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Papi Bear
1 more to go! :D
akrolsmir
Might as well throw me in.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Sent all roles!
Confirm in thread.

I also placed the sample Vanilla Town PM in the opening post.
Mara
confirm
Papi Bear
Confirmed
Kanye West
Confirm
akrolsmir
confirm.
Rantai
Confirm.
Lybydose
confirm
Jinxy
con the firms
Topic Starter
NoHitter
*bzzt*

Authorities are still questionin...
...ack of information in the crisi...
Compu... ystem is malfunc...
No hope...


*bzzt*

In a world with *crackle* information, can a group of twelve find who amongst them is *bzzt*
Mainframe system on back-up pow-*bzzt* Hehehehehehehehehe

We are sending a *bzzt*-S. We are tr-*crackle* inside the main- *bzzt*
People are try-*bzzt* to kill us. He-*bzzt*

*bzzt*

Good morning visitors! Do not worry about the outside.
The security facilities are in 100% operation and no one may go in or out.
Have a nice day! If you have any questions please do not hesitate to type it into the Q/A section.

*bzzt*

"Damn it! The system won't let us outside."
"What do you mean!? Someone has already been killed in here. We're not going to stay in this--"

"Shut up! Like there's anything we can do."
"Tch- Well anyway, the computer identified the guy as Igor Skye by his tag - a military man, sniper."

"But who the hell killed him..."

Igor Skye - Town Sniper - Killed Night 0

*bzzt*

INFORMATION IS NOTHING!
WITH 12 ALIVE, IT TAKES 7 TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.
Jinxy
Information is nothing?

I'LL PROVE YOU WRONG

NoHitter wrote:

RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
HEY NEWBIES ANSWER THIS
Papi Bear
Lol! :D
Jinxy
That means papi bear and Nyquill btw, but the rest of you should too.

1) No clear preference, but I like having information. Mason, mafia, cop, etc. Which is pretty ironic that I'm playing in this information-less game, but hey
2) ^
3) If we really can't find replacements, which seems to be the case in the forum due to inactivity...
4) Yeah. Helps out a lot in Day 1, and even more maybe if whoever is using meta has like a large record of most players.
5) Once a day
Papi Bear
So, can I trust you then? :P
Jinxy
This really isn't about trusting me. Answering the RQS allows everyone to see how someone new thinks about the game, and generates discussion which is beneficial to town. You might want to read the mafia wiki. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Main_Page
Mara

NoHitter wrote:

RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment?
2) What role would you want to get in a game?
3) Would you lynch lurkers?
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")
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Mara
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Rantai

JInxyjem wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment? Mafia/Independent
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Serial Killer
3) Would you lynch lurkers? If there is nothing else to work with.
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? In smaller games, as far as it an carry me. Larger games, not really.
5) How often do you plan on posting? Once a day at least
HEY NEWBIES ANSWER THIS
Ok.
Nyquill

NoHitter wrote:

RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment? Mafia
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Roleblocker
3) Would you lynch lurkers? I wouldn't be able to tell who is lurking and who is just busy.
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? I wouldn't know how.
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") 12-hour periods probably.
[/quote]
By 12 hour periods I mean I can only post that frequently ;/
Backfire
1 - Town
2 - Vigilante
3 - No.
4 - Of course~
5 - Whenever I can, therefore, often.
Papi Bear
1. Town
2. Doctor...
3. No reason to lynch them.
4. I think that's cheating :P
5. Anytime that I will say something.
Papi Bear
You can determine who's lurking in osu! forums (Users browsing this forum)
Kanye West

NoHitter wrote:

RQS:
1) What is your preferred alignment? Town or SK, I don't want to be responsible for screwing fellow mafia
2) What role would you want to get in a game? Cop or rolecop
3) Would you lynch lurkers? Yeah, too easy for mafia to hide by lurking
4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? No, idk any meta.
5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say") Once a day at least
Edit: added some reasoning behind my answers.
Lybydose
Hey guys, RQS is just hollow filler if you give a simple one word answer to each question. You should at least explain your reasoning behind your choices.

