans Town/Neutral

I disagree, Rantai. The vote is the most powerful tool a town player has, indicating commitment and a desire to actually get someone lynched. Not using it indicates you don't believe enough in what you're saying, you're not willing to go on the record, you're avoiding blame for being wrong. Or you're to lazy to think about who actually could be mafia.

Perhaps if Jinxy had been making decent contributions throughout I'd be more forgiving of his lack of a voting history, but that isn't exactly the case here.

Anyways, scum: Rantai, Jinxy, and ... mara? kanye?

Nyquill wrote:

you mean console.

It doesn't sound like a console.

posting from work.

just read through all the recent pages and wanted to say a few things.

DxS commenting on my "activity" in any mafia game is laughable at best. you are like the nr1 lurker / dropout of every mafia game ever.

almost leads me to believe that you are mafia because maybe having a "fun" role would give you more incentive to actually take a game seriously.

also I'm getting a seriously scummy vibe from Rantai, but I already kind of mentioned that earlier. He is playing more aggressively than I remember him playing as a mafia, so who knows... I could be wrong here.