1) What is your preferred alignment?

Serial Killer/other independant, because they're probably the roles with the least external pressure. Don't have to worry about screwing and mislynching like a townie, don't have to worry about screwing over your team as mafia. Only have to play for myself.

2) What role would you want to get in a game?

Anything but Vigilante. Too much second guessing. I generally prefer roles that can gain information, like watcher, tracker, cop, etc

3) Would you lynch lurkers?

Yes. Too easy for the mafia to hide amongst non-posters. Non-posting townies aren't too incredibly useful either way. It also keeps the game moving. A game where all the most active posters are killed off in the first couple days dies off fast. Usually the mafia win in such a situation since no one is around to do anything.

4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting?

Depends on the player really. For someone like animask, anything goes and meta is pretty worthless.

5) How often do you plan on posting? (Please set a quantifiable date... not just "when I have something to say")

At least once a day hopefully.
foulcoon
there was a grammatical error in my role PM
akrolsmir
Stop pretending to be a vanilla townie.
Sleep Powder
1) What is your preferred alignment? Town/Independent

2) What role would you want to get in a game? Jester/Motivator

3) Would you lynch lurkers? Depends on how they're lurking. If people ask questions or if they give information at odd times and stay quiet afterwards... maybe.

4) Would you use meta as a tool for scumhunting? Yes, especially during Day 1.

5) How often do you plan on posting? Once a day or every other day.
Mara
My answers are the best.
foulcoon

akrolsmir wrote:

Stop pretending to be a vanilla townie.
i'm not pretending to be anything...
pieguyn
1. town
2. vanilla o.o
3. Yes, if all the active players aren't suspicious
4. yes
5. Once every day or every few days >_<
akrolsmir
vote: foulcoon
Papi Bear
Vote: akrolsmir


By being offensive to foulcoon.

It's just a damn plain post to me...
akrolsmir
At the risk of being "offensive" to you instead: then clearly you're not looking hard enough.
foulcoon
ok i just realized that the grammatical error is in the sample role PM

now i get why akrol seemed like a douchebag
Mara

foulcoon wrote:

ok i just realized that the grammatical error is in the sample role PM
But your PM doesn't have the grammatical error anymore?
Jinxy
I don't see the error, tbh.

NoHitter wrote:

Having no knowledge of anything?
It is the worse situation to be in.
Lies and deception all around.
I assume the error is "worse", but I think it works if it means "having lies around is worse than knowing nothing"
Rantai
I don't think so, it has nothing to compare against.
Sleep Powder
I'm expecting some false information from the aux roles (if there are any). I don't really get the "in the dark" theme of this, but we'll discover it as we go along.

I wonder if the mafia know each other?
Nyquill
Can I assume that at least our role PMs are accurate?
pieguyn
Oh god, let's try not to break the game based off role PMs and instead try to do it right >.>

vote: LunaticMara
akrolsmir
Get the ISOs here: p/1440893. (NoHitter, want to put it in the OP?)

RQS seems not to have generated anything whatsoever, and the day's already half done. pieguy, is that vote random?
Rantai
Rather sure he was voting because of Mara's fjshffjfh post.

Nyquill wrote:

Can I assume that at least our role PMs are accurate?
Well at least we figured out one aux/mafia today.
Jinxy
foulcoon might have said the grammatical error thing without knowing Hitter edited in the sample PM, so I can't say I 100% agree that he was trying to softclaim vanilla town. I'm not confirming him, just saying your vote seems rushed, akro.
akrolsmir
Cool. unvote, vote Nyquill. If he's not vanilla town he's more likely to be mafia than anyone else so far.

(the same can also be said for foulcoon, but I'm betting on aux in his case)

Edit in response to JIinxy: It was.
Nyquill
For the sake of argument, I'll just go with that.

But for the record, I was saying that because the PM could say that I am something that I'm not (Including all roles, mafia/aux/vanilla).
pieguyn
That vote was mostly random >_<

vote: JInxyjem, basically gut feeling :?
Mara
Gut feeling is just the greatest thing ever.
Rantai

Nyquill wrote:

For the sake of argument, I'll just go with that.

But for the record, I was saying that because the PM could say that I am something that I'm not (Including all roles, mafia/aux/vanilla).
Bit of a stretch to compare a whole pm to a single grammatical error.
Nyquill
Noted, I will make myself clear next time.

Nothing I can do about that now though.
akrolsmir
I always forget how boring day 1 is. Can we just lynch a random lurker and be done with it?
Rantai
Want to roll a die and see who gets the axe?

In seriousness I see nothing to work on minus Nyquill being a possible non-vanilla. I'm not willing to lynch a possible aux just yet, if we have a cop I'd rather have them scan him.
akrolsmir
I was thinking of kanye/backfire for a lynch.

So how about we get cop, watcher, tracker, doctor, and busdriver all on Nyquill?
Papi Bear
Unvote: akrolsrim
Lybydose
vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

seriously?

@akrolsmir: I agree with auxes on Nyquill, but I'd say the bus driver should hold off. Would cause unnecessary confusion if a cop, watcher, or tracker were redirected.
Papi Bear
Yeah, they didn't post after answering the RQS and all this grammatical error shit.
Jinxy

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Yeah, they didn't post after answering the RQS and all this grammatical error shit.
Who the hell are you referring to
Why did you vote akrolsmir
akrolsmir
lol. Guys, I think he's trying to say that he's unvoting me. And referring to kanye/backfire, whom I did specifically pick for inactivity...
Papi Bear
I voted for akro for being offensive to foulcool (that I just unvote it just then). Well, after all this conversation, Backfire and kayne didn't even responed..
Backfire
Im not even paying attention fyi.
Jinxy
then why did you join
Backfire
I didn't know it would be this boring :3
Rantai
Lols I nearly read that as a vote too. I'm happy with everything on Nyquill, but in addition to busdriver, if we have a motivator, don't motivate him. Last thing we need is a motivated anti-town.

Well seeing as we have nothing to work on;

Vote: Kayne

He's said the least this whole game.
Papi Bear

Backfire wrote:

I didn't know it would be this boring :3

It's just day 1 anyway..

Vote: kayne west
Mara
I don't even think Backfire would need to answer those.
akrolsmir
Kanye's probably not even scum but whatever. He still has the rest of the time to persuade us of his (dubious) worth.
Kanye West
Ahhhhhhh I have like 90000 midterms today

will post in a few hours, k bye
Kanye West
Just went through the whole thread. Few things I noticed: we can pretty much make nothing out of foulcoon's "soft claim", and if we have a cop, it would probably be advisable for you to investigate Nyquil tonight.

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

Vote: kayne west
If you're going to vote for me, at least spell my name right hfgsdbngiubfiadslhfds.

I'm going to vote: Backfire

because he obviously gives zero fucks about anything.
Papi Bear
Unvote: kanye west[b/]

i'm not the only on to made a mistake. XD

[b]Vote: Backfire
Rantai
I cannot unsee "Kayne". You will forever be known as "Kayne" to me.

Just a heads up.

Unvote: Kayne
Kanye West

Rantai wrote:

Unvote: Kayne
I hate you guys. So much.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
*bzzt*

"Are you sure it's safe to scan the tag when the person is still alive?"
"What makes you say that?"

"The system has a mechanism to protect living people from being analyzed."
"Nothing will happen if we don't try?"


*bzzt*

You have selected Backfire.
Please scan. *crackle* Pulse detected!
Will nullify tag bearer in three... two... one...

Displaying the results... Backfire is...
Backfire - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1

*bzzt*

"The hell! The system kills the person whose tag we scan?"
"Modifications?? I don't recall the system doing that."

"No way am I going to risk getting electrocuted!"
"We have no other option then..."


*bzzt*

NIGHTMARES WILL START!
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
*bzzt*

"Pant... pant... pant... Get away from me!"
"Pant... pant... pant... Help! Anyone!"
"It's too late, isn't it?"


*bang*

You have selected pieguy1372.
Please scan. *crackle* Pulse absent!
Scanning tag... *bzzt*

Displaying the results... pieguy1372 was an assassin sent to kill *crackle*
pieguy1372 - Lyncher - Killed Night 1

*bzzt*

"An assassin out to kill someone was inside this place?"
"He must have been the one who killed Igor! We're safe now, aren't we?"
"Tch. I doubt it... Who the hell killed him then?"


*bzzt*

ACCURACY IS A MYSTERY!
WITH 10 ALIVE, IT TAKES 6 TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.
Papi Bear
So, The lyncher died..

I have some opinion about who are the Mafias...

foulcoon and akrolsrir:

They've made the scene to malipulate us to vote for somebody important.

kanye west:

Minuets before the lynch scene, he insist to a cop to investigate Nyquill to save his ass.

Lunatic Mara:

Well, not really suspecting him. But I say that he's posting crap so he'll not be noticed to be lynch.

Just my opinion anyway. :D
Rantai
Lyncher, oh god.

Cop, if you got a guilty, bring it forward. If you got innocent, stay quiet. Though this course of action goes under the assumption we even have a cop.
foulcoon
papi bear, rantai, kanye best mafia team.

who do we lynch first
Rantai
We lynch foulcoon, obviously.

On a serious note;

akrolsmir wrote:

Kanye's probably not even scum but whatever. He still has the rest of the time to persuade us of his (dubious) worth.
Anyone else rubbed wrong by that? I get the feeling he knew his alignment beforehand.
Nyquill

Rantai wrote:

We lynch foulcoon, obviously.

On a serious note;

akrolsmir wrote:

Kanye's probably not even scum but whatever. He still has the rest of the time to persuade us of his (dubious) worth.
Anyone else rubbed wrong by that? I get the feeling he knew his alignment beforehand.
Reminds me.

akrolsmir wrote:

(the same can also be said for foulcoon, but I'm betting on aux in his case)
Mind telling us why you believe foulcoon is an aux? (I might have missed something from before, but in that case then please point out where.)
akrolsmir
Typing on phone is painful so I'll be terse.

@foulcoon: probably rantai

@rantai - in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.

@nyquill - did you not get the whole thing with foulcoon's pm's grammar error thing?

Also I'm thinking that nyquill ought to be making his claim today...thoughts?
Nyquill

akrolsmir wrote:

@nyquill - did you not get the whole thing with foulcoon's pm's grammar error thing?
I was merely wondering why you thought he was aux and not mafia. You said that you were betting that he's aux. Is there something that supports your bet?

Again, if there is something to understand that I haven't yet, point it out so I can stop wondering (I couldn't find it reading the thread).
Kanye West

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

So, The lyncher died..

I have some opinion about who are the Mafias...

foulcoon and akrolsrir:

They've made the scene to malipulate us to vote for somebody important.

kanye west:

Minuets before the lynch scene, he insist to a cop to investigate Nyquill to save his ass.

Lunatic Mara:

Well, not really suspecting him. But I say that he's posting crap so he'll not be noticed to be lynch.

Just my opinion anyway. :D
I still have my doubts about foulcoon as to whether he's mafia or aux. But not worth lynching him today imo. I don't think akrolsmir is trying to manipulate anyone; he could just be doing his job as town and scumhunting. I advised investigating Nyquill because it was blatantly obvious that he held some kind of aux role at some previous point in the thread. As for Mara, he has been kind of quiet and unhelpful for hunting scum, but that just tells me that he may be an uninterested town, rather than mafia.

What's more shocking to me is that you claim I tried to save my ass by calling investigation to Nyquill, but YOU were the one to jump on my bandwagon.

vote: Papi Bear ROCKS
Jinxy
Thinking about it, I feel that foulcoon's mafia. If he was an aux, then it would make more sense for him to keep quiet than talk about the error and risk attracting the attention of mafia if they do not believe he's really vanilla.
akrolsmir
@ Nyquill- let's call it speculation for now. I'm not sure I want to reveal my somewhat shaky reasoning in case it turns out to have been correct and we could have used it more effectively. Just know that it's more of a guess than proof.

vote: Rantai, though I'd probably be down for Papi or Lyby too.
Rantai
You wish it were that easy.

But the question is, are you basing that suspicion off something in game or weak meta?
akrolsmir
You really think I'd tell you? I'm not voting you just for giggles you know.

@Everyone- Trust me on the foulcoon thing. Or don't. It wasn't ever much more than an offhand comment to begin with.
Rantai
So your whole argument is basically: I think this person is suspicious because of reasons I won't explain/don't have. I might as well vote someone and use the same argument because it'll be just as convincing.
Rantai

akrolsmir wrote:

@rantai - in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.
Oh yeah, in my experience, lurkers can be anything. Just take last game (Deus Ex) Sync lurked and eventually got replaced and happened to be mafia.
akrolsmir
Oh, wait, you were asking about why I was suspicious of you? I thought you were asking about my reasoning on foulcoon...

Let's see. Your unvoting at the end of day 1 to exactly zero effect and not voting Backfire either is probably my main cause of suspicion- I saw that as trying to avoid being on a wagon that you knew to be town. I was also "rubbed wrong" by your speech to the cop - it seemed to me to be anti-town at the very least. I know that if I were the cop with a guilty on nyquill I wouldn't immediately go and post my result; I'd wait to see if nyquill would do something to reveal possible scumbuddies.

If you're not mafia, Rantai, tell me: who are you considering to be scum?
Rantai
You, for aforementioned reasons.

I'm more or less seeing Nyquill and Jinxy as not mafia for now (no guilty/lyncher 'gut' vote). Everyone else is null to me for the moment =.=
Mara
So why are you guys fighting again?
Rantai
Lady Mara isn't here to soothe our restless souls.
Papi Bear
lol'd

Vote: akrolsmir

arguing since day 1..
Papi Bear
Oh, yeah..

akrolsmir wrote:

in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.
:)

plus, why would a mod give good role for newbies?
Nyquill

Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:

plus, why would a mod give good role for newbies?
I've been holding my votes up till now, but this is just too much.

Vote: Papi Bear ROCKS

Also, "Arguing since day 1" is hardly a reason to lynch, how do you find scum without questioning the town?
Lybydose
is it just me or is kanye is just copying what everyone else says?

Yesterday:

SPOILER

Rantai wrote:

In seriousness I see nothing to work on minus Nyquill being a possible non-vanilla. I'm not willing to lynch a possible aux just yet, if we have a cop I'd rather have them scan him.

kanye west wrote:

{...} and if we have a cop, it would probably be advisable for you to investigate Nyquil tonight.

Today:

SPOILER

akrolsmir wrote:

@rantai - in my experience day 1 lurkers tend to be bored townies not mafia (see backfire); mafia are smarter/more interested than that.

kanye west wrote:

As for Mara, he has been kind of quiet and unhelpful for hunting scum, but that just tells me that he may be an uninterested town, rather than mafia.
Although Rantai/akrolsmir were actually talking about kanye, he simply echoes the exact same logic to apply to Mara

In addition, I'd like to hear the reasoning behind foulcoon being a likely town aux. He's most likely anything OTHER than aux. That is, he's vanilla or mafia. The way he tried to "self confirm" suggests either vanilla townie or mafia trying to pose as one.

also, prod animask, he hasn't posted in 5 days
Kanye West
You didn't consider the possibility that there actually could have been a typo in his role PM.
Jinxy

foulcoon wrote:

ok i just realized that the grammatical error is in the sample role PM

now i get why akrol seemed like a douchebag
He said "the", so he's softclaiming vanilla.
Lybydose
vote: kanye west
Papi Bear
Unvote: akrolsmir


Vote: kanye west
Papi Bear
Don't blame me if the town loses XD
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